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Title: The Boys
Post by: Threash on July 26, 2019, 03:10:20 PM
This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcrNsIaQkb4) just dropped on Prime today and after two episodes I am loving the shit out of it.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: HaemishM on July 26, 2019, 03:12:00 PM
That is next up on my binge list after I finish Season 2 of the Tick.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Khaldun on July 26, 2019, 04:19:30 PM
Hm. I hated the comic, but...I might give this a try.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Reg on July 26, 2019, 05:45:57 PM
That looks amazing.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Teleku on July 26, 2019, 07:13:51 PM
Ah, good to hear it sounds good.  I liked the comic overall, but it was a big rough around the edges (and as Schild commented before, its Garth Ennis doing too much Garth Ennis).  I always did feel it was perfect material for an adaptation though, if handled by the right person.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Teleku on July 26, 2019, 09:40:36 PM
Well, been watching first two episodes.  This is a heeeeaaaavy adaptation.  It’s got a lot of the comic in broad strokes, but the vast majority of it is very different from the comics (at least so far).  So much so that while I enjoy it, I think my expectations from the comic are getting in the way of my enjoyment, because things are so different/wrong from what I expect.  Kind of wish they had hewed a bit closer to the comics for the base story.

Anyways, if you didn’t like the comic, you may still like this (unless of course you just hated the entire premise).


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Soln on July 26, 2019, 11:29:42 PM
Sounds like what happened with Preacher...


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Teleku on July 27, 2019, 08:30:28 PM
Hmm, ok, so I binged this.  I’m sort of curious why they bothered to get the rights to The Boys when they did literally a completely different story.  If they had just changed the names of characters, the hero costumes, and just about 3 scenes they took from the comic, they could have done this entire thing as is under a different name.  Having read the comic first is always probably going to sour my view on it because I was hoping to see the basic story of The Boys adapted, and they just did their own thing.

As for the series itself, I think it was good?  It was pretty solid throughout and above average I think.  Just wasn’t as fun for me though as the team basically just bumbled around and accidentally accomplished things the whole series instead of being a CIA black ops with a goal.  And boy, the cliffhanger at the end of the season completely changes everything 100% away from what little story they were using from the comics, so no idea what they are going to do from here.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Tale on July 27, 2019, 08:55:37 PM
I just watched half of the first episode, and I can tell I'm going to be bingeing this asap. Like most of Amazon's shows, it's beautifully made and has hooked me right in. They have become much more reliable than Netflix in series quality. I've never heard of the comic.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Teleku on July 27, 2019, 09:04:25 PM
Yeah, production quality on this is way above the average Netflix show.  It's almost as if Amazon has endless money. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Abagadro on July 28, 2019, 01:10:08 AM
Holy shit this show is fucked up in the best possible ways.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Chimpy on July 28, 2019, 03:43:25 PM
Holy shit this show is fucked up in the best possible ways.

Was definitely an entertaining, yet also at times sickening, jaunt.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: HaemishM on July 28, 2019, 04:02:59 PM
Just watched the first episode. Very Garth Ennis.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Shannow on July 28, 2019, 04:51:29 PM
I keep thinking Eden Hazard is playing frenchie


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Threash on July 28, 2019, 06:25:07 PM
I really appreciated Homelander explaining why he couldn't carry that plane.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Riggswolfe on July 28, 2019, 07:51:19 PM
I really appreciated Homelander explaining why he couldn't carry that plane.

Everytime Superman has saved a plane I've had a brief flash of the kinds of things he mentions. I usually write it off and just enjoy the story but it's there in the back of my mind. That said, I can't wait for them to finally kill Homelander somehow.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Teleku on July 28, 2019, 08:25:41 PM
The way the comics approached that topic was actually pretty cool, but not sure they are going to keep it in this version.  A big part of it plot wise has already been changed.

Also, love how everybody keeps mentioning how fucked up the show is, because it's waaaaay toned down from the comics.  Mind you, that's a good thing because the comics biggest flaw is they tried way to hard to be fucked up and shocking, and it distracted from the story.  So, happy they did a PG version of the comics in that regard, but just funny to see reactions.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: MahrinSkel on July 28, 2019, 09:39:52 PM
PG? It may be toned down from the comics, but it's definitely still a solid "R".

