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Post your predictions each week for the upcoming Playoff games, one round at a time.
Scoring is 1 point for correct first and second round predictions, 2 points for the League Championship, and 4 points for the Superbowl.

First Round:
Jacksonville at Pittsburgh
Tennessee at San Diego
Washington at Seattle
N.Y. Giants at Tampa Bay

Jacksonville
San Diego
Seattle
New York

Jax
SD

Sea
TB

Do we pick all the way to SB now or just the first round?

If its all the way here we go.

Jax v NE = NE
SD v Indy = Indy

TB v Dal = Dal
Sea v GB = GB

NE v Indy = NE
Dal v GB = GB

NE v GB = NE

Here's my order of non-hatred:
Green Bay
Tampa
LT ahem San Diego
Wash
Dal
Sea
Tenn
Jax
Indy
NYG
Pitt
NE

One round at a time.

Jacksonville
San Diego
Washington
New York

I think Portis is playing his best and will do enough to get Washington another game. 

New York
Washington
Jacksonville
San Diego

Dal vs Wash - Dal wins
GB vs NY - NY wins
Dal vs NY - Dal wins

NE vs Jax - Jax wins (super upset extravaganza!)
Indy vs SD - Indy wins
Jax vs Indy - Indy wins

SB is Dal vs Indy and Dallas will win it all.

Pitt
Tennessee
Washington
Tampa


Yeah, it's a little out there.

Jacksonville
San Diego
Seattle
TB

Pitt
SD
Seattle
NYG

I hate all of you except for Paelos and Shiznitz.  That said, the Steelers are going to lose hard.

Jacksonville
San Diego
Seattle
NY

Ooops, wish I would have seen this thread first:

Anyway, repeated from other NFL thread:

Wild Card Round winners:

Jacksonville
Tennessee
Washington
NY Giants

Why? We've got the same picks.

Because they're the only ones with confidence in the Steelers.  And I'm ashamed of myself for expecting them to fail, as I always am.

Well, Jacksonville already beat them in Pittsburgh earlier this month. Might as well expect it to happen again.

Also, Fred Taylor is the shit.

As much as I love the Steelers and root for them, to honestly appraise means I don't give them much chance. Parker exiting the season was a blow, but a bigger minus is that the defense, which I struggled in wonderment how they could be ranked #1 even earlier in the season, is not up to snuff, at least in terms of what a Steeler defense should look like…

Jacksonville
San Diego
Washington
Tampa Bay

What the fuck is with all the Tampa love? The Giants fought Brady to the wire and you think Garcia is a danger? Yes, there are injury issues for Big Blue, but c'mon!

You can't expect Eli to play 2 consistent games in a row.  That's crazy talk.
Pittsburgh
San Diego
Seattle
Tampa Bay

The Giants are world-class CHOKERS under Coughlin. They don't win big games.

First Round:
Jacksonville - Pitt's defense is too banged up and soft this year, and not having Willie Parker is going to kill them against the Jags.
San Diego - Despite San Diego's inconsitency, they should win this game hands down, especially if Young is seriously hurt.
Seattle - I think the Skins have done about as much as they can on emotion. The team is not great on offense, despite Portis, and I don't expect them to travel well.
Tampa Bay - See above. Giants are massive choke artists. They will fold. Tampa's D is going to skullfuck Eli.

Jacksonville
San Diego
Seattle
Tampa Bay

Seconded.  :pedobear:

Seattle
Jax
Tampa
SD


Only game I expect to be especially close is Tampa v NY.

Jacksonville
Tennessee
Washington
Tampa Bay

Jacksonville at Pittsburgh - too bad the Steel aren't healthy, because this would be the only game where both participants had a chance to make some noise later in the playoffs. The Steel D is down a safety and a half (if Polomalu plays at all that is) and a great run-stopping d-lineman. The o-line is a MASH unit as well, and (save Faneca) hasn't been playing well even when healthy. However, I'm a mindless homer. STEELERS

Tennessee at San Diego - Tennessee could win a playoff game. If they were in the NFC. Maybe. CHARGERS

Washington at Seattle - Seattle's pass offense vs the Skins pass D should make an entertaining game. I don't think Alexander will show up, and I think Portis will. REDSKINS.

N.Y. Giants at Tampa Bay - Tom Coughlin blew the Giant's wad getting a moral victory against the Pats in a meaningless game. I've never seen last week's moral victory make a tackle or a block. But what seals the deal is Eli vs one of the better pass defenses in the league. BUCS,

Polamolu to play Saturday, practiced today… …spoke to family who all tell me that nobody in Pittsburgh is expecting them to win, so who knows, they could surprise… …lost another OL (Starks) too, and untested rookies and dudes from practice squad could get significant snaps… …not a good omen…

Redskins  :heart:
Bucs
Chargers
Jags

I would laugh at everyone banking on Todd fucking Collins to lead a team to playoff victory on the road, but the weather has a good chance of being shitty tomorrow, which will destroy Seattle's passing offense. I am actually mildly worried for the first time all week.

Seattle
Jax
TB
SD

Todd fucking Collins is going to remember he's old and fucking sucks pretty soon. Their emotion-ride is just about over. Besides the fact the Hawks are 3-0 in home playoff games the last two years. That being said, I'm with Par, I'm a lil worried about the weather. Alexander/Morris can't carry this team, they need Hasselbeck or they're done.

Jacksonville
San Diego
Seatle
New York

This Wash/Seattle game just got interesting.

Go Washington!

Crazy swings in this game.

I'm glad I appear to have been wrong. 

Argh!

Congrats to Seattle for killing the dream of a dead hero.  :awesome_for_real:

Obviously, Todd Collins was not the QB Redskins were looking for.

Fucking announcers.  I was about to mute the game for the entire fourth quarter because they wouldn't stop flapping their gums about Sean Taylor.    Christ, it was approaching Maddenesque "You need to score to win the game" levels of inanity.


edit - added n't

I have the crazy feeling I'll go 0-4 in this game because I went with the emotional upsets.

Between Tom Brady in the Giants game last week and Sean Taylor today, I wonder if Collinsworth's mouth hurts from all the cock (and posthumous cock) he's choked on the last two weeks. Christ he's awful. Seriously, how the fuck does he have a job?

Bring on the Pack. "Give us the ball we're gonna score"

Chris was the one saying very early on (like week 4) that the Pats were the best team he had ever seen.

Pittsburgh looks shitty shit shit. They look like they don't even want to be there.

Helga! Helga! Helga!

0 for 2, dammit Pittsburgh you suck-diddly-uck. They freaking HAD IT!

Lousy coaching by Tomlin in 4th quarter.

Been driving the ball all half and then once they get a 1 point lead they decide to just sit on it and go ultra-conservative, and then special teams coverage failure gives Jaguars ball at midfield.

Then, after having been done in by draws by Jaguars in previous game, don't have that covered on 4th and 2.

Unfuckingbelievable.

Well, at least it was close =)

No kidding.   God they played sloppy tonight.

It's with two "L"s.  American Gladiators is all class, baby.  Are people really going to watch that crap?

Odd game.  Both QBs took turns forgetting how to play football.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/Abagadro/Helga_001.jpg)

Reowr.

This is how the Steelers played all season. It's called inconsistent, and it does not win Super Bowls. Or Playoffs. Or Wild Card. Or games. Bleh.

Both my predictions were correct.

Man, inconsistency abounded today. The Seahawks/Skins game should never have been close. It's been a while since I watched the Hawks. What the fuck happened to their offense? They can't run for shit most of the time, and Hasselbeck was all over the place. If they had been able to make one or two more plays in the first half, that game would have been over by the 3rd quarter. Todd Collins is what I thought he was, a backup at best. Santana Moss is just an underachieving twit. He's got all the skills to be a top receiver in the league, but he just never seems to give it his all. That Hawks defense is pretty solid though. Too bad their offense is going to get dickstomped by the Packers next week.

