Torchlight II (not the MMO)

[murdoc]

I couldn't get into T2 at all because I found the world so bland.

I have no idea how anyone could find TL2 'bland'.

[Merusk]

Needs more blood and pointless skulls and halfnaked chick and monsters with boobs!

[Ironwood]

Fuck me, I've just had a wee glance at PoE and that talent tree.

Wheee.  That talent tree.  Because what I really need is a second job.

[Slayerik]

PoE takes bland and grey to a new level.

I would have given it more of a chance, but the fiancee couldn't stomach the inventory system after being spoiled with TL2. She is OCD about picking up and selling whites and shit. And PoE's inventory does kinda suck.

TL2 just seems more fun. Maybe I'm just not the gamer I used to be...

[Lantyssa]

I'm okay with PoE's inventory (yeah, it could be better...) because they give me four pages of real stash.

[Hoax]

PoE takes bland and grey to a new level.

I would have given it more of a chance, but the fiancee couldn't stomach the inventory system after being spoiled with TL2. She is OCD about picking up and selling whites and shit. And PoE's inventory does kinda suck.

TL2 just seems more fun. Maybe I'm just not the gamer I used to be...

Its not fun because standing in a corner shift clicking would feel the same as hitting mobs does with most weapons/attacks/skills. Its a very "floaty" for lack of a better term game and that makes it pretty shit.

But I think once art direction and offline mode become the complaints I've proven my point. TL2 most popular ARPG in old folks homes with no internet. Good for them I guess.

[Tebonas]

Its simply the most distinguishing feature that immediately springs to mind.

But choice is a good thing, so good for everyone that there are both Torchlight 2 and Path of Exile for interested parties.

[Job601]

Diablo 3 is still my favorite of these games because it gets the fundamental mechanics of using skills and fighting monsters right.  I do think the loot in PoE is better in some ways.  I'm not sure what Torchlight 2 has to offer -- it might have the best level design in terms of compromising randomness and aesthetics.

[Malakili]

Diablo 3 is still my favorite of these games because it gets the fundamental mechanics of using skills and fighting monsters right.  I do think the loot in PoE is better in some ways.  I'm not sure what Torchlight 2 has to offer -- it might have the best level design in terms of compromising randomness and aesthetics.

This basically sums up my feelings.  Path of Exile has the most interesting character building and loot (which are combined to a degree).  But actually playing Diablo feels snappy and responsive and has that level of polish in terms of actual gameplay that I really like, and which blizzard tends to do better than almost anyone (including WoW and Starcraft 2).  Torchlight II is solid, but doesn't do anything "the best" in my opinion.   Offline is nice, but in practice this isn't a feature I care a lot about. 

[Musashi]

Every time this thread is bumped I read more discussion about which one of these games is better, or whatever.  It reminds me of days of yore when I was forced to reinstall Diablo 2 every six months because there wasn't anything else in this genre worth playing.  And then I think:  First World Problems.

[Ironwood]

You want us to chat about how our radiotherapy is going and if we think we're going to lose a lung or manage to pull through ?

'Cause I'd rather talk about Torchlight 2 and how much better it is than Diablo 3.   

[Lantyssa]

Yeah.  I talk about the games 'cause discussing my dad would be one hell of a downer.

PoE > TL2 >>> D3

To be fair, I haven't played D3, but nothing I've heard makes me curious about it.  PoE feels like the illegitimate child of D1 and D2, which is all I really need.

[Fabricated]

PoE is pure sperg-bait and renders D3 pointless IMO. I know, it "feels" better DBZ punching hordes of enemies in D3 as a monk and watching the corpses fly end over end through the air in waves but that is literally the only redeeming feature of the game left.

I think TL2 fills a niche.

-PoE is what people really wanted from D3, being pure spergbait with build-defining uniques and just allowing wacky builds in general. Plus the grimdark stuff.