--Dave


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Teleku on July 28, 2019, 10:14:45 PM
I meant PG compared to the comics.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Tale on July 28, 2019, 10:48:48 PM
Billy Butcher has a weird accent. He's supposed to be English, and he's played by a New Zealand actor trying to do an English accent, but to my Scottish-Aussie ear he sounds like an American doing a bad Australian accent.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Samwise on July 29, 2019, 09:43:06 AM
Simon Pegg doing an American accent really messed with my head.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Teleku on July 29, 2019, 06:28:08 PM
The fun meta Easter egg with that casting, in case nobody knew, is that the Comic version of Hughie was based off Simon Pegg.

(https://nerdworldnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/hughie_pegg-570x318.jpg)


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: MisterNoisy on July 29, 2019, 07:50:52 PM
Antony Starr is fucking great at projecting veiled menace in this, same as in Banshee.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: HaemishM on July 29, 2019, 08:48:51 PM
Four episodes in and it is fantastic. The goddamn dolphin scene with the Deep running from Oceanland had me screaming in laughter.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: MisterNoisy on July 29, 2019, 08:54:12 PM
Four episodes in and it is fantastic. The goddamn dolphin scene with the Deep running from Oceanland had me screaming in laughter.

Same, though it almost felt like a Family Guy skit.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Chimpy on July 29, 2019, 11:20:31 PM
The Spice Girls speech was the most surreal and possibly best part of the whole series.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Abagadro on July 30, 2019, 01:00:28 AM
I thought the last 2 episodes were a bit weak but there was lots of good stuff in the season.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Threash on July 30, 2019, 09:52:02 AM
I thought it just got better as it went along.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: HaemishM on July 30, 2019, 10:25:27 AM
Four episodes in and it is fantastic. The goddamn dolphin scene with the Deep running from Oceanland had me screaming in laughter.

Same, though it almost felt like a Family Guy skit.

That's Garth Ennis though, innit? I mean, his whole style is "like Mark Millar only it starts at full retard with no apologies and better writing."


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Riggswolfe on July 30, 2019, 12:27:55 PM
Four episodes in and it is fantastic. The goddamn dolphin scene with the Deep running from Oceanland had me screaming in laughter.

Same, though it almost felt like a Family Guy skit.

That's Garth Ennis though, innit? I mean, his whole style is "like Mark Millar only it starts at full retard with no apologies and better writing."

That entire scene was great. I loved the feel that the dolphin was basically sexually harassing him. "Fine, but I'll only touch it." and then the slow mo where it looked at him as it flew by. I've never read the comics but I almost wonder if the Deep isn't the Jaime Lannister of the show. He does something awful in the first episode but the following episodes spend a lot of time humanizing him. And let's be honest, he was on the other side of a rape when he was gill banged by that girl.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Threash on July 30, 2019, 02:00:18 PM
From a showrunner AMA on reddit:

Quote
There was ONE SCENE that Amazon said FUCK NO, you have to cut. I couldn't quite understand why considering everything else we have in the show, but: Homelander, after being dressed down by Stilwell in episode 2, was standing on one of the Chrysler building Eagles. He pulled his pants down and started jerking off, mumbling "I can do whatever I want" over and over again until he climaxed all over New York City. We shot it! Oh my God, Anthony was the BEST in that scene. Amazon seemed to think it wasn't necessary. I thought it told me something about his psyche. To be clear, they've been great, that may have been the ONLY fight I lost in Season 1.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Rasix on August 06, 2019, 04:35:21 PM
I loved this show beginning to end. I can't remember the time I've binged a season in less than 2 days.

Are the comics worth a read if I've already seen this? I'm not a big comics guy, but I like the show's concept at its core.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: TheWalrus on August 06, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Same. This was the best superhero show I've ever seen.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Teleku on August 06, 2019, 06:32:26 PM
I loved this show beginning to end. I can't remember the time I've binged a season in less than 2 days.

