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Title: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: luckton on April 14, 2015, 07:00:09 AM
http://www.wowhead.com/news=247149/6-2-ptr-patch-notes

- New outdoor questine zone--Tanaan Jungle. Access it by constructing a Shipyard in your Level 3 Garrison.
- The Shipyard lets you dispatch ships on Naval Missions.
- Hellfire Citadel is the new raid, featuring Kilrogg, Gorefiend, Archimonde, and more!
- Dungeons have a new difficulty--Mythic. They drop gear which is ilvl 680-700. This difficulty is on a weekly lockout.
- Players can finish the legendary ring quest line in 6.2.
- New Darkmoon Potions and Fishing at the Faire.
- Challenge Mode daily quests reward ilvl 680 gear, up from 660.
- Lightforge Heirloom plate armor pieces have been added for helm ( Pristine Lightforge Helm), chest ( Pristine Lightforge Breastplate), and legs ( Pristine Lightforge Legplates)to complete the Intellect plate set.
- Apexis Crystals no longer have a cap.
- Glyph of Ice Runes, Aspect of the Fox, and Amplify Magic have been removed.

And a shit ton of new models that make everything, well,  :awesome_for_real:

I mean, look at this new Felhunter. (http://www.wowhead.com/news=247147/6-2-ptr-build-19890-hellfire-citadel-maps-3d-models-new-mounts#modelviewer:1:63225:0:10+0)


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Merusk on April 14, 2015, 09:01:15 AM
People still do Apexis crystal dailies enough to hit the cap? Why?

Also: Removing Aspect of the Fox and Amp Magic? Why, it wasn't like those made encounters super easy. Made them more manageable, yes, but it wasn't trivializing anything.  Incredibly dumb.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Mithas on April 14, 2015, 09:45:21 AM
I've gotten burned out more quickly on this expansion more than any previous. I'm not even sure why. I felt like the overall feel of it was pretty good. As a casual there are more things to do now than ever. Been playing this game for 10 years, it is probably time to hang it up.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Merusk on April 14, 2015, 10:30:17 AM
If you're like me, then you got burned out because the things to do are chunked out into a lot of very tiny tasks. Instead of fewer big goals. If you've got a lot of alts, that means things get tedious really quickly because you think, "Shit, I already did this."

I can't stand to run LFR on more than one character because it's chunked out into 4 separate queues.  Trying to do garrison tasks just becomes a chore because there's a minimum of 4 things to do on each character, up to as many as 12 'little' tasks in each garrison a day. 


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Ironwood on April 14, 2015, 11:21:24 AM
Yes.  That's precisely it for me.

When you're doing 'stuff' and thinking 'wouldn't it be nice if doing this stuff did the stuff for all the alts that need the stuff' then something's very wrong.

The Garrison should have been an account thing.  After all, look at heirlooms and pets.  They work very well now.

Garrisons ?  Not so much.



Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Setanta on April 15, 2015, 05:28:57 PM
I just gave up on garrison. I have 700 salvage boxes to open and even just running missions on all 11 characters is too much. Admittedly all my characters geared up to 650 without actually leaving the garrison. I haven't done every heroic, not even on my tank which raids.

The game was fun leveling the first time but I found that the garrison actually discourages getting out into the real world. Admittedly the salvage chests dis make me over 300K gold in vendoring shit but I also found that it kept me supplied with raw materials so that I didn't need to skin, mine, pick flowers etc.



Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Xanthippe on April 16, 2015, 09:05:38 AM
The Garrison should have been an account thing.  After all, look at heirlooms and pets.  They work very well now.

Exactly.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Merusk on April 16, 2015, 10:14:04 AM
The removal of Fox and Amp Magic now, in the middle of an X-pac, leads me to believe they're into shifting designer syndrome and there's someone new at the wheel or in charge of the clusterfuck that is their process.  Perhaps we'll see a shift in Garrisons as well in the future. 

Although they're more likely to be abandoned, just like the farm which could have been integrated into Garrisons.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Xanthippe on April 16, 2015, 11:12:33 AM
If the farm was integrated into garrisons, it would have been yet another chore to drive people away.

But if the garrisons were per account, or per faction/account, then it would have been terrific.

I gave up on my horde garrisons/characters. More than two garrisons is too much to deal with for me. Two becomes too chore-like. I don't even like to gather on both of them.

