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Title: Useless TV
Post by: Sir T on June 07, 2016, 07:15:34 PM
On a related note, we kind of need a subforum for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show.

*Waves Magic Wand* Bing!


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: Khaldun on June 07, 2016, 08:11:50 PM
I kind of thought that was against the rules of the TV and Movies forums.


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: Sir T on June 07, 2016, 08:15:56 PM
Honestly, I don't know. Sorry if I violated a rule. Mods can and probably will delete this.


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: Evildrider on June 07, 2016, 08:19:41 PM
I kind of thought that was against the rules of the TV and Movies forums.


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Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: Khaldun on June 07, 2016, 08:35:24 PM
Hey, I like the idea--I tried this once in Movies, but it was eventually modded out of existence.


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: TheWalrus on June 08, 2016, 02:08:10 AM
I have discovered I'm getting old. I'm tired of pointless sex scenes in shows that seem like they're only there so that the writers didn't have to come up with anything for that space.

I got bored with it bright and early on in Game of Thrones. I thought the Jessica Jones series was excellent, but again, long ass ( :why_so_serious:) sex for no purpose. Show the clothes on the floor and get on with the story.

That or start acknowledging humans evacuate waste and do bathroom cuts too.


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: Cyrrex on June 08, 2016, 02:55:08 AM
I can kinda see where you are going, but let's get one thing straight:  sex scenes can be pointless, but nudity almost never is.  Remember the scene in GoT last year where one of the Sand Snake girls decided to show Bronn her rack?  Technically had no purpose, but it was still Must See TV.

Also, I like the Random TV thread.  There needs to be a place to discuss shows that don't otherwise deserve their own thread.


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: Signe on June 08, 2016, 09:33:34 AM
Yes, I agree.  No naked sex.  And boobs don't do anything for me.  We even have naked penises flopping about now.   :ye_gods:  NO MORE NAKED PENISES!


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: Sir T on June 08, 2016, 09:40:42 AM
I've been on the "fuck sex scenes" wagon for a while now. That its happened can be a part of the story. Every frigging detail is rarely if ever part of the story.

And seriously, they are tits. Every woman has them, ffs. And yeah we really don't need to see the Penis brigade...


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: Merusk on June 08, 2016, 10:12:40 AM
ITT old people.

Bring on the boobs and asses.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: Threash on June 08, 2016, 11:40:26 AM
ITT old people.

Bring on the boobs and asses.  :awesome_for_real:

Pretty much, anything scene were it's just talking is massively improved if it's talking while airing out some titties.


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: schild on June 08, 2016, 12:20:32 PM
Funny enough, thought about making this exact thread for movies late last week just to rag on some awful horror I'd been watching.


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: 01101010 on June 08, 2016, 12:37:21 PM
Yes, I agree.  No naked sex.  And boobs don't do anything for me.  We even have naked penises flopping about now.   :ye_gods:  NO MORE NAKED PENISES!

Clothed penises are no better...  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: Samwise on June 08, 2016, 12:56:44 PM
I propose retitling this thread "Useless TV" and stickying it.


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: jgsugden on June 08, 2016, 01:05:18 PM
I propose retitling this thread "Useless TV" and stickying it.
Seconded.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on June 08, 2016, 01:17:28 PM
Done.


Title: Re: Thread for discussion of TV that isn't about a specific show
Post by: TheWalrus on June 08, 2016, 01:22:15 PM
Funny enough, thought about making this exact thread for movies late last week just to rag on some awful horror I'd been watching.

Dude. Dish. I love awful horror.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on June 08, 2016, 01:22:49 PM
Funny enough, thought about making this exact thread for movies late last week just to rag on some awful horror I'd been watching.

Dude. Dish. I love awful horror.
Just posted a thread. I'm literally watching everything. My work has grinded to a halt due to the FDA, so I'm downloading literally everything from the past 5 years and plowing through it. What's in that thread is just the last week or so.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Yegolev on July 01, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
I'll put this here for now, but a weekend ago a friend and I decided to travel back to our childhoods and watch Mr. Ed.  Couple of surprises:
1. It's actually pretty damn good.  Meaning, it has some good writing and humor.  Or at least it fits our tastes in humor.  I think it molded my current sense of humor.
2. There are 26 episodes in season one.  We only made it through the first three.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on July 01, 2016, 10:12:25 PM
Man those are conflicting thoughts.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on July 01, 2016, 10:29:49 PM
I'll put this here for now, but a weekend ago a friend and I decided to travel back to our childhoods and watch Mr. Ed.  Couple of surprises:
1. It's actually pretty damn good.  Meaning, it has some good writing and humor.  Or at least it fits our tastes in humor.  I think it molded my current sense of humor.
2. There are 26 episodes in season one.  We only made it through the first three.

Man, you just reminded me of the "Old TV" block that came on right before GI Joe/ Transformers/ Thundercats.  My Favorite Martian and Gilligan's Island. On early dismissal days I could catch Mr. Ed, too. Yes those were actually some good shows for their time. Much funnier than I Love Lucy, which still gets all kinds of accolades but leaves me cold.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Evildrider on July 01, 2016, 10:38:41 PM
I always liked I Love Lucy, but the show I used to watch a lot was MASH.  Although that is newer than the other shows mentioned.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on July 01, 2016, 10:52:10 PM
MASH was good, yes. I don't even remember how I started watching that one or Three's Company now that I think about it.

I Love Lucy had a few good episodes, but I just didn't enjoy it as a whole. Carol Burnett and Mama's Family were more my style for women's comedy shows.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on July 01, 2016, 11:03:43 PM
I've always been partial to Dobie Gillis myself.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: apocrypha on July 02, 2016, 09:25:19 AM
MASH is so variable, some of it is great, some of it isn't.

I'm sure we've already got a thread for this but... Lost. Wife & I started watching it the other week. How did this shit get to survive for 5 seasons? It's fucking dreadful. Does it massively improve suddenly or something? We're about 5 episodes into Season 1 and I see no reason to continue whatsoever. The entire thing seems to be predicated on that same old crock of crap: "People are shitty and can't communicate!". ZZzzzZZZ.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Signe on July 02, 2016, 11:37:34 AM
There's a channel that shows nothing but old tv shows.  They have F Troop!  F Troop is very nearly almost the funniest show ever.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Signe on July 06, 2016, 09:53:49 AM
I have to say, tv is mostly very, very useless this summer.  :(


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Yegolev on July 06, 2016, 10:20:25 AM
Man those are conflicting thoughts.

We would have kept going but we had a late start.  Nothing to do with the quality of Mr. Ed.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: apocrypha on July 06, 2016, 11:18:55 AM
Furthering our hunt for things to watch during the summer, we started watching Black Sails and it's really good. Only 2 episodes in so far but loved both of them. It's like the antithesis of Pirates of the Caribbean.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Signe on July 07, 2016, 10:14:03 AM
Furthering our hunt for things to watch during the summer, we started watching Black Sails and it's really good. Only 2 episodes in so far but loved both of them. It's like the antithesis of Pirates of the Caribbean.