Are the comics worth a read if I've already seen this? I'm not a big comics guy, but I like the show's concept at its core.
It's really hard to say.  As you may have seen me say before, the actual day to day story of the comics and most characters personalities are completely different from this show.  IMO, they improved some characters a lot (such as Frenchie) and degraded others (Butcher, who as more complex in the comics I felt).  The concept is the same, but the actual plot is very different.  The comic is also meant to be much more satirical and extreme in nature.  The supes in the comic are all waaaaaay more fucked up and psycho (something toned down in the show that I think was a good change), but it also heavily goes into mocking neo-cons and the military industrial complex circa the height of the war on terror (something the show skipped). The comic revolves around a sort of cold war power struggle between the military industrial complex and the supes, with The Boys being the governments weapon of choice off the books to keep them in check, while Vought is doing its best to infiltrate and buy its way into controlling the government.  Which I thought was an awesome setup.

Again though, the comic is heavy satire.  They basically create equivalents for every major superhero and super group from comics, and then show them being really fucked up in some way (including a flashback arc to Hughies childhood that makes fun of Hardy Boys shit hilariously).  How fucked up most supes are is dialed up to 11 in the comic, which sort of hurt it overall.  However, I honestly really liked where the plot went and how the whole thing ended.

So in short, uh, I guess just start reading it.  You should figure out pretty quickly if its for you or not.  They do some awesome/hilarious world building in the comics though!


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Khaldun on August 06, 2019, 08:51:11 PM
The comic is a queasy mix of now-standard "what if superheroes were real, they'd be part of the systems that already rule us or they'd be working to be gods fucking us over in new ways" plus the now-standard "superheroes like celebrities would all be totally corrupt and evil assholes" plus Garth Ennis' standard forms of sophomoric obsession with filthy sex and spectacular violence plus the love of ironic reversals plus massive cynicism. None of which is that different from the show, but the show has some surprising restraint and patience about how it works this terrain. Ennis dials it to 11 and plays a death metal soundtrack over it while he does.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Soln on August 15, 2019, 08:46:10 AM
This is good. Surprisingly good. There’s character development and real acting. And the production is great.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Tale on August 15, 2019, 09:46:28 PM
I thought the last 2 episodes were a bit weak but there was lots of good stuff in the season.

Agree. The last episode was all over the place. I don't really mind though.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Khaldun on August 15, 2019, 10:38:06 PM
I think the only thing that doesn't fully work in the series is that Butcher et al just don't seem all that competent or experienced with supes, unlike the comic--an awful lot depends on Hughie (who is very different in the series) more or less getting lucky and/or explaining really basic technological stuff to the group.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Teleku on August 16, 2019, 07:40:47 PM
I think the only thing that doesn't fully work in the series is that Butcher et al just don't seem all that competent or experienced with supes, unlike the comic--an awful lot depends on Hughie (who is very different in the series) more or less getting lucky and/or explaining really basic technological stuff to the group.
Yeah, I think that's the biggest change that bugs me about this.  I liked the idea of The Boys actually being a fairly competent and hardcore CIA black ops team doing the dirty work for the military industrial complex trying to push back against the power of the supes (while using that as a spring board to peruse their own actual agendas).  In this Butcher is just some angry dude who doesn't seem to know wtf he's actually doing and they just keep getting lucky over and over again.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Mazakiel on August 17, 2019, 01:33:09 PM
I like Hughie in this, but the rest of the Boys in the show version just don't make any sense as a counter to the Seven/supes in general.  The actors are okay and all that, but the writing for the characters just makes them a pack of idiots that I have trouble even caring about by the end.  I found the Seven more interesting to follow along with. 


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Ironwood on August 19, 2019, 02:50:22 AM
Finished this 'cause every motherfucker was going on about how wondrous it is and I'm frankly disappointed.

I think the cast did a stellar job with what they had, but what they had wasn't that much and having it end as basically a setup for a potentially interesting series was a total WTF moment.

Breaking Bad Chicken guy was Chekov's villain the entire time until, surprise, he wasn't.  The 'twist' with Becca was so signposted my blind dead gran would have figured it out and the relationship between Stillwell and Homelander was just, frankly, fucking annoying.

I can maybe get that anyone who hasn't grown up with Watchman might think it's somehow revolutionary, but it left me entirely cold.