The Steelers/Jags game also should not have been that close. I'm not sure what happened to the Jags' coverage in the second half, but it was full of fail. It isn't like the Steelers were mixing things up at all. Davenport did fuckall for running all night. So why couldn't the Jags cover anyone in the second half? Definitely bad play-calling on Tomlin's part in the end. They'd already proved that they couldn't run the ball, so why not just go for short slants and high percentage passing? It's too bad the Jags are in the same division as the Colts and Pats. They'd be my pick for the NFC Championship if they were in the NFC, as that defense is better than both the Cowboys and the Packers, IMO. I bet the Jags are rooting for the Titans like a motherfucker, just so they can go play the Colts.

Tampa nooooooooo  :cry:

1st quarter it looked like they were gonna smoke the Giants... and then it all went wrong.

0 for 3.

Tennessee is doomed.

Welcome to the playoffs Mr. Young.

Interesting first half in the Tenn-SD game. SD has got to get LT going, or it's going to be a long day for Mr. Rivers.

Wow, nice second half Mr. Rivers. Congrats Bolts.

Vince Young just knows how to win!

I'm totally watching American Gladiators. I expect it will be aweome.

FiFY

I believe I called them all right.

Just went through the thread and tallied it up -


Winners
Jacksonville
San Diego
Seattle
New York


Stray - 4/4
Phildo - 4/4
Rasix - 4/4

Hoax - 3/4
Nebu - 3/4
Ozzu - 3/4
sidereal - 3/4
shiznitz - 3/4
tazelbain - 3/4
WayAbvPar - 3/4
trotski - 3/4
HaemishM - 3/4

naum - 2/4
Trippy- 2/4
El Gallo - 2/4
Wershlak - 2/4
JWIV - 2/4

Zetleft - 1/4
LanTheWarder - 1/4

Paelos - 0/4


edit - counting to four is hard sometimes.  Fixed HaemishM's tally.

American Gladiators is pretty good so far. It's funny though that the competitors are all pretty buff, in some events I can't even tell which is the gladiator. In the old days the challengers were all skinny.

Edit: The female gladiators are much smaller than they were before. But one of them just did a piledriver on someone.

Edit: Some of the female gladiators are pretty hot.

Dead...
fucking...
last

That's what you get for voting with your heart!

Nice work JWIV!

Oh, and I want Crush on AG to have my babies. I  :heart: her.

NEXT!

Jacksonville @ New England
SD @ Indianapolis
NYG @ Dallas
Seattle @ Green Bay

I am calling home team sweep.

Ditto, though I think Sea vs GB might be a nailbiter.

Fuckin-A, I'm so glad Dallas is playing the Giants.

I'll be cheering for Seattle, but I think shiznitz is right.

New England
Indianapolis
Dallas
Green Bay

Umm, no. I got 3/4. I picked the Chargers.

I was surprised by the Tampa game. I kept expecting Eli to choke on it. Instead, it showed just how shitty the Tampa receivers are when Galloway isn't 100%. I mean, you're playing the goddamn Giants, whose coverage doesn't get better than suspect, and they don't even have one of their starting corners. And you can't get more than 14 points? You suck.

I actually expected the Chargers/Titans game to be closer, but their defense just didn't hold up. It wasn't a blowout, but it beat the spread.

EDIT:

New England - Come on, the Jags MIGHT beat them... but I doubt it. I can't beat against the Pats no matter who is playing.
Indy - The Chargers just aren't consistent enough. If Harrison back, it'll be worse.
Dallas - Giants will choke. They just delayed the choke by a week.
Green Bay - Seattle's offense is WAY WAY too inconsistent. The Pack's will pack them in when they don't have to defense the run.

Sorry bout that, fixed it!

Pats
Colts
Cowboys
Packers

NE
Indy
Dallas
GB

In a perfect world it would be-
Jax
Indy
Giants
Seattle

Seattle has a chance in GB, but they aren't a very good road team. I am wondering if Hasselbeck is totally healthy, since he looked like shit for most of Saturday. If he gets it going (it would help if Deion Branch's vagina healed) and the defense contain the run and get some pressure on Mr. Favre, they can do it.

The only reason I want NY to beat Dallas is to give the Hawks a home game in the NFC championship if they manage to sneak by the Pack. It will likely cost me several hundred dollars if Dallas is one and done in the playoffs (FF league runs through the SB, and I am clinging to a tiny lead with Romo as my QB; other guy has Peyton).

Jax
SD
NYG
Seattle

Why? Because I can possibly pull a glorious 0/8.

NE
IND
DAL
GB

Yes, all the favorites, would like to pick JAC, but only in some alternate scoring system (say, where the W/L results were weighted against how many picked for/against — i.e., if 10 people predicted GB/SEA for instance, and 8 pick GB, 2 pick SEA, then 2 points would be awarded for correct GB pick (if GB won), but 8 points for SEA upset win (if SEA managed to upset). But then that's my peculiar fetish, to search for more equitable algorithmic prediction registry justifications…

NE
Indy
NYG
GB

In a perfect world...

Jax
SD
Dal
GB

I have this terrible terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach that Eli is going to play ok and more importantly the Giants disgusting front line is going to fuck Romo up badly.  I want to be wrong but I dropped a point last round (fuck you Giants) so I need to take one upset for a shot at the win.  I really want to take the Bolts but that defense really only comes alive when its playing with a lead and it can just hunt the QB, so barring that happening I just don't see it.  I know the Jags can't win, they just don't have the offense to put up 24 and nobody is going to hold the Pats to less then 17 this season.  But they MIGHT hurt Brady, or Moss, or both.  Also they might knock out 2-4 players on their defense running over them.

We've heard all year people say, the LB's are old if you run at them they will wear down.  I'm not exactly sold on that.  I would rather see somebody play physical with Moss and fuck with him, light him up with as cheap a shot as you can get if he comes across the middle.  Then if you can get him playing half-assed like he used to play just blitz LB/CB/Safety from his side and try to decapitate Brady.  That's the best plan I can come up with.  Oh, and fucking kill Kevin Faulk, god I hate that guy.

Lot of chalk picks.  I feel obligated to pick an upset.  As I'm a Seattle homer, I should pick the Hawks, except I'm dead fucking certain that they're going to get creamed at Lambeau.  So I'll go . . (finger in the wind). . Gints.


Pats, Colts, Giants, Packers

Jax, NYG, GB, Ind

 :pedobear:

NE
Indy
Dal
Sea

New England
Indianapolis
Dallas
Seattle

Re Seattle, I'm betting on Seattle's D ruining Favre's day. This becomes even more likely if Hasslebeck can recover from his hand injury.

I'm going to be rooting for Jacksonville, but it ain't going to happen.

In StupidUniverse, the Superbowl will be Indy v NYG, so we can listen to 3 hours of the announcers spooging all over the 'Manning Family Dynasty'. :P

Since I'm behind most everybody else I'm going to have to go for some upset picks:

Jacksonville - cause Belichick is fucking cheater and there's no way the AP should've awarded Coach of the Year to him
Indianapolis
New York - gotta pick another upset somewhere
Green Bay

Trippy and I have the same picks again. Weird.  :heart:

I don't see why/how anyone would pick the Giants to do jack shit against the Cowboys. They've had the rare opportunity to play them twice in the season already, and got beat down both times.

No TO. C'mon now, you think he's going to recover from a high ankle sprain in three weeks? That's borderline superhuman.

Jax -- Because, as Trippy pointed out,  the Pats wouldn't be shit w/o video tape. And, NE/BOS fans are the most worthless pieces of insufferable shit on Earth. They make Philly fans look like goddamn lovable donkeys.
IND
NY -- Only because I want a home NFC Championship game.
SEA -- If the D plays like they can, and Hasselbeck plays like he should, Hawks should win that game. I give the Pack their props, but Hawks O, when its on, is unstoppable.

" We want the ball, we're gonna score."

Not to play down the threat he brings to the field, but as long as they figure out ways to get coverage off of Witten, I think they're fine. Sure, it won't happen all from one guy, like in TO's case, so more than likely it'll be Crayton and Glenn -- and they're not bad substitutes by any means. That team can still win against New York.

