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Title: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 03, 2006, 10:27:24 PM
Bass is too loud in single player.

Vocals are dick on nearly all the songs I wanted to be playing (Sweet Child, Freebird, etc).

Feels more like you're trying to beat a game than play along with a song.

Hearty Meh.

More soon.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: NiX on November 03, 2006, 10:36:16 PM
Say it ain't so :( Oh well, Gears is coming, less money to spend if this really does suck. Did you get the new SG?


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: squirrel on November 03, 2006, 10:36:52 PM
Hearty Meh.

Shoulda waited for the 360 version. Just sayin.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 03, 2006, 11:15:20 PM
Why would I wait? I'll pick up the 360 version for the downloadable content. It's the vocals that really kill it though.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: NiX on November 03, 2006, 11:18:11 PM
Are the covers as good as the last games?


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: squirrel on November 03, 2006, 11:26:02 PM
Why would I wait? I'll pick up the 360 version for the downloadable content. It's the vocals that really kill it though.

I have no PS2 and even fewer dreams. Don't crush them. Please.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Trippy on November 03, 2006, 11:26:16 PM
YYZ was good. I played the demo at one of my local GameStops after putting in a last minute "preorder" for FF XII. No vocals on that song though.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: stray on November 04, 2006, 01:30:23 AM
YYZ should be on "Drum Hero" instead.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Trippy on November 04, 2006, 01:38:37 AM
YYZ should be on "Drum Hero" instead.
Yeah but that's only for the live version.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: stray on November 04, 2006, 05:13:19 PM
I was surprised to walk into EB earlier and hear the Butthole Surfers playing. The actual track sucked though. I barely could hear the vocals.

Lol to Schild wanting to play Freebird.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 04, 2006, 06:18:05 PM
I nearly beat Freebird the first time through. YYZ was harder.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Morfiend on November 04, 2006, 10:49:32 PM
Why would I wait? I'll pick up the 360 version for the downloadable content. It's the vocals that really kill it though.

So your saying your going to pick up two different copies of a meh game?


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Nija on November 04, 2006, 11:32:18 PM
GH2 sucks? You're out of your fucking mind.

Bass too loud? Take your balls out of your purse and try playing it again.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 05, 2006, 12:08:03 AM
We'll see if the final version is better than the demos I've been on, if not, well, I've got 5 people who played it in my house and it's pretty meh.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Nija on November 05, 2006, 11:06:11 AM
Oh, I've got the final version here and it's awesome. The demo(s) are earlier versions of the GUI and everything.

Only thing that sucks is the song line up for certain sets. I'm stuck at like level 7 or 8 because I don't know any of these songs, and you have to pass all 4 to move on, instead of 4/5. My choices are lamb of god, reverend horton heat, "carry me home" by some band I don't remember (impossible song) and something else that I passed, I think the Anthrax tune.

You've got audio/video lag adjustments for DLPs/what-have-you and it now supports widescreen and 480p.

ALSO, if you have the 10 song demo there with the hacked song list from the guy on scorehero.com, you CANNOT TELL ME (it's not possible) that Freebird and Jessica coop aren't the best thing ever. Drunk or not.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Signe on November 05, 2006, 11:21:50 AM
I didn't bother with this one.  I have two professional musicians in my family, guitar is one of their primary instruments and one of them can play nearly anything he picks up.  I bought the first Guitar Hero and gave it to him but he thought it was pretty naff.  So I gave it to the other and he didn't like it a bit.  Finally, having run out of anyone close to me who might want it, I ended up giving it to a couple of little kids my sister knows.  I suppose I should have known better. 


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 05, 2006, 01:39:25 PM
ALSO, if you have the 10 song demo there with the hacked song list from the guy on scorehero.com, you CANNOT TELL ME (it's not possible) that Freebird and Jessica coop aren't the best thing ever. Drunk or not.

Coop didn't work for us on the hacked version. Jessica and Freebird were by far the best things on there. Everything else, shit. Really just Jessica though.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Signe on November 05, 2006, 05:23:07 PM
ALSO, if you have the 10 song demo there with the hacked song list from the guy on scorehero.com, you CANNOT TELL ME (it's not possible) that Freebird and Jessica coop aren't the best thing ever. Drunk or not.

