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(I can't bring myself to file this under useless news...)

(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060817/capt.bk10708170749.thailand_jonbenet_ramsey_bk107.jpg)

I'm sure you've all heard by now that there's been an arrest (http://javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/law/2006/08/17/sots.john.mark.karr.speaks.aptn','2006/08/24');) in the Jonbenet Ramsey case.  Looks like they got the right guy... what a freaking nutjob.  I have a feeling this trial is going to be a total circus, and he's just going to look guiltier and freakier every passing day.  If convicted, he deserves the harshest punishment allowed by law.  Sick, sick, sick.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/17/D8JI2I3G0.html

edit:  Also, anyone else getting a weird TFWSNBN vibe from this guy?  I'm just sayin'.

Same guy pictured with a little girl? click here (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:valvAN6eFf8J:www.gnbenglish.com/board/view.php%3Fcd%3D111939074567294100%26tcd%3Dphoto01%26sf%3D%26sv%3D%26st%3D%26div%3D%26flag%3D%26page_cnt%3D5+%22john+karr%22+teacher+english&hl=en&gl=au&ct=clnk&cd=3&client=firefox-a)

I dug that up from Google's cache for work (TV news) and nobody wanted to risk using it without verifying it.

[edit] Also, there was a MySpace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=15994899) for a long-haired, skinny young John Mark Karr II (http://myspace-277.vo.llnwd.net/01043/77/29/1043589277_s.jpg), but it was taken down in the last 12 hours.


BTW what's with the Harry Highpants look in the arrest photo?

He has a very skinny neck.  Even I could probably snap it.  Too bad the little girl's mother didn't live to try for herself.  All very sad, isn't it?

ORLY?

Why 118,000 ?

I don't get that part.

He looks like Forrest Gump.

If the Ex-wife testifies it could cause problems for the prosecution. I am wondering if he isn't one of those nutjobs that confesses to something to get attention and media exposure.

Unless she has outside cooraboration, a wife's testimony on where you were is pretty suspect.

Maybe he's such a nutjob that he only thinks it happened.  Who knows?  I wouldn't dream of blaming the parents of the victim but I have to wonder if dressing up your five year old as a sexy Vegas showgirl makes sick people sicker.  Even when I was very gothy, I didn't wear as much make-up as a five year old child beauty pageant contestant.  I can't even imagine dressing up a small child that provocatively during Halloween.  Not that any jury should ever consider that as an excuse... it's just a personal observation of something I consider to be dodgy parenting.

Then again, we're talking about a woman who once made the decision to marry (and presumably participate in coitus with) the man person pictured above.  I'm going to take anything she says with a good helping of salt.

But I also don't think it's completely impossible that this guy is just making all of this up to play out some bizarre fantasy he has.

edit: I misread you guys' two posts.  So this one probably makes zero sense.  i'll leave it to show off my lack of reading comprehension.

Sketch done by a psychic in 1998.

(http://www.drudgereport.com/psychic.jpg)

Wow, that's... obviously it's completely insubmissable... but that's kind of creepy.

tell me there isn't a resemblance:

(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060817/capt.bk11608170844.thailand_jonbenet_ramsey_bk116.jpg)(http://www.drudgereport.com/psychic.jpg)

They both appear to be white males.

They also both have two eyes!

Depends on what other evidence there is…

…not uncommon for nuts confess to crimes they didn't commit… …especially in a celebrated case such as this one…

I thought they said he knew things which hadn't been released.  Plus they were tailing him for weeks.  I don't think he confessed and turned himself in, I think they arrested him and then he confessed.

I'm guessing they took away his belt so that he can't kill himself and had to hike up his pants.  And I think the psychic sketch thing is kind of creepy, if it's real.

Edit: I think I've changed my mind already and am leaning more towards the false confession.  One of the officers on the case warned about people that make up stuff like this.  The ex-wife also says he had been studying the Ramsey and another similar case for years.  And finally this is the result of what the guy said in emails to someone who made a documentary.  As soon as the internet touches something it's credibility is reduced by nine tenths.

I'm starting to lean towards the "whack job who falses confesses" thing.  He seems like he wants to confess, but then he starts dodging questions when they get too detailed.  Plus a plethora of other little things I've read about this guy today, sounds like he might be full of phychopathic bullshit.

The DNA test next week will pretty much make it or break it.

edit:  Either way he's a fucking freak who will be in one institution or another after this is all over.

Yeah, a confession of a mentally disturbed individual doesn't mean much, and so I'm waiting for the DNA test as well before believing they've really got the right guy. 

His story doesn't hold together very well, wavering from loving her, kidnapping her for a ransom, and strangling her when the kidnapping wasn't working out as he planned, and then her body ended up in the parents basement how?

