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Title: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: schild on May 08, 2006, 12:03:54 AM
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Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: MrHat on May 08, 2006, 12:09:20 AM
Does that mean that Blizzard is realeasing a Starcraft MMO?


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Strazos on May 08, 2006, 12:16:15 AM
So uh, what, all Alliance toons are uncut?


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Signe on May 08, 2006, 02:02:57 AM
That was a fun read!  I even enjoyed the God adverts!   :lol:


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: stray on May 08, 2006, 08:00:55 AM
Was telling someone about this the other day. Definitely one of the dirtiest moves in the entire book.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Viin on May 08, 2006, 01:12:01 PM
I'd want to do the same thing if my sister was raped, and then the rapist comes to my house and says 'Hey, I'm that guy that raped your sister. I think she's hot. You should force her to marry me. I'm a really nice guy, really!'. Ass, he got what he deserved.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Murgos on May 08, 2006, 01:28:01 PM
I'd want to do the same thing if my sister was raped, and then the rapist comes to my house and says 'Hey, I'm that guy that raped your sister. I think she's hot. You should force her to marry me. I'm a really nice guy, really!'. Ass, he got what he deserved.

Well they killed everyone in the town too.  The guy? Sure, I can see that; I'd have been right there with them.  Maybe even the Pop for not only condoning the behavior but also enabling it and not really giving a shit that his son is a fuckhead rapist - and also for convincing the town to get circumcized as a ploy for stealing cattle and womens and shit.  But the whole town and taking all the womens and stuff as thier own?

Ok, sure they were dishonest fucks and all but they might have gone a bit far there.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Litigator on May 08, 2006, 01:37:30 PM
I'd want to do the same thing if my sister was raped, and then the rapist comes to my house and says 'Hey, I'm that guy that raped your sister. I think she's hot. You should force her to marry me. I'm a really nice guy, really!'. Ass, he got what he deserved.

Well they killed everyone in the town too.  The guy? Sure, I can see that; I'd have been right there with them.  Maybe even the Pop for not only condoning the behavior but also enabling it and not really giving a shit that his son is a fuckhead rapist - and also for convincing the town to get circumcized as a ploy for stealing cattle and womens and shit.  But the whole town and taking all the womens and stuff as thier own?

Ok, sure they were dishonest fucks and all but they might have gone a bit far there.

That's the way they rolled back in the day. It was the common course of warfare when sacking a city to kill the men and carry off the women as slaves. The cost of imperialism is much lower if you don't have continually pacify the conquered people. Back then, they just did it once, but really, really good. If you kill all the men in a town and rape all the women, twenty years later, all the men there are your countrymen, and you only really need to occupy them for like 15 minutes.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: WindupAtheist on May 08, 2006, 02:25:13 PM
If you kill all the men in a town and rape all the women, twenty years later, all the men there are your countrymen, and you only really need to occupy them for like 15 minutes.

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Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Murgos on May 08, 2006, 02:30:18 PM
I wonder what military enlistment numbers would look like if it was announced that the Pentagon was establishing Rape & Pillage as the active doctrine for occupation?


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: stray on May 08, 2006, 02:31:32 PM
Probably the same.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Viin on May 08, 2006, 05:20:04 PM
Hey! I resemble that remark!\

(That's a joke, son. Actually, I do resent that remark).


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: sinij on May 08, 2006, 07:06:26 PM
Griefers.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Strazos on May 08, 2006, 10:57:20 PM
All the good pillage has already been, er...pillaged.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Evangolis on May 10, 2006, 05:39:57 AM
I'd want to do the same thing if my sister was raped, and then the rapist comes to my house and says 'Hey, I'm that guy that raped your sister. I think she's hot. You should force her to marry me. I'm a really nice guy, really!'. Ass, he got what he deserved.

Well they killed everyone in the town too.  The guy? Sure, I can see that; I'd have been right there with them.  Maybe even the Pop for not only condoning the behavior but also enabling it and not really giving a shit that his son is a fuckhead rapist - and also for convincing the town to get circumcized as a ploy for stealing cattle and womens and shit.  But the whole town and taking all the womens and stuff as thier own?

Ok, sure they were dishonest fucks and all but they might have gone a bit far there.

That's the way they rolled back in the day. It was the common course of warfare when sacking a city to kill the men and carry off the women as slaves. The cost of imperialism is much lower if you don't have continually pacify the conquered people. Back then, they just did it once, but really, really good. If you kill all the men in a town and rape all the women, twenty years later, all the men there are your countrymen, and you only really need to occupy them for like 15 minutes.

I couldn't help but notice that at no time did any of the guys involved ask the girl what she thought about the whole thing.

As to the whole rape and pillage approach to the hearts and minds issue, I can't help but notice what a sweet and peaceful land the descendants of these folks abide in today, and how well they and their neighbors get along.

It is my inability to stop noticing things that made me less than completely popular in my fundamentalist Christian hometown, I suspect.

Edit: Nice article, btw.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Murgos on May 10, 2006, 07:32:58 AM
I couldn't help but notice that at no time did any of the guys involved ask the girl what she thought about the whole thing.
You don't ask your car how it feels about getting a tire change do you?  :evil:


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Ironwood on May 10, 2006, 08:02:00 AM
Let's be frank :  The bitch was asking for it.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Endie on May 10, 2006, 09:24:42 AM
Let's be frank :  The bitch was asking for it.

Like Justice Pickles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Pickles) said, she was no angel.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: stray on May 10, 2006, 10:12:36 AM
I couldn't help but notice that at no time did any of the guys involved ask the girl what she thought about the whole thing.

As to the whole rape and pillage approach to the hearts and minds issue, I can't help but notice what a sweet and peaceful land the descendants of these folks abide in today, and how well they and their neighbors get along.

I'm not challenging your ideals and wishes here (because I share them), but can you point out one society/region in this period that lived up to these standards? I'd like to know about it.

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It is my inability to stop noticing things that made me less than completely popular in my fundamentalist Christian hometown, I suspect.

I don't know about your hometown, but I would like to point out that

Middle Eastern Bronze Age tribal feuds != Jesus of Nazareth

But of course, I'm sure people know that...

Anyways...Is this thread officially about "religion" now?  :lol:


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Ironwood on May 10, 2006, 10:20:45 AM
Was it ever about anything else ?


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Paelos on May 10, 2006, 10:59:32 AM
These are the same dudes who sold their own brother into slavery, so killing a town of their enemies was well within their wheelhouse.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Litigator on May 10, 2006, 03:20:18 PM


As to the whole rape and pillage approach to the hearts and minds issue, I can't help but notice what a sweet and peaceful land the descendants of these folks abide in today, and how well they and their neighbors get along.



Well, this is from Genesis which precedes the part of the Bible where God starts making a lot of rules.  Blood guilt was a common cultural concept at that time, so a rape was a crime on the heads of all the men of a tribe or something. Later on, God puts the kibosh on it. However, it was maintained as a principle of warfare that you kill the men until very recently. A distinction between enemy civilians and enemy combatants, and a notion of humanity in warfare is a very recent development.

There are still tribal societies that punish murders of someone from one family group by executing a member of the killer's family the same age as a victim, rather than directly punishing the killer.


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Paelos on May 10, 2006, 10:01:23 PM
The Sicilians still do this don't they? Family blood feuds?


Title: Re: Bible Study for Gamers
Post by: Endie on May 11, 2006, 03:39:20 AM
The Sicilians still do this don't they? Family blood feuds?

Never been to Sicily, but I know that the more rural Albanians are still hot for the lex talionis.