Also, WHAT THE FUCK WAS UP WITH EOMERS ACCENT.  JESUS CHRIST.  When he lapsed into Australian slang and passed it off as British ?  Awesomecakes.  In a truly bad way.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Surlyboi on August 19, 2019, 04:24:04 PM
Kiwi doing an Australian imitating Michael Caine.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Chimpy on August 19, 2019, 05:11:19 PM
I just saw it as an amalgam of “what most Americans think British/Scottish/Australian” people sound like.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Threash on August 19, 2019, 05:20:25 PM
I believe the accent changing and being inaccurate is a thing from the comics, which they probably should have ditched as it seems like bad acting.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Ironwood on August 20, 2019, 02:31:00 AM
Really ?   That's unfortunate.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on August 20, 2019, 04:24:22 PM
While not perfect, it was enjoyable.  The carnage was visually interesting to observe.  Highly predictable, but as a spectacle it was sufficient.  I enjoyed Urban, even if the accent was odd.

However, the show didn't feel right.  I never read the comics - that is no what I mean by right.  I mean that it doesn't seem like that world would organically grow out of the premise, or that if it did, it would be stable at the point the series started.   It also felt like they didn't both to spec the powers of each of the characters... they seemed to be fluctuating based upon need.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: eldaec on August 22, 2019, 03:58:48 AM
Half way through and I can't decide if I like this.

Some performances within it are great.  But the story seems less interesting as it goes on. Homelander case in point, Starr is doing an amazing job, and to start with I thought they were going for mentally broken true believer version of Dr Manhatten, cool, I thought that will be interesting vs corporate jerks. But uh, no, he really is just stronger than the other guys, fine I guess. Maybe it will flex back.

The main guys only half telling us their motivation is just annoying me, not least because the what they are doing in the moment is neither interesting or competent enough to distract me. I keep thinking that if it is this easy to outwit the superheroes how is it these dweebs are the first to do it. The reason I think they don't get suspension of disbelief is that the action is mediocre. The director seems to think blood is funny and/or exciting of itself.

Even the big thing at the start where A train kills the girl, was reduced in impact by how pleased with himself the director was. OK that happened, now I'm watching 20 seconds of bad cgi...... yes this is still happening.... this pause pretty much confirms everyone's role in the story I didn't need this long to think about it..... Oh you still have her hands, that is neither convincing, horrific, or humorous because of how damn long it took.

You stuck a bomb up his ass, fine but there is a limit to how many times reminding me about the prior episode's joke is going to be funny.


The dolphin was funny though.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: HaemishM on August 22, 2019, 09:43:16 AM
The reason I think they don't get suspension of disbelief is that the action is mediocre. The director seems to think blood is funny and/or exciting of itself.

I wouldn't blame that on the director - that is a typical Garth Ennis staple.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: eldaec on August 22, 2019, 10:10:48 AM
I'm dumping a bunch of stuff at the director's door that is probably writer or showrunners, fair enough.

Everything is average except the acting.

Costumes, score, lighting, cgi. Everything.



Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Brolan on August 22, 2019, 12:00:02 PM
Episodes 1-5 built up a good head of steam but 6-8 just kind of coasted to the end. 

I enjoyed it but not sure we need another season.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Threash on August 22, 2019, 02:22:12 PM
It ended cliffhangery as fuck though.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Khaldun on August 22, 2019, 05:37:05 PM
Half way through and I can't decide if I like this.

Some performances within it are great.  But the story seems less interesting as it goes on. Homelander case in point, Starr is doing an amazing job, and to start with I thought they were going for mentally broken true believer version of Dr Manhatten, cool, I thought that will be interesting vs corporate jerks. But uh, no, he really is just stronger than the other guys, fine I guess. Maybe it will flex back.

The main guys only half telling us their motivation is just annoying me, not least because the what they are doing in the moment is neither interesting or competent enough to distract me. I keep thinking that if it is this easy to outwit the superheroes how is it these dweebs are the first to do it. The reason I think they don't get suspension of disbelief is that the action is mediocre. The director seems to think blood is funny and/or exciting of itself.

Even the big thing at the start where A train kills the girl, was reduced in impact by how pleased with himself the director was. OK that happened, now I'm watching 20 seconds of bad cgi...... yes this is still happening.... this pause pretty much confirms everyone's role in the story I didn't need this long to think about it..... Oh you still have her hands, that is neither convincing, horrific, or humorous because of how damn long it took.

