so i resubbed... again...

[Drifting DarkAngel]

Well, I resubbed again. I finally got bored and burned out to the point of self mutilation if i didnt quit some months ago, so I decided to unsub and test the waters for something else. CS:S was fun for awhile but all the rampant hackers disinterested me quickly. DDO was fun for a few days, till you realized the combat system is semi retarded in groups and solo play (while possible) is slow beyond belief. Everquest 2 has changed alot to be sure, but the graphics and spell animations still leave me bored, the age old complaint of the armor looking like complete trash hasn't really been addressed in any major way (yet). So I'm back. as of now I have:

level 70 UD Rogue - Gurubashi (PVP)
level 70 Orc Warrior - Gurubashi (PVP)
level 70 Night elf Hunter - Malygos (PVE)
level 70 Night elf Druid - Malygos (PVE)
level 70 UD Mage - Malygos (PVE)

and a ridiculous slew of alts. Now my question is this, what to do now? what class holds the most promise, should i work on? my warrior is an arms warrior, he has crafted himself a lionheart blade. The mage and hunter are somewhat fun but I can't stand malygos. Rogues just feel underpowered now unless horrendously geared. So should I just reroll, if so what? I also have a 62 enhancement shaman... 38 shadow priest.. 28 Warlock somewhere, and a 34 paladin. Think that pretty much covers it. Any input? What classes do you like? and most importantly. Why? if you had these chars, what would you want to work on? In the case of the malygos characters, those of you on kickass PVE servers tell me the server! i really wanna xfer off malygos. The bg queue's make baby jesus weep.

[Ironwood]

Seek Help.

[Drifting DarkAngel]

Seek Help.

why? because i have several 70's? I'll cut this line of flaming off here. I'm happily married employed and have a baby girl I'm very proud of, I enjoy my life to the fullest. I've managed that many 70s from mostly casual play since September of 2005.

[Megrim]

Seek Help.

[Drifting DarkAngel]

Seek Help.

Seek Help.

why? because i have several 70's? I'll cut this line of flaming off here. I'm happily married employed and have a baby girl I'm very proud of, I enjoy my life to the fullest. I've managed that many 70s from mostly casual play since September of 2005.

[Ironwood]

You misunderstand.  I wouldn't dare take a lowbrow attitude like that.

However, you have just resubbed into a game where your first question is 'So What Now?'  You seem to have already 'done it all' to the point you got bored previously.  You are fitting into the textbook insanity definition of 'Repeating the Same Actions Expecting Different Results.'

You should either have waited till the next expansion or.....Seek Help.

For myself, I use WoW as an excuse to chum around with my wife and RL friends.  After a certain point it's PvP or Raiding or Reroll.

Up to you.

Bear in mind that you can take that 15 a month and save up for a good Psychiatrist.  She might even be female.  You might even see boobs.  Trust me, I'm not patronising you here.  I too am happily married with a beautiful daughter, but I'd pay a psychiatrist with good boobs.  SERIOUSLY.

[Drifting DarkAngel]

pretty much gonna ignore the pointless psychiatry rambling, but as to your point of done it all, most of my characters are somewhat poorly geared, most are in blues and a few epics tops, several don't have flying mounts. none have epic flying mounts. I still haven't done any raid content past kara and seen gruul's lair only once, only ever attained 1 piece of arena gear, and not a single faction reward, and never ran a heroic.. so theres alot i haven't done. Just not sure what character to focus on now.

the wow class forums are a waste of time pretty much everyone there hates their class but never stops playing it. something very catholic about that.

[Ironwood]

Then I repeat :

PvP
Raiding
Rerolling

And, it would seem, pointless grinding for Gear or Mounts.

It's up to you.

Personally, you seem to have every character under the sun, so I'd choose one that you enjoy playing.  Alternatively, since enjoyment, I suspect, is not going to come solo, choose the one that the Raid Group/PvP team you join are SHORT OF.

Go for it.

I'm fairly sure you'll be quitting again in 3 months.

[Drifting DarkAngel]

I do really enjoy my mage, I just hate the server.  I was completely new when I made him so i didn't think out server choice or anything like that, but why is grinding for gear or mounts pointless? i asked several direct questions in my post that you may not have noticed, i.e., if you had this character list what would you play and why, what are your favorite classes, whats your favorite server, that sort of thing. I'd like to see someone elses perspective, I've lost mine.

[Ironwood]

Server moves are only £15.  Could be worth it.

Grinding for gear of and for itself is pointless unless it has an aim.  Which is usually Raiding and meeting initial raiding requirements.  Mounts, well, once you've got a flying one and a fast one, what the hell are you going to do with them ?  I find the nether dragons and whatnot that they put in to be entirely about 'showing off' and I'm too old for that shit.  Unless you PvP you don't need the uber fast flying one at all.