Not that I'm recommending this kiddy porn lover walk the streets after this is over.

Pretty sure it goes beyond just watching it... I doubt he moved to Bangkok for the food.

I never doubted, but figured he was in Thailand to escape arrest.  That he might have been there for looser age restrictions certainly adds another motive.

(Out of fairness for International cultures, a little Wikipedia research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand) shows that about 33% of Thailand prostitutes are thought to be under 18, although most of them more than 15 which is the legal age of consent (but not for sex work, where it's 18).  Apparently all prostitution is illegal in Thailand, but it's weakly enforced.  Perhaps the creepiest thing I've discovered is that there were members of the online nerd community who felt this information was an important wikipedia addition.)

MMMMM Thai food.

What doesn't make any sense is how he admitted to kidnapping her and sexually assaulting her and yet he claims she died "accidentally"...

It doesn't strike me as that difficult for a grown man to accidentally break the six year old kid he's molesting.  Although I see your point that the murder would be premeditated because it's mentioned in the ransom note he'd kill her if he didn't get what he'd want and apparently twine was used to strangle her.  If it was "accidental", it'd be more along the lines of, "Golly, I reckoned she could take a little more strangling than that."

However, I'd be surprised if the DNA test really proves this guy is the culprit.  It's much easier to believe her somewhat screwy parents did the deed and have been pulling an OJ Simpson on the justice system since.

Looks like a partial pedosmile (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spot_the_pedo) to me, turned to a been-arrested-frown.

I think we've all wanted to beleieve that her parents did it all along and would eventually get convicted on it. Mainly, because they won't ever get convicted on anything for being fucked up, vicarious living, beauty pagent parents.

Jeez, that site has major avatard potential.

Just make sure to rehost it. Maddox will come looking for you bandwidth stealers, and I would hate to have one of my internet heroes banned from F13 for coming after ya  :-D

I dunno, it might be fun to see Maddox come here and rip on someone.


Maddox vs Haemish. Now that would be a fight I might pay to see (or read, whatever).

Plus the fact he said he drugged her and no drugs were found in the autopsy.

Nutjob, most likely not the actual killer.

Whos Maddox?

And does he have heavy hitters?

The news just said that the father received a $118,000 bonus from his work that Christmas so the killer had know that about him.  Apparently this guy never met him though.

I clicked on that with apprehension, but it had some funny lines:


[edit] Also, I searched youtube for Dennis Ferguson, because there is some spectacular video of him attacking camera crews and protesting the legitimacy of paedophilia. But what came up instead was this bizarre thing: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tur9KtnXNb0

I never would have suspected Wil Wheaton.

Great Scot!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14400501/

Confirmed, it is him.

Son of GMan?

John Karr
(http://f13.net/media/images/john_karr.jpg)


GMan
(http://f13.net/media/images/gman.jpg)

And when he puts on glasses and grows a beard.

(http://xtrememusic.onesite.com/images/thumb/gordan_freeman.jpg)

Why, Gordan, why?!

No, the real scary thing about this guy is that he's a total averageman in appearance.

There isn't a resemblance.  At least not one of any signifigance.  Look at the chins.

I don't know...  If I were stuck in some Thai jail shithole I'd probably confess to sodomizing and dismembering Mother Theresa just to get my ass extradited as quickly as possible.  I'm waiting for the DNA results.

No big shock here... looks like the guy was in the middle of pulling a Linda Wochowski (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209480,00.html).

The way she was dressed she was begging for it.

DNA didn't match. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060828/ts_nm/crime_jonbenet_dc_2)  He's just a nut.  Oh well, at least he can be charged on those warrants he has for child pornography.

In other news, water is still wet.

Why did they have to fly this douchebag back from Thailand? They could have paid off a Thai jail guard to jab him with a syringe to get a DNA sample and ship it here. Did anyone really think he did it?

I wondered that myself.  He isn't someone we really want running lose though, here or in another country.

He was already being kicked out the country for some sort of passport violation. He wasn't extradited to the US, he flew back voluntarily.

And we know absolutely everything about that flight! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KADCGX7jj_M)

Holy shit.

G-man = Gordon Freeman?  I never noticed that before.

Is it just me, or do the rest of you think this guy should be locked up for the rest of his life anyway, just for making such disgusting claims?

He should be put in in a state psychiatric hospital, at the very least.

Gordon Freeman.
That's been my pet theory all through HL/HL2, mind you.

/raises hand emphatically.

He should certainly do time for it, but the rest of his life? Let's actually find him guilty of a crime first. Child pr0n is a good place to start.

Surely, just talking about stuff like this a crime:

Sick, sad and demented, but talking about it is not a crime.