Wireless Network Issues

[RhyssaFireheart]

Use wax paper, a comb and flashlight to simluate a ghost.

Pretend the building is haunted, driving out all the other tenants.

Enjoy your interference-free wireless.

PS: Watch out for meddling kids.

No no, soak a sheet in moth pheromones, and throw it over some moths, who will fly around and simulate a ghost.

You know, I'd be pretty scared of any group of moths that could fly with a sheet over them, too.  Not sure it would help any wireless router settings though.

[Johny Cee]

Use wax paper, a comb and flashlight to simluate a ghost.

Pretend the building is haunted, driving out all the other tenants.

Enjoy your interference-free wireless.

PS: Watch out for meddling kids.

No no, soak a sheet in moth pheromones, and throw it over some moths, who will fly around and simulate a ghost.

Personally, I'd go with a ghost Miner 49er costume or a Red Baron costume with spring-loaded boots.

[Nightshade]

Hey, I hate to bump an old thread, but I thought you fine gentleman could help me out here with my noobie wireless questions.

My issue is that I built a computer with my friend Nix!   (Thanks again buddy, its running well), however, now I am stuck with an issue with my networking.   Unfortunately my parents house is a bit awkward in terms of networking, as in there is no cable routing to my room what so ever from the office where our shitty Bell Sympatico router is.

My first option was to try a wireless USB - but of course I got one that had a bad range on it, and now that I am reading more and more about them, they are not all that good to begin with.   Ideally I'd like to get a wired connection to my new desktop.

Now, I thought I could be clever and hook up a spare router we had downstairs to my own phone line with a splitter and all would be well.   (Our net is through the phone line with Bell).   When it didn't work I called up tech support, apparently they ID the routers, and you can only use one per their policy, so that apparently isn't an option.   Is there a way around this?   Could I simply get another router that isn't from Bell and connect it and be on my merry way?

Appreciate any insight or suggestions.   My only other thought is to manually wire an ethernet cable from my room to the office, and I believe that will be a heck of a challenge.

[Chimpy]

You would need a second phone line to add a second DSL modem as the technology requires a dedicated pair back to the C.O.

[Nightshade]

Ahh, so my only real option is to run the cable then I guess...? 

[Evil Elvis]

You could get some powerline adapters.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/164241/better_together_wifi_and_powerline_networking.html

[Lantyssa]

Wired is better.  Do the work to run one cable and be happy in the long run.

Or move the current router closer to you and let the parental units suffer.  They're old, what do they need technology for anyways?

[Sheepherder]

Don't buy cable at Wal-Mart or Radio Shack or whateverthefuck.  Get Nix to make you some, I have a feeling he knows how.

[Sky]

This has been working great for me:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045

[Hammond]

Just run a cable you will be far happier.  You can run the cable yourself and get Niix to terminate the ends (if he knows how and has the tools).  Depending on your house you should be able to run cable in the crawl space or in the attic.  For a simple setup drilling a hole in a floorboard to the crawlspace is fairly painless.  Buy cable from Home Depot, Lowes or if you have it a wholesaler like Platt.  Just make sure you know what you are buying if you go to a wholesaler.  If you buy just the cable / ends its not that expensive.

[Cheddar]

Don't buy cable at Wal-Mart or Radio Shack or whateverthefuck.  Get Nix to make you some, I have a feeling he knows how.

Cannot stress this enough.  Or, buy your own shit at Home Depot/Lowes and figure it out.  Not rocket science.

[Sky]

I'm almost to the end of a 1000ft spool that has whites that are white, not color-striped whites.

I hate this spool.

[Selby]

I had one of those spools at work once.  I think a coworker and I ended up making it disappear due to how annoying it was.

Regarding wireless networking problems, I use the powerline adapters and can play online games with complete success and no Wi-Fi interference issues that I used to have before.  Cheap and effective, same as wiring up the house with ethernet cable.

[Nightshade]

Well, if anyone is interested, I ended up going with another option since I tried to half-assed feed my network cable through my vent, which only ended up in pain and frustration.  I ended up going with a D-Link Power over Ethernet adapter.  I read mixed things about it, pending on how your house is wired sometimes the connection can be a little faulty, luckily it seems that it is in a good series in my house design - from where my office is downstairs to my room.  I am getting a perfect 1 GBPS net speed  and no networking issues thus far! 

I was a little sceptical because the module itself was about $100 which was a bit of an investment for a networking option, but it beat getting in a guy to do installation!

[Chimpy]

Power over Ethernet is the wrong term. I think you mean power line networking. PoE is for sending power to things like access points over Ethernet wiring.

[Selby]

I ended up going with a D-Link Power over Ethernet adapter.

Glad my suggestion helped ;-)

The only issue I've had with mine is they don't like running through surge protectors.  For some reason they don't work reliably when I had them set up that way.  Put them on the outlet itself and all was right with the world.

[Sheepherder]

The only issue I've had with mine is they don't like running through surge protectors.  For some reason they don't work reliably when I had them set up that way.

Because they're not voodoo.  In order to carry a signal they have to do something at one end that's measurable at the other end, which would be a modulation in voltage.

[Selby]

Because they're not voodoo.  In order to carry a signal they have to do something at one end that's measurable at the other end, which would be a modulation in voltage.

Why thank you, I know that.  I just found it amusing after reading several people having no issue with it and having no problem with extension cords =P

[Trippy]

Many surge protectors will filter out "noise" in the power signal which will wreck the networking signal being sent through the power line. Extension cords typically don't filter so those may work where a filtering surge protector will not.

[Sheepherder]

Most surge protectors will filter noise to some degree, it's just a matter of sensitivity.

Keep those surge protectors around, maybe hook them up to your oscilloscope (you have one, right?).  If they were killing the little electronic noise that a device like that would make they're probably top-notch shit...  Or they were utter ass and put out enough of their own noise to completely overwhelm any signal and should immediately be thrown out.  It could go either way!

Also, if you're getting really good data rates you can probably assume the power coming into your house is very clean, which is nice to know.