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on: May 29, 2007, 12:59:43 PM

Figured that we were about due one of these. Rev 2.0 has had a feature freeze(ish), and it's just coding & testing now for deployment in 'summer'.
So it's  time for a quick summary of what I've seen so far -

Capships
Carriers: Triage mode (similar to Dread siege mode) turning carriers into super-logisitics (in the remote repair/cap transfer/etc. sense) at the cost of removing all fighter control.
Titan nerfs: Remote DDD removed, bubbles to effect jump drive, possible change to DDD along the lines of dread siege/carrier triage modes.
Motherships: Getting a remote (LOS only) ECM burst bomb every half-hour.
Dreads: Max targets locked reduced to 2.
Rumoured nerf to fighter-bombs

Stealth Bombers
Now faster, can fit four siege missile launchers, and also get bomb launchers (where bombs = mini-doomsday or ECM burst). Buy them in Jita now before the patch hits.

Sovereignty & POS changes
Blog here (waaay too much to type).
Brute force fix to POS-spamming: a hard cap added to the number of towers an alliance/corp can place per day. Maybe.

Heat
Allows you to overcharge modules for greater effect at the cost of damaging the module. Currently not worth it at all on test.

Amarr
CCP are planning to do...something. VsmileyV

Anything else I missed?

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Reply #1 on: May 29, 2007, 01:08:30 PM

That's the first news from CCP that I've liked in a while.
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Reply #2 on: May 29, 2007, 01:57:03 PM

Just to coll you down a little - CCP is still being their old selves:
Their pos spamming "fix" is a joke( you can still spam before dt, you still cannot defend against it), bombs cost 20M each to make sure you won't be using them in missions (they cannot simply disallow them in missions because "we're just entered feature freeze today, sorry") carriers in Triage mode have zero offensive capabilities and will burn entire cap in ~2 minutes of repping. Heat suxxors since, it just gives everyone +15% with no customization, etc, etc.

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Reply #3 on: May 29, 2007, 02:39:48 PM

The POS changes are extensive, and include Cyno Jammers, player Stargates, and a total rework of how their guns work.  Guns have to go outside of the shield, guns that track fast enough to hit lighter ships have poor range, and players can take control of them and set their targetting (there's also supposed to be improved AI).  The 20M a pop bombs are a mess.  I get the feeling they're rushing this one out to get the POS changes on Live, and some other stuff is riding in with it in a form that's pretty much useless (outpost upgrades, Bombs) or ridiculously overpowered (stealth bombers).  Anyone who buys an Outpost Upgrade at the current prices will need their head examined, and if the "tactical objectives" outpost assault stuff gets in, every outpost will be a useless hunk of junk you can't do anything but dock at within a week (basically, someone can come in and shoot up all of your station services, deactivating them, aborting production jobs, getting your corp's office and therefore your corp hangars turned off).

They can unfreeze the code and take a few more weeks to do this right, or they can spend the next year fixing the damage.

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Reply #4 on: May 29, 2007, 04:11:42 PM

Hey, it's CCP. What do you think they'll do?  :-D

Anyway, I'm just going to fit my Purifier with cruise launchers and fly around blowing up ratting battleships.  evil
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Reply #5 on: May 29, 2007, 04:32:04 PM

Hey, it's CCP. What do you think they'll do?  :-D

Anyway, I'm just going to fit my Purifier with cruise launchers and fly around blowing up ratting battleships.  evil

Now that sounds like fun.

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Reply #6 on: May 30, 2007, 05:40:27 AM

Haven't there been some substantial mentions of fixing / nerfing cloaking by enabling cloaked ships to be detected?

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Reply #7 on: May 30, 2007, 07:01:20 AM

CCP couldn't get it working properly, so they gave up trying.

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Reply #8 on: June 03, 2007, 02:30:13 PM

Just had a play with a stealth bomber and bombs on the test server.

Assuming I'm doing it right ... it feels like WWII submarine warfare, that's the only way I can sum it up - you sneak in, uncloak, drop a bomb and then make fastest (cloaked) exit possible as something explodes behind you.

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Reply #9 on: June 03, 2007, 03:04:29 PM

Tbh it's in group bombing where the fun starts.
Also, with 20M/bomb they could as well make them anti capital weapon.
Dreads killing POSes and frigates killing dreads could be pretty damn evil.
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Reply #10 on: June 03, 2007, 03:48:12 PM

Any word on what the Amarr changes will be?  Skimmed the boards but couldn't find anything.
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Reply #11 on: June 03, 2007, 04:48:30 PM

Better tracking with pulse lasers, fitting changes for some lasers (frigate mediums, something else I forget), EANM nerf. That's about it so far.
Oh, and the 'titan siege' thingy turned out to be a ten minute no jump/warp 'cooldown' after doomsdays, on top of all of the other titan changes.

