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Der Helm
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Reply #315 on: July 29, 2007, 03:17:59 PM

If anyone wants a guest key PM me with a email address, I went with the lifetime thing at release so I have no need for the game time cards however if I refer you it gets you in the door for ten a month and I will give any time cards I receive away here.

the link: http://www.lotro.com/referral
Does this work with a downloadable client ? If yes I would gladly give it a try.

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Reply #316 on: July 29, 2007, 08:01:51 PM

If anyone wants a guest key PM me with a email address, I went with the lifetime thing at release so I have no need for the game time cards however if I refer you it gets you in the door for ten a month and I will give any time cards I receive away here.

the link: http://www.lotro.com/referral
Does this work with a downloadable client ? If yes I would gladly give it a try.

I think so. The way it works is I submit a email address on my account page, they email you the key and other information. I have 3 slots left as of now.

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Reply #317 on: July 30, 2007, 02:05:31 PM

So I downloaded the client, activated my trial account and guess what  I have been doing in the last 30 minutes ?

PATCHING THE CLIENT I JUST DOWNLOADED FROM THE WEBSITE OF THE COMPANY THAT PRODUCED THE FUCKING GAME!

And the patcher has just reached the part where it updates the game data. I am at 2 % done right now. After more than half an hour.

100 of 2892 files done.

God, stuff like that makes me angry.

Now I feel better.

edit: 461/2892 files, 10%. This patcher is worse than Blizzard`s

edit2: 1078/2892 files, 25%. I might start breaking things ...
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Reply #318 on: July 30, 2007, 03:09:11 PM

Well, you are patching the entire game disk onto your machine. IIRC, the client you DL is just the launcher.

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Reply #319 on: July 30, 2007, 03:18:05 PM

Well, you are patching the entire game disk onto your machine. IIRC, the client you DL is just the launcher.
The launcher has a size of over 3 Gb ?

Did Hound trick me into downloading Vanguard ?

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Reply #320 on: July 30, 2007, 03:32:18 PM

Yeah, one of the patches is quite painful.

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Reply #321 on: July 30, 2007, 03:33:24 PM

Well, you are patching the entire game disk onto your machine. IIRC, the client you DL is just the launcher.
The launcher has a size of over 3 Gb ?

Did Hound trick me into downloading Vanguard ?

Ah that may be different now, then.  When I was in the beta, your download was just the patcher. I don't recall if that was 3GB or not...


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Reply #322 on: July 30, 2007, 03:34:12 PM

Well I think one of the funniest things about LOTRO, is that the engine is pretty much a cleaned up version of DDO.  The character models are very similar to DDO, to the point that I can almost make the exact kind of male/female human character with same hairstyles and everything.

Money and development time probably didn’t get thrown into the engine at all, or the UI which is also very similar to DDO down to the whisper sounds, and the layout.  The mechanics are different but the overall structure is the same in the look and feel.

Of course since it is the same company, it makes sense to reuse the engine, but I just found that to be funny either way.  Plus I have not seen that mentioned too much in any reviews I have read.  They usually compare the game to WoW but rarely if at all to DDO which seems to be the proving ground for the underlying technologies of the game.

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Reply #323 on: July 30, 2007, 03:37:54 PM

Yeah, one of the patches is quite painful.

51% 1840/2892 Files.

Way to give a great first impression to your potential consumer. It can't be that hard to put the uptodate version of your client on the download server.

CCP manages to do that for every update I ever downloaded. Hell, sometimes I downloaded the whole client, just to be sure I had the newest version.

But this is ridicioulus, I downloaded the game for two hours and now I have been patching for additional two hourse. I even yelled at the screen.

And why can I only download at~ 55 kb/s. Evertime the speed goes over 60 kb/s on the next file it starts at 50 kb/s again.

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Reply #324 on: July 30, 2007, 03:39:37 PM

Ah that may be different now, then.  When I was in the beta, your download was just the patcher. I don't recall if that was 3GB or not...

I was in beta as well, the download was faster then, after I fiddled with my IE security settings to get it started at all.

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Reply #325 on: July 30, 2007, 03:41:43 PM

Well I think one of the funniest things about LOTRO, is that the engine is pretty much a cleaned up version of DDO.
Which was a cleaned up version of the AC2 engine.
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Reply #326 on: July 30, 2007, 03:43:29 PM

Hehe Der, I feel for you having bitched about the exact same thing when trying EQ2 a few months back. 80mb download, 4gb patch.

But it could be worse. You could be patching WoW over torrent.
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Reply #327 on: July 30, 2007, 03:51:56 PM

Hehe Der,...
Damm it. "Der" is a German article. Like your "the".

Trippy, could you do me a favor and change my name to just "Helm", I've meant to do that (ask one of the admins) for several months now, "Dar" just reminded me of it.

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But it could be worse. You could be patching WoW over torrent.
Actually I found that my last WoW patching was rather painless, compared to this one. And I did not play for about a year, BC update and all that.

edit: 61% bitches ...

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Reply #328 on: July 30, 2007, 04:35:53 PM

Well I think one of the funniest things about LOTRO, is that the engine is pretty much a cleaned up version of DDO.
Which was a cleaned up version of the AC2 engine.

Having never played AC2, I can't comment on that bug given my experience with these two games it makes sense.

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Reply #329 on: July 30, 2007, 05:52:27 PM

Hehe Der,...
Damm it. "Der" is a German article. Like your "the"
Always wondered about that. Thanks mleh :)
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Reply #330 on: July 30, 2007, 07:38:01 PM

Die, Der, Die. 

