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on: May 16, 2007, 02:20:16 PM


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Reply #1 on: May 16, 2007, 02:30:14 PM

That was entertaining.

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Reply #2 on: May 16, 2007, 02:37:51 PM

Hee hee hee.

Lots of voice acting and mocap for a multiplayer game, though.
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Reply #3 on: May 16, 2007, 07:26:18 PM

The whole TF2 thing is looking very stylish and the flavour they're doing like 'Who touched Sasha' is great, but why should we be excited by a reskin of the exact same game I was playing in 1997?  Or is there some you-beaut changes I'm not aware of?  2forts is fun and all, but its been played to death already.
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Reply #4 on: May 16, 2007, 07:28:33 PM

Hiding your dot so you can sneakily snipe people is always fun.

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Reply #5 on: May 16, 2007, 10:12:14 PM

The whole TF2 thing is looking very stylish and the flavour they're doing like 'Who touched Sasha' is great, but why should we be excited by a reskin of the exact same game I was playing in 1997?  Or is there some you-beaut changes I'm not aware of?  2forts is fun and all, but its been played to death already.
Semi-random maps and...that's about it AFAIK.
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Reply #6 on: May 17, 2007, 12:25:33 AM

Everytime they release new media for this, I wet my pants a little in glee.

And heresy it may be, some of us (me) never really played TF all that much. And even if I did... who cares. I'm a sucker for style. I've read about some changes made to the original, but I'm not really knowledgeable enough about it to comment on it.
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Reply #7 on: May 17, 2007, 01:43:25 AM

I never played TF.

There I said it.
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Reply #8 on: May 17, 2007, 01:57:23 AM

Also, its bundled with Episode 2 and Portal, WHICH YOU WOULD BUY ANYWAY. So you might as well enjoy the hype.

Complaining about this is like moaning about people looking forward to CS:Source.
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Reply #9 on: May 17, 2007, 06:03:48 AM

I wish more games were remade. They date too easily. It's not like film, where you can re-watch things from the 20's, 30's, 40's or whatever and enjoy them for the 12th time. Hell, most of my favorite movies are from the 40's and 70's.

Many of my favorite games are quite old, but there's no way in hell I'd revist them. Especially 3D ones.
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Reply #10 on: May 17, 2007, 07:38:31 AM

Not to mention UI standards updates and improvements over time. When my new computer was down during my RMA, I tried playing Vice City and kept thinking how much better San Andreas was, simply because of the control scheme. In Vice City, the on-foot action never worked well with my gamepad and I was always using teh keyboard. In San Andreas, I playing 99% of the game on the gamepad. Seeing Vice City done in the SA engine would be cool (or better yet, in the GTA4 engine).

Or a high-res widescreen version of Planescape: Torment.
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Reply #11 on: May 17, 2007, 11:08:25 AM

I was thinking those exact sentiments.  I would be in heaven if they'd remake some of the late 90's games into PSP or handhelds.

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Reply #12 on: May 17, 2007, 02:09:59 PM

That was cool. I only played a little of the Half-Life version of TF and it was fun. A new, style-heavy version in the Source engine? Hell yeah, I'd hit that.

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Reply #13 on: May 17, 2007, 09:31:08 PM

It certainly oozes style. If that'll translate visually when everyone is conc jumping around like rabbits on speed is another matter.

HL2:Ep 2 looks to be a damn good purchase anymore. Too bad it takes Valve practically a year to make new episodes.

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Reply #14 on: May 17, 2007, 09:46:06 PM

I never played TF.

There I said it.

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Reply #15 on: May 17, 2007, 10:25:50 PM

I never played TF.

There I said it.

We're going to need some matches and steel wool.

Dude, just call the Pyro.
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Reply #16 on: May 18, 2007, 06:00:08 AM

It certainly oozes style. If that'll translate visually when everyone is conc jumping around like rabbits on speed is another matter.
conc = concussion grenades?

Believe it or not, they designed those out. The Demoman is the only one with explosives, though the Soldier can still rocket jump, and the Scout has a crazy moon-boot double jump.

Instead of making everybody a jack-of-all-trades, the design for TF2 focused on enhancing the individual schticks.

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Reply #17 on: May 18, 2007, 09:52:46 AM

It certainly oozes style. If that'll translate visually when everyone is conc jumping around like rabbits on speed is another matter.
conc = concussion grenades?

Believe it or not, they designed those out. The Demoman is the only one with explosives, though the Soldier can still rocket jump, and the Scout has a crazy moon-boot double jump.

Instead of making everybody a jack-of-all-trades, the design for TF2 focused on enhancing the individual schticks.

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Reply #18 on: May 18, 2007, 12:25:00 PM

TF's big strength was always class specialization.  I won't shed too many tears for the loss of generic grenades if it makes the Demoman that much cooler.

I will be sad if they don't have cool stuff like the gas, nail, and EMP grenades, though.  Those were just all kinds of fun.  Nothing like sneaking into a base disguised as a sniper and then fumigating the place with LSD.
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Reply #19 on: May 18, 2007, 04:00:59 PM

I played a lot of TFC back in the day. A LOT.