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Reply #12 on: June 04, 2007, 04:37:39 AM


Stealth Bombers
Now faster, can fit four siege missile launchers, and also get bomb launchers (where bombs = mini-doomsday or ECM burst). Buy them in Jita now before the patch hits.

Did you mean Cruise launchers?

Are you able to quote stats on the bombs and what [new] skills they need and if they need a new launcher type?
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Reply #13 on: June 04, 2007, 10:14:57 AM

Just had a play with a stealth bomber and bombs on the test server.

Assuming I'm doing it right ... it feels like WWII submarine warfare, that's the only way I can sum it up - you sneak in, uncloak, drop a bomb and then make fastest (cloaked) exit possible as something explodes behind you.
That's pure awesome. I could do that shit all damn day.
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Reply #14 on: June 04, 2007, 10:44:26 AM

Just had a play with a stealth bomber and bombs on the test server.

Assuming I'm doing it right ... it feels like WWII submarine warfare, that's the only way I can sum it up - you sneak in, uncloak, drop a bomb and then make fastest (cloaked) exit possible as something explodes behind you.
That's pure awesome. I could do that shit all damn day.

Not for 20M an bomb, you couldn't.
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Reply #15 on: June 04, 2007, 10:58:13 AM

Not for 20M an bomb, you couldn't.
I'd RMT for that. :)

Seriously, the 20M a pop bombs aside -- are there cheaper bombs? Could someone, say, put together a strike force of four of five stealth bombers, sneak in, obliterate some people, and then run away?

Or, in a more piratical fashion, some stealths come in, eliminate the mining escort in a single coordinated strike, then warp in haulers to run off with the loot?

One shot, one kill with stealths is crazy talk (even at 20M a shot), but I'd hope there's some way that a group of three or four can sneak around the edges of a fight -- maybe ambushing EWAR vessels or something -- with smaller bombs/torps/missiles/whatever.
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Reply #16 on: June 04, 2007, 11:12:27 AM

They let you fit cov ops cloaks on them?
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Reply #17 on: June 04, 2007, 11:27:02 AM

Not for 20M an bomb, you couldn't.
I'd RMT for that. :)

Seriously, the 20M a pop bombs aside -- are there cheaper bombs? Could someone, say, put together a strike force of four of five stealth bombers, sneak in, obliterate some people, and then run away?

Or, in a more piratical fashion, some stealths come in, eliminate the mining escort in a single coordinated strike, then warp in haulers to run off with the loot?

One shot, one kill with stealths is crazy talk (even at 20M a shot), but I'd hope there's some way that a group of three or four can sneak around the edges of a fight -- maybe ambushing EWAR vessels or something -- with smaller bombs/torps/missiles/whatever.


You'd have to question the logistics of that: i suspect it would be easier and cheaper to fit x cruise missiles/torpedoes and just alpha-strike whatever you want to hit. Not as classy though.

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Reply #18 on: June 04, 2007, 11:29:53 AM

You'd have to question the logistics of that: i suspect it would be easier and cheaper to fit x cruise missiles/torpedoes and just alpha-strike whatever you want to hit. Not as classy though.
Well, I'd hate to appear crass, but I'd prefer to win more. :)

I might have to investigate stealth bombers. I'm a bit at a loss as to where I want to go after Battleships, since carriers are a bit cumbersome.
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Reply #19 on: June 04, 2007, 12:22:06 PM

Because of signature radius effects (smaller targets take less damage) this isn't a one-shot against any ships except maybe shuttles.  It will take 4+ to kill just about anything.

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Reply #20 on: June 04, 2007, 12:47:05 PM

They let you fit cov ops cloaks on them?

No, stealth bombers can only fit regular cloaks. Only force recons and covops can fit covops cloaks.

At least, currently. If they're changing that in the patch then holy fuck am I getting me a stealth bomber. They'd be like a covops with teeth.
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Reply #21 on: June 04, 2007, 01:12:26 PM

No, stealth bombers can only fit regular cloaks. Only force recons and covops can fit covops cloaks.

At least, currently. If they're changing that in the patch then holy fuck am I getting me a stealth bomber. They'd be like a covops with teeth.
What's the difference between a regular cloak and a covops cloak?