If it was Witten who was hurt, that'd be another thing.

He's going to play and he's going to play well. Wade Phillips was trying to cover that up to the media today, but some of the players said he was running routes and looked good doing it. Plus, Terry Glenn will be more up to speed. He probably won't start the game, but I could see him coming in on 3 WR formations.

The Cowboys will be ready. :)

Hell, if his health status is being kept under wraps like that, that could really work in favor for Dallas.

I think that was Wade's intention, but I don't think his teammates got the memo.  :oh_i_see:

If Glenn is even half the receiver he was last year, having him on the field with TO, in this offense, is going to be fun to watch.

I am obligate to pick at least one upset because I pretty much sucked the first week.

NE
Dallas
Seattle
Indy

Not entirely playoff related, but Gibbs is resigning.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/08/AR2008010801636.html?hpid%3Dartslot&sub=AR

After reading that Romo was in Cabo with Jessica Simpson all weekend, I am tempted to change my pick to NY but I am going to sit tight for now.

New England
San Diego
Green Bay
New York

I'm going with the teams that actually looked like winners going into the post season.  Not super confident on Chargers/Giants pulling it out, but more confident than Indy/Dallas not coming out flat.

What the fuck is with the Seattle love? Did any of you actually watch the Seahawks offense play against the Skins? They looked putrid through at least 2 of those quarters, with Hasselbeck not able to complete jack or shit.

I think he'll be lucky if he walks out of that game upright. 

Caveat: Yes I am an insanely loyal Charger fan.

That being said I don't have any illusions about how they play sometimes (*cough* Rivers *cough*), the fact the the team is at this point relies almost entirely on LT, or that Norv isn't the strongest playoff coach but...

Still, I think they have a decent shot a beating Indy.  The last time they played was Cromartie's interception fest and Manning looked out of sorts, and the special teams scoring helped as well.

So yes, I'm looking at the game with the heart of a fan, but I don't think it's necessarily that lopsided.  I think the fact that it's a home game for Indy is the biggest hurdle as Rivers play like ass indoors. *cross fingers*



 

Green Bay will lose their first game as I said in a previous post. Green Bay is totally reliant on the pass for 3/4 of their offense. Seattle is the same way. In a game where the weather is going to be in the mid-20s, no passing attack is going to be very effective for very long. The game will come down to which runningback and O-line will play the best, and who has the best special teams unit. I think Seattle will win the field position war and win a very low scoring game.

Right -- that's how Ryan Grant became the leading rusher in the NFL in the second half of the season.

I realize that, but his gains are completely established by the pass, not the other way around. He's an impressive talent, but we're talking about a guy putting up 800 yards in the second half, and a team that had 2400+ in the air. If you take away that passing game, they won't be able to run like that at all.

Why would you think that Seattle would be able to pass any better than Green Bay? In a Favre vs. Hasselback matchup, I'd take Favre in cold weather any day of the week. As for running games, Shaun Alexander and Matt Morris will not equal Ryan Grant, who pleasantly surprised me late in the season. As bad as Green Bay's running game was the first half, that's been Seattle's running game the whole damn year, including at home against Washington. I've no idea what makes you think they'll be able to run against Green Bay any better. Green Bay has a better front 7 than Washington, and their corners are on par or better than the Skins as well. Not to mention the fact that Green Bay's passing game relies on high percentage throws like slants and such, which are still high percentage in the cold weather. Passing won't be the huge problem you think it will be, at least not for Green Bay.

Oh and the Pack's receivers are better too. Engram/Hackett/Burleson < Driver/Jennings/Jones.

I disagree that the Pack receivers are better.  I heart Jennings, but I'd take our (Seattle) 3 over their 3.  Especially now that Branch is back.  And definitely our 4 over their 4 (Burleson > Robinson).  But it doesn't matter, because Favre is better than Hasselbeck, and even that doesn't matter because it's going to be a ground game, and the Seattle running game is a joke.  Holmgren completely abandoned it the second half of the season, because Alexander imploded and is now slightly worse than career backup Mo Morris.  On the plus side, our LB crew is pretty good and if Tatupu and Peterson can knock Grant around enough and get to Favre, we might win a turnover battle.  But I'm not betting on it.

LOL

I agree that I think GB is going to win at home, Hawks can't win a ground war. But there is no way in hell the Packers front 7 are better than Seattle's. If you look at the stats, they are virtually identical in every category, except sacks, where Sea had a sizeable advantage.  They each gave up identical PPG. This game is going to be closer than you think. If Matt plays well, and Favre throws a few picks, Sea wins this game.

If I had to give % chance, I would say somewhere like 55%-45% in favor of GB, mostly because they are at home. Everyone outside of the PNW consistently underestimates Seattle. Hopefully they can surprise everyone again.

If they could somehow make it to the SB and beat the Patriots (spoiling the perfect season, and hopefully driving Brady into Belichick on the sidelines causing both of their gruesome deaths), I could die a happy man.

I don't. I don't think either team will bother with it, and I think the special teams of Seattle is better than GB. That's where the game will be decided in my view; a battle of field position and cold weather kicking.

Playoff Predictions: NE won't make the Super Bowl.

Sorry.

I almost forgot about these predictions. Like others, I feel obligated to pick upsets to get back in it but I really feel that all the home teams should win. I wouldn't be too shocked if one of the NFC home teams lost but which one? Ahh well...

NE
Indy
GB
NY

Dallas is the team I dislike the most so I'll pick them to lose.

GO HAWKS!!

Missed kickoff in the GB-SEA game, so eat an autoloss there. My pick in that one would be "lol nfc who cares" anyway.

NE over JAX
IND over SD
DAL over NYG lol NFC here, but Giants seen loler.

1-3 in week one!

Gee 14-0 Seahawks in the first 4 minutes.

I'm feeling good about my "Green Bay will choke in the first game" prediction so far.

EDIT: Wow, 14-14 now still in the first quarter. This is not the game anyone expected in terms of scoring.

I will only make one pick: Jags over the Pats in the late game.  I don't know why but I have an instinct that this is the only team left that can beat Brady and Co.

This is completely insane. It's 21-14 Packers now. There's a very solid chance they'll surpass the over/under of 44.5 in the first HALF.

Wow missed kickoff time, woulda gone with GB but too late now.

JAX
IND
DAL

I was sort of rooting for Seattle before kickoff because its f13's official team (in my mind) but then they got spotted 14 points by Grant.  So I was rooting for Favre and now he's just awesome.  So I'm going to keep rooting for Favre in the second half, the man is fantastic, also AJ Hawk 4tw. 

Hasselbeck is falling apart.

EDIT: This snow is nuts.

EDIT2: Considering that they basically spotted Seattle 14 points, this is a serious ass-whooping.

The game isn't close but I love watching Favre. They're playing in a blizzard!  :drill:

The snow, the first period, and the last Hasselbeck almost-self-fumble were definitely worth the ticket.

God I love snowball.  FUCK YOU PUSSIES IN DOMES.

Sad to see Seattle get their asses kicked, but Green Bay looked fucking good today.  Good job by the D and the receiving corps worked that shit today.  A lot of stretching out and cutting back for soft passes and making plays happen.

Also, poor Pollard  :ye_gods:

Green Bay's safety is a wrecking ball. Lots of good hits from both sides, especially early on, but Bigby is a brute.

JAX starts things off right   :drill:

Ok now OMG GARRARD!!

95 yds against the Pat's.  JAX looks pretty hungry.

Hasselbeck is a whiney pussy. If he spend half the effort throwing the ball that he did bitching at the refs, Seattle would have at least been in the game.

Jacksonville is hanging with the Pats, but as we've seen in the past, the first half is meaningless with that team. If Jacksonville is leading in the 4th quarter, I'll start getting jumpy.

I'm not really sure what Jacksonville is thinking with their defense. They are giving Brady a month to throw and hoping he makes a mistake.... Yeah that's going to work.  :heartbreak:

If they blitz they are looking at man coverage on the outside receivers and NE will kill them with the bomb. Playing against the Pats offense is a Hobbsian endeavor.

