Survivor Man/ Man vs. Wild

[dusematic]

LOL.  Nice. 

[Slayerik]

Anyone see the last Survivorman in the Kalahari

WTF did he prove? That he was a dead man?

[Roac]

Anyone see the last Survivorman in the Kalahari

WTF did he prove? That he was a dead man?

That the Kalahari is a death trap.  Sort of like the thing with Polar Bears, if you don't have x, y, and z before you begin, Jesus couldn't survive.  He made it to day 6 though.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

I though he did pretty good given the situation. I think that if he had not run into that Inuit guy he would have been in some shit. But that just proves that he really was in a survival situation, and survived 6 days in a freaking deathtrap and made it out. A little luck and a shit load of skill.

[UD_Delt]

No need to fear crocodiles in Florida.  The alligators are pretty rough, though.  I hear that they cannot zig-zag, so if my wife and I are ever pursued by one then we will find out.  She is the zig-zagger and I am the tree-climber.  I am also the stay-out-of-the fucking-waterer.

Dude do you hate Mythbusters too?

Crocodile Zig-Zag

Myth: If you are getting chased by a crocodile, you can escape by running in a zig-zag pattern as crocs cannot turn corners.

The build team constructed an elaborate zig-zag rig to try and test this myth. The rig featured a remote-control trolley on a steel track that could zig-zag and dangling dummy in front of a crocodile. They used a foam Buster instead of the real Buster in order to lighten the load. They also gave the foam buster legs made out of fishnet stockingsfilled with quail (a delicacy for crocodiles).
Human running speed

The build team need to calibrate their rig to actual human running. They setup a grid on the floor and filmed themselves running across it. The high-speed footage showed them zig-zagging at 7.6ft/s (5mph).
Real croc test

They took their rig all the way to St. Augustine Alligator Farm, the only place to have all 23 species of crocodile on hand. Tory helped wrangle and tape the mouth shut of a Cuban crocodile, one of the quickest and most aggressive varieties. The first Cuban crocodile wasn't tempted by the quail legs and neither was the second.

They switched from the zig-zag rig to Grant's BattleBot with quails attached. No luck enticing the crocs.

They then decided to put Tory on the line by having Tory entice and then flee a Johnstons crocodile.

Crocodiles are ambush predators and it was quickly becoming clear what that meant: they don't chase prey on land. It's most important to get away from their initial attack.
Real alligators test

They weren't having any luck to get the ambushy crocs to chase so they switched over to an alligator. Both Grant and Kari took their turns dangling quails in front of alligators. Kari did the best at getting an alligator to follow as she slowly zigged and zagged backwards. The zig-zagging didn't really matter because the alligator wasn't chasing quickly.

Troy: "I don't know if she's more afraid of the alligator or the bird"

Busted: crocs probably won't chase you on land, so it doesn't matter if you zig or zag.

[Morat20]

Mythbusters is right in that, yes, crocs and alligators prefer to ambush you in the water. What they're wrong in is that crocodiles and alligators WILL chase you on land if they feel like it.

The issue at hand is "can you outrun a crocodile" and the general consensus is "No, but you can outclimb one".

[Grand Design]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Werner Herzog is watching Bear's career with morbid fascination?







_{And really, Man vs. Wild is just Jackass does Survivorman...}

[Slayerik]

I though he did pretty good given the situation. I think that if he had not run into that Inuit guy he would have been in some shit. But that just proves that he really was in a survival situation, and survived 6 days in a freaking deathtrap and made it out. A little luck and a shit load of skill.

If by 'made it out' you mean he was taken away by helicoptor once his water ran out, then ok.

I'm not saying there is much he could have done better, but hell...he had like 5 days of water. He made it 6. He caught a few scorps and made a scorp-ka-bob (which kicked ass) and didn't get bit. I was just...underwhelmed overall by the episode.

[Roac]

If by 'made it out' you mean he was taken away by helicoptor once his water ran out, then ok.

