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Ironwood
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Reply #35 on: March 10, 2011, 11:13:57 AM

 Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #36 on: March 10, 2011, 11:20:24 AM

Ohhhhh, I see.

Yeah yeah.  I'll shaddap now. 

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Reply #37 on: March 10, 2011, 11:31:28 AM

I think maybe Nebu was trying to get at something that also was gnawing at me. The whole thing is based on some assumptions that aren't explicitly stated. The whole system is predicated on non-compulsive or unenforceable participation. The mantra we hear (and which is true) is that it's very hard to foster kids when there's a bad home environment, or even just no home support in an otherwise ok environment. That's one of the biggest culprits in kids failing at education, and probably the biggest in lower income situations.

This.  

I'd also add that about 10% of American students will diligently use the resources at their disposal.  The other 90% are looking for ways to shortcut the system.  Then you have the issue of classroom disruption, administrative cockblocks, and assessment fiascos.  

Isnt tracked online video education a 'shortcut to the system' in itself?  Your argument seems to be a bit circular in this regard.  Also, when the classroom is effectively "clubified" how is it that there'd be MORE disruption, cockblocks, and assessment problems?

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Reply #38 on: March 10, 2011, 02:57:17 PM

Wow. He actually has a math tech tree. That's pretty cool.
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Reply #39 on: March 10, 2011, 02:58:36 PM

I ran out of BIO-E points before I got advanced calculus.  Time to grind some more.

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Reply #40 on: March 10, 2011, 05:34:51 PM

We need level up animations for completing a piece.
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Reply #41 on: March 10, 2011, 07:43:11 PM

Yeah I spent an hour last night grinding on math and actually realized how adding left to right in my head for larger numbers is done, versus the traditionally taught right to left. Im pretty sure that is an IRL level up.
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Reply #42 on: March 10, 2011, 09:58:45 PM

I wasn't that impressed. What the education system needs is an entirely different approach to interaction between teachers and students, and a different process of assessment. Rote learning made easier by technology does not bring that.
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Reply #43 on: March 10, 2011, 10:36:32 PM

I think it would depend on subject and teacher. I had absolutely shit horrid math teachers in high school. They would explain things one way one day, then correct themselves the next day. I'm still unsure what a negative squared is because they taught it one way, then tested it another. All it taught me was to ignore my math teachers. And quit taking math classes.

If I had had the ability to select classroom learning or take these videos and online tests, I damn well would have taken it online for math.

Putting the teacher into a mentor role where it's about social interaction and checking up on kids making sure mom isn't watching the videos and taking the tests for Johnny is awesome, the funnest time I had in math was seeing it in practical use. Going outside and measuring away from the building and using a surveying tool to determine the height of the school's smokestack and computing how tall it was was pretty cool.  (Then again, so was playing with scarlet fever and not realizing it until I completed all the bacteria tests - go A Streptococcus!)
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Reply #44 on: March 10, 2011, 11:26:31 PM

I think it would depend on subject and teacher. I had absolutely shit horrid math teachers in high school. They would explain things one way one day, then correct themselves the next day. I'm still unsure what a negative squared is because they taught it one way, then tested it another. All it taught me was to ignore my math teachers. And quit taking math classes.

You and I must have attended the same high school. 
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Reply #45 on: March 10, 2011, 11:44:24 PM

No that was WayAbvPar and myself.

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Reply #46 on: March 11, 2011, 01:45:27 AM

I'm still unsure what a negative squared is because they taught it one way, then tested it another.

-22  =  -2 x -2  =  4

-23  =  -2 x -2 x -2  =  4 x -2  =  -8

I'm absolutely not the guy to be teaching math, because I absolutely do not, and never had, the discipline to do the homework.
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Reply #47 on: March 11, 2011, 04:49:30 AM

On the other hand, you could watch a horrendous public speaker and twat attempting to whistle into the darkness with some horrific facts that ought to make sane people die a little inside.

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Reply #48 on: March 11, 2011, 06:52:15 AM

About 20 mins in, when the applause started I wondered how many of those people went out and had a Big Mac afterward.

It did make me realize it's time to start teaching my 12 year old to cook, though, as it's when I began to learn.

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Reply #49 on: March 11, 2011, 06:54:41 AM

Hes not wrong. I enjoyed his talk, however he does need to stand still.

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Reply #50 on: March 11, 2011, 08:26:20 AM

Hes not wrong. I enjoyed his talk, however he does need to stand still.

Salman Khan never stands still it seems (hasnt for years).  I await the new Chuck Norris references.

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Reply #51 on: March 11, 2011, 08:38:26 AM

Hes not wrong. I enjoyed his talk, however he does need to stand still.

Salman Khan never stands still it seems (hasnt for years).  I await the new Chuck Norris references.

I was referring to Jamie Oliver.

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