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Reply #35 on: June 17, 2009, 01:29:22 PM

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Reply #36 on: June 17, 2009, 02:06:58 PM

They have evolved beyond the concept of profit.
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Reply #37 on: June 17, 2009, 06:54:14 PM

I love casinos. I would sell a kidney to have a good cardroom >5 minutes from my house. I don't play anything but poker unless I am in Vegas grinding out player points, but I don't begrudge the folks who subsidize all my cheap food and booze by playing games with a large house advantage. I would love to have a large non-Indian casino nearby so I could gamble in a smokeless paradise.

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Reply #38 on: June 17, 2009, 07:15:49 PM

Facepalm yeah I forgot it's American-Indian owned which translates to no tax dollars, durrrrrrr.  

I think you would be surprised at the amount of taxes paid by Casino customers.  Someone wins a taxable sized jackpot then loses the majority of it back to the house for the next schmuck to come along and win/lose it.  Most people don't keep a gaming journal tracking winnings and losses and as such end up paying tax on money that they lost back to the house.  In theory it being an Indian casino should not effect that process at all.
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Reply #39 on: June 19, 2009, 10:31:12 PM

Little late to this thread, but..

I grew up in Montville CT, where they built Mohegan Sun, and I still live in the area (Albeit a few towns directly away from the casino now).  So far, I've yet to see something good come out of it.

The turnover rate is so ridiculous, due to the fact that there are minimal labor laws they are required to abide by, that the migratory workers who come here for jobs end up as nothing more than a drain on the economy.  We're still keeping right up with the national average here on unemployment.  The property values have tanked ridiculously in the areas around the casino, a lot of the housing developments within walking distance are now residences for 10-15 casino workers that they jam in like sardines.  A close friend of mine watched his propery value decline by over 85% within the first 3 years of the casino being there.

It's extremely taxing on the local towns, traffic cops are paid for by the towns around it, not the casino, much like the traffic concerns that have already been mentioned.  The local bars and restaurants (At least in CT) are at such a ridiculous disadvantage, that most of them have folded or gone under.  You can smoke in the casino, and in the bars in the casino, while it's illegal at every other restaurant/bar in the entire state, and that makes a huge difference to a bar owner.

The casinos contribute a lot of tax revenue, it's a fixed percentage of their slot revenue (I believe 25%) but like any other tax, the government pisses it away, and you can't really see any of the benefit after a few years go by.  We still have a huge financial shortage in our state and the towns, they just blow the money on stupid self-interest group crap.

They do bring a lot of entertainers to the area, the only problem is, those tickets go to the gamblers, not so much the general public.  I tried to get Fleetwood Mac tickets last week for my gf's birthday.  $125 and $250 per seat.  Simon and Garfunkel were over $250 for cheap seats if I remember right, and the rates at the hotels are close to the same, $300 or so per night, and that's if you can get a room.

The casino's have this ingenious method of bringing in new workers, they actually import them from other countries.  We see a gigantic influx of Polish speaking people who are hired into jobs with the casino's for a few months,  the casino pays their airfare and deducts it from their pay,  and then naturally, never leave when the work visa expires.  You'd think with 9.5%+ unemployment rates, they'd be able to hire from the local population.

The real kicker for the Mohegans is that they're currently only using 240 acres for the entire facility.  Their federal recognition allows them to claim up to 700 acres as "Reservation".

Needless to say, I'm not a fan.
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Reply #40 on: June 22, 2009, 06:21:00 PM

^^^  Are you a Fair Oaks alumni too?

But the reasons the 2 casinos have to import people is that they have gone through almost all the locals who are willing to work there.
Plus the hours suck shit.  I don't know how I keep doing it.  Probably because I live close by and the pay is good.

People simply don't like working odd hours.  Casino hours are terrible, and you WILL work weekends and holidays.
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Reply #41 on: June 23, 2009, 10:50:39 AM

People simply don't like working odd hours.

The prime shift in Vegas is 8:00pm to 4:00am over the weekend.  That is peak customer numbers and hence tips.
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