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Neocron 2 is  finally getting a PvP and PvE revamp (ver 2.2) early next week.  Haven't played since the 2.0 upgrade two years ago (??) but here are the details:



Despite it's many problems I always enjoyed Neocron; although the graphics were behind the curve, I always thought it captured the dark  gritty cyberpunk setting perfectly.  Great atmosphere.  Lot's of fun times in Pepper Park oogling strippers and PvPing.

Will be definately giving the 30 days free thing a go, and may even re up depending.

Site is here:

http://ng.neocron.com/index.php?id=1

What is the deal with Neocron anyway?  I remember reading about them scrapping the Dome of York xpack, and just starting over and calling it Neocron 2, or something?

Is it the same game with more content, a total redo of the original, or what?

Neocron 2 included the second city (Dome of York) and updated the player character models.  Update 2.1, I believe added new and upgraded weapon  models and revamped outdoor areas.  It looks like 2.2 is more of a long overdue balancing upgrade to both PvP and PvE.

Oooooh, you bet your sweet ass I will be playing.  About Goddamn time they fixed billing (4+ years later). 

Whos coming with me?

I tried, but the damned download was corrupt, and I'm to lazy to redownload it from somewhere else.

I seem to recall having problems with it last time I tried nabbing a copy of the client to check out the trial.

Shame, too.  I'm so tired of orcs and elves, I've taken up playing Eve.

I downloaded it from the XFire link on the trial page since I had misplaced my install cds.    If you have XFire installed, it dowloads the setup files through the XFire client (I think it's resumeable too).  Everytthing installed fine.

Yeah, I got it off Xfire.

Hmm, I'll give it another whirl, and see what happens.

I remember getting my beta 2 or beta 3 CDs in a package from Germany.

That was awesome.

You know its funny but I recently starting missing my cyberpunk fix and was thinking about Neocron (sufering from a bit of Eve burnout)

At least I now wont have to pay to go back and remember all the reasons I quit  :wink:

So when does this actually start do they know yet?

I think March 12, from the announcment on the forum.

Perfect.  If enough people are interested we can look into doing a Bat Country thing.  I will make a post next week asking for suckers people who are interested.

Interesting. I am downloading it right now.

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Ok, I just toyed with Neocron for 2 hours.

Ugh! I feel like my soul has just been shot.

What.....The......Fuck

They've taken this long (since Dec 2005) to 'rebalance' (read: nerf) pretty much anyone who tried to multi-class (I guess they need to increase subscription numbers and figured that getting everyone to need multiple accounts was the best way to do it) yet they still cant fix some of the shit thats been wrong SINCE LAUNCH!

I cut the graphics slack (probably in the same way that old school EQ1 players do) but the game still fatal runtimes on you frequently, still takes 2 attempts to login, scenery still floats in mid air in places (military base retail area seems to be the worst place I've seen so far) and now PVE is harder, multi-classers punished harder and yet again the monks seem to get hit with the nerf bat the hardest

Good job I knew I wouldn't be staying

I liked it back in the day, it was very good PVP. Outpost battles owned.

Maybe I'll give it a shot...PM me Chedd

For those that dont know, making a clan in NC2 requires that you have finished your factions Epic Run (which requires I think rank 40 to finish - although you can drug up to get the missions) and then pay several hundred thousand credits for a clan apartment once you have 90 (IIRC) faction sympathy with your faction to gain access to the supply manager who sells it.

Oh and you all have to be the same faction to be in the same clan (I know this sounds obvious but NC has loads of different factions despite having 2 'sides' to the conflict)

The d/l aborted on me, I dont care enough to figure out why.

Well, I have been playing, and am torn about the game.  On the one hand, it is the grindy hardcore open PvP world I remember, WITH STRIPPERS, and a plethora of skill options and things to do.