I'm currently rerolling a wee Blood Elf mage with my regular 5 man group of friends/wife.  I'm even speccing him arcane and whatnot to make him 'fit' with the blood elf stuff - it's just for fun.  I play my Prot Warrior for instances/raids/tanking for people and I have 3 other lvl 64 chars that I quite literally cannot be bothered to level any further.

Hell, I play a Cat called Hobbes that just so happens to have a pet Orc Hunter.  ;)

I've said my bit.

[Oban]

Why "grind" for gear when the expansion, coming out in about four months, will completely negate anything you worked for?

If you do not enjoy the game, do not subscribe.  I think this is why the earlier comments started with "seek help" since it is a basic sign of addiction to continue to do things that are no longer fun...

[ShenMolo]

Go through the guild recruitment forum and look for a guild that is doing what you want (raiding/pvping/roleplaying/whatever). Transfer to the new server with whatever toon they need/you want to play. Spend a lot of time researching the guilds that are looking for members. If you do your homework and find a good one this can be a great change of scenery and a chance to meet some new friends, and pop into a guild with immediate progression opportunities for you to see endgame/heroic instances.

Ironwood is pretty much right though, there are only a few things to do in WoW:

PvP
Raiding
Re-rolling
Roleplaying 

If you can find a fun group to play with you might be able to wring a few more months of enjoyment out of it.

[ShenMolo]

Why "grind" for gear when the expansion, coming out in about four months, will completely negate anything you worked for?

Where did you hear about an expansion in 4 months?

[Dren]

He's probably going on the promise of "1 per year."

[Mazakiel]

I seriously doubt we'll see the new expansion, whatever it ends up being, in 4 months time.  While Dec/Jan is technically a year since BC, I doubt it'll be ready in time.  This is Blizzard we're talking about.  I'd expect it around March at the earliest, though I could be wrong I suppose.  I honestly expect it mid to late year next year.  Either way, I'm in no rush to see it, I'm still having fun with what's in BC, and I still have a good amount of stuff to see. 

[Oban]

Blizzcon -> special-beta -> open-beta -> New Years Eve -> release some time early next year...

So, about four months. 

[MrHat]

Blizzcon -> special-beta -> open-beta -> New Years Eve -> release some time early next year...

So, about four months. 

You know what? I think you might be right.  They'll just do what they've done and release the expansion with no real end game raiding in place till 1+ month afterwards.

As to DDA's problem, I would stay unsubscribed.  Otherwise, roll up a pet character? I'd suggest a warlock since fear has some fun mechanics, but really, the hunter will be the furthest away from what you have currently.  Also, do it on a server that is new to you, from scratch.  There's something more fun about an alt when you resubscribe that has no pimp daddy.

I would suggest a new race, but I was never able to play any alts that weren't orc past 68.

[Merusk]

To beat the dead horse, decide what you want to do first.

Me, I like raiding, but only once a week or so, and i like being able to 'take a week off' so I'm not in a hardcore guild.  I also like PvP, so I'm on an arena team and have a low-level twink (because L70 BGs are ass).  I ALSO like rerolling to check out new classes, so I've got a bunch of alts scattered around.

However, I also enjoy the game.  I'm not 'bored' with it or the mechanics.  Sometimes the grind gets to me on an alt, so I switch to a different alt, or simply don't play that day.  There's other games to mess with, after all.

None of us can tell you what YOU should do.  Only you know what you really want out of the game.  If you're playing only because you're bored and need something to fill the hours of the day, then yes, seek help.

[Drifting DarkAngel]

some great suggestions here, thanks for the help (the kind i was looking for) 

i think the main reason i hate malygos is the alliance to horde ratio is staggeringly lopsided. one of the worst servers for that i think. i think its gotta be something like 5 or 6 to 1. world pvp is completely and utterly dead, no horde will flag up ever, because they immediately get zerged. and bg times (at least alliance side) are horrendous, although i realize bg's are linked the servers population woes seem to effect the queue's. close to 2 hours for AV sometimes, where on gurubashi just about every bg 24/7 is <1 min. i like the guild forum idea. im gonna try that :D games are more fun with a community for sure.

[Sogrinaugh]

I'd first have to ask how important world pvp is too you.  If this ranks high on your list of things that are important to you, i would only consider the pvp server characters.  If not, i would work on the druid.

In My Humble Opinion, the ONLY aspect of the game for which feral druids are not superb is arena.  5-man content, including heroics, you are the single most desirable archtype in the game, a tank.  For raiding, you can play a tank as well, or if thats not your cup of tea, you can be a sub-rogue that boosts a melee-groups dps.  For farming as well, feral druids rock, stealth runs of instances to snatch herbs/mine nodes, good farming speed in general with catform.