Coop didn't work for us on the hacked version. Jessica and Freebird were by far the best things on there. Everything else, shit. Really just Jessica though.

(http://www.fotosearch.fr/comp/BDX/BDX364/bxp125336.jpg)



Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Sky on November 06, 2006, 08:33:54 AM
Jessica and Freebird are on my worklist. Jessica more than Freebird. Liz Reed is on there, too, and Stateboro Blues, which I decided to go ahead and learn in standard tuning so I could jam on it more instead of playing rote learned open-E stuff (because I mostly slide in open-D), so it's tougher because I don't have the tabs for it in standard tuning.

Oh, this is the fake guitar thread :P


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: climbjtree on November 06, 2006, 04:06:33 PM
Yes, my friend, this may infact be the fake guitar thread, but around this time tomorrow I'll be wailin' away on my cherry red fake guitar.

That's right, I'll let no sour review of Guitar Hero 2 put my aspirations of rockstardom down!


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 07, 2006, 04:29:41 AM
Final version is MUCH better than the demo I hadd. It's almost as good as the first one.

That demo was not meant to be fucked with.

So I FINALLY BEAT The Sword's Freya and managed to trash Heart, Aerosmith and one other one in that tier (Aerosmith was the encore from the previous tier) on the first try. Rock This Town Is Rocking my Ass. It's too awkward for me. But I fucking smoked jessica. I hit like 1041 of the 1200 notes. It was SICK. Didn't even need to use star power. FELT LIKE A ROCK GOD. Considering it was my second try. I've beat a good handful of the extra stuff already.

Basically, good stuff, not quite as good as the first. Jessica and Carry On My Wayward Son are the best tracks thus far. Oh and Freezepop's "Less Talk More Rokk," but I'm biased towards them.



Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Nija on November 07, 2006, 07:06:37 AM
I beat that same tier after getting murdered on Freya, and I'm stuck on the next one and haven't retried yet. Giving it a few days to rest after a many hour GH2 binge.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Nebu on November 07, 2006, 08:06:42 AM
YYZ should be on "Drum Hero" instead.

I'd argue "Bass Hero".  Throw on some Stanley Clarke and Primus and you've got a game.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Nija on November 07, 2006, 09:19:19 AM
Primus is in this one and you can play the bass part.

Schild did you start out on Expert? I gotta come clean. I'm getting stuck on hard.

I think I need to play through medium so I can hear how some of these songs are supposed to sound. That or spend time in the practice area.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Sky on November 07, 2006, 11:13:40 AM
I'll be wailin' away on my cherry red fake guitar.
I admit I'm tempted to get a ps2 for this game and the original, they sound like fun. I chuckle, too, because that controller is based on the same guitar I play:

(image snip) Better yet:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iacZDoXaVQ


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 07, 2006, 12:04:17 PM
Primus is in this one and you can play the bass part.

Schild did you start out on Expert? I gotta come clean. I'm getting stuck on hard.

I think I need to play through medium so I can hear how some of these songs are supposed to sound. That or spend time in the practice area.


Started on expert. Anything else is the Diet Coke of gaming. Just not fun enough.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: MrHat on November 07, 2006, 12:04:54 PM
Can you play coop through the career mode?


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 07, 2006, 12:05:14 PM
Nope. Coop is always quick play.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: MrHat on November 07, 2006, 12:07:07 PM
Gay.  Why do developers not understand that lots of people like to play Career mode.  And when friends are over, there's something to be had accomplishing something together.  This game is only fun to watch for  so long.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: StGabe on November 07, 2006, 12:09:24 PM
Co-op question:

Can my wife play on easy while I play on hard?


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 07, 2006, 12:09:48 PM
Hat:
Impossible. First of all, guitar hero 2 coop is crazy harder. Second of all, you can pick your instrument and pick your difficulty. They would have had to make an entirely new difficulty. While they could have done that, they also could've just put it under Quick Play and made it a high score contest. Which is much more fun anyway.

There aren't two people on the planet who could've beaten a career mode expert of Guitar Hero 2 the first time through and unlocked the songs. They'd kill eachother on songs like Jessica. Literally, it would be an all out brawl.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 07, 2006, 12:10:18 PM
Co-op question:

Can my wife play on easy while I play on hard?