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Reply #331 on: July 31, 2007, 01:00:46 AM


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Reply #332 on: July 31, 2007, 05:27:02 AM


'Reality' is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes.
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Reply #333 on: July 31, 2007, 07:18:40 AM

     

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Reply #334 on: July 31, 2007, 08:22:32 AM


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Reply #335 on: July 31, 2007, 09:05:31 AM

Damn. You people have me repeating  Article conjugation.

Also capitalizing  Nouns which I do all the timeanyway, fucking german classes.


der
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den
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dem
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des
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It's rattling around in my head and it JUST WON'T STOP!

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Reply #336 on: July 31, 2007, 12:04:06 PM

You can't possibly expect them to edit the game file after EACH patch.  I can't think of a single MMO that I have played that has done that ever (EQ1, EQ2, DAoC, UO, AC2, Shadowbane).  Plus some of that large download is the FREE expansion stuff they put in such as Evendim.

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Reply #337 on: July 31, 2007, 12:18:55 PM

Did you really expect that someone on this board would not find something to complain about regarding a free trial download?

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Reply #338 on: July 31, 2007, 12:20:06 PM

Why don't we just complain about complaining? That is what sets us apart from the beasts.

What good could come of this thread anyway? ><

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Reply #339 on: July 31, 2007, 12:22:50 PM

Did you really expect that someone on this board would not find something to complain about regarding a free trial download?
If Turbine were really in the triple-A league, they would have tuxedo-clad men abseil from helicopters bearing a copy on silver platters, then install it on your machines while you sip brandy near the fire.

Only bush-league fuckers make you download it off the fucking net.
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Reply #340 on: July 31, 2007, 02:48:45 PM

You can't possibly expect them to edit the game file after EACH patch.  I can't think of a single MMO that I have played that has done that ever (EQ1, EQ2, DAoC, UO, AC2, Shadowbane).  Plus some of that large download is the FREE expansion stuff they put in such as Evendim.
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Reply #341 on: July 31, 2007, 03:08:51 PM

I have to agree that if you're downloading a file that is the whole game, it should always be current, or at most one minor patch old.  If you're just downloading a patcher, that's something else... But if you DL a 3GB file, it bettwe have the latest version of the files it has in it already.

They have to update the files on the patch servers... is it really that hard to add in a script to re-build the downloadable .exe too?

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Reply #342 on: August 01, 2007, 11:11:12 PM

So I downloaded the client, activated my trial account and guess what  I have been doing in the last 30 minutes ?

PATCHING THE CLIENT I JUST DOWNLOADED FROM THE WEBSITE OF THE COMPANY THAT PRODUCED THE FUCKING GAME!

And the patcher has just reached the part where it updates the game data. I am at 2 % done right now. After more than half an hour.

100 of 2892 files done.

God, stuff like that makes me angry.

Now I feel better.

edit: 461/2892 files, 10%. This patcher is worse than Blizzard`s


It's not using any of your bandwidth though. It's bit patching the data files with only what has changed between the patched game and your copy. If you can figure out a faster way to do it fortune may await you.

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Reply #343 on: August 02, 2007, 12:51:49 AM

It's not using allot of their bandwidth though. It's bit patching the data files with only what has changed between the patched game and your copy. If you can figure out a faster way to do it fortune may await you.
Thats what you meant, no?

They already let me download the whole client, THEN decided to let the patcher upgrade it bit by bit. That is the thing that drove me nearly over the edge.

Like Alkiera said, keeping an (almost) up to date client on your servers can't be that difficult.

edit: Grammar IS hard.
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Reply #344 on: August 02, 2007, 02:34:12 AM

It's not using not allot of their bandwidth though. It's bit patching the data files with only what has changed between the patched game and your copy. If you can figure out a faster way to do it fortune may await you.
Thats what you meant, no?

Actually I would have said a lot.

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Reply #345 on: August 02, 2007, 05:34:40 AM

It's not using not allot of their bandwidth though. It's bit patching the data files with only what has changed between the patched game and your copy. If you can figure out a faster way to do it fortune may await you.
Thats what you meant, no?

Actually I would have said a lot.


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Reply #346 on: August 02, 2007, 02:32:49 PM

Sales numbers. 172,000 for quarter in North America. Unknown still for Europe. Don't know if quarter matched calander quarter or if were any pre-order sales before the April release.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6176030.html
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Reply #347 on: August 02, 2007, 03:21:38 PM

I believe that's about the number that the 20% rule came up with.

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Reply #348 on: August 02, 2007, 07:43:08 PM

172k isn't all that great. But with the EU numbers, it could be as high as 330k units sold as they launched in EU with almost the same number of servers as launched in the US (11 v 12 respectively).

That doesn't translate into active current accounts, nor how many did the lifetime thing.
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Reply #349 on: August 02, 2007, 07:55:12 PM

172k isn't all that great. But with the EU numbers, it could be as high as 330k units sold as they launched in EU with almost the same number of servers as launched in the US (11 v 12 respectively).

That doesn't translate into active current accounts, nor how many did the lifetime thing.

I canceled today and one thing I didn't know about was losing your founder's discount if you cancel. I'm sure there'll be promos around to sign back up with it but it came as a bit of a shock.
They don't even ask why you quit. Guess they don't care.Mostly tedium in my case. Half hour runs to instances, 320 mob kills for first title in later zones and the sheer grind of collecting enough ancient iron ore to gm my metalsmith finally pushed me over the edge and I just didn't feel like playing anymore.

I lasted about 3-4 months which only CoH and maybe Daoc beats for quitting quicker. Other games I usually start alts but the mere thought of doing the grind again makes me tired of it, despite having had about 5 or 6 60 alts in WoW. Most of my alt's exp in LoTR was gotten during the public beta.


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