And, OMG, the abs!!   :grin:


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Cyrrex on July 07, 2016, 01:46:08 PM
Furthering our hunt for things to watch during the summer, we started watching Black Sails and it's really good. Only 2 episodes in so far but loved both of them. It's like the antithesis of Pirates of the Caribbean.

Black Sails.  Definitely not Useless TV.  Top 5 show right now, IMO.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Viin on July 07, 2016, 04:18:39 PM
Black Sails.  Definitely not Useless TV.  Top 5 show right now, IMO.

Really? The second season made me bored so I stopped watching.

Peaky Blinders season 3 is on Netflix for those of you who like "gritty" period dramas (highly recommended).


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Teleku on July 07, 2016, 04:50:16 PM
Did Peaky Blinders pick up?  I made it about half way through the first season.  Started out promising, but just sort of meandered into boring....bleh.  Silly Romance stuff, slow pot movement.  I really liked it at first, but lost all will to watch. 

Actually, that's exactly the same thing that happened to me with Turn.  Way to much time wasted on soap opera love triangle romance shit nobody cares about.  10% on actual spying and period history.  Again, made it half way through the first season.

And I love period peace series.  Pretty much the only thing I can stand watching these days is fantasy/sci-fi, or realistic historical drama.  Been let down do far, but maybe those series get better.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Sky on July 07, 2016, 05:21:09 PM
I love Cops.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Evildrider on July 11, 2016, 10:34:51 PM
I don't think it's been mentioned here but Kevin Smith is getting a crack at making a Buckaroo Banzai TV show.  He plans on making it an continuation of the story and is hoping to get as many people back as he can for cameos and such.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on July 12, 2016, 09:05:48 AM
I'm down with that.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Yegolev on July 20, 2016, 10:43:10 AM
I watched the entire run of Neon Joe, Werewolf Hunter and I had a great time.

We then watched the first 2 episodes of Black Jesus.  So far, so good.  Apparently it's loosely based on some book?


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on July 22, 2016, 11:29:58 AM
I watched Neon Joe expecting garbage and it was as fun as Saul of the Molemen was.

Black Jesus gets better each season. I don't know if it's based on a book or not.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Yegolev on July 22, 2016, 02:14:28 PM
My wife says I should read the Bible.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: TheWalrus on July 22, 2016, 02:16:13 PM
Everybody should, once.
It's great for a chuckle, if you can ignore the horrifying parts of it.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Viin on July 22, 2016, 02:27:03 PM
My wife says I should read the Bible.

The author of SMBC just came out with an abridged Bible, part of his Religion: Ruining Everything Since 4004 BC Kickstarter campaign. Seems pretty accurate and only takes about 5 mins to read.

Quote
Genesis
God made everything, but humans
keep screwing it up; some Jews
move to Egypt, which seemed like a
good idea at the time.

Exodus
Pharaoh tried to kill the Hebrews,
but he blew it, so they left, and then
everyone accidentally worshipped a
cow.

One of my favorites:

Quote
2 Samuel
David kills a bunch of people,
which is great, but then he sleeps
with a married woman, and WOW is
God mad about that. On the plus side,
they have a kid named Solomon.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on July 22, 2016, 05:53:38 PM
I wouldn't recommend anyone read the bible.

No good can come of it.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Torinak on July 22, 2016, 08:05:24 PM
I wouldn't recommend anyone read the bible.

No good can come of it.

Some parts of it are pretty good, but most people ignore those (you know, the parts advocating being a basically-decent human being).

There's a lot of begatting going on in the first bit, tons of brutality in the middle, some encouraging bits that end up going south for the speaker, and it ends with an epic boss fight.

The sequel isn't as good as the original; it feels a bit tacked on in places.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on July 22, 2016, 10:49:27 PM
Hollywood wasn't able to recreate the cultural and commercial success of the sequel until 1955.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Signe on July 22, 2016, 11:26:14 PM
I never got through the first part of it because it reads like a fucking telephone book.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Trippy on July 23, 2016, 12:21:46 AM
I never got through the first part of it because it reads like a fucking telephone book.
Jews take their begetting very seriously.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Yegolev on July 24, 2016, 07:09:35 AM
I wasn't going to read it just to get all the jokes and references in Black Jesus.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Khaldun on July 24, 2016, 08:54:07 AM
There are some really interesting things about some of the older sitcoms when you look at them from a distance. For one, how edgy some of the marriages you see actually are. The Ricardos and the Mertzes both, Darren and Samantha, etc.  The Cleavers really aren't the typical sitcom family, they're actually unusual. Also there's a few really old sitcom couples that really come across as sexually active young marrieds, despite the separate beds for the Ricardos and so on. Rob and Laura Petrie (Dick van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore) especially.

A show that I found just completely unfunny on re-watching was Carol Burnett. Also, my god but Carson's skits on the Tonight Show were just abysmal. Even the monologues mostly. His only real strength was the interviewing, which he was pretty good at.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Sir T on July 24, 2016, 11:06:30 AM

One of my favorites:

Quote
2 Samuel
David kills a bunch of people,
which is great, but then he sleeps
with a married woman, and WOW is
God mad about that. On the plus side,
they have a kid named Solomon.

Strictly speaking she wasn't married at the time becasue David had send the husband out into battle and arranged for him to get killed.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on July 24, 2016, 12:01:10 PM
A show that I found just completely unfunny on re-watching was Carol Burnett.

What the fuck is wrong with you, man? That's like... comedy blasphemy or something.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Khaldun on July 25, 2016, 07:13:57 AM
It just doesn't feel to me like it ages that well. There's still some stuff that's great--that Tim Conway/Harvey Korman sketch where they're dentist and dental patient, but a lot of it is so vaudeville in a way that doesn't have much purchase still.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Selby on July 25, 2016, 08:20:39 AM
There's still some stuff that's great--that Tim Conway/Harvey Korman sketch where they're dentist and dental patient, but a lot of it is so vaudeville in a way that doesn't have much purchase still.
I think a lot of it comes with the generation of comedy you grew up with & what you found funny in it. I've seen some late 50's & early 60's standup recently & while some of it is funny, a lot of it is situational to the era & delivered in a manner that is relatively foreign these days. If you weren't already a fan of that stuff nor did you have any connection to it like a sub-40 year old it's hard to relate to. The same can be said for vintage SNL (that everyone over 50 raves about) & Carol Burnett - some of it is definitely funny but there were plenty of experimental sketches that may have been funny then but fall pretty flat now, along with some bits that I wondered what they were thinking. She did run the show for almost 10 years and a lot changed in that era, including the format of the show so it's not surprising to find people not relating to it 40+ years later.

And I do find that most of the "modern" sitcom plot lines & routines were done 50 years ago & are just rehashes now...


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Yegolev on July 25, 2016, 10:50:27 AM
It is completely true that most everything in sitcoms was done during the B&W era.  Having watched a lot of Honeymooners and I Heart Lucy, I see that and so I just pass on most shows since I've seen it already.  Then you can start filling in other shows over the years and there really isn't a lot of new stuff going on.  Hell, I don't watch Curb Your Enthusiasm because of my thorough absorption of Seinfeld and frankly I prefer Alexander's Larry David.