Yes, it is exactly why there is no career mode in coop.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: MrHat on November 07, 2006, 12:12:47 PM
Guess I'll wait and see.

Makes more sense in my mind to add another difficulty level.  Or just throw it in there, impossible challenges keep the game interesting non?


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 07, 2006, 12:14:15 PM
Like I just said, that other difficulty level is called Quick Play. And it begins with you never ever ever beating YYZ on Expert*Expert.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Nija on November 07, 2006, 12:15:37 PM

Started on expert. Anything else is the Diet Coke of gaming. Just not fun enough.

You are going to hate life on that next tier after Rock This Town. It's like they took all the obscure songs and put them in a row.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 07, 2006, 03:22:56 PM
Nah. It's not bad. I do good with the shredding shit. I'm worse at rhythm.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: climbjtree on November 07, 2006, 09:20:24 PM
I'm having a hard enough time with the Fret Work section on medium.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Llava on November 08, 2006, 05:47:21 AM
http://www.ahjteam.com/gh3vote/

Unofficial site, but they're consolidating votes for Guitar Hero 3 track list.

I know I'll never see Talking Heads- Pyscho Killer in the game, but I can try.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: stray on November 08, 2006, 06:17:06 AM
Hmm...David Byrne doesn't really scream "guitar hero" to me.

Tina Weymouth was the instrumentalist in that band....But...She didn't play the guitar.

It's better than all the knuckleheads voting for Metallica though.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Trippy on November 08, 2006, 07:08:12 AM
Hmm...David Byrne doesn't really scream "guitar hero" to me.
It's only interesting if you get to wear an oversized baggy suit, play an acoustic guitar and have a boombox as accompaniment.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Sky on November 08, 2006, 07:45:17 AM
Whole Lotta Rosie. She ain't exactly pretty. She ain't exactly small. She should be in GH3.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Jeff Kelly on November 22, 2006, 03:15:21 AM
Well I bought the game yesterday and so far it is as fun as the first one.

The difficulty has gone up a notch or two. Songs like cheap tricks' "surrender" would have been much higher level in GH1.

Two or three things I don't like about GH2 (which are some of the things I already didn't like about GH1):

1. The difficulty of the songs of a certain section can be worlds apart. In GH1 the Queens of the Stone Age (the only song on medium that I cannot get a five-star rating for *sigh*) song for example is way harder than any of the other songs in the same section. So the step from easy as pie to teethgrindingly difficult is sometimes only one song.

Some of the songs are harder on lower difficulties than they are on expert (best example from GH1 is bark at the moon, which in my opinion is easier to play on expert than it is on hard).

2. Most of the songs lack the certain punch, they don't rock hard enough. I always have the feeling that the songs are a bit too soft and mellow when compared to the original. The vocals are usually the weakest part of the songs. Well one could argue that the quality of the vocals shouldn't be a concern for a game that's called guitar hero but it is one aspect of why the songs are sometimes not really spectacular. Best example "killing in the name of" in my opinion it is one of the worst songs in GH2. I like the original but the GH2 cover version just sucks compared to it. The guitars don't have the punch of the real Tom Morello and the singer never even comes close to Zack de la Rochas quality and the bass which is central to the song is just weak.

Also some of the songs are boring as hell, which brings me to the next point.

3. song selection. In GH1 the song selection was way better. In GH2 half of the songs I played are boring and I don't see that I would play them over and over again. Especially the first ten or fifteen songs (excluding the encores which are all great) are lackluster.

I also cannot quite understand why they chose certain songs. When you use a RATM song why killing in the name? It is the weakest song on the whole album. Bulls on parade, people of the sun, bombtrack, Wake up. There are plenty of choices from the debut or any other album that would have been better songs IMHO.

If Van Halen, why the Kinks cover you really got me? Why not use the original? Why not use any other half decent Van Halen song? Right now, Ain't talking bout love, hot for teacher, anything other than a stupid cover version.

The same can be said for other bands. I would have chose different Kiss or Motley crue songs for example. But that is a very subjective opinion because in GH2 there are a certain number of songs that I just hate with a passion (Cherry Pie or you really got me).