On the other hand, levelling as a nubcake is a bitch.  A BITCH.  Ammo and other supplies seem to have a higher TL now; this means as a nooblet spy I was SOL after I ran out of ammo with my gun.  I got pissed off enough to try out my old nooblet APU.  Well, same issue.  I ended up running bullshit kill missions until my recycle was high enough to make kits/psi shots; within 10 minutes of this my damn main weapon broke.

Of course I do not have enough repair to fix it, so I am stuck using a noob spell module for a bit.  I did get some blueprints made up, though, and am just getting the scratch together to upgrade to a new module.  Hopefully I get out of class in time to do this tonight.  Not sure if I enjoy being a Psi monk currently; I will probably stick with him for awhile in the hopes that they improve in a patch or two.

OK, the hump I am experiencing is due to changes with the new patch.  IS ANYONE PLAYING, OR WILLING TO LOG IN THEIR ACCOUNT TO HELP ME TRANSFER SOME SHIT?

If I can get some scratch over to my guy in Neocron it will help me out immensely.  I am Proto Pharma all the way, and will stay as such. Lemme know ASAP if you can help me out!

Man, if I had the time, I would certainly help you out, but I never went over to NC2 when they released so it would also cost me some cash. So why did I post? To give you hope. No, seriously, NC was a really enjoyable game during beta and for several months after release. I'm sure it's still just as fun as in the past, but it's a shame to hear about the adjustments. Ah, well. Perhaps when I retire I can play again.

[edit]Aha! I should have known. There's a free trial. I could probably help you transfer stuff, but it wouldn't be until next week, mid-week sometime. Drop me a line if you need me to do that.[/edit]

Lemme see what i can do as well chedd.

Disregard.  I just hooked up with one of my friends in game (funny how they remember you even after 2+ years) and it turns out she is one of the richest, if not the richest, people currently subbed.  If you want on the gravy train lemme know; Fallen Angels is the faction we are in. 

lonely guy? huh?

What?

Maybe referring to low population?

Is it a dead world Chedd?

Yeah PvE got a serious nerf, I used to run aggressor captain missions end over end last time I played to raise cash and symp, now I can bearly kill a captain 1-on-1 (although I admit I havent used all my Psi skill points released in the reset) and the loot they drop and the cash for the kill is now shit (fortunately for me the spawn rate down in the cellars seems to have been nerfed as well - although I wont usually see that as a 'bad thing')

I would probably give the game a shot if I didnt have to re-level. The OP wars were very cool. Implant system was pretty sweet, as well as drugs :)

I wish I still had the info for my friend's Pistol PE. Or my old PSI monk.

You can transfer old characters over, and getting you some levels is easy as pie (I know a sekret way to level ya as a nooblet).  When I said my buddy was the richest person in game I was not joking; she is a super tradeswoman type with hundreds of millions of credits.  In 4 hours I was a mid level psi guy with plenty of creds!

I cant believe Neocron still has horrible account payment problems. I found an old friend and we were going to try out NC, too bad paypal is totally fubared for them with US accounts. 'Should be fixed by Monday'... I wonder how many people they lost or never got because of Click2play previous to that. A shame really, some of the best PVP ive ever experienced was in NC.

They broke PvE mechanics completely; do not bother with it right now.

I wouldnt be playing for PvE anyways. :)

Did this 2.2 thing update the graphics enough to make them stop looking like ass, or perhaps add some actual story to the factions you join and perform missions for?  I remember downloading the trial they released with Neocron 2, playing for about an hour, realizing, "This looks like it was made from the Half Life 1 engine and has no content whatsoever.", and deleting it.

Same graphics, less stable, cannot level easily since mobs are borked.  It is truly amazing; right when you think they could not do worse (read: having 2/3 the playerbase not able to subscribe for about 2 years) they fix the subscription and ruin gameplay.  And I am not exagerating.  Nor spelling well.

The original game was actually made from the Quake 2 engine, which is what Half Life 2 was originally made from.

Going on 2 weeks I havent been able to give them money. Their US based Paypal thing is completely fuxxored.

It dies.....It DIES!!!!