Another seemingly sexually active couple was Wilbur and Whatshername from Mr. Ed.  Quite a few jokes about it from the old and sexless neighbors, too.

First prime-time television couple to share a bed?  Fred & Wilma.  Lots of great tropes from that show.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on July 25, 2016, 11:29:41 AM
There are only 7 story structures in all of humanity and they've all been used millions of times over. Even characters are rehashes at this point in history.

As the old idiom goes; there is nothing new under the sun.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on July 25, 2016, 11:33:53 AM
It just doesn't feel to me like it ages that well. There's still some stuff that's great--that Tim Conway/Harvey Korman sketch where they're dentist and dental patient, but a lot of it is so vaudeville in a way that doesn't have much purchase still.


Sure, there's some of it that's going to be very dependent on the times. But just about everything with Tim Conway is just goddamn genius, especially when he's riffing between himself and Korman or Burnett.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Yegolev on August 19, 2016, 08:25:47 PM
Jean Claude Van Johnson.  I like it but I feel dirty.

New Tick.  Same, perhaps.  I GUESS Serafinowicz is OK ... ugh.  Darker tone.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: apocrypha on September 07, 2016, 10:59:14 AM
After some discussion on Discord I watched the first episode of Bloodline last night.

Pros: Good acting, possibly interesting story.
Cons: Yet another show about rich people zzZZzZZzzZ, really mediocre camera work. Not bad, just entirely uninteresting. It's something I've not yet seen Netflix pull off at all. The only thing that comes to mind that was interestingly filmed was bits of Daredevil, with excellent use of low lighting levels and claustrophobic sets. They really need to start hiring some directors and camera people who know more than just routine point & shoot, maybe who know how to use a tripod or dolly.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Rasix on September 07, 2016, 11:20:07 AM
Batman: the Animated Series is on Amazon Prime.   :rock: :rock_hard: :hulk_rock: :yahoo: :Love_Letters:


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on September 07, 2016, 01:42:29 PM
So is Robotech: The Macross Saga.  :grin:

Though I'm sure that has not aged nearly as gracefully.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: rattran on September 10, 2016, 09:49:44 AM
You know you love some Minmei song attack.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on September 10, 2016, 12:30:07 PM
Even as a teenager, that shit made me cringe.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on September 12, 2016, 03:55:19 PM
Song attack sucked, but SDF1 punching a hole into the Zentradi ships? Khyron and Azonia plowing into the SDF1? Roy Fokker's Death. Ben's Death. Max and Miriya's arc. All epic stuff of teenage awesomeness.

But no, it doesn't hold up. Particularly the Minmei-Rick relationship early on. I got the DVDs when they released years ago and only watched them once. I just can't now, they're so campy and terrible compared to the Anime that came later.

Hell, even Voltron held-up better for me than Robotech and that's sad.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: apocrypha on September 23, 2016, 06:30:44 AM
Couple of shows I've been watching that I cba to make their own threads for.

Spotless: on Netflix, about a French ex-pat living in London who owns a small specialist cleaning company that deal with dead bodies and crime scenes, etc. Gets involved with gangsters. Pretty well done, best thing about it is that just about every single character in it is treated like a real person, with backstory and genuine motives. There's no throwaway cliche bit parts, they all feel like human beings. Liking it a lot.

The Get Down: Again on Netflix, the fictionalised tale of the birth of hip-hop in the South Bronx in the late 70s. It's a Baz Luhrmann production and the 1st episode is directed by him, so if you hate his stuff this won't be for you. Angry.torvald wouldn't like it, it's stars are all black people or women or sometimes both. Easy watching, a bit comic-book, but entertaining. Good music.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Xanthippe on October 28, 2016, 04:37:33 PM
I love Cops.

My daughter and I went through a Cops phase a few years ago. This was one of our favorite scenes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhrwC2BoAkE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhrwC2BoAkE)

Someone remixed it. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQTXawaAKNA)


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Xanthippe on October 28, 2016, 04:47:57 PM
I cannot imagine anyone making shows like the TV shows that I watched growing up. So politically incorrect. F-Troop. Get Smart. Hogan's Heroes. Yet as I recall, very funny.

I have no idea how they have held up over the years, though. I thought they were awfully funny at the time.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Selby on October 28, 2016, 06:12:02 PM
I have no idea how they have held up over the years, though. I thought they were awfully funny at the time.
It depends on the show. Some shows from way back when I've been rewatching (Dick Van Dyke) and it's still hilarious and even in some cases funnier now that I'm older. Other shows haven't necessarily aged well and are kind of hard to sit through, but even still some have some pretty laughable moments. General rule though is if it's a tv show that didn't last long back then because it wasn't too funny, time likely has not been kind and it's still pretty cringe worthy and you can see why it was canned after 1-2 seasons...


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Rasix on October 28, 2016, 06:16:03 PM
Most things with a laugh track don't hold up very well.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Abagadro on October 29, 2016, 02:35:42 AM
I love Cops.

My daughter and I went through a Cops phase a few years ago. This was one of our favorite scenes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhrwC2BoAkE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhrwC2BoAkE)

Someone remixed it. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQTXawaAKNA)
.
A&E has this thing now on Friday night called Live PD where they bounce around to live body cams on cops when "something is happening". It's bizarre.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Abagadro on October 29, 2016, 02:41:20 AM
I've become hooked on Forged in Fire.  It's basically Chopped but with blacksmiths making a knife in 6 hours with challenges. Then the top 2 go back to their home forges and make a historical weapon. It's on the History Channel. They test the weapon by hacking and slicing on all sorts of shit. It's hokey as hell, but I dig it.  I'm actually contemplating taking blacksmith classes I've become so enamored with it.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Der Helm on November 01, 2016, 07:15:21 PM
enamored
:awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Shannow on November 04, 2016, 11:09:59 PM
The Crown is some first class monarchy history porn.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Signe on November 09, 2016, 08:37:12 AM
I've become hooked on Forged in Fire.  It's basically Chopped but with blacksmiths making a knife in 6 hours with challenges. Then the top 2 go back to their home forges and make a historical weapon. It's on the History Channel. They test the weapon by hacking and slicing on all sorts of shit. It's hokey as hell, but I dig it.  I'm actually contemplating taking blacksmith classes I've become so enamored with it.

There's actually a show like this?  That's awesome.  I'll have to look it up for my brother in law... he'll love it.  I love shows where people make thingies.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Shannow on November 12, 2016, 10:27:39 AM
John Lithgow deserves an emmy and stuff for his portrayal of Winston Churchill. So damn good.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: lamaros on January 11, 2017, 05:26:40 PM
I'm 3ep in to Westworld. Not reading the thread for fear of spoilers. I feel it can go either way. Worth continuing?


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on January 11, 2017, 05:29:05 PM
Fuck yes.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Rasix on January 11, 2017, 05:29:36 PM
I'm 3ep in to Westworld. Not reading the thread for fear of spoilers. I feel it can go either way. Worth continuing?

