Hellboy 2

[stray]

I hope there wasn't already a thread? Didn't see one.

This was quite good. Funnier than the last one. Costumes and makeup really deserve an award.


Holy shit, I'm gay for Elves too. That guy rocked.

[Velorath]

I hope there wasn't already a thread? Didn't see one.

This was quite good. Funnier than the last one. Costumes and makeup really deserve an award.


Holy shit, I'm gay for Elves too. That guy rocked.

I really enjoyed it even though it felt more like Guillermo del Toro's Hellboy, rather than Mignola's Hellboy.

[stray]

Guillermo del Toro's Hellboy

Symbolically expressed through Hellboy keeping a locker full of Tecaté Light. Haha

[Broughden]

I loved it. I loved the Tree God thing in the city. We need IRL Tree Gods. (or was it called a Forest God?)

[apocrypha]

Breaking with the flow here but I wasn't that impressed with it. The CGI was too much and all too obviously CGI, I thought the styles and sets felt like recycled stuff from his last few films and I thought the pacing and storytelling was leaden and disjointed. BIG disclaimer though: we watched a downloaded version round a friends house and it suffered greatly from the poor quality. I'll re-rate it when I get a chance to watch it in much better qual. :)

Luke Goss as Nuada though was awesome. Didn't even realise it was him until the credits and me & my gf both went "Huh?! Luke Goss? Cool!" 

[stray]

I saw it on blu-ray.. looks excellent imho.


I don't think I've seen Luke Goss before. I almost wanted to think it was some secret Tom Cruise cameo a la Tropic Thunder 


He looked like the dead Lestat (err. the "deader" Lestat, I mean  ).




Definitely a cool character though. Del Toro should make a D&D movie.

[Merusk]

I'm glad to hear the movie was as good as it looked. I thought the whole thing looked like a Brom paining come to life and was hoping it wasn't just the trailer. Now to bump it up on the Netflix queue.

[Cadaverine]

I don't think I've seen Luke Goss before. I almost wanted to think it was some secret Tom Cruise cameo a la Tropic Thunder 

Goss played Nomak in Blade II.

[stray]

Still haven't seen but bits and pieces of the Blade movies. Been meaning to get around to them...

[Evildrider]

Still haven't seen but bits and pieces of the Blade movies. Been meaning to get around to them...

I liked 1 and 2.. 3 is supposed to be the worst of them, but I still found it worth watching.  Ryan Reynolds was great in it.

[Megrim]

Hm. There was something about Hellboy 2 that bothered me throughout the entire movie, and i couldn't quite pin it. It just didn't work right. I think they didn't spend enough time on the villain and too much time on the 8957392569 schlocky love-plots. Which was a real shame, because i really, really appreciated that guy. Also, the fact that his main argument was 'humans have messed everything up, get rid of them'. which, tbh is a perfectly valid argument. The good guys on the other hand were all like 'we'll kill you because you're eeeeeeeeeeeviiiil!!!1'. Needless to say, i was rooting for the bad guy.

[Morat20]

Still haven't seen but bits and pieces of the Blade movies. Been meaning to get around to them...

I liked 1 and 2.. 3 is supposed to be the worst of them, but I still found it worth watching.  Ryan Reynolds was great in it.

I watched 3 for Ryan Reynolds -- his best line was ad-libbed (the one about blinking more), and my wife watched for Parker Posey.

[Broughden]

Definitely a cool character though. Del Toro should make a D&D movie.

THIS!!!! ^^^ Yes yes yes yes yes! It would be genious!

Also, the fact that his main argument was 'humans have messed everything up, get rid of them'. which, tbh is a perfectly valid argument. The good guys on the other hand were all like 'we'll kill you because you're eeeeeeeeeeeviiiil!!!1'. Needless to say, i was rooting for the bad guy.

Fee free to join me in the politics forum sometime. ^ This is how I normally feel.
Long live the forest god!

[Morfiend]

I enjoyed it.

I would almost like a movie just about the secret world. Just take the whole Hellboy part out, and it would be a fantastic movie.

[UnSub]

Even in comics, Hellboy is best when fighting things. "Hellboy 2" had too much where he talked, or just looked dorkish.

The saving the baby bit was so ordinary too.

I'll get this movie at some point, but probably from a deep discount bin.

[Xerapis]

Well, I liked it overall, but thought the ending was a little predictable.

Loved the Forest God...but I TRULY LOVED the Troll Market. Watching them walk around and fight in it, I totally wanted it put into a game so I could run around and explore every nook and cranny.