Well they held the pats to a fieldgoal for the first time blitzing. That's slightly better than a TD every time.

I do agree with you that they weren't going to win the game regardless but sitting back hoping for a mistake isn't how you play the Pats. The only teams I have seen stop the patriots forced mistakes with a good rush on the QB. They didn't win the game in the end, but they didn't sit back and try and cover the receivers all night hoping they make a mistake.

Those teams generally had much better cover-corners and safeties. Jacksonville's secondary isn't that great.

Not to mention you can hope someone hits Brady and hurts him  :drill:.

Seriously, just fuck Field Goals against the Pats. You'll lose the game the moment you start doing that, even if it is the right call in that situation against any other NFL team. If you are less than 10 yards to a first down, and you kick a FG against the Pats, you are doomed.

Ummm, yeah, I was right about the Seahawks and the Packers. Grant ran the fuck all over their defense, AFTER coughing it up twice. The only real good series the Hawks D had was that second Grant fumble. The first fumble was all Grant's fault, the second was a good hit. After that, their defense just never showed up, and not having any sort of running game whatsoever just killed the Hawks. Sorry, Way. Even when Green Bay went down 14, I still knew they'd come back. Green Bay's offense is just too good, and the great part is that now it's a balanced attack.

The Jags looked damn good, but yes, that defense should have blitzed, at least on passing downs. They also should have done a damn sight better against the run, their tackling was poor especially at the second and third level. Garrard showed me a lot, though. That guy is going to just get better, and his receivers are getting better too. They aren't on the Patriots level yet, but I don't think anyone is. If they were in any other division in the league besides the AFC South or East, they'd win that division hands down. I'd actually put them on the same level as Green Bay and Dallas, mainly because Garrard makes so few bad passes. Unfortunately, he made as many bad passes in the playoffs than he did the whole regular season (3 INT's in reg. season, 3 INT's in the playoffs).

I have to LOL at the people picking the Giants, or expecting the Giants to put up great numbers against Dallas. It is to laugh.

Hi! My name is Peyton Manning. I'm a beast of a quarterback, here to invade your motherfucking.  :drill:

Chargers better start playing a lot better if they are going to stay in this game.

Do the Charges have a defense?

On paper.

If the Colts play anything like this next week the Patriots are going to just romp them, but at least this is a close game for now.

FIFY

They are doing okay so far.

Vive la Volek!

Wow the chargers with just about everyone of their starters hurt look like they are going to play the Patriots.....

This will be an interesting finish to say the least. I don't agree with the three straight runs but I've never thought Norv Turner was a smart coach.


Yeah that's going to be a good game.

Not so fast. 1:35 is a long time for Manning with 1 timeout.

Oof. Now that was a hit.

1:03 no timeouts and no Reggie Wayne. Still think they have a chance?

The shot of Rivers yelling at the fan was rather amusing. At first glance I thought the fan was flipping him off but he was just holding up his hand.

Either way the Chargers have no chance against the Pats.

Heh. Chargers are going to be so meat next week.

I stand by my pick (Indy). One minute to go.  :awesome_for_real:

Stranger things have happened.

Edit: Oops.

Aww...

Ah well, SD is a cool team. Not necessarily disappointed.

Whoa, a Norv Turner team headed to a conference championship…

Now let's see how badly the Cowboys can beat the Giants.


I'll put it out there T.O. is going to have two TDs. Assuming he is playing :-P

I need a Volek avatar.
And put me down for 20$ on the Giants winning by 4 points. This is a strange day.

Well I am halfway to my prediction.

Sucks! That wasn't a TD  :drill:

That was an impressive drive.

Which one?  :awesome_for_real:

All i know is the Giants need to win... cuz like, Favre can't win in Dallas.

4th period, 13:29 left. NYG 21 - DAL 17.

Ok, stop the world NOW.

God loves the Patriots.

Chargers win but the QB and RB both go down, now the Cowboys are without their center and the Giants have secondary injuries I think. Patriots are going to be facing one hobbled team after another.

Edit: On that 3rd down play where Romo appeared to overthrow the ball the receiver slowed down then sped back up, the ball landed right where he would have been had he kept running. And now game over.

Where do I send the check.  :grin:

Holy moles!

Can I get my grief title now?

I know I picked DAL for the 'W', but the look on the faces of Jerry Jones and Bum Jr. (as well as Romo) is priceless… …see you all in GB next week!

/cry

I would have taken 2 losses in the regular season to that one.

8 for 8.   Anyone want to know how the rest of the playoffs is going to happen?  :drill:

If you can tell me with the chalk I definitely do.

Holy fuck, what a day of upset football. After the first fumble, the Colts never looked themselves. Had they gone to New England with or without Marvin Harrison, they'd have lost. Now we get to watch San Diego get stumpfucked by the Pats next week. The thing that won the Chargers that game was depth at the skill positions, and that's one things the Colts don't have. Wayne and Harrison go down, and all you have is Gonzales, who is about 2 years from being Brandon Stokely. The Colts' D was just not good enough all game long, especially their corners. Vincent Jackson is not as good as the Colts made him look. But really, who would have expected with Tomlinson and Rivers out AND Gates hurt, the Chargers would have executed a winning drive?

But really, the Cowboys? I can blame that entire loss on the offensive line. They had way too many false start penalties, too many that killed good drives including that final one. Romo didn't look bad, TO wasn't spectacular but wasn't bad, but the whole offense especially in the second half looked off, and it started at the center. He couldn't get the ball out in time, and guys were jumping all over the place. There's no way the Giants DB's should have been able to do what they did. But to give the Giants credit, Eli didn't fuck up. He had a good game, and he threw no picks. I'd never have bet on that in a million years.

So it looks like we'll have a Pack/Pats Super Bowl for a '97 rematch.

Championship Picks:

New England
Green Bay

I think 2/8 now because two of my upsets came true, even though I'm pretty pissed about the Dallas one, but I saw that coming. I don't care what you do in any season, NOBODY has ever beaten the same team three times. Ironically, Dallas is the one team who's had a shot twice, and now has blown it twice.

I'm just going to start placing my faith in Favre. Please Brett! Make it there and kick everyone's asses just one last time!

6/8  missed on the NYG first win and the SD win.

I'm taking NE & GB for the superbowl.  Please god, let me see a defense try to take it to Brady throughout the entire game, just once, pretty please? 

Here's praying for a Shawn Merriman closeline hit on Brady...  Also lol @ Dallas, called that one.  That loss can be put on any section of that team.  The chargers won as a team, the cowboys lost as one.

FIFY.  Pwnt!

6/8

Patriots/Packers Superbowl

Who would have put money on the other Manning making it further in the playoffs than the real Manning?

By my count

Rasix - 8

Stray - 6
Phildo - 6
Hoax - 6
sidereal - 6

shiznitz - 5
WayAbvPar - 5
HaemishM - 5
Wershlak - 5

tazelbain - 4
trotski - 4
naum - 4
Trippy- 4
JWIV - 4
cmlances 4

Nebu - 3
Ozzu - 3
El Gallo - 3

Paelos - 2
LanTheWarder - 2

Zetleft - 1
Daeven - 1

Triforcer  - 0

EDIT: ba

The majority of people have done worse than random coin flips.  :awesome_for_real:

That's just amazing.

No. The majority have done no better than random coin flips.

Yeah you're right. I suck.

I don't think Triforcer made all the predictions so he's not really 0/8.

Fuck it, I'm picking:

Green Bay - because I can't stand NY
San Diego - because I can't stand the Pats

My Superbowl prediction is still in tact.

Green Bay
New England

Both teams went into the playoffs with momentum and they've kept it going.  I unfortunately think both games are going to be blowouts. Eli's a terrible cold weather quarterback and San Diego is just banged up.  Luckily they've got just about the best backups for their skill players at RB/QB.