Given the changes, what are the odds of me forming a Wraith Squadron stealth bombers, tasked with hit-and-run assaults on EWAR platforms and occasional ludicrous acts of piracy?

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Reply #22 on: June 04, 2007, 01:16:08 PM

No, stealth bombers can only fit regular cloaks. Only force recons and covops can fit covops cloaks.

At least, currently. If they're changing that in the patch then holy fuck am I getting me a stealth bomber. They'd be like a covops with teeth.
What's the difference between a regular cloak and a covops cloak?

Given the changes, what are the odds of me forming a Wraith Squadron stealth bombers, tasked with hit-and-run assaults on EWAR platforms and occasional ludicrous acts of piracy?

Covops cloaks let you warp while cloaked. Regular cloaks do not.
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Reply #23 on: June 04, 2007, 01:30:17 PM

Covops cloaks let you warp while cloaked. Regular cloaks do not.
So with a regular cloak -- flying a stealth bomber, for instance -- I would either need to lie in wait 50km+ out (sort of like a hunter), waiting for the right moment to strike. With a covops, I could warp around getting intel and stuff, but not really doing damage.

So if I wanted to create a squadron of killer stealth bombers, I'd either need to predict where my target was going to be (say, a rich field of 'roids in a system where a weakly guarded mining op is underway), or I'd need to warp in a ways out then go stealth while my target was occupied.

It seems stealth bombers would be good basically for either traps (lots of bombers for a coordinated strike) or in bigger fleet battles handling secondary targets, or specialized ships like webbers and jammers. Get in close, drop the bombs before they can jam/web/scramble you, and then run like hell before the DPS guys notice what you just did there.
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Reply #24 on: June 05, 2007, 05:18:16 AM

In theory it sounds good, but the problem will be how to get through gate camps and into the system so you can do your hiding and shooting thing.
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Reply #25 on: June 05, 2007, 05:55:22 AM

In theory it sounds good, but the problem will be how to get through gate camps and into the system so you can do your hiding and shooting thing.
I have not flown one (yet) but as far as I know, you can enter  the system, are still cloaked from the warpgate jump, activate your own cloak, taxy away from the camp, align for warp manually and then warp.

That way you should be visible for only a very short amount of time.

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Reply #26 on: June 05, 2007, 06:16:39 AM

You could use a covops as a spotter and then warp your attack group in at a distance and creep up on an otherwise occupied target.

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Reply #27 on: June 05, 2007, 08:27:11 AM

In theory it sounds good, but the problem will be how to get through gate camps and into the system so you can do your hiding and shooting thing.
I have not flown one (yet) but as far as I know, you can enter  the system, are still cloaked from the warpgate jump, activate your own cloak, taxy away from the camp, align for warp manually and then warp.

That way you should be visible for only a very short amount of time.

You must decloak from the gate cloak before it will let you engage the cloaking device

However with a little bit of practice the amount of time you are visible on overview is really really small - to the point that the only way you can get caught is if something is within or gets within 2k of you to decloak you (in popular lowsec gatecamp systems this can be quite common due to the number of corpses which might not be displayed on your overview!) so it pays to change your vector once you cloak in case a fast inty got a bead on you

Obviously unless you are in a bubble or stealth bomber once cloaked you can just warp away

Can anyone answer my earlier question about skill reqs/new modules for the bomber stuff please?
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Reply #28 on: June 05, 2007, 09:01:56 AM

You must decloak from the gate cloak before it will let you engage the cloaking device

However with a little bit of practice the amount of time you are visible on overview is really really small - to the point that the only way you can get caught is if something is within or gets within 2k of you to decloak you (in popular lowsec gatecamp systems this can be quite common due to the number of corpses which might not be displayed on your overview!) so it pays to change your vector once you cloak in case a fast inty got a bead on you

Obviously unless you are in a bubble or stealth bomber once cloaked you can just warp away
And even then, you will lose ships. For example, I lost a covops to a hostile gatecamp last night because someone warped in right on top of me, purely by chance. I had a spare covops cloak that I was bringing back from Empire in the hold, too.

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Can anyone answer my earlier question about skill reqs/new modules for the bomber stuff please?
Bombs cost 15-20M to make, are fairly sizable (one per cargo hold pretty much, so a bomber could hold two tops - one in the launcher, one in cargo), are immune to their own damage type, and have a 15 second 'fuse'. Bomb launchers are a seperate module, and they require a new skill for them (which has missile bombardment 5 as a pre-req).

And yes, I did mean cruise launchers. ;)

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Reply #29 on: June 05, 2007, 11:14:33 AM

Bombs cost 15-20M to make, are fairly sizable (one per cargo hold pretty much, so a bomber could hold two tops - one in the launcher, one in cargo), are immune to their own damage type, and have a 15 second 'fuse'. Bomb launchers are a seperate module, and they require a new skill for them (which has missile bombardment 5 as a pre-req).

And yes, I did mean cruise launchers. ;)

When I nosed t'other day around the launcher held 2 bombs, and I could squeeze 2 bombs into my 180m3 cargo plus some cruise missiles.  Fuse wasn't anywhere near 15 seconds ... seemed closer to 5.  Being cloaked when it went off reduced the damage my (very poor) setup was taking, being uncloaked with resists made me pop.


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Reply #30 on: June 11, 2007, 07:05:15 AM

POS-bowling fix on Test: 'Warp to zero' on an active POS actually warps you to ~5km outside the shield. As well as fixing the exploit, it's going to make things...interesting for hot refuelling, etc.

Prediction for next complaint about POS warfare: Smartbombing capitals parked 5km off the shield. :D

Edit: OK, not as bad as it sounds - the 5km only happens with hostile POSes.
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Reply #31 on: June 12, 2007, 01:34:08 PM

Complexes go bye-bye
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Ok, this will be going out in a dev blog at some point (hopefully - it's written, but it's being held up somewhere in the editorial process), but we're getting close enough to release that the info needs to get out somewhere, and this is probably the best place.

We were hoping to have special per-constellation distributions for existing complex sites. This will not make it into the initial Revelations 2.0 release. It will probably make it into a fix release soon after. Here's why.

Currently, when a site despawns, it respawns elsewhere in the same distribution. When the distribution covers five regions, this is not considered a problem, as there's several hundred systems it could move to.

When the distribution is a single constellation, there's usually half a dozen possible candidates. With a dedicated team of scanners and combat pilots you can keep the entire constellation clear of other Unknown signatures reasonably easily. This means that if someone finds an Unknown, chances are it's the plex you're after.

If you have ten scanning pilots, then any combination of signature radius and sensor strength that it's remotely possible for a normal player to find within say six hours will be run down very very quickly. Find the complex, complete it and it respawns immediately within the same constellation. Thirty minutes max to relocate it, and you can run it all over again. If it takes thirty minutes to run, that means you can run it on the hour every hour all day long, and with some PvP support you can camp out the constellation so nobody else can run it either. Essentially, it becomes a license to farm - and farm hard - for any well-organized force.

The only sensible solution here is some kind of respawn delay timer on the sites, so we can force them not to reappear for a defined period of time. This tool does not currently exist as this situation was not envisioned when the original distribution tools were written. Unfortunately, by the time this problem surfaced it was too late to get such a fundamental change to the system implemented in time for Revelations 2. Faced with the alternative between making these distributions hideously farmable and just disabling them for now, we opted to disable them.

Most of the hard part of the authoring work is already done - I have a list of all the candidate constellations and associated complexes, and all the distribution groups exist, they're just not populated. We're hoping to have the tools in place to implement these distributions soon after Revelations 2, but obviously I'm not making any promises on dates.

We're aware that this will have an impact on the way large alliances in particular are funded; that said, complexes were originally designed as high-end, challenging PvE content with good rewards, and not as alliance-level revenue generators restricted to approved pilots only and run mechanically day after day. We will monitor what effects this change has and re-assess our plans once we have the capability to resolve this issue - I'm not ruling out anything at this stage, although it's probable that we will do something to ensure that large-scale infrastructure projects based around existing complex sites will end up with some sort of special resource.

Hopefully this post makes it clear that this wasn't a decision we took on a whim, and that the available, realistic alternatives forced this particular outcome.
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Reply #32 on: June 12, 2007, 05:23:24 PM

That's a fantastic decision that should have been done long ago.


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although it's probable that we will do something to ensure that large-scale infrastructure projects based around existing complex sites will end up with some sort of special resource.

... and yet they find a way to possibly make it meaningless.
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Reply #33 on: June 13, 2007, 03:22:14 PM

Sovereignty changes spelt out.
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Hello everyone,

I am here today to talk about one of the main features coming for Revelations 2, namely Upgradeable and Constellation Sovereignty.

As you may already know, sovereignty is being expanded and revised, and while the nature of some of the changes is under constant review, here’s a comprehensive summary of their scope.
Why?

This is the first question that springs to mind; why the changes?

This question is best answered or illustrated by explaining the changes themselves, but seeing as it’s an important question, and the technicalities of the changes long, it would be a good idea to address it first.

One of the philosophies here at CCP is to work in iterative processes, and as a part of that, we often release new content in batches; laying down the basics, monitoring it for feedback and building on that. This is true for Sovereignty; for which the underlying mechanics have seen review and change, and are now finally being expanded upon – something that was planned since inception.

In other words, now that the stepping stone is firmly set, we are hoping to consolidate the foundation and build further up.

The gameplay reasons and goals, which are the defining factor for any and all changes happening, are manifold; giving more goals (long and short-term) for players to work towards; better rewarding the dedication and work put into claiming your corner of space as well as expanding the field to the whole constellation rather than isolated pockets.

Hence, we are introducing the possibility of “upgrading” your sovereignty and work towards sovereignty on a constellation level, through investments in both time and equipment.

Allow me to explain.
Sovereignty Today

Claiming sovereignty of a system today consists of anchoring a starbase control tower in a system and waiting for the countdown to expire in order for sovereignty to go into effect.

Sovereignty is also only on a per system basis, meaning that the effects of having sovereignty do not go beyond that one system; there is no bigger picture and no special benefit in having sovereignty over more than one system in a constellation or region.
Sovereignty Tomorrow

While the scope and specifics of the changes are still under constant scrutiny, we are looking into putting limits to the claiming mechanics, which have been touched upon by TomB, but this would be the subject of another blog; I am merely mentioning it to give a better idea of what the whole picture is forming up to be.

What this devblog will talk about are the concepts of Upgradeable and Constellation Sovereignty.

So onto the nitty-gritty;
Upgradeable Sovereignty

As the name indicates, the idea is to introduce more levels of sovereignty; each will have different requirements in time, assets and territorial (or spatial) control.

The mechanics for claiming and loosing sovereignty in a system remain the same. It is also important to note that sovereignty changes are enforced during downtime.

Please note that the specific numbers and exact bonuses for each Sovereignty may change at release.

Also note that another blog detailing the exact nature of the outpost upgrades and improvements is forthcoming.

Sovereignty 0

This is the base level at which unclaimed systems are.

Sovereignty 1

This level is reached when a starbase is anchored and sovereignty is held for 7 days in the system.

Sovereignty 1 allows for:

    * 25% reduction in fuel usage to all starbases belonging to the sovereign alliance
    * Possibility of deploying an Outpost in the system
    * Anchoring of Capital Ship Arrays at starbases belonging to the sovereign alliance

Sovereignty 2

This level is reached when Sovereignty 1 has been held for 14 days in the system.

Sovereignty 2 allows for:

    * Anchoring of Cynosural Field Generator Array
    * Anchoring of Scanner Array
    * Upgrading an Outpost in the system to Tier 1

Sovereignty 3

This level is reached when Sovereignty 2 has been held for 14 days in the system.

Sovereignty 3 allows for:

    * Anchoring of Twinned Jump Bridge
    * Anchoring of Cynosural Field Jammer
    * Upgrading the Outpost to Tier 2
    * Ability to set the Outpost as Capital for Constellation Sovereignty

Sovereignty 3 in a system is also one of the requirements for Constellation Sovereignty, which will be explained right after Sovereignty 4 is detailed.

Sovereignty 4

This level is reached when:

    * A system with Sovereignty 3 has its Outpost set as Capital for 30 days
    * Constellation Sovereignty is in effect

Sovereignty 4 allows for invulnerability of the Capital system;

    * Upgrading the Outpost in the Capital to Tier 3
    * Starbase control towers, conquerable stations and outposts belonging to the sovereign alliance may not be attacked
    * Sovereignty in the Capital system cannot be lost (or contested) while Sovereignty 4 is in effect

We finally arrive to;
Constellation Sovereignty

Constellation Sovereignty expands the marking to the whole constellation, and requires;

    * Majority of the systems in the constellation to have at least Sovereignty 1 for the sovereign alliance
    * Ownership of three stations (Conquerable or Outpost) in the constellation for the sovereign alliance
    * One of the Outpost systems set as Capital (which requires Sovereignty 3)

These conditions have to have been held for at least 14 days in order for Constellation Sovereignty to come into effect.