No Journey, no Metallica, no led zeppelin etc.

I liked the song selection in GH1 better than the one in GH2. GH2 has more songs but more often than not worse ones than GH1.

This might sound llike I do not like the game but that is not the case. It is as fun as the first one and I came two hours late for work today because I kept playing it until 3 a.m. but it could have been a better game if they had chosen some different songs in my opinion.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: trias_e on November 22, 2006, 05:57:40 AM
Two comments:

1)  Mine stopped working after having it for about a week.  I don't see any visible scratches on the disc.  It has about a 50% chance of just plain failing on the song select screen.

2)  Fuck you buckethead.  I'll never be able to finish that song on expert.  Not having every song finished on expert makes me cry.

3)  Where's Maiden or a decent Priest song?  I'd love to rip out some screaming for vengeance or stained class on GH.  I also kind of which they had Motorhead again.  Oh well.

4)  2=4!


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Sky on November 22, 2006, 07:19:42 AM
Quote
When you use a RATM song why killing in the name?
You've never played the song live or been in a mosh pit when a band has played it live? In the 90s, people went batshit when that song came out. It's like a 'fuck the man' anthem. I was running sound for a band that lost a contract for playing that song, I've been ejected with about a dozen other people for moshing during it. Which is all pretty ironic. Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me, indeed.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Abagadro on November 23, 2006, 11:27:23 PM
I played this stuff (both I and II) for the first time tonight at my fam-damly T-giving dinner. I was mostly playing against my 11 year old nephew but also beating the crap out of my brother in law. Holy crap that game is fun. Makes me want to pick up my old axe and start wailing away.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Merusk on November 24, 2006, 05:17:26 AM
No Journey, no Metallica, no led zeppelin etc.

Metallica you can probably blame Lars for.  They're pretty damn tight on controlling their 'ip' since all the Napster shit.  Journey I dunno, but Led probably wanted too much fucking cash for the songs.

All 3 bands are more concerned with money, imo, than entertaining folks.

The one I'm still puzzling is Hangar 18.  Yeah, one of the best Megadeth albums ever but Tornado of Souls or Lucretia were much better 'guitar' songs. Not to mention Lucretia is almost 2 mins shorter.  Hangar's 5:13. Ow, pain.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Sky on November 24, 2006, 08:45:14 AM
Useless trivia: at our rehearsals, I'd play Hangar 18 on drums. The fills were rough, but I was pretty good otherwise. Good times.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: CmdrSlack on November 25, 2006, 08:45:41 AM
Does anyone else end up with GH claw the day after playing?  Seriously.  I think I'm going to have to start taking a vicodin just to play the game, it's thrashing my left hand something awful.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Nija on November 25, 2006, 09:15:14 AM
Does anyone else end up with GH claw the day after playing?  Seriously.  I think I'm going to have to start taking a vicodin just to play the game, it's thrashing my left hand something awful.

Try sitting/holding the guitar a bit different. Most people I play with experience THE CLAW, but I can rock for hours and hours claw-free. I played coop last night from 10 until 2am, no breaks.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 25, 2006, 03:48:04 PM
I never got the claw, but sonofabitch, I think I wrecked my pinky forever.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Nija on November 25, 2006, 05:24:40 PM
I'm up to rock this town rockin' my ass schild. I can't pull off those double notes in any song, my hand just doesn't work right. the index finger/ring finger then quickly to middle/pinky. That shit just murders me.

I think i'll have to perfect a slide method but it'll turn my brain into mush as I try to remember which buttons my fingers are on at any particular time.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: schild on November 25, 2006, 06:37:05 PM
We've decimated everything in the game cept Freebird. We started on expert and were up to Freebird within 72 hours of release. We haven't really tried much since. Sometimes, when we're smashed, we'll play Coop.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: Trippy on November 25, 2006, 06:40:43 PM
I think i'll have to perfect a slide method but it'll turn my brain into mush as I try to remember which buttons my fingers are on at any particular time.
That's what that raised bar on the yellow button is for.


Title: Re: The Guitar Hero II (kinda sucks) Thread
Post by: MrHat on November 25, 2006, 09:20:28 PM
I just love how they shout for encores.

Whenever my wife plays now, I'll shout "Freebird!" from the other room.