You stuck a bomb up his ass, fine but there is a limit to how many times reminding me about the prior episode's joke is going to be funny.


The dolphin was funny though.

Keep in mind in the comic there's a big thing at some point about killing a superhero with a dildo bomb. There is only so much de-Ennis you can do, I think--when he writes this kind of stuff he swaggers around in it like it's some awesomely brilliant thing.



Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Brolan on August 22, 2019, 08:21:54 PM
I just don't know where they go from here.  They have been fully exposed to a very competent intelligence gathering organization backed up by a person who for all intents and purposes is a god. 

How do you get around that without it getting all contrived as fuck?


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: eldaec on August 23, 2019, 04:35:09 AM
By making some dick jokes I imagine.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: NowhereMan on August 23, 2019, 06:20:00 AM
The only route really is reversing what makes a good Superman story. Superman is always at his best when he's being challenged as a person, when his moral compass is tested or he's forced to outthink his enemy rather than just 'Lex Luthor has a new type of Kryptonite!' type stories.

This I can see going the same way where the Boys actually hit Homelander on a psychological level, targeting his identity, etc. This is a problem if you really do make the character into a complete psychopath as there isn't really much to attack. No human relations, etc. makes it difficult to make that a compelling story. The Boys trying to get some plot Macguffin that can kill Homelander would be as lame as any Superman Kryptonite story even if you're meant to be cheering for the other side.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Abagadro on December 07, 2019, 01:35:06 AM
Teaser trailer is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=67&v=WYnSEW4sXrk&feature=emb_title

No real info, but clearly lots of craziness to come.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: justdave on March 16, 2020, 05:11:00 PM
I had no problem with the latter half of season one, I loved the whole thing (while acknowledging a few wobbles).

If S2 could ship in time for quarantine season that'd be swell, Amazon.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on March 16, 2020, 05:53:58 PM
The casting of Aya Cash as Storm Front slipped by me initially, but that has me intrigued.  Very intrigued.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Threash on July 13, 2020, 12:26:40 PM
This bullshit they are pulling about releasing weekly pisses me off.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Velorath on July 14, 2020, 11:35:22 PM
This bullshit they are pulling about releasing weekly pisses me off.

Didn’t realize they were doing that, but then wait until all the episodes are out and binge them all then?

I kinda prefer weekly releases since it allows for conversations where everyone is on the same page. Otherwise it’s just a race to the finish for some people and then nobody wants to enter into a discussion about it until they’ve finished everything. Then the conversation just ends up being very broad liked/disliked It, wonder what they’ll do next season.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: NowhereMan on July 15, 2020, 08:01:11 AM
I also find I don't generally have time to binge watch tv shows anymore outside of rare weekends. A weekly release schedule might mean I actually have a chance to keep up with people  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Khaldun on July 15, 2020, 08:30:54 AM
Even when I have time, I don't actually like doing it--I zone out of any given show after 2 hours worth. But I guess one a day is still something like a binge.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on July 15, 2020, 09:49:00 AM
I think there are shows I'd prefer to binge and then there are shows I'd prefer to dribble out.  Daredevil season 1, was binge-worthy. 

This is a show that can go either way, in theory, but from what little I know of the comics, I'm expecting that the weekly schedule might be better.  Of course, it would be nice to be able to see the entire thing before the collapse of Western Civilization, so I think I'd prefer it all be available early so that I can set my own schedule.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Hawkbit on July 15, 2020, 02:23:56 PM
We tend to watch 2-4 eps together once a week for the shows we watch as a couple. I watch a few shows on my own, and I usually binge them passively while playing games.

The only thing that worries me about these types of rollouts is that some of the streaming services weight first weekend viewing heavily in how they choose to renew shows. If there's a show I like but don't have time to watch, then I run the risk of not getting the story finished because it gets cancelled when the early numbers aren't good. 


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on July 15, 2020, 05:46:19 PM
We tend to watch 2-4 eps together once a week for the shows we watch as a couple. I watch a few shows on my own, and I usually binge them passively while playing games.