I'm not saying there is much he could have done better, but hell...he had like 5 days of water. He made it 6. He caught a few scorps and made a scorp-ka-bob (which kicked ass) and didn't get bit. I was just...underwhelmed overall by the episode.

He had four gallons, so about four days worth of water.  That's about right as he ran out on day 4, and went two more days getting water on his own.  I agree that it wasn't a very good episode though - mostly it was "I need to not move, to conserve water".  True, but dull. 

[cmlancas]

No need to fear crocodiles in Florida.  The alligators are pretty rough, though.  I hear that they cannot zig-zag, so if my wife and I are ever pursued by one then we will find out.  She is the zig-zagger and I am the tree-climber.  I am also the stay-out-of-the fucking-waterer.

I've been about five feet from alligators on the Hillsborough River while kayaking. They won't fuck with you if you don't fuck with them. The whole idea of OMGALLIGATORWTFWEWILLDIE!!!sin(0)! is silly in and of itself.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Man I think that I would have a hard time being cool as ice around an alligator. I don't think I would Run and freak out, but I certainly would be pretty spooked. SO I could see the whole, "stay the hell out of alligator infested water" as a pretty good way to look at things. I tend to not put myself into situations that could quickly and easily get out of control and dangerous.

[WayAbvPar]

No need to fear crocodiles in Florida.  The alligators are pretty rough, though.  I hear that they cannot zig-zag, so if my wife and I are ever pursued by one then we will find out.  She is the zig-zagger and I am the tree-climber.  I am also the stay-out-of-the fucking-waterer.

I've been about five feet from alligators on the Hillsborough River while kayaking. They won't fuck with you if you don't fuck with them. The whole idea of OMGALLIGATORWTFWEWILLDIE!!!sin(0)! is silly in and of itself.

It only takes 1 ill-tempered one to fuck your entire day up.

[Murgos]

Every single golf course in south Florida is infested with wild alligators.  If you've ever watched one haul itself up out of the water you would realize that when it's on land it's taking a break.

[Morat20]

Every single golf course in south Florida is infested with wild alligators.  If you've ever watched one haul itself up out of the water you would realize that when it's on land it's taking a break.

Unless you piss it off.

Now me? I stay away from alligators, they stay away from me.

But let's face it -- some people try to pet wild buffalo. People are stupid.

[Hayduke]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, Bear is hardcore-

Bear

[Yegolev]

Dude do you hate Mythbusters too?

I think Mythbusters is great, but if I do have a small problem it would just be that they are tackling some bigger items than what can be done with their time/budget/knowhow.  Still a great show and I'd love to do that stuff.  Incidentally, the fire-starting episode was a good example of this.  I am pretty sure people can start fires, but they were just doing it wrong.  I'm going to give it a shot myself, hopefully before the summer ends.

[Murgos]

I've started fires using the stick and groove method.  It's a pain in the ass and the wood does have to be just right (very dry) but it's doable.  You have to put your back into it.

[bhodi]

I did, once, when I was a kid. It's a huge pain in the ass and I hope to never do it again.

[Morat20]

I've started fires using the stick and groove method.  It's a pain in the ass and the wood does have to be just right (very dry) but it's doable.  You have to put your back into it.

Both Survivorman and Bear have started fires with the stick-and-groove method. Both complained about how much it sucked. :)

[Yegolev]

I have been told it is difficult but considering everything I have said in this thread, I should give it a go.

[Slayerik]

One nice thing about being a smoker....If i'm ever stranded in the wilderness I will have flame. And a reserve pack of matches....so that method can kiss my soon to be lung-cancer-having-ass

[Yegolev]

You can carry a lighter without giving yourself lung cancer.  Just saying.

[dusematic]

Anyone see the last Survivorman in the Kalahari

WTF did he prove? That he was a dead man?

The biggest travety about that episode was that he brought fucking peanut butter and jelly with him.  Unacceptable.

[Yegolev]

Hey, I finally watched Survivorman.  The Kalahari episode, too.  I like Les and his show a great deal.  The man suffers for this art.