-TL2 is lighter fare, much more plentiful loot that while less interesting than PoE is still far more interesting than D3's, offline play, LANplay, and moddability which neither D3 nor PoE has. Also I think TL2 does the best job at randomizing areas; PoE is pretty good at that though.

-D3 has the most crazy, brainless visceral combat where you sometimes feel so bad ass, this alone can almost carry the game. Unfortunately there's the rest of the game being really bad.

Plenty of room I think for everyone. PoE has become my ARPG for basically having a "Goal" which is to get my build fleshed out enough to see if it holds up to tougher content, and to get loot that supports it (and I don't browse wikis looking for uniques so I can be surprised when I find them!). PoE is depressing/frustrating however when your rolls come up bad and you waste a few orbs.

TL2 is when I wanna log in and mash tons of stuff and satisfy my loot OCD since upgrades come super frequently and it's fun to twink out new characters. Outside of a few pretty set areas TL2 is random enough it doesn't get stale as quickly.

I don't have D3 installed anymore but I have to say when I hit seven-sided strike as my monk and obliterated a group of mobs or a champ, and when my characters taunted after getting a great crit and literally fucking exploded everything it felt pretty good. Again, shame about the rest of the game.

[Bunk]

TL II is my current go to game for wasting 15 minutes if I happen to be near the computer. If PoE does a better job with unique builds and such though, I'll probably give a try.

My 25th level Engineer in TL II right now is um, a guy who uses weapon and shield, and shield bashes and stomps and swings and zaps and other stuff and has a bunch of passives and stuff. I put almost no thought in to how I built it and have skill points spread through about 15 skills. I was shocked last night when a fight actually required me to down a health potion. Maybe it gets hard later, or maybe I'm out leveling content, but right now I'm running around with 61 big health potions, and not picking any more up.

D3 is an icon on my desk top that I pause to stare at on occasion.

[murdoc]

The one thing about D3 I did like was that when you hit something, it felt like you really HIT something.

TL2 is my go to game right now too - running hardcore with friends is both frustrating and crazy fun. It's an easy game to just pick up and mash my mouse button with buddies while we make fun of each other for a couple of hours. I tried PoE and just couldn't get into it for whatever reason.

[Ingmar]

There's pretty much nothing I like better about TL2 than D3, except I do occasionally get a little lag in always-online D3 land, and the pet is convenient, just as it was in TL1. Not even going to try PoE - ugly, no full respecs, free for all looting. It isn't for me.

[Musashi]

You want us to chat about how our radiotherapy is going and if we think we're going to lose a lung or manage to pull through ?

'Cause I'd rather talk about Torchlight 2 and how much better it is than Diablo 3.   

OMG! Don't Die!  You're my favorite!

[Ironwood]

Um, thanks.

Can't love life too much.   

[apocrypha]

Has anyone tried SynergiesMOD?

I got bored of TL2 fairly quickly but I just read an article about that mod on Eurogamer and it sounded very impressive.

[Malakili]

GUTS is finally out, and integrated with the Steam Workshop!

[Fabricated]

I completely derped out and forgot about Steam Workshop as a possibility since Runic distributes the game in a few different ways. That's what made GUTS take so long to come out.

Yay- hopefully the modkit is good. With steam workshop taking the trouble out of managing/finding mods we'll hopefully see some really cool stuff.

[slyborg]

Has anyone tried SynergiesMOD?

I got bored of TL2 fairly quickly but I just read an article about that mod on Eurogamer and it sounded very impressive.

I tried Synergies over the weekend. I liked it quite a bit. LOTS of baddies,tweaked but not overpowered skills,a few new classes (still WIPs on those). Just waiting for it to show up on the Workshop now...

[koro]

Heh, there's a red panda skin for the new panda pet already. 

[Segoris]

I tried Synergies over the weekend. I liked it quite a bit. LOTS of baddies,tweaked but not overpowered skills,a few new classes (still WIPs on those). Just waiting for it to show up on the Workshop now...

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197975093066/myworkshopfiles/?200710

[koro]

Yeah, it's been getting multiple daily updates too.