Edited to add: Anyone running multiple garrisons ought to use the Master Plan add on from Curse. It streamlines garrison missions nicely.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Merusk on April 16, 2015, 01:07:01 PM
Oh without a doubt.  If they had farms I'd have expected it to be faction/ account.. which would make life so much easier now if done that way.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Rokal on April 16, 2015, 01:30:52 PM
The removal of Fox and Amp Magic now, in the middle of an X-pac, leads me to believe they're into shifting designer syndrome and there's someone new at the wheel or in charge of the clusterfuck that is their process.  Perhaps we'll see a shift in Garrisons as well in the future. 

Although they're more likely to be abandoned, just like the farm which could have been integrated into Garrisons.  :awesome_for_real:

They're making pretty enormous changes for a few classes including Brewmasters. Lots more shifting to passive mitigation instead of active. Primary Chi spend no longer provides any defensive benefit. etc.

Really wish they'd just waited until the next xpac before making all these big changes. At this rate I'm not really interested in playing the class.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Xanthippe on April 16, 2015, 01:36:11 PM
One thing about this expansion, it sure seems like the expansion for tanks. They're completely broken in early dungeons - I don't think Blizz even tries anymore to balance those. My druid tank that I'm leveling almost always has the highest dps in groups - like way highest, double the next one.

Maybe it will change now that's she 70ish.

Is 6.2 the last major patch before whatever the next expansion is? Have they even announced a next expansion yet?


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Hutch on April 16, 2015, 02:13:11 PM
Setting: Activision Blizzard Conference Room 17

Suit 1: World of Warcraft: Overwatch

Lawyer: But we can't call it Overwatch, that's trademarked.

Suit 2: Hmm.

Suit 1: How about Overcorrection then.

Suit 2: World of Warcraft: Overcorrection in the Other Direction.

Yes Man: Can't wait for this to come out in 2017.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Mithas on April 16, 2015, 02:56:30 PM
Anyone read up on the timewalking feature?

Quote
Timewalking will be available to characters who are level 71 and higher for Burning Crusade content, and level 81 and up for Wrath of the Lich King dungeons. It will open up only during certain three-day-long weekend holidays

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/18710308/patch-62-preview-timewalking-4-14-2015

Are they serious with this?  :uhrr:


edit: added link to article


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Zetor on April 16, 2015, 03:22:28 PM
Yeah, the timewalking thing was datamined sometime in MOP, and they all but said they want to add it in as a way to make revisiting old content worthwhile or something. Considering Blizz's love for rehashing and milking old content instead of creating new stuff, I'm surprised implementing this took so long!  :awesome_for_real:


(TBH I'm kinda interested in checking it out, though I was hoping they'd make it a permanent thing to add some variance to max-level play for non-raiders. Ah well.)


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Mithas on April 16, 2015, 03:23:33 PM
I'm actually interested in it too. People have been asking for this sort of thing forever. However, limiting it to special 3 day holiday weekends is absolutely stupid.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Zetor on April 16, 2015, 03:27:54 PM
I'm actually interested in it too. People have been asking for this sort of thing forever. However, limiting it to special 3 day holiday weekends is absolutely stupid.
No argument there... guess this is a way to get people to stay subbed so they "have a chance" to "experience" this "wonderful new content" one dungeon at a time since there is a different rotation every week. I don't think its implementation could get any more Blizzard than that!


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Merusk on April 16, 2015, 03:28:39 PM
It's probably to ensure you don't have a 100 minute queue time as you wait on a tank to show up. Limit the availability and you increase the pool of potential players. Make it open all the time and it's too easy to say, "Meh, maybe tomorrow."



Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: luckton on April 16, 2015, 03:31:15 PM
I wish they got around to implementing scaled level LFG, like FFXIV's dungeon roulette system.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Zetor on April 16, 2015, 03:38:26 PM
Yeah, I've been advocating for that forever. Many other dikus on the market have/had sidekicking (EQ2, AOC, FFXIV, RIFT), so it's not like it's impossible to implement. Plus, the Challenge Mode / Proving Grounds systems already have working examples of both types of scaling: downscaling gear to a set ilevel, or upscaling enemies to the player's ilevel.

I'm pretty sure they haven't implemented level-scaled LFG because they don't want it for whatever reason. Maybe they think this approach will get more longevity out of rehashing the same dungeons (as compared to just dumping all old dungeons into the LFG system at once)?


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Setanta on April 16, 2015, 07:03:27 PM
My druid tank that I'm leveling almost always has the highest dps in groups - like way highest, double the next one.

Maybe it will change now that's she 70ish.