I should have 2. Not that it really matters all that much. I'll go with the Pats and the Giants.

Conference Champions
==============

NE
GB

I can't let this one go by without a huge :awesome_for_real:

Oh man, TO just pulled a Hillary.

Your picks:

Jacksonville
Tennessee
Washington
Tampa Bay

NE
Dallas
Seattle
Indy

You have 1.

So all the teams that sat players are now out. Wonder if we'll start to see a different thought on sitting your stars once you clinch a playoff berth?

Shit, I'm STILL laughing. I wanted to be wrong on that one, because I do so hate the Cowboys and Terrell Owens. But seriously, I'd never have logically thought ELI FUCKING MANNING, coached by Tom Coughlin, I never would have thought that motherfucker would not cough up an INT or two in a big game. It just defies logic. And it just goes to show that even when you know something, you don't know nothing.

Indy and Dallas both suck ass after having bye weeks in the playoffs, especially when they get rested during those weeks. Both teams played under their talent, and both lost.

I just hope it's Green Bay that beats the Patriots. Even as a die-hard Packers fan, I don't think they WILL beat New England, but I sure hope they do.

Apparently the Seahawks defense missed the fucking team plane. That was easily the worst performance of the season for them. Perfect timing. Ugh.

The Cowboys shitting the bed officially sealed my 2nd place finish in my FF league, just when Peyton and the Colts losing had given me hope. Fuck.

GB
NE

Perhaps, but shall we discuss the 6 points by the Seattle Offense? It is so wonderful that we pay Alexander $30mil/year. Having spent a decade in Denver all I'm going to say is that most of that cash should be in Seattle's O line.

GB v NE - while hoping SD pulls the upset.

This might be the kiss of death the way my predictions are going =P

Green Bay and New England. 

Green Bay
New England

Jacksonville won in the first week and New England won this week. Now unless 1+1 doesn't equal 2 I have 2.

Not that it matters anymore but:

San Diego
Green Bay

Jumping on the NE vs. GB bandwagon. Although hoping SD can pull the upset. Fuck Brady in his fucking ass. I hope Merriman breaks his femur.

GB
NE

Both Favre and Manning throw more than 2 INTs each in an ugly game. NE wins by less than a TD.

Uh, what? I call shennanigans.

re: Alexander on the Seahawks, for real, get rid of him.  There is such a fucking disgusting amount of talent coming out of the college ranks at RB these days.  Also, please to be rebuilding your WR corps some time in the next decade?  I haven't seen a good WR wearing anything but #80 on the Seahawks since I was born it feels like.

Seattle thinks its better then it is, because the NFC West is fucking terrible.  The 49ers will not be good until the Yorks are gone, Mike Martz 4tl?  The sooner Bruce/Holt go away the sooner the Rams might stop sucking and I dont know if I even think the Cardinals want to win anymore.  Also lol @ Warner as starter.  The fact that people honestly thought that offense was "unstoppable" is pretty funny.  There isn't a single gamebreaker at any skill position on that offense.  I feel real bad for Holgren, except fuck that, Favre is awesome.

Holt is good. What kind of crack do you smoke? Also, Bruce is a solid wideout too. Try talking about an offensive line first to protect your quarterback before you go bashing receivers and looking silly.

Boldin & Fitzgerald are an outstanding pair of receivers.  Otherwise, yeah.

The Rams have been living in the past for fucking forever now.  They've wasted years not being a run-first team (Jackson is a Beast, everyone knows that) partially because of Martz but I think partially because Bruce/Holt are so great blahblah.  They aren't worthless yet but the Rams just don't ever seem to be getting younger and I catch their games at least once a year usually twice thanks to living in NFC West territorry.  I liked that white 3rd WR they had/have he needs to get the ball more.  Presumably they've been drafting defense but you sure wouldn't know it.  I didn't mean to single out Bruce/Holt as much as say that as soon as that era ends the Rams might get around to fully rebuilding the team instead of trying to patch it together enough to go 2-0 against Seattle and win that shitty shit division.


I meant Seattles offense.  Obviously this was a case of rushed shitty from-work posting 4tL.

Hoax, here's what my Rams gameplan would be.

#1) Draft offensive line. By doing this, we protect Marc Bulger, we improve Steven Jackson, and we improve Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, and whatever other receievers we still have.
#2) Draft a shut-down corner and a good middle linebacker to lead the defense.

I'm not a big Rams fan, but the number of times I counted 15+ yard plays while watching fantasy updates in Rams games because I drafted Holt this year was astounding.

Hell if we can get to the superbowl this year with one of the youngest teams around where we didn't have any running game to speak of for half the year it will be a huge win for us even if we can't beat the pats. I think if greenbay was firing on all cylinders and the pats played like they did the last few weeks they are beatable but we would have to play flawless.

Hell this weeks game will be fun one way or the other NYG vs Packers in lambeau in january that is football right there folks no matter who wins.

Not true.  Packers v Cowboys would have been a great Jan football flashback to the 90's.  Packers v Giants is gheyed up by Eli being Eli, I want to see a curbstomping, preferably with multiple sacks and ints of that stupid fuck.

NE
GB

NE
GB


In case I didn't already predict this...can't remember and don't wanna look up the thread.  :awesome_for_real:


It is going to colder than a well digger's ass at Lambeau this weekend. Ugh.

Super Bowl: NE over SD. With a healthy SD and a little sloppy weather, this could've been the game, but it looks like coronation time.
JV: NYG over GB.  What the hell, I am stinking up the picks this year.  As the old saying goes, on any given Sunday, Brett Favre is capable of utterly falling apart.

As much as I'd love to see San Diego put the superbowl beat down on any team including Eli Manning, what my heart wants is not what my heart will get.

New England over Green Bay, end of the story.

Yeah NE and GB..... great.

Rematch of Week 17. Really didn't see the Giants taking that game. I think this will probably be a better SB than a NE-GB one though. I wonder if Eli can really handle that kind of pressure.

:ye_gods: I don't think I'm going to watch the SB this year.

I may not either, think that's a first. 

And today we learn that there are four quarters to football.   Which apparently Green Bay forgot given how they played in the second half. 

This sport is decided on penalties and it's almost as random as our Football. Why do I keep watching both?!

I am glad for the Giants though. A few catches by Burress and Toomer were worth the Superbowl.

Yah, the Packers would have been mauled by the Pats with the amount of pressure they generated today.  What a completely listless game from the Pack. They didn't even deserve to go to OT.

And yah, I was wrong this week. Heck, even San Diego had a chance.

Super Bowl Quarterback ELI FUCKING MANNING.  

Seriously... what the fuck?

The Packers never bothered to run. What did they give it to Grant, 10 times? Maybe? That right there is stupid. They were acting like this was the beginning of the season. No wonder they couldn't move the ball in the second half. And what the fuck was with Al Harris tonight? He couldn't cover a gimpy Burress all goddamn game. They stopped the Giants running game, but couldn't beat ELI FUCKING MANNING.

I do have to give Eli credit, though. He never fucked up. He never folded, not all damn postseason. I still don't give him a chance in hell against New England, but he's earned a bit of respect today.

Grant had one good run all game. Credit NYG's defense (even though I picked GB.).

Oh yeah, Manning played better than Favre. Sorry.

I hate the giants more than ever now. Hope the Pats crush em.

On NE over SD: WTF is Norv Turner punting for when his team is in NE territory late 4th quarter…?

On NYG over GB: Favre threw some stupid passes, Packers were owned for most of the game sans a few a few plays, yet still blew the ballgame as all they had to do was to fall on a loose ball once and the story would be Coughlin's wreck of a coaching job… …Giants deserved to win, they were the better team and totally stymied GB in 2nd half. Packers figured out how to stop Plaxico in 2nd half, but not the other 10 guys on Giants offense…

I predict NE slaughter of Giants + Eli but one has to admit that Giants are looking like team of destiny, kind of like Steelers road warrior squad from 2006 super bowl that took their 6th seed and won out… …but handling NE on more fertile passing game conditions is a whole different nut…

Yeah.  Granted it was 4th and 10.  But hand to God, when they brought out the punting team I told my wife "They just lost".  When you're down two scores and there's like 6 minutes to go against a team 3 times as good as you are, you take a fucking risk.

