New Blizzard game to be announced at Blizzcon?

[Shrike]

I think a few are forgetting just how hard D2 (especially v1.11) could be with 8-person teams on hell difficulty. Epic Tristram was no joke.

On the other hand, the game scaled (after a manner) with team size, so you didn't often see the two-hit wonders that you do in WoW instances. Of course, there was the whole elemental damage/resistance thing, but, yeah, overall it was more individually satisfying. Groups were fun becasue they were groups and loot was there for the taking (if you spent the time), group or no.

What I would like to see would be something more along the lines of the action-oriented PSO set in Diablo's Sancturary world. We have more than enough diku MUDs. World of Sanctuary sounds amusing in theory, but I for one don't want another WoW.

[Fabricated]

that's pretty much what i really missed while doing instances in WoW. I kept wondering why I spent my time hitting 70 and the crap I'm hitting takes 10 of us to take down. I would pretty much prefer if every instance runs lets every member take on 2-3 at once. Take away this 'me cloth, me healer' nonsense and let the shadow priests have their fun melting faces. DPS = Fun. Let the bosses be the only ones that took 10 of us to take down. Trashes are supposed to be weak-shits, not a 2 hit KO tank. The funny shit is some bosses don't even kill tanks that fast.

Heroics in WoW are good example of this. Trash in Heroic Ramparts and Blood Furnace can instantly erase cloth/leather, and 2-shot mail if they're lucky...meanwhile, the bosses just have an odd gimmick you figure out and then they're pretty much cake. All those big numbers on your equipment is to survive the brutal asspounding the trash deals out.

[WindupAtheist]

I want Diablo 3, not Diablo MMO.  Fuck MMO gaming.  I'll keep to my little stone-age UO habit, but beyond that the genre can lick my balls.  I want single-player, damnit.  I don't want to pay an extra $15 a month just to deal with lag, battlenet-trash morons, and all the usual stupid MMO bullshit like travel times, gold farmers, and crafting-versus-loot debates.

Throw that shit down a mineshaft.  I want Diablo.  I want to kill fucking millions of monsters while loot showers all over the ground, level up five times per night, and not have to give a fuck about anyone else.  If I can invite a couple of friends along that's great, but the general public?  Fuck them.  More monsters for me.

[Azazel]

I  ..agree.

I already pay one sub for a game that vaguely holds my interest. World of Diablo? Fuck, if I wanted to play a game like WoW, I already have a game like that, called WoW. Fuck Hellgate: London and their bullshit business model. Just give me Diablo again, the same, but with more shiney. Other humans should be an optional extra for Diablo. Not a core part of the game.

But yeah, a lot of the flavour of Diablo's classes already got recycled into Warcraft with the way they did druids with shapechanging and paladins and their auras and so on and so forth.

[schild]

I don't think I'm the only one here who would have been willing to pay $10 a month to see massive continuing development on Diablo 2.

Oh man, I probably would've paid $15.

Not gonna lie, I don't care what flavor my Diablo comes in at this point.

[cmlancas]

Diablo Pokemans?

[schild]

Sure, why not. I'll take that over Ghost or some new IP.

[Nonentity]

Sure, why not. I'll take that over Ghost or some new IP.

Hm.

Pokéablo?

[schild]

I would love that.

[Nonentity]

I would just like to say I'm very proud of the fact that I put a skull cap on a Squirtle, complete with pointy tip on it!

[sinij]

It had better be Diablo fucking 3.  World of Shitcraft my ass.  Fuck Starcraft.

I heard its going to be working 3D client for UO.

[fnddf2]

Just as an exercise, I'll try and think of what the common aspects were between Diablo I and II that an MMO usually doesn't have.

*as mentioned, fighting lots of monsters at once, and lots of loot dropping
*dodging/aiming (fully controlled, real dodging - not done through "rolls") is important
*not getting close to your enemies or surrounded by your enemies is usually important

These traits, I think, will be passed on to the next Diablo.  I would hope that Blizzard would want to keep Diablo III unique in its own way, and not make it too MMO-ish.

[Shrike]

From your keyboard to Blizzard's eyes/ears/whatever.

I want to see PSO style play dynamics without ST's shitty support. I want hordes of 3D monsters to mow down like...well... to mow down. I want amazons, rogues, bubbas, and dumbshit paladins. All that good stuff. And loot. Just tons of loot dropping every which-what way. Most useless, sure, but man, the loot. And all this bloody demonic goodness achieavable on my time schedule and without 24 of my closest friends...   

Gimme. NOW.

[bhodi]

I want a fucking huge inventory. I want to be able to carry so much loot that it becomes ludicrous. I want to lug around enough weapons to out fit an army, and enough armor that if I melted it all down, I could build my own castle. I don't want to play the inventory management minigame, I want my own pocket dimension.

For my final quest, I want to have to climb over top of the mountain of studded leather armor that I own to see the other side. I want it to take years. I want my inventory to have it's own name, social security number, and zipcode. I want passing spaceships to have to take it into account during their astrogation calculations. I want my loot measured in metric tons, not in items inventoried.

