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Title: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Comstar on July 06, 2006, 03:15:25 AM It's about time, It's not LOTR, but it's going to have dungeons and dragons! Wounder who pays Tanis or the other characters. And what annoying twerp plays the Kender.
Granted it's NOT live action. CGI though? Apologies if this is old news, I only saw it linked of todays Full Frontal Nerdity. From here (http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=21543) and followup here (http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=21507) Quote Margaret Weis author of the Dragonlance novels, has posted confirmation on the Dragonlance forums that the animated movie is indeed in the works: Dear Friends, "I really wanted to wait until we could make the WAHOO Big Announcement on the dragonlance movie site (which is coming any day now, so keep watch!). But since Lucy Lawless gave us away, I'll let you know what's going on. Paramount Studios is making Dragons of Autumn Twilight as a full-length, adult, animated movie. I'll let the movie site provide you with details on the director, screen play writer, animation house, and all that. Suffice it to say, Tracy and I have been working with the production team for over a year now. They've been wonderful to work with! They've allowed us to have script approval and asked for our suggestions. They've shown us all the art work and allowed us approval on that (as well as the WoTC art director in charge of Dragonlance). We've been working with the Whitestone Council people on this as well. (Thanks, guys!) From what I've seen, it's going to be amazing! The art is great. Hopefully some of it will be up on the movie site. And Tracy and I will be talking more about the movie and maybe bringing along some art pieces on our book tour. Tracy and I are both very excited about this!" Margare Damon White Reports: Lucy Lawless has announced that she will be one of the voice talents in a new Paramount Dragonlance animated feature. The movie is based on the Dragonlance novels published by Wizards of the Coast. Lucy will voice the character Goldmoon that will sound like Xena according to her message on her site. From the Lawless Ink: "I just did the voice of an animated cartoon for Paramount, called Dragonlance. Obviously it's a fantasy story, with gods and monsters -- (no lesbian subtext). I never felt I nailed animated performance before, so wanted to get a handle on it. I played a character called "Goldmoon," a Native American. We played around with accents awhile. I didn't know she was Native A till I got there and so didn't have time to research the accent (not many of those where I come from). More staccato! More commanding! More warm! Less disjointed! . . . Ummm, do you just want me to do Xena? Ahh, yes! That's it, do Xena! The voice is perfect! So warm, so commanding, so . . . yeah, yeah, let's get on with it. It was actually really fun. At last I have done something my friends can actually watch. My son is gratified that I am not playing a bad guy. He can't stand me going to BSG every day to be mean to humans. Oh well, it's a living! L Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: stray on July 06, 2006, 03:31:02 AM Dragonlance sucks :-)
If there was anything that turned me off to fantasy books, it's that. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Signe on July 06, 2006, 03:35:22 AM I never read any of them. The thing that put me off fantasy books were the front covers.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 06, 2006, 03:54:01 AM Dragonlance didn't suck. Problem is, I can't imagine how it'll translate. I always felt it would make a great MMOG setting though. There's enough heroes and gods and famous monsters and shit that it would be a carnival of cameos. And hell, there's what, 100 books in the same setting and nearly in roughly the same era that could be worked in. Meh. Eberron. It still disgusts me.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 06, 2006, 03:56:28 AM Ok, I'll be the first wanker to ask :
Who's doing Raistlin ? Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Merusk on July 06, 2006, 03:57:03 AM When they say Dragonlance, I expect they only mean the first 3 novels not the 100 other books for the folks who got into it. I thought it was as good as any other D&D novel, which isn't saying much in the grand scope of things.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 06, 2006, 04:00:24 AM Dragonlance is one of those things you enjoy when you're young and then re-read when you're old, only to realise that it's almost complete and total crap.
Further, the fact that it was based on a real D&D session grates on the nerves. You know that if you were the DM, you'd have just summoned a Tarrasque on the whole fucking lot of them. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 06, 2006, 04:10:57 AM I liked the Dragons of Summer Flame closing to the series. But then they resurrected it all and got me real pissed off. I want the movie to END with Chaos stomping on Tasslehoff and then Chaos lifting his foot and seeing the chicken feathers.
That would be the ultimate cliffhanger. Then they never make the sequel. EVER. FUCKING DON'T DO IT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE FLINT AFTER THE CREDITS HANGING OUT BY A TREE EITHER. AND I SURE AS SHIT DON'T WANT TO SEE TASSLEHOFF WALK UP TO FLINT. This won't end well. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 06, 2006, 04:17:58 AM I would prefer my own re-write, where Tasslehoff is dragged in front of the town council and has his right hand placed on a wooden block and a lead hammer brought down on his fingers again and again and again until it was pretty much a useless blob of living tissue.
At that point, they'd put out his eyes and send him to the tanty. Don't even ask what I'd want to happen to Raistlin and Goldmoon. Hell, the only character that was worth a damn in the books was Sturm and that's because he... Do we have to spoiler these things ? Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 06, 2006, 04:22:31 AM Fuck no (in response to needing spoilers). Especially since I just ruined the entire series in one post.
And fuck Sturm. Goldmoon never bothered me. Neither did Palin. Actually, the guy I hated most in the series was Riverwind. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Trippy on July 06, 2006, 04:25:01 AM I'm surprised WotC went with Dragonlance. They've been letting that campaign setting languish for years now in favor of more home grown ones like Forgotten Realms, presumably because they still have to cough up royalties to Weis and Hickman. I tried reading the original trilogy but never managed to get very far. If I was like 10 years younger at that time I would've ate them up. Still I have fond memories of the Gold Box series so I wish them the best of luck.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 06, 2006, 04:31:32 AM In that case, Sturm was the only character worth a damn because he got speared through the chest and died.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Murgos on July 06, 2006, 04:38:41 AM Wait! What? Goldmoon was a Native American?
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Merusk on July 06, 2006, 04:39:19 AM I don't even remember Riverwind as a character, but most of the book was that throwaway to me. Tanis, however, needs a boot up his ass. Preferably the one that stomped Tasselhoff. Raistlin bothers me only because he's been as imitated as Drizzt over the years. His brother, for being as big and tough as he was sure was a whiny tit, too.
Come to think of it.. the whole party was like a bunch of Emo kids in D&D land. I wonder if they cut themselves just to so they could feel something. Knowing that it was based on an actual D&D group just makes me sad. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 06, 2006, 04:40:35 AM Based on Native Americans, yes.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Murgos on July 06, 2006, 04:42:57 AM I must have completely blocked that bit of non-sense out of my mind.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 06, 2006, 04:52:05 AM How do you miss that? Look at the pictures of her (this is from a book cover):
(http://www.immaginario.net/biblio/cartoline/immagini/dragonlance10.jpg) (this is from the official ruleset game thing box): (http://ardemor.rpg-x.com/images/goldmoon.jpg) Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 06, 2006, 04:53:56 AM I must have completely blocked that bit of non-sense out of my mind. Be fair, Schild. That's a pretty believable explanation right there. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 06, 2006, 04:55:27 AM I must have completely blocked that bit of non-sense out of my mind. Be fair, Schild. That's a pretty believable explanation right there. Oh comeon. Look at her. She's riding a fucking pegasus. How can you not remember an indian riding a pegasus? :P Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: stray on July 06, 2006, 05:14:11 AM So these characters were based off of Native Americans, or the entire Dragonlance setting?