Grant did have one good run. But it wasn't like they really ever tried to get the running game started. The whole 4th quarter, every time Green Bay got the ball, I was saying "Run the ball, at least once." But they didn't. They just kept throwing the ball, and knowing that, the Giants just loaded up the pressure and played the pass. And it wasn't like they were trying high percentage out routes, or slants, but easy to intercept stuff or underneath dink passes. They got outcoached and outplayed. It almost reminded me of New Orleans vs. Chicago in last year's NFC Championship game. Let's just forget that we've got a running game, we can pass on these guys. Only, they couldn't and they lost because of it.

By my count

Rasix - 10

Phildo - 8
Hoax - 8
sidereal - 8

El Gallo - 7
shiznitz - 7
WayAbvPar - 7
HaemishM - 7

Stray - 6
tazelbain - 6
trotski - 6
naum - 6
JWIV - 6
LanTheWarder - 6

Wershlak - 5

Trippy- 4
cmlances 4

Zetleft - 3
Daeven - 3
Nebu - 3
Ozzu - 3

Paelos - 2

EDIT: double ba

Ditto. Hate both teams. Hate both coaches. Hate both quarterbacks. I am sure I can find something to do on a Sunday.

Schottenheimer just blew it again!!

Oh WAIT!

STOP KICKING FIELD GOALS AGAINST THE PATS!

Nobody seems to want to learn this fact at all. Just go for it you knuckleheads. At one point it was 4th and 2 late in the game and SD kicked a FG. It was just horrible, no-balls, decision-making.

Yeah, when the Chargers kicked that field goal in the 4th quarter instead of going for it on 4th down, I knew it was over. Actually, I'd know for over a quarter that it was over... essentially, every time the Chargers kicked a field goal. But you're right, if you're in field goal range against the Pats, you might as well just go for it.

Even worse, SD always settled for 3. You cannot beat the Pats if you settle for 3. The Giants MIGHT win if they know this. If you are too close to punt, fucking go for it on 4th. I bet NE had the lowest FG attempts of any team in the NFL by a mile.

I should have 6 points see below for post with picks in it from earlier in the thread.

I've got to feel bad for Norv here though.  In the Red Zone his O-Line suddenly couldn't move anyone anywhere.  He didn't have LT, nor Gates really.  He ran it every fucking time on the 10, got nowhere and felt forced to pass twice versus 7 Pats in a zone.  Really I think after the first two times he might have tried to dump it to Sproles or play-action fade route on first down because Turner could only gain 3+ on first EVERYWHERE but the Red Zone, which makes no fucking sense but w/e.

The Chargers could have won, they got to Brady just enough to make him beatable.  That defense almost carried the game for them but the Offense just couldn't catch any breaks and was really banged up.  After that Rivers INT I dont think they even could go deep anymore (I'll admit I don't have a great memory for every play).

So, you are the NYG's, what do you do?  Will they rush 3-4 and think that they are smart enough to beat Brady with zones or will they just go balls out despite not having anywhere near the secondary SD has?  Does it matter?  Can they even stop the Pats running game which is better then the Packs by a good amount imo?

Patriots, for the 2nd place tie =(

I'll pick the Patriots and hope that my curse kicks in.   

Can I make a pick for some geological event to wipe out both teams.  Guess that would be a tie.

Anyone hear that Rivers had ortho surgery on his knee on the Monday before the game, played the whole goddamn game with a torn ACL and is having surgery to repair the torn ACL? Puts a whole new spin on the "That motherfucker has more balls and grit than I ever could begin to imagine."

Eddie Murphy > Nostradamus (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1798458)

Thats damn tough, give him props for that but I can't help thinking maybe the guy without the torn up knee would have given them a better shot at the win. 


Eddie Murphy the original negrodamus. 

I'm picking the Pats. Perhaps I can add my own suckass curse to their heads.

Seconded. Pity Arizona isn't terribly seismically active. Maybe a swarm of killer bees in each locker room?

Sounds like a great reason for an F13 gathering.   :drill:

Maybe we could beat Brady and Belichick to death with one of schild's new mouse pads!

Beaten to death with the  :awesome_for_real:

Now thats a headline I want to make happen.  And think of the mad hits that would generate.   I'm already wondering how much a BB blood stained mouse pad will go for on ebay. 

I missed the last two rounds of picks in the playoffs due to travel.  I think I should be able to submit those picks now! 

NY in the super bowl.  They should all buy lottery tickets. 

This is the ultimate dissapointment for football fans. As a Cowboys fan, I hate the Giants. As a football fan, I hate the Patriots.

There is absolutely no reason to even throw a party based on this game. I might sit at home and watch golf that Sunday.

But you won't, sucker. You will watch.

NY Giants to win

You could hope for it to be the lowest-scoring superbowl ever.  Or for a tragic injury.  Or something else awesome.

We canceled our party plans (lack of interest amongst family / friends for the involved teams)…

Still, will make it down (I am 5 minutes away from U of "Phoenix" stadium, which is in Glendale, just a short ride down the 101…) to the NFL experience… …and I remember how cool it was back in '96, when it was on the Salt River shore (before it became Tempe Town Lake…) across from Sun Devil, er Frank Kush / Pat Tillman field…

People getting all crazy, reports that some folks are getting 10K+ to rent out their homes for the week, hotels charging like $500+ a night, etc… …let the gouging commence!

Nope, I seriously doubt any of my friends will throw a party for it. If there's no reason to drink booze on a Sunday, then I'll probably play some WoW, check the score on NFL.com, and if NY is up in the 4th, I'll turn it on.

I don't expect it to be even close.

NYG, 31-28. Tynes kicks a 51 yarder with 0:02 left and everyone forgets that he couldn't hit a chip shot against Green Bay.


Yeah, this is so full of   :drill:

Disclaimer:
I'm an EU citizen and only became attracted to American Football in 2002 b/c I moved near a city where some friends of mine started playing in a Team, so I'm only concerned with the sport itself and never became soaked into any team-rivalries (besides I figured no one in the AFC North likes one another) or the history of some teams in daily life.

Nevertheless, I hate the Patriots. Someone in the Thread already said that they are just so easy to hate.

And I like the style the Giants play on defense- reminds me of my beloved Steelers with all the pressure packages that brought them a ring (and which they seemingly forgot in the course of the 08 season...)
AND I like the commercial where Strahan states that he loves his Pancakes with "sum eeeeeegsssss"

So I say- GO GIANTS!

Pats

NE

Duh.

Commercials will be only reason to watch the game but some nerd will no doubt, upload 'em all posthumously, and within hours…

And the whole Escape from New York layers of security lockdown in the area is beyond silly — to the point of banning tailgating…

So I may not even watch the game.

But I hope the football Giants pull it off. That would be epic.

Pats.  I'm not very psyched about the game though.  So much that I agreed to watch it in SD so my wife can see our friend's new flooring.

I don't really care who wins but that flooring sounds very special if they invite people over to see it.  Please post a pic for me!  (http://members.allstream.net/~mervynmc/Other/office.gif)

As someone who is a Giants fan (as much as I can be a sports fan which isn't much), and who lives in New England for all my life, I would LOVE the Giants to win.
Actually, it could be any team and I would want them to beat the Pats.

New England sports fans are tied with New York sports fans (I get to hear both working at a casino) as the most annoying sports fans around.
(Though I am sure Texas football fans would be worse.  Luckily they are a couple time zones away from me.)

But the Patriots will probably win. :(

I hate the Giants. I know the Pats keep on winning and shit, but I'd rather see them win. And for the first time, I find their offense fun to watch. So I'm not exactly a Patriots hater anyways.

I would just like to take this space to say:  Super bowl parties suck.

I'm having a relatively small one and it seems like every time I turn around it's another 80 dollar trip to the grocery store for 1 more thing.

