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Merusk
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Reply #35 on: January 25, 2012, 09:58:20 AM

The picture prompted the investigation, though.. which would be fruit of the poisoned vine, wouldn't it?  IANAL though so /shrug.

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Reply #36 on: January 25, 2012, 10:58:16 AM

Yes, but the picture is of a massive river of meat blood that is out in the open. I'm going with no issue to "eventual discovery" if there's an issue raised.

I traded in my fun blog for several legal blogs. Or, "blawgs," as the cutesy attorney blawgosphere likes to call 'em.
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Reply #37 on: January 25, 2012, 11:42:55 AM

Doesn't the fact that it was a private citizen flying a private vehicle over unrestricted airspace discovering and then reporting it make it not illegaly obtained? Otherwise I'd be able to build a big privacy fence around my backyard and grow weed and poppy with immunity until the police stumble upon it for some other reason. Or a burglar breaking into a house and finding a rape room and pile of trophy skulls would be probable cause to search the house, right?

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Reply #38 on: January 25, 2012, 12:15:32 PM

The second half of my post was actually about regulation and oversight, but I took that out lest we tread directly into politics, Do Not Pass Go.

Because we should just shoot modern anarchists right in the face.
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Reply #39 on: January 25, 2012, 06:30:05 PM

Doesn't the fact that it was a private citizen flying a private vehicle over unrestricted airspace discovering and then reporting it make it not illegaly obtained? Otherwise I'd be able to build a big privacy fence around my backyard and grow weed and poppy with immunity until the police stumble upon it for some other reason. Or a burglar breaking into a house and finding a rape room and pile of trophy skulls would be probable cause to search the house, right?
Most of my rudimentary understanding of the law is that when an individual not acting as an agent of law enforcement finds something like the examples given, it isn't "fruit of the poisoned vine" as said.  They are free to be a good citizen and report it or ignore it.  Same as if a neighbor hears or sees something suspicious from the house down the road and reports it to the police, leading to a burglar being apprehended.
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Reply #40 on: January 25, 2012, 08:53:30 PM

The problem is trespass and what constitutes that and violation of privacy.  The photo in question was taken with a drone flying over private property, not an aircraft.  Can I get an RC copter and play snoop?  Are the photos paparazzi take from trees and cranes outside someone's place valid, or an invasion of privacy?  Is it only /not/ an invasion when you suspect something?  What determines reasonable suspicion?  If think I hear noises can I use a heat camera to look inside your house?  Are these things you want to allow vigilante groups to do when police aren't allowed?

Ah, the wonders of the technology age.

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Reply #41 on: January 25, 2012, 09:16:38 PM

Thermal imaging cameras can't see through insulated walls.
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Reply #42 on: January 26, 2012, 05:02:44 AM

Shouldn't all walls be insulated anyway, in regards of not going broke on heating and air conditioning?
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Reply #43 on: January 26, 2012, 05:06:58 AM

 awesome, for real

Also, cabled for internet.  With an internal hoover.  And underfloor heating.

AND A TELEPATHIC USER INTERFACE !!!

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Reply #44 on: January 26, 2012, 05:45:23 AM

I love how you use a gimmick account to show how we fail to live up to our ideal world.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #45 on: January 26, 2012, 06:03:11 AM

I know.  He's the optimistic side.

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Reply #46 on: January 26, 2012, 06:09:03 AM

Its not easy to be the Jekyll to Ironwoods Hyde, but nobody else wanted the job.  awesome, for real
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Reply #47 on: January 27, 2012, 10:54:22 AM

One of the links hints at the legality, specifically mentioning being below 400 feet.  I can't pursue the details right now but I suggest reading more on that toy-plane-dork site.

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