Your tastes are odd (as much as I can recall), so I won't presume. I consider season 1 of Westworld to be the second best thing HBO has ever done. I'm including single seasons of Rome/Deadwood/Sopranos/GoT etc. Not better than The Wire. Well, maybe better than season 5.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: lamaros on January 12, 2017, 12:30:37 AM
Ok I'll keep watching.

I don't watch much TV, I'm picky. I find entertainment that makes me think or that I interact with in some way much better.

This is at least somewhat provocative to date. I'm just wary of it going all 'American' and trying to explain everything and being less about interesting questions and imagination.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: satael on January 12, 2017, 04:09:34 AM
Westworld is pretty good and the (first) season has a plot that gets resolved to the point where it wouldn't have been a total waste of time even if there wouldn't be a second season to look forward to.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Rasix on February 18, 2017, 08:52:31 PM
Just finished watching the first 3 seasons of "The Fall". Decent show overall, but really damn dark. The ending of the arc (they're going to do a 4th season, I think, with a new issue) was interesting, and not what I expected. It did not lighten the mood.  :awesome_for_real:

It was possibly a bit far up it's own ass at times with the non-subtle messaging and trying-too-hard cinematography, but was a really interesting look at all aspects of such a dire set of crimes. Gillian Anderson and Jamie Dornan are the stars and both do pretty damn well in their respective roles. 


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Signe on February 19, 2017, 12:20:35 PM
I'm up to date with "The Fall".  It was a bit depressing and sometimes felt a little slow, but I thought it was pretty brilliant, too.  I thought Gillian Anderson was the best she's ever been.  I had never seen Jamie Dornan before this show and I wonder why... he's very, very good. 


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: satael on March 22, 2017, 05:35:39 AM
Hap and Leonard (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3729898/) is back for the second season and it's awesome based on the first episode (but then again I'm a big fan of Lansdale's crime books so a bit biased).  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Rasix on March 24, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
Binged through Santa Clarita Diet (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5580540/). It was worth watching. Felt like it ended at a strange point, but it was a lot of fun. Olyphant and Barrymore are great in this. Unique take on the whole zombie genre. 

Also rewatching The Wire in between getting disappointed by other shows (Vikings, Arrow, Iron Fist). Still the best show ever and an excellent palate cleanser.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on April 25, 2017, 12:03:04 AM
The Black Company is coming TV with Eliza Dushku as The Lady.

I fear the worst. Its very upsetting. Shes a fucking black widow.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on April 25, 2017, 12:25:29 AM
Read recently the Wheel of Time TV series is going forward too. I'd ask "what next, wizards first rule?" But that already happened.

Everyone is desperate to find the next GOT and they're all going to suck in different ways.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Velorath on April 25, 2017, 05:05:28 AM
The Black Company is coming TV with Eliza Dushku as The Lady.

I fear the worst. Its very upsetting. Shes a fucking black widow.

I'd be more worried about Goyer's involvement since the only times he's made anything good is when he's riding on the shoulders of guys like del Toro and Nolan.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on April 25, 2017, 12:41:28 PM
The Black Company is coming TV with Eliza Dushku as The Lady.

I fear the worst. Its very upsetting. Shes a fucking black widow.

I'd be more worried about Goyer's involvement since the only times he's made anything good is when he's riding on the shoulders of guys like del Toro and Nolan.
When I think about things like that I think about DB Weiss' lack of credentials when he started on Game of Thrones and that I was the only person, I think, on Earth that read his freshman effort.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: tar on April 25, 2017, 05:18:49 PM
The Black Company is coming TV with Eliza Dushku as The Lady.

I fear the worst. Its very upsetting. Shes a fucking black widow.

What. The. Fuck. She can't act. I could throw a dart down the street and hit a better choice. There's literally thousands of better choices.

...I would love to be proved wrong, but yeah, let's be realistic.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Cyrrex on May 04, 2017, 08:26:24 AM
Why did I make it this far in life and nobody ever told me how great Arrested Development is?  Directing this at the universe in general.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on May 04, 2017, 04:13:04 PM
Why did I make it this far in life and nobody ever told me how great Arrested Development is?  Directing this at the universe in general.

people won't shut the fuck about it to the point its attained legend status and has become completely overrated

the fuck you talking about?


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Cyrrex on May 04, 2017, 11:57:35 PM
I somehow don't frequent those circles, but this is true of most pop culture.  I literally knew not one thing about this show two weeks ago, other than that it existed.  Wouldn't have been able to even name one actor.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on May 05, 2017, 12:35:14 AM
Those circles?

That circle is The Whole Internet. Somehow avoiding praise for Arrested Development makes me thing you live in a hole on the side of some mountain that exists on no map.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Cyrrex on May 05, 2017, 12:56:36 AM
Yeah, it's called Denmark, only there are no mountains.  You probably didn't remember that I live in Europe, so I will assume you are not making the traditional American mistake of assuming that we are all exposed to the same cultural phenomena all the time.

Also, I keep my internet circle extremely small, which could be an interesting topic of discussion, only probably not.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on May 05, 2017, 03:41:55 AM
In fairness, I only recently (last 2 months) watched AD and I knew NOTHING of it previously.

There are circles and circles, I suspect.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Cyrrex on May 05, 2017, 03:56:35 AM
See?  And Ironwood is way more hip than I am.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on May 05, 2017, 04:12:42 AM
Oh Dear.  That's your argument ?  We're gonna lose this one.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Pennilenko on May 05, 2017, 09:35:31 AM
You two lost the minute he wrote the word hip to describe you.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on May 05, 2017, 09:37:15 AM
That's what I just said ?


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on May 05, 2017, 10:48:50 AM
are we all not accessing the same internet?


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Bungee on May 05, 2017, 10:59:24 AM
are we all not accessing the same internet?

How much you heard about Baahubali 2? Because that shit is all over the internet. If you're in India.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on May 05, 2017, 11:10:01 AM
That would be an excellent response if any culture were as exported or pervasive as American culture, particularly on the internet.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Bungee on May 05, 2017, 11:11:10 AM
You probably didn't remember that I live in Europe, so I will assume you are not making the traditional American mistake of assuming that we are all exposed to the same cultural phenomena all the time.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on May 05, 2017, 11:25:05 AM
THIS GIF HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 14 YEARS

(http://i.imgur.com/PLTZJRh.gif)


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Bungee on May 05, 2017, 11:35:28 AM
There's a lot of GIFs and references commonly used on the internet that at least I don't know the origin of or where - knowing the origin - I felt compelled to dive deeper into that origin. If you watched every movie/series/... there's a popular GIF of... Well, I don't do that.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Mandella on May 05, 2017, 11:59:25 AM
Why did I make it this far in life and nobody ever told me how great Arrested Development is?  Directing this at the universe in general.

I had the opposite problem -- it was overhyped to me and when I watched the first episode (many years ago) I was distinctly unimpressed -- a family full of despicable people with one guy set to be the "everyman" viewer proxy who would have to good-naturedly deal with their shenanigans every week. Yawn.

Yeah. Recently I decided to give it another chance and watched a few more shows in. Whups! Yep, brilliant. Especially when you realize that Michael is just as fucked up as the rest of his family, just with a better heart, maybe.