The only thing that worries me about these types of rollouts is that some of the streaming services weight first weekend viewing heavily in how they choose to renew shows. If there's a show I like but don't have time to watch, then I run the risk of not getting the story finished because it gets cancelled when the early numbers aren't good. 
You can always put it on with the sound off when you're not in the room and let it play without you on opening weekend. 


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: lamaros on July 25, 2020, 12:35:24 AM
I enjoyed this enough to binge it in two days. I think some of the acting is really good, especially Antony Starr. Certainly the kind of show that works best when you just keep pushing through and don't try and stop to think about it.

The supes in the comic are all waaaaaay more fucked up and psycho (something toned down in the show that I think was a good change), but it also heavily goes into mocking neo-cons and the military industrial complex circa the height of the war on terror (something the show skipped). The comic revolves around a sort of cold war power struggle between the military industrial complex and the supes, with The Boys being the governments weapon of choice off the books to keep them in check, while Vought is doing its best to infiltrate and buy its way into controlling the government.  Which I thought was an awesome setup.

Most of this came through to me in the show, maybe not as extreme as you mention. But not really subtle, either.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: TheWalrus on July 26, 2020, 01:54:35 PM
Yeah, it was definitely tilted. Using supes as weapons for the government was a pretty solid theme throughout. And using the government as a means of income for a private corporation.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Khaldun on July 26, 2020, 03:54:14 PM
Maybe this season they'll turn a bit more towards "there are military and intelligence elements desperate to put the brakes on the supes and their corporate supporters". Because I don't really see otherwise how our Fearless Heroes actually survive, considering the limited covert competencies they've shown so far.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Draegan on August 11, 2020, 10:58:07 PM
I binged the shit out of this. Really good show.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Abagadro on September 06, 2020, 01:40:07 AM
Disappointing they have gone to a weekly release schedule on this show.  I think it lends itself to a binge watch.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 14, 2020, 04:23:27 PM
I could see it making sense if it was something with a monthly subscription, but doesn't everyone just buy Prime yearly?


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: lamaros on September 15, 2020, 12:43:07 AM
I just can't get into this season.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: eldaec on September 15, 2020, 01:05:13 AM
I think I prefer it a bit to the first run. Seems less encumbered by origins.

But the incompetence of the main guys is still irritating.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: MediumHigh on September 15, 2020, 09:31:47 AM
Yeah this is not as good as the first season...


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on September 15, 2020, 10:35:33 AM
It seems to be wandering.  They need a direction.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Soln on September 15, 2020, 08:54:13 PM
I really don’t care about any of the romances or the Seven politics. There’s no plot.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: eldaec on September 16, 2020, 10:40:39 AM
Really?

Stormfront competing with Gustavo Fring to take over the world with an army of ubermecnsch is not a plot?

It has issues but I hate the angsty bits less this season than last. I don't even hate the bits with Ryan as much I assumed I would.

Could do with fewer Deep scenes though.

It definitely seems more confident that it doesn't need to waste my time with slow motion death sequences. Which is nice.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Abagadro on September 19, 2020, 02:17:28 AM
Episode 5 was great!


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Threash on September 19, 2020, 03:34:14 PM
I would have expected Homelander to be a little more freaked out at finding someone who was a match for him. Maybe it was a fear boner.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Surlyboi on September 19, 2020, 11:24:48 PM
Nah. Finding someone that can potentially kick your ass is hot for some people.

Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything.


Title: Re: The Boys
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Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Abagadro on October 01, 2020, 10:27:42 PM
Episode 7 should have been called


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Threash on October 02, 2020, 11:06:01 AM
Both Stormfront and Homelander were completely lost in that scene so it isn't them doing it.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: eldaec on October 02, 2020, 12:32:02 PM
Not homelander certainly, but Stormfront could be behind it. More likely Gustavo Fring. It could be the scientologists I guess given that the exploding heads lady was last seen on the loose, but I'm thinking they are a season 3 set up.

Edit : it has been pointed out to me that shockwave getting got might be a clue that it is the scientologists. As there is a natural space for A train back in the 7, though that could still be S3 set up.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on October 07, 2020, 06:56:26 PM
Homelander and Stormfront not being targets has to be a clue.  Wouldn't they be targets #1 and 2 for pretty much everyone out there?  Maybe not the Scientology clones, but pretty much anyone else would start with them.