I pull about 13K dps as a warrior with crit/mastery gear in 654 ilevel gear. It annoys the DK offtank :) My pally in similar gear could only manage 9500 - haven't raided on my druid tank yet.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Merusk on April 16, 2015, 09:44:04 PM
Pally tanks have DPS issues, Warriors are insane on mass mobs and DKs are broken all around in terms of being able to pull good DPS on single and multiple mobs and Survive shit that kills others. My raid lead was thinking of switching to DK instead of Warrior because his alt was able to tank things so much easier.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: SurfD on April 17, 2015, 02:22:01 AM
Pally tanks have DPS issues, Warriors are insane on mass mobs and DKs are broken all around in terms of being able to pull good DPS on single and multiple mobs and Survive shit that kills others. My raid lead was thinking of switching to DK instead of Warrior because his alt was able to tank things so much easier.
Yep.  DK's just have pretty crazy survivability.  Yesterday in LFR, some wonderful person decided to pull ALLLLLLL of the trash down the Gruul Hallway in slagworks at the same time while I was tanking the first pack.  I also happened to be the ONLY tank, as we hadnt gotten a repacement yet for the one who dropped when Oregorger died.   I am by no means an expert DK tank, as my DK is like my 4th alt, but I still  managed to tank all that shit like a boss untill I completely ran out of cooldowns and flubbed  my rotation with only like 4 mobs remaining at around 4% health each.    I am reasonably sure if i had tried to do that solo on my druid or pally tank I  would have been a stain on the ground a hell of a lot sooner.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Xanthippe on April 17, 2015, 11:34:51 AM
At 100, Druid tanks seem to have less mitigation or something than other tanks - from healing them, they seem to soak up more mana/shields than the others.

It's interesting leveling up through dungeons exclusively. I have no idea how new players learn how to play these days, because they won't learn it in the dungeons. Dungeon etiquette is at an all time low, leveling up.

Some tanks are great, some are so awful that I wonder if they are even specced for tanking. Some healers just stand there - probably because they don't have to heal much in lower levels. Some dps don't even bother doing anything. They enter the dungeon and then afk, I guess, wanting a carry.

Others just pull everything, and then when the healer dies and they die, they blame either the tank for "not holding aggro" or the healer for "not healing." My standard on these jerks is to "go get a drink" after warning them to stop pulling a second time - or when they say "hey, we don't even need a tank" and gallop off.

It appeals to the perverse little control freak part of me to tank in the early dungeons sometimes.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Fabricated on April 17, 2015, 06:48:52 PM
The timewalking thing is something I've always wanted really, but I'd rather have multiple dungeons in the rotation. Or a randomized set of pools with redesigned loot.

Also I want Karazhan split into 2-3 dungeons.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Ingmar on April 17, 2015, 07:38:18 PM
Yeah looking at Timewalking, it seems like a missed opportunity. It only comes up occasionally, and when it does you might get stuck with fucking Mana-Tombs?


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Fabricated on April 17, 2015, 07:48:26 PM
I don't think it would've been that hard to just have some fucking interns do a pass over all the old dungeons and tweak mobs and rename/reitemize everything a bit so you can get armor sets and the like. I also would've organized the dungeons into "blocks" so you can do the WotLK block, BC block, etc.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: cmlancas on April 20, 2015, 09:50:24 AM
I've gotten burned out more quickly on this expansion more than any previous. I'm not even sure why. I felt like the overall feel of it was pretty good. As a casual there are more things to do now than ever. Been playing this game for 10 years, it is probably time to hang it up.

This.  Did Imperator Mythic and just... ugh.  It's stale now.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Ingmar on April 28, 2015, 05:34:52 PM
I've gotten burned out more quickly on this expansion more than any previous. I'm not even sure why. I felt like the overall feel of it was pretty good. As a casual there are more things to do now than ever. Been playing this game for 10 years, it is probably time to hang it up.

This.  Did Imperator Mythic and just... ugh.  It's stale now.

Never forget?

(http://www.the-nextlevel.com/media/pc/imperator/imperator1.jpg)


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Wasted on April 29, 2015, 04:19:05 AM
They are still being stubborn on the no flying thing I see.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Paelos on April 29, 2015, 08:28:48 AM
Flying is dead. They are tired for programming for it.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Hutch on April 29, 2015, 08:59:32 AM
They're not tired of selling the mounts though. Fucking hypocrites.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Merusk on April 29, 2015, 10:23:08 AM
Flying is dead. They are tired for programming for it.  :why_so_serious:

No, you've got the line wrong.