Even my wife is hooked, and she usually hates "those kind of shows."


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Cyrrex on May 05, 2017, 12:47:35 PM
Never seen that gif!

Seriously though, it is this way with a lot of things.  I vaguely remember hearing about AD back when it was a thing, but living in Europe at the time meant that it was probably off limits to me so there was no reason to really even give it a thought.  This is true of MOST American television, it might surprise you to find out.  Why pay attention to something you can't easily access?  Some of the good stuff (and a lot of the bad stuff) will make it to our version of Netflix and similar services eventually, but not only do we have no control over that, but as is the case with AD it might take 10 years.

So.  This is the part where I mention that I never watched Big Bang Theory, for basically the same reasons.  Same would be true for tons of hit American shows.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Goldenmean on May 05, 2017, 01:29:57 PM
When I think about things like that I think about DB Weiss' lack of credentials when he started on Game of Thrones and that I was the only person, I think, on Earth that read his freshman effort.

Minor thread necromancy just to comment that I absolutely loved Lucky Wander Boy, and somehow managed to avoid connecting that it was the same person show running Game of Thrones until like a week ago, and ever since I learned that have been mildly annoyed because it means that he'll probably never go back to writing books.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Teleku on June 28, 2017, 12:38:37 PM
Maybe they'll have him finish the last Thrones book after Martin baconators himself 6 feet under.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Cyrrex on June 29, 2017, 12:32:29 AM
Rasix mentioned it earlier in the thread, but if you haven't watched Santa Clarita Diet, it is highly recommended.  Really funny.  Barrymore is good, and Timothy Olyphant is great.  Supporting cast, especially the kids, also great.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: calapine on July 21, 2017, 12:44:31 PM
I am avoiding the GoT thread as I couldn't watch the episode yet, but here is:


Littlefinger recaps season 6 in five minutes (https://youtu.be/DzrLtBC7wXc)


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Cyrrex on July 24, 2017, 03:23:20 AM
Need some ideas for some good situation comedy on Netflix.  Wife and I are getting to the end of a Modern Family run and looking to find something to replace it.  Suggestions?  Looking for something in a similar vein.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on July 27, 2017, 04:41:47 AM
That probably requires knowing what you've already watched.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: satael on July 27, 2017, 07:02:53 AM
Salvation (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6170874/) is a horrible example how to totally ruin an interesting idea (asteroid on course to hit earth) with stupid writing.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on July 27, 2017, 09:27:59 AM
Need some ideas for some good situation comedy on Netflix.  Wife and I are getting to the end of a Modern Family run and looking to find something to replace it.  Suggestions?  Looking for something in a similar vein.

Ok, so I've got two that you may or may not have watched.

1) The Middle - While I never personally got into The Middle it was ok the times I did catch an episode. I'm not big on family comedies but it was entertaining enough I didn't turn it off.
2) Raising Hope - This show never got the praise I think it should have. It's by the guy who did My Name is Earl (and has some callbacks there at times) It's the lower-class version of shows like Modern Family.

This assumes you've already watched the other standards like The Office, Arrested Development, 30 Rock, Parks & Rec, The Office, It's Always Sunny, Scrubs, and Malcom in the Middle.

Malcom always deserves a re-watch if you haven't seen it in years. I think I'll start that myself this week.



Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Cyrrex on July 27, 2017, 09:48:45 AM
Need some ideas for some good situation comedy on Netflix.  Wife and I are getting to the end of a Modern Family run and looking to find something to replace it.  Suggestions?  Looking for something in a similar vein.

Ok, so I've got two that you may or may not have watched.

1) The Middle - While I never personally got into The Middle it was ok the times I did catch an episode. I'm not big on family comedies but it was entertaining enough I didn't turn it off.
2) Raising Hope - This show never got the praise I think it should have. It's by the guy who did My Name is Earl (and has some callbacks there at times) It's the lower-class version of shows like Modern Family.

This assumes you've already watched the other standards like The Office, Arrested Development, 30 Rock, Parks & Rec, The Office, It's Always Sunny, Scrubs, and Malcom in the Middle.

Malcom always deserves a re-watch if you haven't seen it in years. I think I'll start that myself this week.



Thanks, I'll add those to the list of possibilities.  Being in filthy Euroland, I have actually seen virtually none of those, save AD (and that only recently).


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on July 27, 2017, 09:51:23 AM
Oh! I forgot you were a Euro. Then yeah, all of that list.

Hell, if you're able to slog through early 90's tropes then Married With Children is a must. Ed O'Neil in Modern Family is an older Al Bundy who's learned to feel in his 2nd marriage.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on July 27, 2017, 09:51:40 AM
I would second the recommendation for Raising Hope. It's hilarious from start to finish, Garret Dillahunt is amazing in the Dad's role and you get to see Elsie from Westworld in a comedic role.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Bunk on July 27, 2017, 10:20:39 AM
Community would be my recommendation, though I'd probably stop at the end of Season 3.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Signe on July 27, 2017, 10:46:57 AM
For some reason I've been itching to watch Northern Exposure again.  I only saw it the one time back in the 90s and really loved it. 


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on July 29, 2017, 09:42:47 AM
It was brilliant.   And then wasn't.  Much like Due South.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Khaldun on July 29, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
Man, Due South. Exactly right--fucking out of the park great and then suddenly boom! it sucked.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Signe on August 01, 2017, 05:13:04 PM
Speaking of Stephen King... does anyone know anything about that alleged "Castlerock" series that's supposed to be airing on Hulu at some point in the near/far/never future?


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: calapine on August 29, 2017, 11:33:19 AM
Can someone give me a spoiler-free review of the latest GoT season? I haven't seen a single episode due to not being at home!

Will I like it?


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on August 29, 2017, 01:40:05 PM
Do you like Dragons burning things?

IF so, yes.

If not, give it a pass.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Rasix on August 30, 2017, 12:56:35 AM
Can someone give me a spoiler-free review of the latest GoT season? I haven't seen a single episode due to not being at home!

Will I like it?

Don't think too much about things. Lots of stuff happens. Some of it sucks, some of it doesn't.

Also, Westeros is tiny.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on August 30, 2017, 01:57:57 AM
It takes less time to travel across westeros on foot than it does Rhode island in a car, on a Sunday, with no traffic during the summer.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: calapine on August 30, 2017, 02:13:11 AM
Roger. Thanks. I'll see to find someone willing to rewatch the season with me. (Alone feels lonely. Also good to have someone to rant to in "Omg, what bullshit. This is totally out of character, what where the writers thinking, such bullshit, this is Battlestar Galactica season 4 all over again."-type situations.


OTOH hand, stopping to watch when Cersei is queen and most st did definitely will have a long and fruitful reign ahead of her might be not so stupid either....


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on August 30, 2017, 02:14:54 AM
Cersei has been turned into a conniving Trump figure and the entire season was preachy nonsense morality hokum, if we're being honest.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Teleku on August 30, 2017, 02:34:59 AM
What do the Dragons represent in this analogy?  Bourgeois?  Antifa?  Ethics in gaming journalism?