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 06, 2006, 05:15:06 AM Just the two characters who came from like the only Indian compound in the realm, which was moderately butchered to make way for the Dark Queen's Vagina Comb.
Or something. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 06, 2006, 05:30:08 AM Actually, you know what else bothers me ?
Riverwind and Fucking Goldmoon. She acts like some uppity bitch because she's got a fanny and she tromps around like the fucking owns the place, putting this poor fucking scumbag into total penile arrest because he wants to put it in her so bad. But no, she's the bitch daughter of a fucking chieftain and Riverwind can just spill his fucking jizz into the river nightly rather than come near her sainted snatch, the horrible wee peasant. And then, when that's not bad enough, she sends him off to 'prove' his fucking devotions and the silly fuck runs straight to the nearest FUCKING DRAGONS DEN TO STEAL THE AFOREMENTIONED VAGINA COMB. Not thinking for one second that this rancid little bitch is not worth it for one second, seeing only Elmore's perfectly drawn pussy fur in his addled little lackwit mind. He fucking traipses off and steals the one fucking thing the DARK GODDESS will come around looking for the next time she gets her twat addled and needs to tamp it down a bit. And then, if that's not bad enough, what does he do ? He leads a fucking trail (like a proper Indian would) right back to his fucking village like he hasn't fucking seen Star Wars with Dead Beru all over the shop and next thing you know DARK AND EVIL TERROR is fucking melting his whole village. And this little purse snatch of a daughter is fawning all over him like he's big man dick, having actually fucking thrown herself in front of arrows FIRED BY HER DADS MEN at this little prick. So sure, they're saved by the hand of God and teleport right the fuck out of there just as Vice-Admiral Facemelter the dragon wanders over the fucking horizon to melt the entire Indian reservation so badly they can't even build a fucking casino. Totally nonplussed by all of this, the bitch still spends the whole of the first book wandering around like she's fucking queen muck, still refusing to let good ole hardwood into her vag, despite the fact that her fucking stupidity got her whole fucking Social Circle melted into fucking Horta. NO KILL I indeed. AND HE TAKES IT. HE DOESN'T SLAP THE COW INTO THE GROUND AND STOMP ON HER FACE A COUPLE OF TIMES TILL SHE'S UNRECOGNISABLE AND UNWANTED BY MAN. EVEN FUCKING JULIET HAD THE FUCKING DECENCY TO TAKE POISON AFTER ACTING LIKE SUCH A FUCKING ICE BITCH. AND THEN SHE FORMS HER OWN RELIGION BECOMING A NUN. Ahem. I didn't like Riverwind and Goldmoon much. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: stray on July 06, 2006, 05:33:00 AM I was just going to say that it read like Goosebumps (if, umm....I had actually read Goosebumps). Signe was right on about fantasy covers too (long live Frazetta though).
But that'll work, Ironwood. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 06, 2006, 05:35:22 AM Oh, they didn't read like Goosebumps at all. People knock Dragonlance all the time, while when most of us were reading it other people were reading that Redwall bullshit. Future furries of the world unite indeed.
Fucking Redwall. Fucking Brian Jacques. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Strazos on July 06, 2006, 05:37:36 AM I never got into Dragonlance....I'll admit a heavy preference to FR and Drizzt.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Sky on July 06, 2006, 06:26:34 AM I liked Greyhawk as a setting. I haven't really enjoyed any of the settings since. Raistlin? Drizzt? Iuz, bitches! Scarlet Brotherhood, some Lawful Evil ass-kicking monks!
Goddamned kids. I've never read a official D&D-based book that I enjoyed, they were all poorly-written with shabby characters. I was reading Glen Cook and Joel Rosenberg (who based his stuff loosely on D&D, since the series started with the gaming group being transported to the game world). Fuck Drizzt, a dwarf with the mind of a wheelchair-bound cripple? That's cool, and there was some decent character development, at least in the first book. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: bhodi on July 06, 2006, 07:05:52 AM The Joel Rosenburg (guardians of the flame) novels were fun, I liked them. I also liked the first few dragonlance books as a kid, re-reading them they were just okay. Somethingawful did a pretty funny bit with one of them a week or two ago.
I did like soulfire, that raistlin book. He's probably my favorite character of the lot, and entertaining, in a blatant power mad one-dimentional sort of way. Some of the tales short stories were decent, and don't forget probably the best book of the lot, the legend of huma. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: RhyssaFireheart on July 06, 2006, 08:05:39 AM Beauty in textual form. *sniff* That was just sheer poetry. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: WayAbvPar on July 06, 2006, 09:58:31 AM I never got into Dragonlance....I'll admit a heavy preference to FR and Drizzt. Dear sweet baby Flying Spaghetti Monster. You must be joking. Not that Dragonlance was literature by any stretch, but the whole Drizz't thing was nothing but a frustrated gamer writing about his favorite character and furiously masturbating with each completely ridiculous power or item he gave to him. Between RA Salvatore and Rose Estes, I can't bring myself to read ANY D&D books any more. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Rasix on July 06, 2006, 10:28:02 AM I also liked the first few dragonlance books as a kid, re-reading them they were just okay. Heh, I also re-read them just a year or two ago after reading them all in my early teen years. They seem to be written for that target audience. Re-reading them was simple, but enjoyable. Kind of like a Harry Potter book, but Harry Potter books are better written. The War of Souls trilogy was pretty decent but written, again, at not a very high level. Some of the main protagonists were somewhat annoying (ie Tas and some emo elf prince). Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: bhodi on July 06, 2006, 10:48:51 AM I don't understand the hatred for powerful protaganists in book form.
As long as they start fairly humble, I don't have a problem with a main character getting whatever sort of power they want. Hell, as long as they work for it, there is no such thing as game balance in a novel. Fuck, give them the power to move entire continents with the wave of their hand, or kill that dragon and inherit a horde the likes of which monty hall has never seen, or become partially infused with infinity. Whatever. I don't care, as long as the story's interesting. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Polysorbate80 on July 06, 2006, 11:21:29 AM Just don't end with a horribly incomprehensible failed deus-ex-machina like the "Gord the Rogue" series *shudder*
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Strazos on July 06, 2006, 11:26:40 AM I never got into Dragonlance....I'll admit a heavy preference to FR and Drizzt. Dear sweet baby Flying Spaghetti Monster. You must be joking. Not that Dragonlance was literature by any stretch, but the whole Drizz't thing was nothing but a frustrated gamer writing about his favorite character and furiously masturbating with each completely ridiculous power or item he gave to him. Between RA Salvatore and Rose Estes, I can't bring myself to read ANY D&D books any more. Well, keep in mind that I've only the origin series. I wasn't into that genre as a kid, and I would have hardly had the time to read all those books during college. Heck, the onyl reason I am reading those books at is because I have about 32 hours a week to burn with nothing good to do - at least I am getting paid for it. Heck, the only reason I am reading Salvatore at all is because I've always like the FR setting, due to my heavy penchant for the Infinity Engine games. :-D They're long, not horribly written, and enjoyable for what they are, at least to me. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: shiznitz on July 06, 2006, 01:06:49 PM The best FR series is the one about the group of Menzoberranzen drow, each book by a different author. I also recently finished The Last Mythal trilogy and enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Strazos on July 06, 2006, 01:11:15 PM I just started The Cleric's Quintet, which seems good so far (I'm not far into it at all).