Honestly, I'm glad to see conc jumping get the boot. I always thought it was a cheap tactic anyway. I don't like rocket jumping either.


I'm actually hoping you'll once again have to "charge" your sniper shots. It really rewarded the patient sniper, instead of someone who would try to spam shots.


I just can't wait to don a sniper suit, backstab some dumb snipers and engineers, and gas the hell out of the spawn areas.  evil

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Reply #20 on: May 18, 2007, 05:57:23 PM

Wow, I'm surprised by all these people who didn't play much TF back in the 90s.  Oh well, I'll probably end up getting it if its part of Ep2 and I'm short of stuff to do...
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Reply #21 on: May 18, 2007, 10:57:59 PM

Wow, I'm surprised by all these people who didn't play much TF back in the 90s.  Oh well, I'll probably end up getting it if its part of Ep2 and I'm short of stuff to do...

Yo. QWTF all the way. I tried TFC a few times and it always seemed like a pale imitation to me.

If they don't have a faithful 2fort4 adaptation, someone's gonna wake up with a horse head in their bed. Well6 and 2tech3 would be nice too.
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Reply #22 on: May 19, 2007, 12:50:51 AM

Looks spiffy... and it comes with HL2 Ep2, you say?

It appears that I will also be hitting that. - Guess I will need to pick up HL2 Ep1 as well... how's that Valve billing CC number security thing going these days?


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Reply #23 on: May 19, 2007, 01:08:28 AM

It looks fantastic, makes me sad that I'm boycotting Valve for being big enough asshats to patch in-game ads into their older products without an opt-out.  I won't support any company that forces in-game ads on the players (unless the game is free, then it's reasonable), just like I won't support a company that puts Starforce on the games.  The only way to make them stop is to not give them money.
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Reply #24 on: May 19, 2007, 02:49:32 AM

Wow, I'm surprised by all these people who didn't play much TF back in the 90s.  Oh well, I'll probably end up getting it if its part of Ep2 and I'm short of stuff to do...

I think I was busy playing CS at the time, either that or UO, both those games blanked out a lot of time back in the 90s and early 2000s.
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Reply #25 on: May 19, 2007, 02:58:55 AM

Those are not excuses.

TF was my first online addicction.  I played more TF and TWCTF than I have almost any other game to date.  To say I'm excited for TF2 would be a massive fucking understatement.  I'm debating taking an entire week off to play shortly after release.

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Reply #26 on: May 19, 2007, 08:35:29 AM

Looks nice, too bad it will be bundled with steam and adds so I won't be touching it.
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Reply #27 on: May 19, 2007, 08:41:21 AM

Ads? Crap. I agree.
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Reply #28 on: May 19, 2007, 10:55:02 AM

Looks nice, too bad it will be bundled with steam and adds so I won't be touching it.
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Reply #29 on: May 19, 2007, 10:56:33 AM

Looks nice, too bad it will be bundled with steam and adds so I won't be touching it.
There's still people like you left? How...quaint.

Lots, actually.

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Reply #30 on: May 19, 2007, 11:34:25 AM

Looks spiffy... and it comes with HL2 Ep2, you say?

It appears that I will also be hitting that. - Guess I will need to pick up HL2 Ep1 as well... how's that Valve billing CC number security thing going these days?
As far as I know general customers weren't in the pool of people who had their numbers accessed. It was an internal web that was dedicated to Cybercafes.

Episode One was decent. A little too short for my tastes and too heavy on the use of odd gameplay gimmicks (directing Alyx with the flashlight. I would've liked it more had it just been something you used on and off as you progressed (dark/light areas, frequent changes between each) but you spend long stretches standing in place pointing at stuff.

Looks nice, too bad it will be bundled with steam and adds so I won't be touching it.
As far as I know the ads are only in CS. I could be wrong though. And steam is about the least offensive online delivery system I've seen yet.

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Reply #31 on: May 19, 2007, 06:31:09 PM

Any multiplayer game I've ever played with a Spy class and/or snipers was always 90% Spies/snipers on pubs (and in TF, it was spies disguised as snipers  rolleyes).  The allure of covert ops and backstabbing is very strong, apparently. 

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Reply #32 on: May 19, 2007, 06:38:36 PM

Naw, I saw plenty of conc-jumping Medics, rocket-jumping soldiers, and newb HWs back when I played heavily. Plenty of engineers as well.

Also, most snipers and spies on public servers were big nubs.

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Reply #33 on: May 19, 2007, 08:13:07 PM

Wow, I'm surprised by all these people who didn't play much TF back in the 90s.  Oh well, I'll probably end up getting it if its part of Ep2 and I'm short of stuff to do...

It seemed like Counterstrike sucked everyone in when it came out.
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Reply #34 on: May 19, 2007, 08:52:53 PM

So is this game actually ever going to come out or are they just jerking our chains by practicing their teaser trailer skillz?

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