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: calapine on August 30, 2017, 05:00:43 AM
Since the Dragons are servants of a mistress... Maybe they symbolize the Main Stream Media in it's 3 incarnations print news, TV and Hollywood.

Daneris could be George Soros (Jews=Valyrians) or maybe a Genderqueer femimazi. In this picture the Tagyerians represent the Romans, who on their height went decadent (gay, adultery) and who thus invited their downfall (Cataulsm ia a stand in for Babarians). She is destroying the old order, with help of castrated men (=representing the modern metrosexual feminist cuck). Her eyebrows not matching her head hair is a subtle hint towards that her womaness isn't really real. cf Karl Drogo taking her from behind (another hint).

Her desire to "break", in other words desconstruct, the wheel is an analogy for the corrosive effect postmodern Marxist cultural studies have on traditional societies. Her rise and thus return of the Taygerians symbolizes the danger of America becoming decatent Rome.

Unless she is stopped by a white cis Man, who forgot and first must remember his birthright as leader, this is symbolzed by Jon Snow thinking he is a worthless bastard.

Edit: I hope it is clear all of the above was greentext


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on August 30, 2017, 09:26:58 AM
the dragons were just dragons


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Rasix on August 31, 2017, 02:37:32 PM
Started watching Shameless.  I've made it through 2 seasons and the first couple episodes of 3.  I'm not sure this is worth continuing to watch despite the somewhat interesting drama, comedy, and frequently nude Emmy Rossum. 

It's just so depressing and most of the characters are despicable. Frank Gallagher is beyond putrid as a human being. The most satisfying parts of the show are when he's physically harmed.

Anyone make it through the entire series and recommend a good stopping point? I've heard the last few seasons get even more depressing.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on September 01, 2017, 02:41:02 PM
The ex loved the show.

That's all I needed to know about not continuing to watch.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on September 13, 2017, 08:34:50 AM
Ok, help me out ;  I've now watched 3 episodes of Tin Star and it's just fucking awful.

Is it worth it to continue ?  I haven't felt this bad about a show since Fortitude.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on September 13, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
I didn't even know that show existed. I'd be interested for Tim Roth alone unless you're telling me it sucks.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on September 13, 2017, 10:17:17 AM
I think it has potential, but thus far it's pretentious pish.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: MahrinSkel on September 15, 2017, 11:44:52 PM
So I've been catching up on Midnight, Texas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight,_Texas_(TV_series)): It's not horrible, although it does take the supernatural milieu straight to 11. Only 3 episodes in, but I'm going to keep working through it.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Mandella on September 16, 2017, 10:36:42 AM
So okay, I noticed Colony was pretty highly rated on its network, so I watched the first pilot episode.

I found it pretty bad. Now, I know plenty of shows that got better as they went on, so is anybody watching this and can tell me if the same is true here? Cause I thought the pilot was a turgid mess of indifferent acting and outworn tropes.

I'd like to avoid spoilers other than that though.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: MahrinSkel on September 19, 2017, 11:30:24 PM
So I've been catching up on Midnight, Texas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight,_Texas_(TV_series)): It's not horrible, although it does take the supernatural milieu straight to 11. Only 3 episodes in, but I'm going to keep working through it.

--Dave
So I finished it...It got better for a while, then the last two episodes were one whiplash ass-pull unearned plot device after another. It was likely they originally plotted it for 13 episodes, and had to compress the last 6 into 2.5.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on September 20, 2017, 04:09:27 AM
So, just to keep you updated, Tin Star finally let Roth out the box for episodes 5 and 6 and he was GLORIOUS.  Alas, the rest of it is still utter keich, but if you like Roth, you'll like those episodes.  I suspect the rest of the season is only going to let him out more until it culminates in the usual banshee style blood bath.

Still not worth it if you don't like Roth.


Edited ;  For Gods Sake, Don't watch this.  Finished it.  It's utterly terrible.



Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on September 30, 2017, 12:03:09 AM
Tim Roth is one of my favorite actors ever, mostly due to Legend of 1900 which is the best movie barely anyone has seen.

This looks like shit.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: MrHat on October 01, 2017, 07:28:33 PM
Tim Roth is one of my favorite actors ever, mostly due to Legend of 1900 which is the best movie barely anyone has seen.

This looks like shit.

He made Lie to Me.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: MahrinSkel on October 01, 2017, 07:51:42 PM
Tim Roth is one of my favorite actors ever, mostly due to Legend of 1900 which is the best movie barely anyone has seen.

This looks like shit.
They had a really good concept, a good twist...and then spent the last 3 episodes passing the Idiot Ball around.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on October 01, 2017, 08:57:29 PM
Tim Roth is one of my favorite actors ever, mostly due to Legend of 1900 which is the best movie barely anyone has seen.

This looks like shit.

He made Lie to Me.
He never should've wasted his time with Lie to Me (still watched all of it).


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on October 02, 2017, 05:09:17 AM
Tim Roth is one of my favorite actors ever, mostly due to Legend of 1900 which is the best movie barely anyone has seen.

This looks like shit.

It was.  I'm utterly serious here chaps ;  I watched this so YOU DON'T HAVE TO.  If I catch anyone watching this, I'll take it personally because otherwise I've wasted hours of my life.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: MrHat on October 02, 2017, 08:54:00 AM
Tim Roth is one of my favorite actors ever, mostly due to Legend of 1900 which is the best movie barely anyone has seen.

This looks like shit.

He made Lie to Me.
He never should've wasted his time with Lie to Me (still watched all of it).

Exactly what I meant.  Just watching him be fucking bored of people's bullshit was worth the time spent.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Abagadro on October 26, 2017, 02:03:23 AM
Been watching The Equalizer again (was a big fan in its original run).  Very 80s but a good show and its amazing the people who show up on it that went on to greater things. Woodward is totally boss too.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: satael on October 26, 2017, 02:18:11 AM
Been watching The Equalizer again (was a big fan in its original run).  Very 80s but a good show and its amazing the people who show up on it that went on to greater things. Woodward is totally boss too.

The theme music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g87nDBIyqeU) on that was awesome too.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on October 26, 2017, 02:23:55 AM
Interesting. I too have been watching the equalizer, but for some reason they call it 'person of interest' these days. Its quite good and a surprise Amy Acker has appeared. I like the dog.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Abagadro on October 26, 2017, 12:59:35 PM
Last ep I watched had Kevin Spacey in it. His second earliest imdb entry.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Signe on October 28, 2017, 03:54:06 PM
Actually, no, Person of Interest has reincarnated into Wisdom of the Crowd.  I wish they had just not canceled Person of Interest since it was a much better show.  Both CBS, too.  The only thing I didn't much like in Person of Interest was Fred.  I didn't like her in Angel, either.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on October 31, 2017, 08:10:04 AM
I like her though.

I'm really, really liking this show.  Also, since I came to it late, it has an end, so I can just graze on it liberally.

I really love the dog.



Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on November 01, 2017, 11:17:04 AM
I enjoyed the show up until Amy Acker's character became a regular. At that point I felt it really jumped the shark and I couldn't enjoy it as much. There was also one event I realized killed my interest in the show, but not knowing where you're at I won't discuss.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on November 05, 2017, 07:34:05 AM
Holy shit, they killed Carter.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Merusk on November 05, 2017, 03:52:06 PM
There it is. I didn't want to say too much, but yeah. That's where the whole show shifted for me and I lost interest. It wasn't the same after that.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on November 05, 2017, 04:27:13 PM
But in fairness, at least they're not dicking around anymore with vagueness ;  it's an AI.  Only Harold seems to be resistant to the idea at this point.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on November 05, 2017, 07:10:10 PM
Carter went over to her own show. They didn't kill Carter. Carter killed Carter


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Mandella on November 11, 2017, 09:12:26 PM
I enjoyed the show up until Amy Acker's character became a regular. At that point I felt it really jumped the shark and I couldn't enjoy it as much. There was also one event I realized killed my interest in the show, but not knowing where you're at I won't discuss.

I found the show to be super tedious until Amy Acker's character became a regular. At that point the show really picked up and became consistently enjoyable.

Thus proving myself to be the anti-Merusk.

Also, yeah, the actress that played Carter jumped ship to Empire. Which suited me fine -- I wasn't a fan.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Trippy on November 13, 2017, 03:06:40 PM
Amazon making a The Lord of the Rings prequel show: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2316587
Quote
“We are delighted that Amazon, with its longstanding commitment to literature, is the home of the first-ever multi-season television series for The Lord of the Rings,” said Matt Galsor, a representative for the Tolkien Estate and Trust and HarperCollins. “Sharon and the team at Amazon Studios have exceptional ideas to bring to the screen previously unexplored stories based on J.R.R. Tolkien’s original writings.”

Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new storylines preceding J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Fellowship of the Ring. The deal includes a potential additional spin-off series.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: schild on November 13, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
God that won't be slow and boring at all.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on November 14, 2017, 05:51:28 AM
Why ?  Why do this ?  Surely Hobbit movies killed this one stone dead ?


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: satael on November 14, 2017, 11:24:24 AM
They probably paid far too much for the rights since Netflix was also interested. I wish they'd do series based on something like Robin Hobb's books instead.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on November 14, 2017, 11:58:39 AM
Why ?  Why do this ?  Surely Hobbit movies killed this one stone dead ?

Because at least half of all movie/tv execs greenlighting things are marketing cobblefucks that could not imagine making a property that wasn't already a well-known IP.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Phildo on November 14, 2017, 04:08:22 PM
I would probably watch "Silmarillion!  The Musical"


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: MahrinSkel on November 14, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
Keeping up with the Kardashians is in its 14th season. Fuck.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Selby on November 15, 2017, 05:12:18 AM
My ex was making me watch that trash before our kiddo was born. That was 11 years ago...


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: satael on December 03, 2017, 02:12:25 AM
ALTERED CARBON Official Trailer TEASER (2018) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV8YovA4yzE)

I'm looking forward to this as a fan of the books.  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on December 03, 2017, 03:52:07 AM
Oh Yeah.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: satael on December 21, 2017, 12:43:42 AM
‘Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency’ Canceled At BBC America (https://deadline.com/2017/12/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-canceled-bbc-america-1202229367/). While the second season wasn't as good as the first I still enjoyed it for what it was.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Mandella on December 21, 2017, 09:21:17 PM
‘Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency’ Canceled At BBC America (https://deadline.com/2017/12/dirk-gentlys-holistic-detective-agency-canceled-bbc-america-1202229367/). While the second season wasn't as good as the first I still enjoyed it for what it was.

And this is the first time I've heard of it. I liked the book, so guess I'll add it to the queue.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Shannow on December 23, 2017, 06:09:38 AM
Marvelous Miss Maisel on Amazon Prime is pretty good.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Engels on January 05, 2018, 12:02:38 PM
Korean Horror/fantasy soap opera named 'Black' on Netflix is kinda amazing. It's hokey, charming, horrifying, sad and hilarious. I've not finished it, only onto episode 9 of 18 and I'm not sure they can keep the drama fresh, but so far so good.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Rasix on January 08, 2018, 10:54:03 AM
Binged through "End of the F***ing World" (their edit, not mine) on Netflix. Well worth watching as it was really well acted and paced. Maybe a bit too fast, as it's only about 8 20 minute episodes, but nothing of it felt wasted. Emotionally heavy and quite sad, but not oppressively.  Plus, it's got Yara from GoT in it.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: MahrinSkel on January 11, 2018, 11:48:26 PM
X-Files is back, and I am pretty sure that Chris Carter is just phoning in shit from the rejected script pile of the original run. They *literally* turned the entirety of the 10th season into a coma hallucination in the first 2 minutes of the 11th, then Mulder spent the rest of the episode narrating his existential angst while driving.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Mandella on January 12, 2018, 12:16:51 AM
X-Files is back, and I am pretty sure that Chris Carter is just phoning in shit from the rejected script pile of the original run. They *literally* turned the entirety of the 10th season into a coma hallucination in the first 2 minutes of the 11th, then Mulder spent the rest of the episode narrating his existential angst while driving.

--Dave

Good. 10th season was horrible, and needed to be blamed on a gas leak or something.

Unfortunately I have no faith that 11th will be any better, and in fact unless I hear some really glowing reviews I'm not even going to bother.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on January 12, 2018, 08:57:46 AM
The X-Files premiere was fucking dire. Chris Carter is trolling the fans now.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Engels on January 16, 2018, 11:09:38 AM
On a positive note, and I'm not sure it doesn't deserve its own thread, Netflix has come out with a Japanese 'live action' series based on an anime series named "Erased". Its essentially a time-travel rewind the past to correct the present type tale but that's not doing it justice. If you enjoy good anime stories like Mushishi or Full Metal Alchemist which combines a blend of the brutal realities of child abuse and murder with the most gentle and sweet interactions between characters to make a devastating concoction, this may be for you.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on January 17, 2018, 03:51:50 AM
Er, sounds good, I guess.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: lamaros on January 22, 2018, 10:01:13 PM
I'm looking for a new crime/detective series to watch, but at this point I think I've seen them all - at least all the British ones. Do the US have any decent ones on offer, or are they all CSI style rubbish?


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Trippy on January 23, 2018, 11:55:04 AM
Elementary?

Edit: there's also Life which is one of my favorite shows.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: lamaros on January 23, 2018, 07:46:25 PM
Elementary?

Edit: there's also Life which is one of my favorite shows.


Alas, I've watched them both. Elementary went a bit off the rails for me (UK Sherlock tho).


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Father mike on January 24, 2018, 11:05:32 PM
"Castle" was a pretty good procedural, up until they stopped being episodic and tried to have season arcs.  It had a cutsey twist to make it stand out, and Nathan Fillion is fun.

"Forever" was decent.  Its shtick was an immortal who worked as a coroner for the NYPD.  only one season, tho.