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: WayAbvPar on July 06, 2006, 01:25:33 PM Never was a FR fan- I guess I am too old. Greyhawk all the way!
I will totally see this DR movie, btw. I am old, but I am still a nerd. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Johny Cee on July 06, 2006, 06:35:26 PM I've never read a official D&D-based book that I enjoyed, they were all poorly-written with shabby characters. I was reading Glen Cook and Joel Rosenberg (who based his stuff loosely on D&D, since the series started with the gaming group being transported to the game world). Fuck Drizzt, a dwarf with the mind of a wheelchair-bound cripple? That's cool, and there was some decent character development, at least in the first book. Once you read a few Cook novels, it really kills any enjoyment you could have from light and fluffy fantasy like the TSR/Wizards stuff. Doubly so if you've read Wolfe or Zelazny. The original Drizz't trilogy (Icewind Dale) is decent, if only because it doesn't focus on Drizz't that much. The first is really a Wulfgar novel, second a Bruenor, third works in everyone. After that, it was mostly Salvatore reusing bits and pieces from the first three books to make money hats. Gemmell does a much better job of mass-producing fun sword & sorcery type books. As everyone else has said, the original Dragonlance novels aren't bad, but are perfect teen reading. Too much angst and melodrama. Lot of the characters are one note. When you revisit the books later on in life, they come off as kind of hollow and a little grating. Too simplified and heavy-handed in making it's points. I also remember enjoying the Finder Wyvernspur books in my teens.... if just because he was the most morally ambiguous character TSR churned out. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Raging Turtle on July 06, 2006, 09:44:51 PM Screw you haters. I read the first three Dragonlance at 13 or 15 or so, when you're supposed to, and I thought it was great. It's written for teens and you're all whining about angst! Get over your cynical butts already. :-P
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Rasix on July 06, 2006, 10:21:29 PM Screw you haters. I read the first three Dragonlance at 13 or 15 or so, when you're supposed to, and I thought it was great. It's written for teens and you're all whining about angst! Get over your cynical butts already. :-P Umm.. did you read the entire thread? Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Raging Turtle on July 06, 2006, 10:45:19 PM Screw you haters. I read the first three Dragonlance at 13 or 15 or so, when you're supposed to, and I thought it was great. It's written for teens and you're all whining about angst! Get over your cynical butts already. :-P Umm.. did you read the entire thread? Who does that? Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Azazel on July 06, 2006, 11:29:04 PM I never read any of them. The thing that put me off fantasy books were the front covers. I agree. Oddly enough, the exact same covers, sans dragons, work wonders as porn movie covers. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Abagadro on July 06, 2006, 11:30:44 PM I really liked the Legends Trilogy back in the day when I read them.
Tracy Hickman lives around these parts (or at least did) and I've talked to him several times over the decades. Real nice fellow. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: stray on July 07, 2006, 01:36:54 AM Screw you haters. I read the first three Dragonlance at 13 or 15 or so, when you're supposed to, and I thought it was great. It's written for teens and you're all whining about angst! Get over your cynical butts already. :-P When I was 13, I was big into True Crime books. No time for elves baby. Before that though, I had shitloads of "Choose Your Own Adventure" books. Shitloads. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Azazel on July 07, 2006, 05:40:11 AM Oh comeon. Look at her. She's riding a fucking pegasus. How can you not remember an indian riding a pegasus? :P You mean that blonde haired, blue eyed, norse-looking chick who happens to have a bunch of feathers decorating her outfit and staff? She looks less Native American than I do. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Azazel on July 07, 2006, 06:08:51 AM And doesn't Drizzst strike you as more of a fifth-tier Elric, anyway?
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Murgos on July 08, 2006, 06:32:20 AM Oh comeon. Look at her. She's riding a fucking pegasus. How can you not remember an indian riding a pegasus? :P Good fortune? I remember the names but the whole native american thing is gone. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: sarius on July 08, 2006, 10:57:12 AM Dragonlance is one of those things you enjoy when you're young and then re-read when you're old, only to realise that it's almost complete and total crap. Further, the fact that it was based on a real D&D session grates on the nerves. You know that if you were the DM, you'd have just summoned a Tarrasque on the whole fucking lot of them. Word. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Morat20 on July 08, 2006, 03:01:39 PM I just started The Cleric's Quintet, which seems good so far (I'm not far into it at all). I enjoyed it, for reasons I won't elaborate on since they're spoiler-ish. However, while I felt the basic idea was interesting, I'd have preferred someone ELSE to have taken that idea, lovingly nutured it, and spewed it into book form.Having said that, Cadderly is a bit more three-dimensional than most Salvatore characters and the Bouldershoulder brothers are fun enough, for idiots. As for Dragonlance -- It'd have been better if, while reading it, I couldn't tell when each character leveled. "Oh uh, looks like Raistalin's second level now. He's got charm person!" I admit to modifying the character of Fizban for at least two campaigns, because I think nothing fucks over your players more than saddling them with a wizard in the advanced stages of senility. Except retarded genies. I brought in a particularly quick-witted friend for that, though. All wishes were misunderstood and catastrophic, all with an air of genuine helpfullness. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: WayAbvPar on July 10, 2006, 11:23:00 AM Quote As for Dragonlance -- It'd have been better if, while reading it, I couldn't tell when each character leveled. "Oh uh, looks like Raistalin's second level now. He's got charm person!" As a total D&D nerd when I first read them (and now, I guess....heh), I thought that was actually pretty cool! Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Morat20 on July 10, 2006, 11:38:30 AM Quote As for Dragonlance -- It'd have been better if, while reading it, I couldn't tell when each character leveled. "Oh uh, looks like Raistalin's second level now. He's got charm person!" As a total D&D nerd when I first read them (and now, I guess....heh), I thought that was actually pretty cool! Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 10, 2006, 12:06:29 PM zomg, Fizban is totally teaching him Fireball which is a third level spell. Raistlin must have hit level 7. Lolz.
And whatnot. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Strazos on July 10, 2006, 12:10:13 PM lolz, That's seriously how that series was written?
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: El Gallo on July 10, 2006, 12:44:44 PM lolz, That's seriously how that series was written? You could almost hear the dice rolling in the background. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 10, 2006, 01:20:56 PM Lucy Lawless is hot tho.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: tazelbain on July 10, 2006, 01:59:07 PM I'd like to see her do more evil roles, she's great as Number Three on Galatica.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Llava on July 10, 2006, 02:02:02 PM lolz, That's seriously how that series was written? You could almost hear the dice rolling in the background. Because it's vaguely appropriate. (http://www.gotfuturama.com/Multimedia/EpisodeSounds/2ACV16/16.mp3) Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Margalis on July 10, 2006, 06:33:58 PM The orignal series is fucking horrendous if you go back and re-read it. The writing is just atrocious. It could have been written by middle school students.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Yegolev on July 10, 2006, 10:40:18 PM Less dice, more Lawless.
Apparently... she is an advocate of breast feeding. Hooray Google! Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Samwise on July 10, 2006, 10:56:55 PM The orignal series is fucking horrendous if you go back and re-read it. The writing is just atrocious. It could have been written by middle school students. I agree, the characters in the Chronicles series were pretty one-dimensional for the most part. Most of them (the ones that survived) got a lot more interesting in the Legends series. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Jain Zar on July 11, 2006, 12:06:30 AM I really liked the Dragonlance Weis & Hickman books as a teen, and I have picked up their installments only over the years.