PvP wise druids are actually a pretty good class 1v1, their just not represented at the top of the arena spectrum.  But if you know you are better then most of the apes that play this game you will be able to attain 2100+ rank, at least in 2v2.  BG's again druids are good and have a variety of uses, especially if you like AV.

DISCLAIMER:  I do play a holy priest, and yes it is in my best interest to encourage as many people to play a viable tank as possible since their is always a shortage.  HOWEVER, feral druids represent a *fun* viable tank, in that you can do other things in the game besides just raid or 5-mans.  YOu can farm and pvp as well, something protection warriors and paladins lack.

[Morfiend]

Blizzcon -> special-beta -> open-beta -> New Years Eve -> release some time early next year...

So, about four months. 

There is no fucking way they are getting the WotLK out in 4 months. No way. They still have to release Zul'Aman the new 10 man instance, and also release the "as yet unnamed" 25 man raid that was hinted to be the Sunwell. The expansion is not coming out the month after the new dungeon. I think we are looking at around a year to 16 months for the expansion release. Im holding to my November 08 theory.

[Paelos]

Blizzcon -> special-beta -> open-beta -> New Years Eve -> release some time early next year...

So, about four months. 

There is no fucking way they are getting the WotLK out in 4 months. No way. They still have to release Zul'Aman the new 10 man instance, and also release the "as yet unnamed" 25 man raid that was hinted to be the Sunwell. The expansion is not coming out the month after the new dungeon. I think we are looking at around a year to 16 months for the expansion release. Im holding to my November 08 theory.

I agree with the 4 months being wrong. However, November 08? TBC was "announced" and semi-playable at Blizzcon in Oct 05, went to closed beta a year later, and then finally went on the shelves in January. If they can't do better than that the second time around I'll be very unimpressed. I'm putting my money on a year from now at the very latest, July 08, and January 08 at the extreme earliest. If I had to nail down one month, I'd go for March.

[Chimpy]

If I had to nail down one month, I'd go for March.

I would say that they will announce a launch date either right before or right after the release of Warhammer. This may hurt them a bit with forcing subscribers to make a choice, but it will help them for people who want something new in the orcs/elfs milieu that would rather not be bothered with learning a new game if they don't have to.

[Jayce]

If they can't do better than that the second time around I'll be very unimpressed.

Yeah, but "better" doesn't necessarily mean faster.  I think that considering the stability and polish of BC, if they can repeat that feat in the same amount of time, I'd be impressed all over again.

At the risk of being trite, you can have it fast, right, or cheap;  pick two.  Hint: corporate overlords always reserve cheap.

[Oban]

I would say that they will announce a launch date either right before or right after the release of Warhammer. This may hurt them a bit with forcing subscribers to make a choice, but it will help them for people who want something new in the orcs/elfs milieu that would rather not be bothered with learning a new game if they don't have to.

I think it is cute that you think Blizzard gives a flying fuck about the launch of Warhammer.

[Ironwood]

 :-D

[Morfiend]

I would say that they will announce a launch date either right before or right after the release of Warhammer. This may hurt them a bit with forcing subscribers to make a choice, but it will help them for people who want something new in the orcs/elfs milieu that would rather not be bothered with learning a new game if they don't have to.

I think it is cute that you think Blizzard gives a flying fuck about the launch of Warhammer.

Of course they do. No matter how big they are, people leaving to play WAR are still people who wont be paying. The designers may not care, but the money people do. You dont continue making a shitton of money by completely ignoring competition. They probably dont consider it a threat, but I guarantee there are people meeting saying "how can we lose as few people as possible to this thing".

P.S. shitton passed spell check  :-D

[Calantus]

I would say that they will announce a launch date either right before or right after the release of Warhammer. This may hurt them a bit with forcing subscribers to make a choice, but it will help them for people who want something new in the orcs/elfs milieu that would rather not be bothered with learning a new game if they don't have to.

I think it is cute that you think Blizzard gives a flying fuck about the launch of Warhammer.

Why wouldn't they? I think everyone expects at least 200-500k people to play WAR. That's not going to gut WoW, but if you can reduce that number by a decent % it's surely worth it.

EDIT: I should have read Morphiend's reply before posting...

[raydeen]

My personal pref: Work on your warlock. I dabble with the other classes here and there but for my money, the warlock owns all. PvE at any rate. And you basically get an almost free mount at 40 whilst others have to shell out mega bucks for the same thing. It's just dark evil fun no matter what faction you're on. And it's nice bailing out the party when things go wrong. Many a time I just circle the void around and grab all the aggro while the rest of the party regains it's balance, doing health funnel and siphon life. I wish the pets in EQ would hold aggro like they do in WoW. I'd go back to my beastmaster if that was the case.

As for servers, Durotan has always been good to me.