These are network crime dramas -- they're pretty tame.  If you're looking for edgier, NetFlix/HBO dramas, you may find these a little dull.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on January 25, 2018, 09:53:18 AM
The Bridge was a pretty decent FX cop show that lasted 2 seasons about a Mexican cop and an American DEA agent, based on I think a Finnish or Swedish show of the same name.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Abagadro on January 28, 2018, 01:42:13 AM
Great cast and my first introduction to Damien Bashir.  Kruger and Buffalo Bill were great too.   The show actually got better in the second season after they ditched trying to remake the Scandinavian original series (Franka Potente was wild).   I think if this was on AMC it would have kept going and found an audience. FX too quick on the trigger.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: lamaros on January 28, 2018, 03:41:48 AM
Yeah, we watched some of the scandi original, and the UK remake (the Tunnel), but not the US one. I wasn't sold on it. I prefer the more mystery side of these things, rather than the drama or thriller aspects (I dislike Broadchurch for example, as it's pretty much just a soap opera).

Never given Castle a go though, will look it up.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Khaldun on January 28, 2018, 09:48:29 AM
Castle is amusing, though it eventually wears out its welcome.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on January 28, 2018, 11:51:13 AM
It's not exactly a cop drama, but all 3 seasons of Fargo are goddamn excellent.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Sir T on January 28, 2018, 11:55:11 AM
Castle is Nathan Fillion being Nathan Fillion. If you find him amusing you will enjoy it for a couple of seasons. If you don't then pass.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on January 30, 2018, 11:42:57 AM
If you like documentaries, Alex Gibney has a new series on Netflix called Dirty Money, specifically about different ways big businesses are fucking the shit out of people. The first episode of 6 is about Volkswagen's emissions standards defeat device and the prevalence of European car manufacturers (and really US ones too) using defeat devices to lie to regulators about the pollution from diesel cars. I've only watched that first one but it's good.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: jgsugden on February 22, 2018, 09:25:44 AM
What Freshman shows reallyvvstuck the Season 1 landing in the last few years? Way too many good shows fall apart withb3 episodes to go... I'm looking for a few that end strong.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Abagadro on February 25, 2018, 03:43:34 AM
I watched 5 hours of a MASH marathon tonight.  Seen every episode like 10 times before back in the 80s when it was on 3 times a day. Was like putting on a nice, well-worn shoe.  I am old.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: MrHat on February 25, 2018, 09:26:33 AM
I watched 5 hours of a MASH marathon tonight.  Seen every episode like 10 times before back in the 80s when it was on 3 times a day. Was like putting on a nice, well-worn shoe.  I am old.

How did it hold up? We've done something similar but with Golden Girls.  It really holds up except for the fact that the ladies are in their late 50s in the show and thats.not.that.far.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Abagadro on February 25, 2018, 06:35:31 PM
Pretty well. It was late period MASH which is hit or miss for me (l like CEWIII a lot but  the show gets very Klinger heavy which gets old) but it was a very well made and written show with some real gems even in the last few years.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Khaldun on February 26, 2018, 06:47:22 AM
I felt the opposite re-watching a couple of episodes recently. Unbearably twee.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: rattran on February 26, 2018, 08:46:25 AM
Later seasons of MASH veer from farce to maudlin. Doesn't bear up to rewatching for me. I've been watching some old westerns on H&I and while the plots are simplistic, they're still enjoyable for the most part (Rawhide, Wanted Dead or Alive, Have Gun Will Travel)


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Tale on February 27, 2018, 06:39:56 PM
Living Biblically (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a5OaxWEOxI) is apparently a real CBS comedy series. I don't think I've ever seen a worse trailer.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on February 27, 2018, 09:16:39 PM
Well that looks horrifying.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: MrHat on February 28, 2018, 10:27:59 AM
It puts the FUN in Fundamentalist.

If you didn't click on that link, that is the actual marketing for it.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Abagadro on March 12, 2018, 02:02:21 AM
I felt the opposite re-watching a couple of episodes recently. Unbearably twee.


Really depends on the episode. Watched "Life Time" tonight (for some reason been watching this show a lot lately) which is Season 8 and is quite brilliant IMO. Guy has his aorta shot out and they have a clock running in the corner while they wait for another guy to die to get a graft. 


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on March 13, 2018, 06:49:09 AM
Uh, he has his Aorta shot out ?

That sounds like a short fucking timer.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Engels on March 16, 2018, 02:18:56 PM
Watching "Ministry of Time" on netflix. Its a spanish sci-fi show that's quite good. Its sorta Dr. Who-ish in intent. The premise is that Spain has a bunch of portals to various places in time, and there's a secret government agency who manages it, named, stunningly, the Ministry of Time. Their job is to ensure that Spain's glorious history proceeds without interruption. Of course, there are evil time travelers who try to steal Guernica, get Lope De Vega killed, sabotage Dali's education, etc. Its very dramatic and filled with heartache, pain, lust, tragedy, death, and an assortment of strategically placed boobs.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: pxib on March 23, 2018, 01:42:31 AM
Meanwhile on... Youtube Red: Cobra Kai (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwwxNbtK6Y)

Low budget, cornball, and at least 13 years too late.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Abagadro on March 23, 2018, 02:57:17 AM
Seems like it is actually buying into the theory that Daniel is the villain of the original. Love it.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Shannow on March 23, 2018, 06:03:40 AM
Meanwhile on... Youtube Red: Cobra Kai (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwwxNbtK6Y)

Low budget, cornball, and at least 13 years too late.


pfft looks awesome


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Ironwood on March 23, 2018, 07:01:11 AM
Seems like it is actually buying into the theory that Daniel is the villain of the original. Love it.

Illegal kicking motherfucker.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on March 23, 2018, 10:32:20 AM
That looks hysterical.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: pxib on March 24, 2018, 01:37:41 AM
MEANWHILE IN THE WORLD OF CHINESE PUPPETRY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WTOaGLSSXE)


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Teleku on March 24, 2018, 11:02:56 AM
Uh, they’re speaking Japanese.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: HaemishM on March 24, 2018, 11:46:59 AM
All I can think of is "MATT... DAMON."


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: pxib on March 25, 2018, 03:38:53 AM
Uh, they’re speaking Japanese.
Yes, but it's Chinese glove puppetry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glove_puppetry) as opposed to marionettes, shadow puppets, or Bunraku.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Trippy on March 25, 2018, 03:50:22 AM
It's also recorded in three languages: Mandarin, Taiwanese and Japanese. The characters all have Chinese names too.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Teleku on March 25, 2018, 11:26:35 AM
Saw that they had Chinese names, but kept hearing Japanese so figured it was one of their shows.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: satael on April 22, 2018, 12:37:20 AM
I just watched Hap & Leonard season 3 and I thought it was really good (far better than season 2). I really hope they do another season despite the low numbers.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Father mike on May 31, 2018, 05:14:44 PM
All five seasons of Babylon 5 are coming to Amazon Prime in June.

I know most of the series doesn't deserve the pedestal that geekdom has placed it on, but there are quite a few episodes in seasons 2-4 I'll gladly rewatch.

Edit: I can't calendar today.


Title: Re: Useless TV
Post by: Shannow on June 17, 2018, 09:02:26 PM
Amazon passed on an Old Kingdom/Sabriel TV series co-written by the author. Fools!

Pilot has been written, now shopping to other networks.