Liberty didn't seem to have Stormfront's powers (she did not fry the traffic stop guy).  My guess is that her involvement in the experiments was about copying the powers of other Supers and adding them to hers.  If so, she has a copy of the powers of the telekinetic Sup that escaped and used it without anyone knowing she had the power.



Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Threash on October 08, 2020, 05:35:11 PM
The only reason they know its liberty is because someone literally recognized her face. She did not fry the traffic stop guy because she wanted to beat him.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on October 08, 2020, 07:07:45 PM
The only reason they know its liberty is because someone literally recognized her face. She did not fry the traffic stop guy because she wanted to beat him.
There is no evidence of Liberty having electric powers, and usually someone with electric powers has something about their costume or name that evokes electricity.  That is the basis for my belief she didn't have the powers then, but does now. 

I could be wrong - I'm not basing the theory on much.  But we'll see.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on October 08, 2020, 10:16:22 PM
Or, you know ... that.

Nice.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Threash on October 09, 2020, 12:16:54 PM
Fuck Fresca indeed.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Setanta on October 09, 2020, 06:38:16 PM
Please tell me there are more episodes, because last night's kept me interested for every minute. Wheels within wheels well and truly.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Chimpy on October 09, 2020, 06:41:01 PM
Please tell me there are more episodes, because last night's kept me interested for every minute. Wheels within wheels well and truly.

That was the end of season 2.



Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: MahrinSkel on October 09, 2020, 06:47:45 PM
And season 3 is apparently going to be a prequel season:

https://ew.com/tv/the-boys-season-3-jensen-ackles-soldier-boy-payback-explainer/ (https://ew.com/tv/the-boys-season-3-jensen-ackles-soldier-boy-payback-explainer/)

--Dave


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on October 09, 2020, 07:50:00 PM
And season 3 is apparently going to be a prequel season:

https://ew.com/tv/the-boys-season-3-jensen-ackles-soldier-boy-payback-explainer/ (https://ew.com/tv/the-boys-season-3-jensen-ackles-soldier-boy-payback-explainer/)

--Dave
I think there will be flashbacks and maybe an episode set in the past - but the majority of it will continue the present day story.  It isn't going to be a true prequel. 


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: MediumHigh on October 09, 2020, 08:04:44 PM
Watching Season 2 is like reading a fanfic of the Boys season 1. A lot of "and than" storytelling.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on October 10, 2020, 08:01:21 AM
Watching Season 2 is like reading a fanfic of the Boys season 1. A lot of "and than" storytelling.
So you're saying that the Season 2 continued the stories of Season 1?  It … continued the stories?  Cunts.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: eldaec on October 10, 2020, 09:21:36 AM
I found season 2 far better than 1.

There was an actual story rather than a sequence of bad special effects shots.

I didn't care if there was a season 2. Wheras now a kind of hope thee is a season 3.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: MediumHigh on October 10, 2020, 12:38:11 PM
Watching Season 2 is like reading a fanfic of the Boys season 1. A lot of "and than" storytelling.
So you're saying that the Season 2 continued the stories of Season 1?  It … continued the stories?  Cunts.

Hmm I'm things don't make a logical progression and is thrown at the audience for shock value.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on October 10, 2020, 04:52:12 PM
...Hmm I'm things don't make a logical progression and is thrown at the audience for shock value.
No, you're a lot of things, but you're not things don't make a logical progression and is thrown at anything for shock value. 


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: MediumHigh on October 10, 2020, 05:11:05 PM
...Hmm I'm things don't make a logical progression and is thrown at the audience for shock value.
No, you're a lot of things, but you're not things don't make a logical progression and is thrown at anything for shock value. 




Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: MediumHigh on October 12, 2020, 04:52:08 PM
I do have to say, waiting 8 episodes for nazi thunder to get stomped out was kinda worth it.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: TheWalrus on October 14, 2020, 01:26:29 AM
HOLD UP.

Hold.
The.
Fuck.
Up.

Bro, did you just say vanilla folder?

Vanilla fucking folder?