"Not having flying allows us to create a more immersive experience and goals that don't require challenges to happen in a cave.  Flying encourages a "swoop in, kill the objective, fly out" gameplay that was detrimental to the world as a whole."


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: angry.bob on April 29, 2015, 10:47:31 AM
Plus if they allow flying in the new expansion you can bypass all the shitty jumping and tightrope puzzles they put in. Because neither of those things that are aggravating in WoW's engine.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Paelos on April 29, 2015, 11:13:56 AM
Flying is dead. They are tired for programming for it.  :why_so_serious:

No, you've got the line wrong.

"Not having flying allows us to create a more immersive experience and goals that don't require challenges to happen in a cave.  Flying encourages a "swoop in, kill the objective, fly out" gameplay that was detrimental to the world as a whole."

It's the PR Bot, burn it with fire!  :mob:


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Montague on April 30, 2015, 11:59:07 AM
Flying is dead. They are tired for programming for it.  :why_so_serious:

No, you've got the line wrong.

"Not having flying allows us to create a more immersive experience and goals that don't require challenges to happen in a cave.  Flying encourages a "swoop in, kill the objective, fly out" gameplay that was detrimental to the world as a whole."

It's the PR Bot, burn it with fire!  :mob:

No, I haven't seen Simond post in a while.  :grin:


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on April 30, 2015, 10:01:37 PM
Flying was fun for 5 minutes.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Hutch on April 30, 2015, 11:48:58 PM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1217291/Misc/wctroll.jpg)


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Zetor on May 01, 2015, 12:19:29 AM
Speaking of which, where the fuck is my troll dungeon, Blizzard?!


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Draegan on May 01, 2015, 09:26:59 AM
I think this expansion was fun without flying. Leveling up and doing the pre-raid gearing by doing world bosses, collecting shit for my garrison, doing garrison quests and dailieis, you saw a ton of people running around doing stuff. It gave me good vibes. They should of had more shit to do.

Of course the raid game in WOW is fucking awful. LFR is a travesty of gameplay. Not because it's an easy raid, not because it's some elitist hate for noobs getting free gear, it's just boring unfun gameplay. Questing is harder.

They should of focused on a different "end game" of some kind. I guess it's too late for that though.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Merusk on May 01, 2015, 09:36:07 AM
I agree, I've had a lot of fun with it. The Garrison stuff does begin to become a chore, but I've finally realized I don't have to do EVERYTHING on every character. I'll swap missions once a day on all of them and do the tradeskill orders on 1-2 and no more. Really upped the enjoyment factor by a lot when I was finally able to let go like that.

Hell, my Monk's been level 100 for 2 weeks now and still has level 1 buildings and a level 2 garrison with only 16 followers. I don't feel that obsessive need to complete anymore and things are a LOT more fun.

LFR doesn't have to be as easy and terrible as they've made it. The problem is the raids require near-perfect execution on some levels these days so they just nerf the LFR version to the point mechanics don't matter at all. I didn't really realize this was the case until I did a 5-man dungeon again for the first time in 3 months when the monk hit 100.  I was dying left and right, fucking-up everywhere and struggling. Then I finally hit 615, ran a Highmaul and it felt like I was sleepwalking for better loot.  What. The. Actual. Fuck.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Draegan on May 01, 2015, 08:38:29 PM
I capped out at 655 TO 660 gear and stopped having fun. I'm curious about mythic 5 man progression stuff, but not enough to resub.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: SurfD on May 02, 2015, 06:50:01 AM
I agree, I've had a lot of fun with it. The Garrison stuff does begin to become a chore, but I've finally realized I don't have to do EVERYTHING on every character. I'll swap missions once a day on all of them and do the tradeskill orders on 1-2 and no more. Really upped the enjoyment factor by a lot when I was finally able to let go like that.

Hell, my Monk's been level 100 for 2 weeks now and still has level 1 buildings and a level 2 garrison with only 16 followers. I don't feel that obsessive need to complete anymore and things are a LOT more fun.

LFR doesn't have to be as easy and terrible as they've made it. The problem is the raids require near-perfect execution on some levels these days so they just nerf the LFR version to the point mechanics don't matter at all. I didn't really realize this was the case until I did a 5-man dungeon again for the first time in 3 months when the monk hit 100.  I was dying left and right, fucking-up everywhere and struggling. Then I finally hit 615, ran a Highmaul and it felt like I was sleepwalking for better loot.  What. The. Actual. Fuck.
What spec is your monk?  cause unless you are a tank, i really dont see how you could possibly be dying and struggling in 5 mans.   the heroics can be pretty punishing on low geared tanks if you are not familiar with what pulls REALLY need cc.  A few of them like Shadowmoon / The Train one have some brutally nasty trash pulls in them.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Xanthippe on May 02, 2015, 09:52:53 AM
I struggle healing as a disc priest with 615 gear in some of the dungeons, especially when people don't know the mechanics.