Constellation Sovereignty allows for;

    * Sovereignty 4 in the Capital system
    * Fuel bonus upgrade from 25% to 30% to all starbases in the constellation belonging to the sovereign alliance
    * Faster claim – in 1 day – to Sovereignty 1 in the constellation for unclaimed systems for the sovereign alliance

All conditions have to be kept in order for the Sovereignty level, or status, to remain in effect.

Before we go further, let us detail the Capital system a bit more;
Capital System

The ability to set a station as Capital is only possible when the sovereignty of the system reaches Sovereignty 3, and once selected, it is not possible to change capitals until Constellation Sovereignty has been lost again. This makes for a tactical decision to be taken when choosing your capital because of what if offers.

Setting a station (and indirectly the solar system) as Capital enables for Constellation Sovereignty and starts the countdown for Sovereignty 4 in that system; the countdown is started even if Constellation Sovereignty is not yet in effect, however, Sovereignty 4 only goes in effect once all conditions for it have been met.

Sovereignty 4 is the pinnacle of Upgradeable Sovereignty – it transforms the capital into a castle’s keep, with Constellation Sovereignty acting as the walls; so long as it is in effect, the Capital system cannot be conquered or contested. It remains, however, accessible (i.e. anyone can travel through it) and may be raided (the capital station’s services may be disabled as on any other station).

This brings us to the next question everyone must be asking themselves; “how do we knock the castle down?”

Here’s how;
Bring in the Trebuchets

On a per-system level, the mechanics are the same; whoever has the most Starbases in the system has sovereignty after that the claiming period is over. Losing sovereignty, however, is a little bit different:

Sovereignty 1, 2 and 3

Losing sovereignty in a system of either of the levels means that the sovereignty of the system drops back to zero (Sovereignty 0) and has to be reclaimed from scratch; meaning that anyone reclaiming or conquering the system would need to start from Sovereignty 1 and go back up.

Sovereignty 4

Being particular to the Capital system, this sovereignty level has two specificities;

    * Sovereignty 4 may only be lost if Constellation Sovereignty is lost by the sovereign alliance.
    * When losing Sovereignty 4, the system Sovereignty is downgraded to Sovereignty 3 rather than being completely lost.

This of course entails that Capital system invulnerability is no longer in effect.

Constellation Sovereignty

In order for Constellation Sovereignty to be contested one (or more) of its required conditions has to be denied, meaning that if the sovereign alliance;

    * Loses its majority claim of the systems in the constellation, or
    * Does not have control of 3 stations (Outposts or Conquerable) anymore, or
    * Loses ownership of its Capital station

The Constellation Sovereignty becomes contested.

Unlike system sovereignty, Constellation Sovereignty does not drop back to zero the next day; it rather goes into a contested mode for 7 days, which is called the grace period.

During this grace period, Constellation Sovereignty remains in effect, as do its bonuses; the defender then has the opportunity to recover that which he has lost, or expand further in the constellation to meet the recovery conditions.

The recovery conditions that the defender has to fulfill are;

    * Sovereignty over the majority of the systems in the constellation, and
    * Control of 3 stations (Conquerable or Outposts) in the constellation, and
    * One of the outposts set as Capital (if none of the controlled systems have Sovereignty 4)

At the end of the grace period, if the defender is meeting all of the recovery conditions, his claim to Constellation Sovereignty remains intact. If the conditions are not met, Constellation Sovereignty is lost but the individual system sovereignty claims in the constellation remain in effect, except for Sovereignty 4 in the Capital system which is downgraded to 3.

It is worth noting that the grace period cannot be reset or extended; the 7 days are fixed and any sovereignty or influence shifts during that time is not taken into account; only the evaluation (last) day is taken into account.

It is also important to note that the days are counted from downtime to downtime rather than from 00:00 (midnight) to 00:00.
Use Cases

A picture is worth a thousand words, as they say.

So, in an effort to better illustrate the contents of this blog, here are two (three actually) possible scenarios for the colonization and attack/defense of a constellation.

Figure 1 - Claiming Constellation Sovereignty

Figure 2 – Conquering and defending Constellation Sovereignty

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In Closing

These changes are just as huge as the first introduction of Sovereignty, and we are very much aware of that fact; much work, discussions, test scenarios, tweaking and tinkering has been done for everything listed above, and we sincerely hope you’re as excited about the changes coming in as we are in bringing them out!

Oh, and before we part, allow me to introduce myself; I am LeMousse and it’s a pleasure meeting you all :)

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Reply #34 on: June 13, 2007, 05:03:24 PM

Sooo... after all the talk we are back to POS spam? Nice.

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