[stray]

I don't know.. I thought the ending was good. The Elf dude wasn't made out to be so bad afterall. He fought out of sheer determination, knowing that he was right somehow, and that Hellboy was sort of selling out, merely beholden to duty. He had that one last heart-to-heart with Hellboy about humans being destructive, and then he perished. And you felt bad for him.

[WindupAtheist]

Necro'd!

I finally got around to catching this on video, and I liked it a lot. Glad I'm not the only one who got Tom Cruise Lestat vibes off Nuada. My only real complaint: The very moment he and his sister bleed at the same time, revealing their link, I turned to my brother (who has seen it before) and said "She sacrificies herself to kill him, doesn't she?" Totally predictable, that bit.

Still more worth seeing than 99% of everything out there, and probably my favorite set of comic book flicks. I'll take either Hellboy over any Spider-Man, for example, apologies to Sam Raimi.

[ahoythematey]

I saw this for the first time not too long ago, and I thought it was awesome, much better than the first.  I suppose it helps that I'm a sucker for well-done art direction.

[ghost]

Saw this tonight.  It was pretty goddamn good, if you haven't seen it yet.  You can definitely see the del Toro touches on things.  Think Pan's Labyrinth imagery, but with a more fun story.  Highly recommend.

[Broughden]

Saw this tonight.  It was pretty goddamn good, if you haven't seen it yet.  You can definitely see the del Toro touches on things.  Think Pan's Labyrinth imagery, but with a more fun story.  Highly recommend.

I thought it was a pretty sad story though. 

[Margalis]

I finally got around to catching this on video, and I liked it a lot. Glad I'm not the only one who got Tom Cruise Lestat vibes off Nuada. My only real complaint: The very moment he and his sister bleed at the same time, revealing their link, I turned to my brother (who has seen it before) and said "She sacrificies herself to kill him, doesn't she?" Totally predictable, that bit.

Yeah that was incredibly obvious. The other part I didn't part care for was the drama between Hellboy and Selma Blair. It felt like they were trying to continue the story from the first movie but it came off as extraneous to this one.

[schild]

I don't give a crap what Del Toro is forced to make (though I liked Hellboy 2), because of this:

With regard to At the Mountains of Madness, I'd love to see you tackle H.P. Lovecraft in a way that hasn't been done.

Del Toro: Me too. Me too. ... Part of the arrangement with Universal--in being essentially there for now until 2017--part of the arrangement was they would finance research and development for Mountains of Madness. And we are doing it. There are many technical tools in creating the monsters that don't exist, and we need to develop them. The creatures, Lovecraft's creatures, the tools that exist for CG and the materials that exist for makeup effects, you need to push them to get there and we're going to push them.

Yes, he is making At the Mountains of Madness.

All of his other work, imo, is just leading up to this.

[ghost]

Very interesting.  I thought I read somewhere that he had written the screenplay. 

[schild]

They're probably done building the sets by now actually.

[Koyasha]

Hm. There was something about Hellboy 2 that bothered me throughout the entire movie, and i couldn't quite pin it. It just didn't work right. I think they didn't spend enough time on the villain and too much time on the 8957392569 schlocky love-plots. Which was a real shame, because i really, really appreciated that guy. Also, the fact that his main argument was 'humans have messed everything up, get rid of them'. which, tbh is a perfectly valid argument. The good guys on the other hand were all like 'we'll kill you because you're eeeeeeeeeeeviiiil!!!1'. Needless to say, i was rooting for the bad guy.

I had pretty much this exact issue with the movie myself.  It was good, but it never really felt like any of the characters were thinking things through, so the story felt pretty weak.  And of course it fell into the typical 'we have in our possession a dangerous artifact that we have no reason to ever desire intact, but we're not destroying it because....?' story trap.  The excessive and gratuitous love plot angst was annoying at times, too.  And the self-sacrifice at the ending seemed not only obvious but incredibly stupid too, since Hellboy had already won.  Nuada was going to stick him with a little dagger - and he was already turning to meet the attack - and she thought it was necessary to sacrifice herself?  It felt underwhelming.

As to the Mountains of Madness, that sounds great...until I realize they're probably going to throw in a gratuitous and totally unnecessary romance plot, and change the entire tone of the ending - at least.  Still, it will be nice to see some of the visuals, especially from Del Toro, who seems to have a style that will fit that pretty well.

[ghost]

They're probably done building the sets by now actually.

You don't think it will be put on hold until after the Hobbit?