The bird with the ashes piles. Last boss in Shadowmoon. And just fuck Grimrail Depot. That is a nasty dungeon.

If you run those with a group of people in 615 gear who don't know the mechanics, wipes incoming.

Lately, I've seen some players in LFG who don't seem to know basic things like "let the tank pull" and "turn off taunt on pet" and other bad habits that I can only assume come from being a new player leveling up where dungeon basics aren't really needed.

Edited to add: LFR is way easier than 5mans, for new 100s.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Merusk on May 02, 2015, 10:23:30 AM
Yeah it was all of the above, there.  Nobody overgeared seems to run Heroics these days. I know I don't do it on my LFR toons or my main raider. Just don't want to bother. When I was in with the monk it seemed 3/5 people would get the heroic completion achieve each time.

I expect that if folks are like me and taking new toons through, but several times I had people say, "never done this dungeon before. (tanks in particular)  It's weird, like there's a new crop of players coming in or reactivating somewhere.

What spec is your monk?  cause unless you are a tank, i really dont see how you could possibly be dying and struggling in 5 mans.   the heroics can be pretty punishing on low geared tanks if you are not familiar with what pulls REALLY need cc.  A few of them like Shadowmoon / The Train one have some brutally nasty trash pulls in them.

Windwalker. I know I suck at it badly, which is part of the problem. Another appears to be that the tanks in Heroics right now don't know how to taunt (Many deaths were me pulling aggro somehow) AND don't know how to mitigate their own damage/ self-heal.** 

I know that one of the problems I had leveling-up was I was using Heirlooms where most of my dungeon groups seemed to have twinked with 3/3 max-level Draenor crafted items. I stopped comparing dps once I realized that a level 91 Dk had a level 670 2h, Chest and Helm in one group.  (We DESTROYED that place, unsurprisingly)  I'm starting to get used to the rotation, so my dps is creeping up, same with the my item level. However, due to 'standard' item level, healers who were struggling and tanks who didn't know what they were doing it makes 5-mans more difficult than they should be.

** I think this is part of why you're struggling, Xanth, though Disc does seem to require higher item levels early on due to low mastery scores on pre-raid gear.



Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Mithas on May 06, 2015, 04:47:19 PM
Down to 7.1 million subscribers. That's basically where it was at the end of MoP. I guess the garrisons didn't hold everyone's attention. They are going to need to churn some content out quicker or they will bleed out even more.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Fabricated on May 06, 2015, 06:09:08 PM
It's almost as if you need to produce content or people get bored and leave. I wonder if they'll learn this?*

*they won't


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Merusk on May 06, 2015, 07:27:52 PM
Content? What? We released a whole new raid zone for 5 weeks!


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Rokal on May 06, 2015, 09:13:19 PM
The raid content they "added via patch" was in the game at WoD launch, and was just artificially delayed to make tier 1 last longer. I'm not sure it counts.

IMO they only patch content they've really added was some QoL stuff, some battle pets, and a few legendary quest chain steps. Even I've unsubbed at this point, and I was part of the small fraction of their playerbase interested in regular raiding. If you weren't interested in raiding, or were satisfied with seeing it through LFR, I genuinely have no idea what worthwhile stuff you would have had to do over the the last 5 months. The only options that come to mind (leveling alts?) are things people have been doing for over a decade.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Paelos on May 06, 2015, 10:18:45 PM
Down to 7.1 million subscribers. That's basically where it was at the end of MoP. I guess the garrisons didn't hold everyone's attention. They are going to need to churn some content out quicker or they will bleed out even more.

That's the falloff I was expecting after Q1. When they post Q2, it will look like a bloodbath. I'm guessing the game is around 6M or lower by then.


Title: Re: 6.2: Burning Crusade, now in 4K HD!
Post by: Zetor on May 07, 2015, 01:36:10 AM
Maybe it's all intentional... they're trying to switch everyone over to Hearthstone! Mark my words, in 2020 WOW will just turn into an amusing minigame you play between Hearthstone sessions. The rivers shall run purple with the discarded gear of the unbelievers, yea, and the wails of the hardcore raiders shall be swallowed by the sound of a billion decks being shuffled...