Odd, I seem to recall that one of the engines (IIRC NC uses two enginers one for indoors and another for outdoors) was Genesis3D

http://www.genesis3d.com/

I might give it a try Cheddar. I need something different from WOW.

I wonder what the chances are that he's actually still playing....

You better not quit now that I am finally gonna hit 70, you bastard!

Good luck, I have been trying to get a trial account for roughly 2 and a half weeks. Paypal U.S. accounts are messed up.

Oh well, Im over it I guess...cause like Signe said, chances of Chedds still playing is slim.

I know I seem fickle (I am) and generally flighty, but let me be serious for a moment.

Do not bother with this game.

I can recommend a lot of other ones.  Neocron has a history of issues, ranging from poor patching to ditching fixes in the game in a need to release a half finished expansion.  Neocron 2?  Its the same as Neocron 1, with the same bugs (technically more) and issues with billing.  And by issues I mean the main issue is many banks will not let you sub to it.  For serious.

It's amazing the things we have to go through to get our fix.

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Best decision ever.  This will bring me back.

It amazes me that this game is still alive.

Though I had some awesome PVP experiences in it, I could not go back.

So what DoY will be totally empty now as opposed to both cities being only half empty......

The population disposition was never the problem, the problem was the lack of population

I probably would give it a go again as well.  While the lack of population contributed to the problem, the convoluted and poor  design of DOY (like one of those weird Dante's inferno paintings with stairways to nowhere) was probably one of the main reasons that people just didn't make characters there.

Man I miss the pick up battles in Pepper Park and having to run through there with eyes in the back of your head.

I cannot shake this game from my dreams.  What the fuck is wrong with me?


I dreamed another dev house (with decent management) picked this up last night.  For the first time in years I woke up with Jizz all over my underwear.


I am tempted to resub.

Chedd, you are a sick, sick man.

I miss it too.

I dunno what it is.  Its like being molested by your uncle, then after years of therapy and homosexual sex you realize you actually enjoyed it.

And pay him 15 dollars for more.

Or so I hear.

For reals, this is the only game to keep sucking me back in constantly.  Only catch is I need to start from scratch; last time I returned insane people who recognized me ruined the experience (this is a story in and of itself).  I am thinking that I need to get a sub, make a new character, and somehow transfer stuff over to fund my new guy.  Just one last hit, before I quit.

How about just resub, play untwinked, and see how it goes. Then you will know for sure if you are actually having fun or not. Unless the twinking part is the fun for you, in which case... I dunno.

Part of what I loved about the game was the implant / drug systems.

They wouldnt let me transfer my old account over to NC2 because there wasn't any personal information listed, or some shit...even though I had the old UN/password and responded from the email on the account.  So I'm basically done for good. As much as I tried to give them money, they didn't want it.

You were probably spared hassle anyway, I only managed to transfer 1 character (a male psi monk) because all 3 of my other characters (none of which were male psi monks) were only given the choice of the new male psi monk skins.

Tech support chewed on that for _months_ before finally telling me that I either needed to accept the fact that my other 3 characters were going to have to look like male psi monks forever or restart them from scratch - fortunately none of them were particularly high level so I recreated them but lost the opportunity to carry over what little equipment the transfer actually let you carry (and they gave you a set number of credits dependant on your rank regardless of how much cash you actually had)

Who dosn't want to play a cyberpunk MMO?

The barrier for me has always been the billing... There was simply no option for me to subscribe.. None. Thats not good, considering the free trial also wants subscription info (also, another bad move).

I played it in beta and for a while before the umpteenth delaying of fixes. (it'll be fixed in the Dome of York expansion, really!)


Great potential, wasted. Never going to resub for the same reason as AO: That ship has sailed.

The big problem with Neocro for me was the death penalty. It was WAY too harsh. You die, you spawn WAY far away from where you were at, you lose any drugs you took and your implants pop out... now you can't even equip your weapon because your stats suck... yada, yada, yada...

As a Noob, you die once and realize you're going to have to spend the next hour or two getting resetup and back to where you were at and you just say "Ya know what? Screw this."