For a minigame, I want to build lootcastles... at a 1:1 scale. I want to be able to clear out a dungeon, and then flood it with coinage. I will be the packrat of all packrats, and none shall oppose me.

[Trippy]

I want a fucking huge inventory. I want to be able to carry so much loot that it becomes ludicrous. I want to lug around enough weapons to out fit an army, and enough armor that if I melted it all down, I could build my own castle. I don't want to play the inventory management minigame, I want my own pocket dimension.

I agree. I spent more time managing my loot in games like Dungeon Siege than actually killing things. In Diablo I just cheated and made my own items to get around the storage problem.

[Yegolev]

I would just like to say I'm very proud of the fact that I put a skull cap on a Squirtle, complete with pointy tip on it!

Right, now go make that game.

[Nonentity]

I would just like to say I'm very proud of the fact that I put a skull cap on a Squirtle, complete with pointy tip on it!

Right, now go make that game.

I... man, you're putting me on the spot here. My impressive prototyping skills with mspaint at work are no match for a true game designer.

I'll make a flash video about it or something, I don't know.

[Yegolev]

Just put the DING sound in it and you'll make a mint.

[Nonentity]

Just put the DING sound in it and you'll make a mint.

I'm not sure how I would fit the 'catch 'em all' part of Pokemon into Diablo.

Do I name loot after Pokemon?

'Godly Breastplate of the Charizard'?

"*air whirling noise* *ping* CHARIZARD"

[Ironwood]

I want a fucking huge inventory. I want to be able to carry so much loot that it becomes ludicrous. I want to lug around enough weapons to out fit an army, and enough armor that if I melted it all down, I could build my own castle. I don't want to play the inventory management minigame, I want my own pocket dimension.

I agree. I spent more time managing my loot in games like Dungeon Siege than actually killing things. In Diablo I just cheated and made my own items to get around the storage problem.

You did what with who now ?

[Trippy]

Eh?

[Ironwood]

You MADE your own items ?

In Diablo ?

How ?

[schild]

There was an editor that existed just for that purpose.

[WindupAtheist]

Not gonna lie, I don't care what flavor my Diablo comes in at this point.

D2 was fun to me because it was like an MMO stripped of all the bullshit.  Fast leveling, no grouping required, no healer classes, no endgame, and no sense that the developers gave a shit how long you played in and of itself.  Nobody was putting in social dynamics forcing you to interact with Lolbewbs69 the sorceress in hopes that you would become friends and continue to pay a monthly fee that much longer.  Nobody expected you to stare at an empty road for ten straight minutes as your character slogged away on auto-run.  It was just kill, loot, level, repeat distilled into crack.

I guarantee that if they do a Diablo MMO, they'll fuck it up with so many cockblocks and timesinks that it'll just be WoW with more monsters.

[schild]

Or it'll be Diablo with a level cap of OVER 9,000.

[Ironwood]

Damn. 

[Nonentity]

Or it'll be Diablo with a level cap of OVER 9,000.

Can you imagine the skill tree on that one? Hoo doggy.

[schild]

Or it'll be Diablo with a level cap of OVER 9,000.

Can you imagine the skill tree on that one? Hoo doggy.

I'll admit it. I'd write love letters to my character and fanfiction for the world.

[MrHat]

I don't think my wife would let me play Diablo 3 knowningly.

[Yegolev]

You MADE your own items ?

In Diablo ?

How ?

Not being good at internet searching at the time, I just dicked around with the saves using a hex editor.  Totally ruined the game and I did not play it again for at least a couple years.

[schild]

You never cheat in Diablo. it's such a pure game. Cheating is like... like... just wrong man, wrong.

[Nonentity]

You never cheat in Diablo. it's such a pure game. Cheating is like... like... just wrong man, wrong.

Man, I cheated back in the original Diablo when I was like, 12.

It ruined the game for me. I'd find myself having the urge to dupe chainmail as soon as I got to the level I could wear it.

[WindupAtheist]

I downloaded some program years ago so I could move my skill points around.  (I don't consider it cheating, rather I consider the lack of a respec mechanic to be one of the game's few glaring flaws, especially when they change shit with patches.)  It also let you do a bunch of other crazy stuff.  I made a sword with a 100% chance to reanimate killed monsters as tame Diablos, and gave it to a level one newbie.  It was hard to tell with the little sprites and all, but I'd like to think Blood Raven looked really surprised.

But yeah, you can't seriously cheat in Diablo and have any fun.  It's not like you're in it for the story.  When it's all about levels and loot, making yourself uber just renders the game pointless.

PS:  You know I'm right about Diablo MMO.  You may not admit it, but on some level, you just know.

[Yegolev]

PS:  You know I'm right about Diablo MMO.  You may not admit it, but on some level, you just know.

Right about what part?  That it will suck due to cockblocks?  Seems obvious to me.  Did I miss someone disagreeing?

[WayAbvPar]

They really need to make D3 and quick, otherwise I will have to dig up my D2 disks and try it again. Although I guess I could go back and finish Titan Quest instead...