Also, GO GIANTS! Not because I like them, just because, you know, fuck the Pats in their ear.

Throwing any party sucks. That's why I raid other people's houses instead.

Patriots win the entry music battle with Crazy Train.

Testing the DON'T KICK FIELD GOALS AGAINST THE PATRIOTS concept early.

Man, Brady is getting man handled.

But that just makes him angry.






You wouldn't like him when he's angry.

Did NE suddenly forget how to block?

If NY wins this, and Hillary wins that other thing, this place is gonna get ugly.

This game really shows how football is won with the lines and NY is dominating.

It'd be funny if that field goal ended up winning this for the giants. Not that I want them to win.

In spite of NE having the rep of being a little dirty, I just dislike Eli Manning that much.

What a boring game.  Shitty comercials too, except the Budweiser 'Rocky' one.

The Brady/Romo Letters (http://www.collegehumor.com/article:1749089)

Jeez, it's like NE decided it was time to win the game and flipped the switch.

Well, I'll be damned.

I've watched a total of three NFL games this year.

This ending has been one of the better one's I've seen.
 
Down goes Brady!

I'm not a Giant's fan, but I'd love to see the Patriots crying.

And then their D turned the switch right off again.

Nah, Eli won that game with his guts. That play of him getting out of the grasp and completing it for 40 yards was legendary.

Good game. NE lost that game in the first half by not adjusting to NY's pressure.

There is justice in the world.

Suck on that you fucking cheaters.

Oh, and the only reason I wanted NE to win this game so we didn't have to hear from those insufferable 72 Dolphin pricks ever again.

That was a pretty decent game overall I thought.

Yeah I don't watch much sports but that was fun, I'm glad the underdogs won.  I really hate how Fox puts that black bar along the entire top of the screen btw.

Time to pop the champagne, boys!  :drill:

Belicek is such a dick, running off before the final gun…

Yeah, and IN YOUR FACE, BRADY! NO 4 SUPERBOWLS FOR YOU!

Though they may be back again next season…

It was an incredible throw topped by an incredible catch.    Great game overall,  though I'm slightly stunned by the extent of Bellicheck's tantrum throwing.  Walking off the field like that was childish and indefensible.

There is a god.  :awesome_for_real:

Man, that was great. Incredible scramble by Eli, incredible tantrum by Bellicheck.

How about Aikman saying that the Giants might want to punt with 1:50 left in the game. The fuck? Thankg god the Giants weren't that dumb.

I don't like either team, but that was a legendary game, a true super bowl.  Glad the cheatin' Pats lost, glad Eli came out from Peyton's shadow, glad Frank Caliendo picked more winners than any of those empty suits and finally glad that football robot got it's ass terminated.

It was mostly dull, and saved by an incredibly entertaining last few minutes. The highlight was the sensational catch by Tyree.

I don't get all the Eli love after he pulled what he did on draft day. I don't hate the guy, but that was kind of a dickish move.

And on the punt, I think Aikman was talking about if they ended up with a decent sized amount of yardage to go on 4th which isn't an unreasonable option with 3 time outs.

EDIT: Oh, I should also note that I thought NE made a huge mistake by not running it when they got down to the 7. They could easily have given the ball back to the Giants with under 2 minutes left instead of 2:30. Would have made a big difference.

The closeness of the score really kept me interested despite quite a few three and outs.

With 1:50 left? Even at 4th and 10 seems pretty stupid to me, especially after NE just put together a good drive and the Giant's D was looking tired. Best you can hope for is getting the ball back with 1:20 left and probably no timeouts. If they do score a 1st then you're fucked, and even if they don't you've got a minute to go down the field for a TD.

HAHAHAHA FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just want to say eat a shit sandwich Brady and Bellicheck.

 :drill:

Who was the MVP?

I would choose someone on the Giants D personally.

The girl singing the Star Spangled Banner did a phenomenal job.  Am I the only person that gets choked up a bit when I hear a really good rendition of it?

Boring game, with the exception of the last 4 minutes or so. 
Two good commercials (Bud Clydesdale Rocky, Stock Trading Baby)
Not having a dog in the fight, I was pushing for NE, just to shut Don Shula the fuck up.  Not an Eli fan, but not a Brady fan either.  Coin toss for the game if it werent for history being on the line.

If Strahan or the other DE didn't get MVP, they're doing it wrong.  Those two guys played lights out every single play.

4th and anything over 4 is a very low percentage play and your game is basically done. If you punt, you can get a turn over on the catch and NE is likely to run three low-yard plays. You will get the ball back with 1:20-1:25 in pretty much the same place or advance if you get a good return. Offense can be effective without TO's. I'm not saying it is a slam dunk call to punt, but it isn't unreasonable in that circumstance.

Fuck the giants. No love here. Fuck underdogs too.

And fuck Eli Manning. (And yes, I do mean that in the gayest way possible.)

I realize only now that I didn't give a shit about either team playing in the superbowl this year.

Go Giants!

But the game provided one of the most moronic and stupid things I have heard all week.

Ok, I am at work. I work in Connecticut.  

One of my co workers loudly wonders how anyone could be happy the Giants won.

I chime in that I was happy they won and have been a fan for over 20 years.

She meanly tells me that I am clearly not a New Englander.

I reply that I have lived in this state all my life and was born here.

She told me to get out of the state and go to New York.  :awesome_for_real:

And this folks, is why I hate New England sports fans.

Apparently mulitmillion dollar ENTERTAINMENT organizations who only care about how much money they can make off us are really special or some shit.

I'll hand it to the giants for one thing -- that damn sack, second down (?), last minute. That's animated gif worthy for sure.

Gotta love the so called coach of the year running out like a little bitch at the end.    Cheaters never win :D

As a cowboys fan I have to hate the giants but I have to give them props for manhandling the patriots.  THANK FUCKING GOD. 

I must have missed him running off like that. There was that confusion on the final second, so I left the room. I remember Bellicheck thinking the game was over though, and he came out and hugged Coughlin. Unless you guys were expecting him to give him a blowjob, I don't see what he was being a bitch about.

I may have missed thtat being as drunk as I am but he was in the tunnel with time left on the clock.  Didn't see the hug and whatnot but being at a  bar colors my peception a little.  Hell things will be clearer tomorroe but for now the perfect season is the dolphins alone and I am happy. 

They gave the car to Eli  :oh_i_see:

Edit:
Oh, and whoever said some "nerd" would record the ads and put them an yt:
www.nfl.com/videos

They just did it themselves to save the nerd some time.

And I got a hundred and fifty bucks out of this. Sweet. (I knew it. I knew it since forever).

I don't see how you could call that a boring game. Great defensive game, I loved it. The Pats secondary was all over the place and the G-Men were dominant on the line. Dominant. I think Osi howeveryouspellhislastname was a contender for MVP until Eli made that scramble play. That's legendary football, the underdog stands up to take his place in the most perfect way possible, the qb's dream to have the ball with 4 timeouts and the game on the line, just enough time to drive down for the TD. Almost the perfect game imo.

On the negative front, cut Plaxico. He kept giving up on his routes and my boss (who's a crazy Steelers fan) was always bitching about him doing that in Pitt. The Gints are a pretty good team without the deadwood like the dropsy Tiki.

Great moments outside the game: Peyton cheering on the game-winning TD and (41 yr old) Feagles telling his wife and kids "Just take it all in."

Plax put such a move on that DB that anyone in the stands could have completed that last TD pass.  Just saying.

HOLY SHIT

Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning.

One just kind of chokes on the thought. I have talked so much shit about Eli and the Giants all season, and they fucking win the Super Bowl. And they didn't just win it, they DESERVED TO WIN based on their play. Their defense made plays. Their coverage guys made plays, and their coverage guys have been shitty most of the year. Eli threw one pick that was completely not his fault and completed two TD drives against an aging but talented defense.

Say what you want about Plaxico Burress. He's played the entire season on a sprained ankle with torn ligaments. He didn't practice all year, but started every game and played hurt. Yeah, he may give up on some routes, but some guys (Randy Moss) wouldn't have played hurt like he did. And he put a good move on that DB at the end.