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Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Abagadro on October 14, 2020, 02:21:26 AM
Vanilla....Manila

Manila....Vanilla

Let's call the whole thing off.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Samwise on October 14, 2020, 04:19:54 PM
You know, I read that and didn't even process what he was trying to say.  I thought he was trying to say that it was a boring/cliche ("vanilla") plot device and was just phrasing it extremely awkwardly because he'd recently suffered some head trauma. 

The reality is WAY funnier though.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Phildo on October 14, 2020, 05:09:28 PM
And the whole thing is a Fallout prequel, apparently.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on October 14, 2020, 08:52:45 PM
What are you imagining her escape to have been?

The kid grew up believing he was in a normal neighborhood.  So we're talking about maybe something like a wall and some guards hidden away.  Cameras, too, obviously.  But this was not Supermax.

She showed a cigarette and lighter to a camera in the fourth episode and just drove off.  Butcher was able to sneak in with no trouble and with no knowledge of the situation while she spent years seeing the defenses in place.

Not exactly Fort Knox, especially when the real prisoner was the kid.



Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Velorath on October 14, 2020, 09:16:56 PM
Uh, think he's just referring to MediumHigh mistakenly calling Vought "vault".


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: MahrinSkel on October 14, 2020, 09:43:22 PM
What are you imagining her escape to have been?

The kid grew up believing he was in a normal neighborhood.  So we're talking about maybe something like a wall and some guards hidden away.  Cameras, too, obviously.  But this was not Supermax.

She showed a cigarette and lighter to a camera in the fourth episode and just drove off.  Butcher was able to sneak in with no trouble and with no knowledge of the situation while she spent years seeing the defenses in place.

Not exactly Fort Knox, especially when the real prisoner was the kid.
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Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Phildo on October 14, 2020, 10:06:38 PM
I guess I should have included the line about "the CEO of Vault", too.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: TheWalrus on October 15, 2020, 12:48:52 AM
Look, I'm not trying to make him tow the line. I just didn't want to pass up a bit of comedy that we might take for granite. Really, vanilla and Manila are one in the same, so we can just nip that pedantry in the butt. At any ray, he's probably past the statue of limitations on gaffs of this nurture. I think we can stop trying to make him curl up in the feeble position as it's obviously a mute point, and we're really just trying to make him look like an escape goat. Buy and large, he'll just be biting his time to catch us fouling something up, so we should all do a 360 and forgive him. After all, it's a doggy dog world.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Abagadro on October 15, 2020, 02:06:24 AM
I am awaiting his response with baited breath.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: Samwise on October 16, 2020, 11:51:54 AM
bit of a damp squid


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on October 16, 2020, 02:46:13 PM
… yeah. 

I was responding to MediumHigh.  Not the Fallout 'joke'. 

That was kind of … sad.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: HaemishM on October 30, 2020, 08:23:33 AM
Finished up season 2 last night. The middle bits did drag a bit, but the finale was well worth the wait. I bought the full run of graphic novels from Humble Bundle recently and started in on them. I'm through the first 3 editions (so like 18 issues or so) and I must say that Karl Urban's Butcher is a better developed character in the TV show. Maybe the comics gets to the Becca thing at some point after where I'm at, but the show actually trying to illustrate that Butcher is just as bad as Homelander is a good take. I actually think I prefer the TV characters to their comics counterparts, though I'd like to see more of the world fleshed out (without exploding bits covering everyone in the room).

I didn't realize the series creator was Eric Kripke, who was also the creator of Timeless. Makes a lot of sense though, considering the head of the Church of the Collective is played by Timeless's original antagonist and the Senator lady was one of the main engineer geeks from the show. Rufus the Pilot from Timeless also showed up as one of the image consultants in season 2.


Title: Re: The Boys
Post by: jgsugden on October 30, 2020, 09:24:04 AM
Finished up season 2 last night. The middle bits did drag a bit, but the finale was well worth the wait. I bought the full run of graphic novels from Humble Bundle recently and started in on them. I'm through the first 3 editions (so like 18 issues or so) and I must say that Karl Urban's Butcher is a better developed character in the TV show. Maybe the comics gets to the Becca thing at some point after where I'm at...
Yeah - Butcher's origin is a mystery in the comics for much longer.  And it is significantly different, although some key elements are the same.