(Basically Chronicles, Legends, Next Generation, Summer Flame, and War of Souls. 11 books out of a metric shitload.) Yes they are light and fluffy blah blah. I will be looking forward to the movie, and have a friend who will probably start dancing around in glee at the mere thought of it. Shit, I made his day telling him they made a nice comics adaptation of the first book. (Which is just out in trades form.) I credit Salvatore's Crystal Shard book for getting me into reading novels so his first 6 books have a soft spot for me as well. (Icewind Dale Trilogy, and the Dark Elf prequels. Legacy and later are pretty dumb though.) Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 11, 2006, 02:03:18 AM Salvatore needs to be hung up by his own intestines.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: sarius on July 11, 2006, 08:03:42 AM Salvatore needs to be hung up by his own intestines. My, we're just full of glee lately! Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 11, 2006, 08:04:21 AM What can I say ? I'm a people person.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: WayAbvPar on July 11, 2006, 09:08:22 AM Salvatore needs to be hung up by his own intestines. I may get a sex change just so I can offer to bear your children. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 11, 2006, 09:29:14 AM I am having enough trouble with one pregnant lady about the house.
Tho I appreciate the offer. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Lantyssa on July 11, 2006, 09:54:41 AM That is a sneaky way to get him in the sack until you tire of him. Hopefully you don't actually want any little Ironwoods running about or you'll be a little disappointed.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Llava on July 11, 2006, 10:20:45 AM That is a sneaky way to get him in the sack until you tire of him. Hopefully you don't actually want any little Ironwoods running about or you'll be a little disappointed. Somebody clearly never saw Junior (http://imdb.com/title/tt0110216/). Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Lantyssa on July 11, 2006, 11:47:42 AM I don't think I saw it now that you bring it up. I guess I am woefully behind on modern medical advances.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: WayAbvPar on July 11, 2006, 02:12:43 PM I don't think I saw it now that you bring it up. I guess I am woefully behind on modern medical advances. I never saw it either, but I am just woefully behind on terrible fucking movies. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Llava on July 11, 2006, 02:22:28 PM I don't think I saw it now that you bring it up. I guess I am woefully behind on modern medical advances. I never saw it either, but I am just woefully behind on terrible fucking movies. I dare you to prove that Junior was anything but an emotionally moving and scientifically accurate documentary. Dare you. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: WayAbvPar on July 11, 2006, 02:30:38 PM Can't I choose Truth instead?
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 11, 2006, 03:56:59 PM Yeah, this went odd places.
Again. Someone post Lucy's Boobs and bring balance to the Force. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: WayAbvPar on July 11, 2006, 03:58:41 PM Or we can go back to mocking Salvatore again. That seriously never gets old. At least for me :-D
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Samwise on July 11, 2006, 04:20:29 PM Easy choice.
(http://www.sgn.org/sgnnews20/pictures/Lucy%20Lawless%20(WinCE).jpg) Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Signe on July 11, 2006, 09:21:38 PM (http://www.warriorprincess.com/Lucy/newsarticles/newsimages/sunstartimes_012702.jpg)
This is when she was "glowing." Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Samwise on July 11, 2006, 10:00:13 PM You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Lt.Dan on July 11, 2006, 10:54:03 PM Oh great, a Dragonlance movie is surely going to spawn a whole new line of MMO wannabees.
[Taaslehoff]: Rouge LFG [DavidTasslehoff]: Rouge with 3s stun lfg [Tasslehoof]: lfg to farm Stockades Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 11, 2006, 11:31:28 PM I only wish there were a decent Dragonlance MMOG.
Don't ruin that tiny spark of a childhood dream. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Trippy on July 11, 2006, 11:43:47 PM I only wish there were a decent Dragonlance MMOG. Arctic was a lot of fun, though that was/is a text MUD -- I was very sad when it closed the first time around. A lot of people wandered over to Sojourn for their D&D MUD fix but it seriously sucked in comparison, at least initially.Don't ruin that tiny spark of a childhood dream. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Margalis on July 12, 2006, 12:25:59 AM What about that game with the "Sun" in the title. I remember that was online and D&D, was that dragonlance or something else.
I want to say Golden Sun but I know that isn't it. Dark Sun? I'm not a huge D&D nerd so I never really got what Dragonlance even is? Is it just some setting that uses the D&D rules? (And presumably has dragons and/or lances in it?) Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Trippy on July 12, 2006, 12:45:58 AM What about that game with the "Sun" in the title. I remember that was online and D&D, was that dragonlance or something else. Yes Dark Sun Online on TEN.I want to say Golden Sun but I know that isn't it. Dark Sun? Quote I'm not a huge D&D nerd so I never really got what Dragonlance even is? Is it just some setting that uses the D&D rules? (And presumably has dragons and/or lances in it?) Yup that's pretty much it.Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 12, 2006, 01:20:55 AM Easy choice. (http://www.sgn.org/sgnnews20/pictures/Lucy%20Lawless%20(WinCE).jpg) I'm tempted to ask 'who's the unattractive skinny bitch with the fake titties?' but the picture is telling me that's Ms Lawless. Surely not. I've NEVER seen her that ugly. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: stray on July 12, 2006, 01:54:51 AM Looks good to me...
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Llava on July 12, 2006, 03:50:40 AM I'm not a huge D&D nerd so I never really got what Dragonlance even is? Is it just some setting that uses the D&D rules? (And presumably has dragons and/or lances in it?) Dungeons and Dragons takes place in numerous "worlds" with differing moods and themes to them. Dragonlance, Greyhawk, Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Dark Sun (I believe), Planescape (sorta), and Eberron are all examples of this. Each has some unique twist, or is supposed to. Eberron and their technology, Forgotten Realms and all the gods and elves they have (seriously, they have like 50 kinds of elves, even I think that's excessive), Dark Sun and its focus on psionics and desert landscape... I'm going to say etc here because I don't know the others except Ravenloft which is basically gothic D&D. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 12, 2006, 04:02:22 AM Looks good to me... Not to me. I've just goggled Ms Lawless and trawled through the first ten pages of a google image search. 1 - I can't find that picture yet and don't really want to. She just looks awful there. It looks totally photoshopped. 2 - The woman is goddamn hawt. Really hawt. God, there wasn't a single bad picture amongst them. HAWT. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Merusk on July 12, 2006, 05:21:49 AM That picture is from a Maxim magazine spread a few years ago. I seem to recall at the time Maxim was given a hard time for using 'distorting' lenses on fuller-figured women because they like featuring 'skinny bitches with fake titties.' I agree with your assessment of the Pic, Ironwood.
Dungeons and Dragons takes place in numerous "worlds" with differing moods and themes to them. Dragonlance, Greyhawk, Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Dark Sun (I believe), Planescape (sorta), and Eberron are all examples of this. Each has some unique twist, or is supposed to. Eberron and their technology, Forgotten Realms and all the gods and elves they have (seriously, they have like 50 kinds of elves, even I think that's excessive), Dark Sun and its focus on psionics and desert landscape... I'm going to say etc here because I don't know the others except Ravenloft which is basically gothic D&D. Greyhawk was generic D&D land. It was the first 'world' and one in which anything in the AD&D ruleset could happen. Planescape was Gods & Demigods and other-planar beings. Pretty much what you saw in the CRPG. Dragonlance is the "romantic" fantasy setting (thus the melodrama, I suppose) and included Dragons & Dragon-mounted "Lances" for aireal jousting.. There were no Gods in Dragonlance, as the gods had withdrawn. There was something about the moons and mages, too. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: El Gallo on July 12, 2006, 07:37:36 AM That picture is from a Maxim magazine spread a few years ago. I seem to recall at the time Maxim was given a hard time for using 'distorting' lenses on fuller-figured women because they like featuring 'skinny bitches with fake titties.' MY ANACONDA DON'T WANT NONE UNLESS YOU GOT BUNS, HON! Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Signe on July 12, 2006, 08:41:46 AM She never looked like that in that extremely silly show she was in. She was big and muscley and a sort of studly looking woman with a somewhat pleasant face. I thought the picture of her pregnant was even better than that piece of dramatic crap picture... at least she looked happy and well fed. I like her face, usually... she's very normal looking.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 12, 2006, 08:46:42 AM Yeah, what the Crazy Lady said.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Merusk on July 12, 2006, 09:38:07 AM That picture is from a Maxim magazine spread a few years ago. I seem to recall at the time Maxim was given a hard time for using 'distorting' lenses on fuller-figured women because they like featuring 'skinny bitches with fake titties.' MY ANACONDA DON'T WANT NONE UNLESS YOU GOT BUNS, HON! So you're saying you enjoy it when your women look like little boys instead of having hips and an ass? Ok, Father Gallo. :-D Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: El Gallo on July 12, 2006, 09:43:07 AM That picture is from a Maxim magazine spread a few years ago. I seem to recall at the time Maxim was given a hard time for using 'distorting' lenses on fuller-figured women because they like featuring 'skinny bitches with fake titties.' MY ANACONDA DON'T WANT NONE UNLESS YOU GOT BUNS, HON! So you're saying you enjoy it when your women look like little boys instead of having hips and an ass? Ok, Father Gallo. :-D I was expressing agreement with Ironwood's position, quoting an eloquent passage from the definitive work on the subject. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: bhodi on July 12, 2006, 09:49:20 AM he likes large posteriors and cannot prevaricate.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Samwise on July 12, 2006, 10:03:32 AM I think I was Googling "Lucy Lawless cleavage". FOR YOU. You bastard. :cry:
(edit) and apparently none of the other pictures of her anywhere are hotlinkable. Boo. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Merusk on July 12, 2006, 10:12:40 AM I was expressing agreement with Ironwood's position, quoting an eloquent passage from the definitive work on the subject. Ahh.. see by quoting me, I took it as mockery and gave an appropriate snarky reply. Ah well, such is the wonder of internet miscommunication. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: El Gallo on July 12, 2006, 12:17:33 PM Yeah, I probably should have quoted Ironwood instead, but I was so excited to go all Mix-a-Lot on everyone I clicked the first quote button I could find.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Trippy on July 16, 2006, 08:40:17 PM Voice cast for movie (http://www.dragonlance-movie.com/news/show_news.asp?id=54).
Quote Casing for the movie has now been completed with Kiefer Sutherland assuming voicing duties for Raistlin Majere. Sutherland is of course best known as Jack Bauer from TV`s "24", however he also has a string of acclaimed movie roles to his credit. Sutherland joins a voice cast which includes Lucy Lawless ("Xena: Warrior Princess") as Goldmoon, Michael Rosenbaum ("Smallville") as Tanis Half-Elven, and Michelle Trachtenberg ("Buffy the Vampire Slayer") as Tika Waylan, for the animated movie adaptation of "Dragons of Autumn Twilight". Other significant roles in the film include: Fred Tatasciore (Flint Fireforge) Rino Romano (Caramon Majere) Jason Marsden (Tasslehoff Burrfoot) Mark Worden (Sturm Brightblade) Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: WindupAtheist on July 16, 2006, 11:12:07 PM Drowschwitz.
EDIT: I just googled "drowschwitz". The only results were me here on F13, and some guy who said it elsewhere in like 2002. I'm crushed. I almost invented a word, but one guy in the world thought of it before me. I must find that guy and kill him. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 12:57:21 AM Hmmm.
Strangely, Sutherland will really, really work for me as Raistlin. I'm thinking the voice that he used in Dark City or possibly Flatliners. Cool. Dragonlance still sucks ass. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Xerapis on July 17, 2006, 02:38:13 AM Yeah, I actually like Sutherland for Raistlin too. Although I always liked Dalamar far more than Raistlin ^^
Not so into the idea of Buffy's little sister voicing Tika, though. Cleric's Quintet was far superior to any of the Drizzt dreck. Oh, and because I am that big of a dork...Lord Soth FTW! That is all. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 05:27:31 AM Don't worry about Buffy's sister. She'll do fine.
I'd worry about the Jamaican bloke from Futurama being Riverwind instead. (http://wow.gamona.de/images/spells_skills/icons_final/ability_rogue_cheapshot.jpg) Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Tebonas on July 17, 2006, 05:36:58 AM Its been many many years since I read Dragonlance, but wasn't Tika Waylan just a barmaid in Dragonlance Chronicles? Regardless of how horrible the voice acting could be, she should appear only twice for the viewer to endure. (Bonus points if she tells somebody to 'Get out' of the inn, I guess).
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Merusk on July 17, 2006, 05:55:22 AM She was the Barmaid-turned-adventurer. She got to go along and be Cameron's source of sexual frustration later, after they removed Goldmoon/ Riverwind from the Angst equation. There was a groping/ heavy-breathing scene somewhere between the two of them where she gets him all worked up then says "oh wait, we can't." (1)
But since they're only doing the first book at this point, I think you're correct. She'll show-up in the bar, shake her bottom and dissapear from the story. 1) See, that's why Kitiara was evil. She WOULD do you six ways from Sunday then wander off without getting all Emo about it. Good girls don't! Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 05:58:34 AM I believe I already covered Kitiara's 'badness' in another thread.
Stupid, stupid, stupid lazy writing. We need a baddy. We need a female baddy. Give her dark hair and a sexual appetite. That'll do. Fucking clownshoes. It was only later on that they actually did any characterisation of her and even then it sucked. She's bad because her Daddy was naughty at her or some such shit. Seriously, don't get me started again. It's bad, bad, bad writing. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 06:00:08 AM She was the Barmaid-turned-adventurer. She got to go along and be Cameron's source of sexual frustration later, after they removed Goldmoon/ Riverwind from the Angst equation. There was a groping/ heavy-breathing scene somewhere between the two of them where she gets him all worked up then says "oh wait, we can't." (1) NO. NO. NO. You have this wrong. It was Caramon who said 'We can't' when she was ready to do it. Because he had to look after his brother. Fucking clownshoes. (Tho you may have been thinking of the very first encounter when Caramon attempted to Rape Tika and she ran off. At which point, Goldmoon stepped in and, rather than power-word stunning the horny fucker, gave him a speech about despite Tika's minge being gaping and her tits full, she wasn't ready for full on anal. It was only later, in the underwater caverns when she teased herself apart and screamed TAKE ME YOU BIG WARRIOR LEVEL 9 that Caramon said 'I'm thinking about Raistlin.) zomg spoilers. And crap plot. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Merusk on July 17, 2006, 06:15:05 AM I only read the books once, and remembered someone saying "zomg no we can't!" Given the nature of most of the other women and the aforementioned cockblocking I remembered it being Tika.
I stand corrected, and pity the clarity with which you can recall these crappy Emo novels. :-D Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 06:19:49 AM Those paying attention may wonder why I care at all about this. They may think 'Good God, you won't see Ironwood in the queue for this film'. Quite the opposite. I will eagerly go to see it.
I have read ALL the Dragonlance stuff. And played all the games. I had a habit. However, it's only with Adult clarity that you can go back and look at this stuff again and notice the small details. Such as the pus. Screaming, oozing, smelly, supurating Pus. I cannot call it writing in good conscience. No, Indeed. Pus. So why go ? Nostalgia for better times, perhaps. Hope that screenwriters can polish turds, possibly. And, let's be frank, who ISN'T going to want to see Raistlin Bauer save the President Fizban from the Evil Terrorist Kitiara ? Not me, Guv. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 17, 2006, 06:22:47 AM Durrr. Didn't Tika and Caramon get married and have kids?
Will Palin be in this shit? Also, I'd really love to see Donald Sutherland play Raistlin when he gets all crippled and fucked up later in the series. Kiefer can't deliver a fucking line to save his life. AND his voice isn't full of "Dread" like Raistlin's should be and Donald's is. I am bother by them picking up who they've picked up. They better not fuck this up. Ho ho ho. Like Ironwood, Dragonlance is sort of my LoTR. Well, it's probably not that way to him, but it is to me. It's the high point of my generic fantasy book years. the main story that capped off with Dragons of Summer flame was just magnificent to me because I started on the series early enough that I got realy attached to the characters. Also, I think they could really turn this into a spectacular drama with lots of main characters dying if it's 2 movies that just cover the two main wars. But they won't. They'll have them wandering from place to place like fucking hobbits. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 17, 2006, 06:25:34 AM Quote Tanis Half-Elven Michael Rosenbaum Raistlin Majere Kiefer Sutherland Goldmoon Lucy Lawless Flint Fireforge / Fewmaster Toede Fred Tatasciore Tika Waylan Michelle Trachtenberg Caramon Majere Rino Romano Tasslehoff Burrfoot Jason Marsden Fizban The Fabulous Neil Ross Sturm Brightblade Mark Worden Riverwind & Gilthanas Phil Lamarr Bupu Jentle Phoenix Laurana Caroline Gelabert Takhisis Nikka Futterman The Forestmaster Mari Weiss Elistan Ben McCain Pyros Dee Bradley Baker Flamestrike Susan Silo Onyx Juliette Cohen There's the whole list? And wait, what the fuck did I just write? FUCK, I TOTALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS LIVE ACTION. Ok, so I see what the plotline is. Is it CGI? Fucklecockles. Already in the "wait for DVD" category. Consider me the biopolar media whore. I just went from slobberknobbing to anger in one post. Meh. It'll suck. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 17, 2006, 06:27:49 AM Third post!
From the producer of Jem and the Holograms comes Lord of the Rings: The Animated Movie Part 2: Poopadoopaloopa. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 06:30:59 AM Like Ironwood, Dragonlance is sort of my LoTR. Well, it's probably not that way to him, but it is to me. It's the high point of my generic fantasy book years. the main story that capped off with Dragons of Summer flame was just magnificent to me because I started on the series early enough that I got realy attached to the characters. Oh, Gods, No. LotR is my LotR. Dragonlance was my sneaking preteen pleasure. I hadn't yet started whacking off furiously. Actually, I think the Elmore art eventually led to that. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: schild on July 17, 2006, 06:35:54 AM LoTR was a lot of walking to me. Children who appreciate LoTR seem freakish to me. Sort of like the Children fo the Corn.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 06:36:56 AM Is that the Black version ?
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Strazos on July 17, 2006, 06:49:42 AM Elmore? (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.york.edu/athletics/volleyball/2005/Team/Elmore,%2520Sarah.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.york.edu/athletics/volleyball/Players.htm&h=480&w=319&sz=34&hl=en&start=17&tbnid=2zEjwxq2mKZ54M:&tbnh=129&tbnw=86&prev=/images%3Fq%3Delmore%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official_s%26sa%3DG)
I may have to read these books at some point, if only for the laughs. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 07:11:40 AM My God, where did you just send me ??
I think I'm now on a list somewhere. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: HaemishM on July 17, 2006, 08:05:05 AM I think Ironwood's descriptions are more entertaining than the book ever will be. I'll pass on the reading and see the thing on DVD.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Strazos on July 17, 2006, 09:02:14 AM My God, where did you just send me ?? I think I'm now on a list somewhere. Don't worry, it's a college, so they Should be legal. :evil: Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Abagadro on July 17, 2006, 09:26:53 AM This is apparently going to be animated in India by a company called Toonz Animation using artwork created by an outfit called Kunoichi. Don't get your hopes up.
Official site: http://www.dragonlance-movie.com/ Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: WayAbvPar on July 17, 2006, 09:44:40 AM Like Ironwood, Dragonlance is sort of my LoTR. Well, it's probably not that way to him, but it is to me. It's the high point of my generic fantasy book years. the main story that capped off with Dragons of Summer flame was just magnificent to me because I started on the series early enough that I got realy attached to the characters. Oh, Gods, No. LotR is my LotR. Dragonlance was my sneaking preteen pleasure. I hadn't yet started whacking off furiously. Actually, I think the Elmore art eventually led to that. The chapter where the Elven brother (can't remember his name) finds Silvara bathing had a nice drawing of her perkies. That got my attention in a big hurry. Gods, teenage boys are easy to entertain. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 10:18:51 AM Gilthanas I think.
Yeah, I remember that one. It was thumbnailed. For those not interested in sex, of course, the artwork 'Last Spell of Fistandantilus' was a really, really, really cool picture. Shame the plot of Fist/Raist made no fucking sense whatsoever. Even when explained by a Kender. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: bhodi on July 17, 2006, 10:20:50 AM nah, but if you read soulfire, that's a better re-telling of it.
Edit: it's soulforge! sorry! Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 10:26:35 AM Soulforge ?
I have read it. Alas, a followup never appeared. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Llava on July 17, 2006, 10:54:58 AM I'd worry about the Jamaican bloke from Futurama being Riverwind instead. Phil Lamarr is, by far, the most experience voice actor of that entire cast. He's been in a billion different things. He was the voice of Samurai Jack. And, apparently, he'll be voicing the Black Panther in the upcoming "Marvel: Ultimate Alliance" movie. He's a great voice actor in that he's probably been in 90% of the animated features you've seen, but you didn't realize it because it didn't sound like him. Billy West is in more stuff, but his voice is far easier to recognize. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 17, 2006, 11:11:06 AM Mate, what do you think the chances are of me knowing who he was without looking up IMDB and therefore knowing everything you just said ?
Hence the Cheapshot Icon. Although I will say, from browsing the others, that there's a LOT of varied voice talent there with a lot of Good Puter Game experience. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Llava on July 17, 2006, 11:26:29 AM Fair enough.
I just happened to notice his name in the credits of just about every show i was watching at one point, so I thought I'd check it out. This was some time ago, but the knowledge has stuck. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Morat20 on July 17, 2006, 01:41:23 PM I was always a bit fond of the dragon trap in the second book. That's how you fucking kill dragons. You send out an irresistable summons, encase the damn thing in stone so it's neck is exposed and it can't turn it's head, and go after the neck with axes.
Screw riding up on a white horse with a lance. Only other book I can recall with the same "Smart way to kill a dragon" was Hambly's Dragonsbane. The guy smeared some harpoons with what he hoped was poisonous to dragons, hid out on top of the thing's lair then when it came out after a horse he'd left as bait, stuck three of the harpoons in the dragon and ran like hell. Came back 10 hours later and finished it off with an axe. Since it was already comatose, not really dangerous. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Merusk on July 17, 2006, 03:45:52 PM For those not interested in sex, of course, the artwork 'Last Spell of Fistandantilus' was a really, really, really cool picture. Absolutly. I've got the Art of Dragonlance book around here somewhere, and I remember Parkinson mentioning that one of the Sinbad movies from the 60s was the inspiration for the background. The tower with the huge rope. Some of Parkinson's best work came out of Dragonlance, regarless of the story itself. I've got Lord Soth's Charge in a an 18x36 print I used to keep over my computer desk, too. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Signe on July 17, 2006, 06:16:48 PM I hardly know what anyone is talking about. The more I read, the less I seem to know. I feel left out. :|
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Llava on July 17, 2006, 10:25:08 PM Don't worry, Signe. I'm right there with you.
I read Drizzt books. Shut up. It was middle school and he was a dark elf. Go to hell. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 18, 2006, 01:07:34 AM You know what bothered me about the evil dark elves ? The total and complete lack of evil.
Salvatore should be boiled in a pot until he turns into soap. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Llava on July 18, 2006, 01:12:05 AM I don't know. Mercilessly slaughtering an entire family of dozens for slight political gain seems pretty evil to me, and was a pretty central part of their culture.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 18, 2006, 01:21:24 AM No, that's not evil. Our Governments do that all the time.
:rimshot: Seriously, it was fucking cardboard cutout evil that was pathetic. For a society that was ruled by Matriarchs, I expected more, but instead the women had dark hair and a sexual appetite. But to deviate from Dragonlance, they had whips too !! ZOMG ! That's not evil. Where was the goddamn cruelty. Where were the rapes. Where was the horrible slavery (though that dwarf getting both his hands cut off was cool). Where was the master plan that actually fucking worked. Where was de white women ats ? You'll note the lack of question marks. I don't care. I realise that these books were for kids, but honestly when that EQ fanstuff came out about dark elves, was I the only one that thought 'Good for him' ? Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Jain Zar on July 18, 2006, 04:13:16 AM I liked Dragonlance better than LOTR.
Yes, it was mostly crying, fighting, and fucking (seriously. That's all they do in Chronicles. They cry over everything, they fight stuff or argue with morons, or they fuck. All they do in the later Weis & Hickman books is die horribly. Because the writers are probably embarrased by their old stuff, or they avoid the Internet and hate the rabid fans.), but it didn't have Tom fucking Bombadil or pages devoted to hobbits bathing, eating, and singing songs. So if the LOTR movies can take a good idea and make it kick ass (because there is some seriously badass stuff in LOTR books, its a matter of not stabbing yourself in the eye till they get to Moria...), why can't they do the same for Dragonlance? Oh, wait. They are using a cheap animation house and its clear they are hoping to sell DVDs based on the voice talent. They should have hired the Record of Lodoss war anime people. Lodoss is basically a D&D campaign made into a cartoon anyhow, so they have experience.. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: sarius on July 18, 2006, 07:01:54 AM Just so silly that it's following the production pattern of LOTR, though, and getting animated first. Seriously, who the hell wants to see an animation of Lawless. Whoopie!
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Llava on July 18, 2006, 09:26:09 AM They did have slavery. A lot of it. They talked about it all the time. They kept anything they found that wasn't a drow in pens and would frequently trade them to the mind flayers as food.
I mean, no, they weren't going to go into rapes and all that. Like you said, they're kids' books. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Abagadro on July 18, 2006, 09:36:55 AM Quote They are using a cheap animation house and its clear they are hoping to sell DVDs based on the voice talent. Based upon the info out about it so far I will wager it goes straight to DVD. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Morat20 on July 18, 2006, 10:07:07 AM No, that's not evil. Our Governments do that all the time. If I recall correctly, Drow were chaotic evil -- so the Master Plan was, in fact, the backstabbings, interfamily warfare, generalized cruelty and torture, and it worked out best if EVERYONE was totally fucked over in the end.:rimshot: Seriously, it was fucking cardboard cutout evil that was pathetic. For a society that was ruled by Matriarchs, I expected more, but instead the women had dark hair and a sexual appetite. But to deviate from Dragonlance, they had whips too !! ZOMG ! That's not evil. Where was the goddamn cruelty. Where were the rapes. Where was the horrible slavery (though that dwarf getting both his hands cut off was cool). Where was the master plan that actually fucking worked. Where was de white women ats ? You'll note the lack of question marks. I don't care. I realise that these books were for kids, but honestly when that EQ fanstuff came out about dark elves, was I the only one that thought 'Good for him' ? You need those Nuetral Evil or Lawful Evil sorts for your Dark Overlord types, and your Master Plans. Chaotic Evil just goes around fuckin' with shit. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Merusk on July 18, 2006, 10:21:09 AM Drow are Lawful Evil.. at least the Drow most folks refer to; the ones from Menzoberranzan. Chaotic Evil types are too selfish and self-centered to establish a socieity or permanent residence of any sort; so sayeth the manuals. Obviously since it's D&D, your experience may vary.
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Morat20 on July 18, 2006, 10:45:39 AM Drow are Lawful Evil.. at least the Drow most folks refer to; the ones from Menzoberranzan. Chaotic Evil types are too selfish and self-centered to establish a socieity or permanent residence of any sort; so sayeth the manuals. Obviously since it's D&D, your experience may vary. I can't believe I'm doing this, but....Llolth is chaotic evil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloth). The drow themselves seem to be just described as "Evil". I'm not sure you could call a society which only had two rules ("Don't piss of Lolth" and "Don't be bloody obvious about it") qualifies as "lawful".The Underdark wouldn't be terribly conducive to solitary existance, so even the chaotic types would have to band together -- drow worship a chaotic goddess, their society is constantly shifting and unstable, and there are few rules whatsoever -- only power and consequences. And -- though it sullies me to my bone to admit this -- the Forgotten Realm books concerning drow seemed to take it for granted that Lolth hated long-term stability in any drow society. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 18, 2006, 02:20:55 PM Bear in mind that Lolth herself got beat up at one point and the drow went ahead and worshipped someone else.
It's all fun and games if you're a dark elf. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Morat20 on July 18, 2006, 07:51:04 PM Bear in mind that Lolth herself got beat up at one point and the drow went ahead and worshipped someone else. EVIL fun and games. What with the killings, and beatings, and random animalistic sex. Ironically, drow society is what Christians keep telling me atheists are like.It's all fun and games if you're a dark elf. I meet all the wrong sorts of atheists, it appears. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Llava on July 19, 2006, 12:59:58 AM It was a retcon, actually.
In my oldschool Monstrous Manual, likely released just after they came up with the idea of Menzoberranzananabadingdong, it lists the drow as Chaotic Evil. Their entire attitude, however, is clearly Lawful Evil. If you get caught doing it, it's wrong and they'll probably kill you. If you don't, good on you. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Morat20 on July 19, 2006, 09:37:31 AM It was a retcon, actually. I dunno, though. They encourage you to do the shit you're not supposed to get caught doing -- their entire society is built on it. And they're not exactly keen on investigating -- they don't give a shit.In my oldschool Monstrous Manual, likely released just after they came up with the idea of Menzoberranzananabadingdong, it lists the drow as Chaotic Evil. Their entire attitude, however, is clearly Lawful Evil. If you get caught doing it, it's wrong and they'll probably kill you. If you don't, good on you. So in short, it's got rules, but you're encouraged -- actually forced -- to break them as a fact of life. Seems fairly chaotic to me. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Samwise on July 19, 2006, 10:12:28 AM EVIL fun and games. What with the killings, and beatings, and random animalistic sex. Ironically, drow society is what Christians keep telling me atheists are like. I meet all the wrong sorts of atheists, it appears. Try your local SCA chapter. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Morat20 on July 19, 2006, 10:41:56 AM EVIL fun and games. What with the killings, and beatings, and random animalistic sex. Ironically, drow society is what Christians keep telling me atheists are like. I meet all the wrong sorts of atheists, it appears. Try your local SCA chapter. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: HaemishM on July 19, 2006, 11:04:48 AM EVIL fun and games. What with the killings, and beatings, and random animalistic sex. Ironically, drow society is what Christians keep telling me atheists are like. I meet all the wrong sorts of atheists, it appears. Try your local SCA chapter. Those two statements contradict one another. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Morat20 on July 19, 2006, 11:46:31 AM EVIL fun and games. What with the killings, and beatings, and random animalistic sex. Ironically, drow society is what Christians keep telling me atheists are like. I meet all the wrong sorts of atheists, it appears. Try your local SCA chapter. Those two statements contradict one another. Plus my kids loves it. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Lantyssa on July 19, 2006, 07:23:11 PM In my oldschool Monstrous Manual, likely released just after they came up with the idea of Menzoberranzananabadingdong, it lists the drow as Chaotic Evil. I hope you meant Fiend Folio. /geekNah. My wife likes to sew, so she makes a new costume each time we go. And her best friend does the same thing. I'm not going to turn down an afternoon of my wife and her rather hot friend wandering around in something showing off a lot of cleavage. :) I can put up with the occasional idiot -- and Klingon. For some reason, the Texas Ren Fest attracted Klingons for several years. We have a pretty good RenFest, but those Klingons were odd. We've had some anime cosplayers running around lately, too...Plus my kids loves it. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Strazos on July 20, 2006, 04:47:29 AM At least Inuyasha wouldn't be Terribly out of place...
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Lantyssa on July 20, 2006, 02:27:09 PM Sephiroth would be though...
Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Rasix on July 20, 2006, 02:40:08 PM Nothing good can come of discussing elves. And this thread proves it.
Quote Glenn Royer's List of Reasons to Hate Elves They're uppity. They have the pointiest ears. Everybody adores them. They live for hundreds of years. They don't grow old. They're always the protagonist. They're always up to something. They live in trees, yet have a highly advanced culture. They build impossibly tall spires (which should snap like matchsticks according to physics). They have a god complex. Every other one is a magic user. Every leaf is sacred. They're majestic and mysterious. They're dark and secretive. They're aloof and enigmatic. There are too many types of them!! Everything they make is "lighter, yet stronger" or "delicate, yet sturdy". They think they know everything. Call something Elven and it's better. They're beautiful but deadly. The elven attitude. Courtesy of googling, "I hate elves". Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: GenVec on July 22, 2006, 05:51:10 AM Greyhawk was generic D&D land. It was the first 'world' and one in which anything in the AD&D ruleset could happen. Planescape was Gods & Demigods and other-planar beings. Pretty much what you saw in the CRPG. Dragonlance is the "romantic" fantasy setting (thus the melodrama, I suppose) and included Dragons & Dragon-mounted "Lances" for aireal jousting.. There were no Gods in Dragonlance, as the gods had withdrawn. There was something about the moons and mages, too. The Gods didn't withdraw until post Dragons of Summer Flame, which thoroughly gutted the setting and turned it to shit. Keep in mind that this is my opinion when I was 12, so the entire thing might have been fecal matter without me ever knowing it. Summer Flame was my favorite book for a few years however, if for no other reason than seeing Tanis's miserable hide get skinned. The trilogy starring Caramon and Raistlin and set between Spring Dawning/Summer Flame was also pretty good, though they'd be hard pressed to turn that into any coherent sort of film. The powers that be should get their shit together and turn David Eddings' Elenium series into a film. Or make an MMO out of David Gemmel's Drenai Saga. Preferably one just as brutal and bloody as the series. As for an animated Dragonlance, I predict a level of success on par with the previous D&D film. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Cheddar on July 22, 2006, 07:46:56 AM The trilogy starring Caramon and Raistlin and set between Spring Dawning/Summer Flame was also pretty good, though they'd be hard pressed to turn that into any coherent sort of film. Yeah, it was. I like how they showed Raist as completely consumed with power, to the point of sacrificing anyone in his way. I enjoyed the dark tones and eventually character resolutions. Of course you saw them coming a mile away, but it was still a good teen trilogy. Plus Caramon hit level 20, bitches. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Resvrgam on July 26, 2006, 02:23:15 AM It's about time! I suppose releasing an animated film in the long wake after the LOTR frenzy has started losing its steam is better than nothing at all.
I remember the rumors of a Dragonlance film sputtering through Dragon Magazine back in 1990 and am glad it might actually see the light of day. I never particularly cared for any of the D&D settings, especially the Forgotten Realms. Dragonlance was probably the one series I actually bothered to last more than one book with because a few of the characters held my interest. True, Dragonlance is stained in the awful sludge that is Dungeons & Dragons and true; the series feels a little more geared toward a younger demographic but there's no way I would condemn this to the polyp-filled bowels of a Sci-Fi original movie just yet. Hell, the Chronicles of Anthropomorphic Pedophiles...er...Narnia pretty much drove a stake through the heart of the whole fantasy genre Peter Jackson's opus attempted to rekindle (the less said about the new Star Wars movies the better). I'd actually love to see how Hollywood could ruin my perceptions of Weis & Hickman's characters. Having Xena voice Goldmoon isn't that bad....as long as Chris Rock (or one of the Wayans Bros.) doesn't voice Tasslehoff Burrfoot, I'll go see the film. I hope they take some liberties with the story and change a few over-the-top scenes that felt tacked on: the forest dinner with the Great Stag, a better reasoning for dragging a senial geriatric (Fizban) along for the infiltration of Pax Tharkas, Tanis being so damn whiny all the time, an extended scene in Xak Tsaroth where Riverwind is completely melted by acid from Khisanth's breath attack (God, I hated that one-dimensional character....he must've been someone's "mule"), etc. I have a feeling the producers may make Raistlin some badass in the representations of the early books despite being mostly inept and annoying. His time to shine really didn't occur until he became the badass, black-robed rapist. Raistlin Majere...starring Vin Diesel.....no thanks. Still, better late than never I suppose. Title: Re: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless Post by: Ironwood on July 26, 2006, 04:25:51 AM I wouldn't worry. They'll have to pare down quite a bit of the 'fluff' to make for a decent movie. Also, I'm not sure that Narnia did anything to fantasy movies : It was too boring to take seriously and too CGI to dismiss as tripe. I watched it and forgot about it instantly, it was so bland.
Raistlin was never that inept and annoying. He at least retained the quality of keeping his head when all about were losing theirs. He really came in to his own when the Inn fell on top of them. A very memorable chapter that. |