Their Defensive Line won them that game, pure and simple. Great pressure, stopped the run and plastered Brady a number of times.

That Tyree catch after the Manning amazo-scramble was, as others have said, legendary. The Giants deserved that win and I'm glad they got it, no matter how much of a douchebag I think Eli was on draft day. He proved me wrong, because I thought he was never going to be more than an average QB. I think he visit Tiki Barber on the set and drop a fruit basket on his shoulder. And I don't mean the kind with shrink wrap and assorted fruits, either.

Ding dong, the witch is dead!

Couldn't have happened to a bigger bunch of cocksucking cheating assholes. Hopefully their plane will make a sudden uncontrolled flight into the Rockies on the way back home.

I am not a Giants fan by any stretch, so I was vaguely nauseous rooting for them. My wife, who (other than the Seahawks) is a very casual football fan, was jumping around and yelling during the last drive. Proof positive that it ain't hard to hate the Patriots.

Eat a dick, Belichick. Hopefully crazy old Arlen will take you down a peg or twelve.

Giants Defencive Line won that game. How Eli gets MVP I don't know?  Does it just go to the QB automaticly now?

Based on the amount of cock-sucking the commentators do to the QBs during the season, I'd say yes.


Yeah, the clock had run out and everyone was on the field, the two coaches did the hug/ handshake thing and then the refs started pushing folks off because they'd put :01 back on the clock.  The NFL required there to be one more play (wtf, why?)  and after about 3 mins they got the field cleared and got the last snap in.  Billy was in the tunnel long before they got the field cleared, and may or may not have known the game wasn't officially over.   

I go with the 'dick move' version myself, based on the look on his face.

The Super Bowl MVP isn't like Madden's horse trailer, you generally have to pick one person.  Tuck, Osi, Strahan and Mitchell (and various others) all had big impacts on defense and it's hard to single out a single player that made the biggest one (personally I think it was Tuck).   

I don't see much fault in giving the MVP to a QB that led two fourth quarter touchdown drives when his team needed it the most and was 1/2 of one of the greatest plays in Super Bowl history.

You watch football?  For some reason, I wasn't expecting that.

Baring a RB running for some crazy-retarded amount of yardage or a complete shut-out by a defensive player (the Giants rotated their D-line throught the game to keep 'em fresh so it was really their whole line) it'll usually go to the QB.  Field general and all.

Yeah, because hearing from the insufferable 07 Patriots pricks for another 40 years would have been awesome.  At least the Dolphins are going to die soon.

Do you know something we don't, Sidereal?

It wasn't great watching the Giants win because I don't like the Giants either, but I'm sick of the Boston teams. I want them all to get ground into dust for the next few decades so their fans will shut up again.

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Yes


The problem is that when Boston fans are losing they blanket the whole fucking country with their somber suffering and curse bullshit.  Like their pain is so much more important than everyone else's.  I'm rooting for them to hover in .500 mediocrity for the next 50 years.  Except the Bruins.  They're alright.

Living in CT all my life is probably why I have such low interest in sports and what interest I do have is not for local teams.
New England sports fans are complete fucking morons who take entertainment too seriously.  (Like the old bitch I mentioned in this thread earlier.)
I mention playing tabletop RPGs?  I am a big loser OMG.
Yet babbling endlessly about the Red Sox or Patriots is perfectly fucking acceptable.
(And my passtime doesn't have 2-3 hours of NOTHING in between the 1 hour actually worth giving a shit about.)
Both things are merely pleasant time wasters that should be better spent improving the world in some way.

Just once has been decreed as a socially acceptable thing to do, blat on about endlessly, and treat as far more important than it really is.

Wait.. I thought you were a giants fan. Are you saying that you're just glad the pats lost because umm... you feel ostracized in your locale for playing tabletop games? Hmm.

Did you just make comparisons between talking about sports and talking about tabletop RPGs? The reason talking about local sports is considered "normal" by the average populace is that a very large percentage of the populace has played them at some point in their lives. That, and it's something you can rally around with your colleagues because it's a common experience. You all watched the same game, and then you can interpret the results in your own way.

Gaming (PC, RPG, TCG, etc.) don't have that same connection. You can't go up to your colleagues and go MAN, did you catch that M:TG tournament on FOX? What a jackass that guy was for pulling out that card in the 5th round, huh? It's a niche time-waster that always have varied results. Inevitably you aren't talking about the same experiences; you are simply comparing your own experiences at best. The lack of common experience sort of makes the conversation dull in my book. I've tried talking about WoW with people that play it. It's nowhere near as amusing as talking about hockey, or the Superbowl, or college football conferences and matchups and BCS controversy.

Sports that require skill, physics and intelligence usually win the overall interest contest over (mind-)sports relying mostly on intelligence and luck.

That said, it was an awesome SB. Luckily I'm around a lot of football nerds here in Austria so I could enjoy those 8 hours (starting 8pm to 1am kickoff time- nearly dropped my exam today) of pure show and sports with people who are as passionate as anyone in the US could be about that game.

We too couldn't get our behind-ends back on our seats the final minutes of the game- most exciting SB I've ever seen (starting with the Pats "can I kick it?" over the rams). I just love games that are dominated by defenses though they are facing offenses that are usually more than capable of scoring.

And I think I already said it, but those pats really deserved that. Even by just being able to get coverage via nfl.com and their videos, you really could get a feeling of the pricketness (spellcheck?) they presented while you had a fun having bunch on the other side.

But, season's over- looking forward to the draft already and seeing my beloved steelers playing again in 7 months- my local cable-tv provider finally got NASN into their program  :heartbreak: :heartbreak: :heartbreak:!!

I am.
The Patriots losing is just doubly rad.  :drill:
(To quote Homer Simpson:  IT WORKS ON SO MANY LEVELS!)
Actually, I would have been happy for the Pats to have lost to just about anyone but the Cowboys.
I just enjoy the misery of New England area sports fans because they take this shit entirely too seriously.
Then again, a great many of the world's problems come from taking shit too seriously.

Now you know it!

AND THUS, YOU CAN'T UN.. KNOW IT.

Why? I watch and enjoy football AND american football. I love them both, for different reasons.

So do I. Nothing wrong with loving football of all kinds.

Nah, thats fine, it's just that your not American as I recall (where the hell are you from actually?), and I was under the impression very few people outside the US watch Football.

Dude?  NFL Europe?  It's huger than Hasselhoff over there.

That really deserves a more vivid shade of green.

So has NFL Europe had its cheeseburger breakdown too?

I am from an old old country with a huge History which is going down the drain at the speed of light. More like at the speed of money, politics and commercials.

I got interested in American Football in 1983 by stumbling randomly on Burt Reynolds and The Longest Yard, and the Superbowl with Washington Redskins and Charlie Brown. I was a kid and couldn't believe a player had the name of the Peanuts' character.

Madly in love ever since.

A Boston guy in my office bet another guy in the office before the season began that the Pats would win the Superbowl. No odds, just straight up for $500. Idiot almost won.

So you ARE American!


But seriously, now I have to know.  England?  Italy?  Latveria?

How can anyone who's been here more than fifteen minutes not know where Falconeer lives?  Even I know and I suck at knowing stuff.

Some of us have the long-term memory of a goldfish.

I'm from Signe's mom's country.  :pedobear:
And Feet, you know just because we talked about it on IRC.

But it's true, I randomly complained about my country too many times.
Let's just say I am Southern European, but would prefer to live in the north.

You want to be from Estonia, don't you?

Oh, so close.

My favourite place to be right now is just 48 miles north of Tallinn, Estonia.

The middle of the Baltic Sea? :P

I know an incredible number of Lithuanian immigrants, and they've all convinced me the whole Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania area is gorgeous.

The women certainly are. 

I don't do the QFT or seconded very much, but this is very, very true.

I don't doubt that, but my businesses are in Finland.  :pedobear: