f13.net

We got te guild started.  Currently Stray is guild lead (he wanted to make the crest!)  I will take back guild master status soon as he is done, or something.

Stray
Rojin - Rogue

Righ
Toizo - Rogue

Cheddar
Arzhel - Rogue

Kelthos
Kelthos - Hunter

Flood
Geiss: 45 Hunter
Griefing: 22 Rogue
*Fogcatcher: 22 Druid




That is all.  For now.

I logged off for now...Just in case you come back in tonight, I gave Velorath GM powers. He'll be on for another hour or two.

Also, we can't change the name without petitioning a GM. When you get the chance (or if someone gets the chance), we should do it. I feel like an advertisement.

Not to rain on your annoucements and all Sausage, but I've been healbotting and chaperoning people on the server for the past few days and I want some gawd damn credit!  :evil:

Seriously though:

Geiss: 45 Hunter
Griefing: 22 Rogue
*Fogcatcher: 22 Druid

I've been using Fog mainly and consider him the defacto guild member since he is the right level, he can heal and buff, and he can stealth since we are rogue heavy.

So it's going to be Burning Region?  Nether Region?  Burning Nether Region?

It's "F Thirteen Dot Net". Needs to change imho. If possible.

From the man who will quit in a week.   :roll:

Cripes, you guys could use a rogue.

 :-o

Stealth is just so much fun on a PvP server.  I had a rogue, too, he's 33 or 34ish.   Combat spec ftw.

That's a terrible name and I thought you were playing UO, anyway.  I'll wait for Burning Region, I think... what good is my name, Itchyrash, without it anyway? 

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic here. You're not trying goad/insult me are you?

I like F13 as much as anyone else. It's really the "Dot Net" thing that bothers me though. I feel like a walking commercial. Plus, it's an RP server. It's kind of out of place.

Well, that's it really.  It's obvious I enjoy f13, but I don't want to be a billboard for it when I'm playing a game.  I'm more than happy to talk about it with people, and even recommend it.  I don't the any of that name, actually.  I realise that Bat Country was taken, and I think Burning Region is funny.  I'm not particularly fussy about names but hawking anything over my head in a game just rubs me wrong.  Since I pretty much dislike WoW's PvP (and EQ2's, too), I think maybe Emerald Dream isn't the right server for me anyway.  Why should I bother with the extra crap that always goes with a PvP server if I'm not going to bother partaking?  I might play on one of the new servers now and then, though.

Aerie Peak is a new PvE server. It's on the new hardware, same as Lethon. I'm more than willing to move anywhere though, if that's what it takes to get 10 or so of us playing together (especially you Signe  :heart:).

Coming from the poster boy for MMO ADD, that's funny.  :-D

If I allowed myself to have more than one active MMO sub, I'd join you all on a new PVE server.

I think I made a character on that sever.  I have a ton of characters on Earthen Ring but I'm not really interested in any of them, anymore.  I just don't see the point of playing on a PvP server if I'm not interested in it.  Normal or RP is fine.  There are many less fucktards on those, too.  I made a char on Lethon the other day thinking it would be a quiet place to set up my mods.  Within a minute I was bombarded with duel invites and some moron "flirting" with me and shouting, "Strip Dance" at me.  I told him to sod off and he wouldn't so I reported him for sexually harassing me.  That was sort of fun.

What do you play these days, anyway, Rasix?

Heh...


I've been trying to dabble with Alliance, but if we do play a PvE server, then it has to be Horde. They tend to be even more flooded than usual with Alliance characters, I think.

I'll make a shammy on Aerie Peak, if anyone's interested (wouldn't want to level one solo though).

EVE.  Kind of burnt out at the moment so taking a little time off.  Not sure if I'd classify it as "fun", but it is an interesting game.  Lots of stuff happens and people shoot at you for no reason.

And I traded in my XBlock for a PS2. Catching up on a lot of gaming goodness I missed, starting with God of War (whoever designed that Path to Hades level can kiss my ass).

I think I need a beta or something.  Ohh, and I'm currently toying around with that free shard people mentioned in that UO thread for nostalgia's sake.   :| Hey, it's free!

I should play alliance eventually.  I've always only played horde except one alliance character I got to level 15. 

Nice Rasix, I just got a ps2 on the cheap and have been playing that as well, good times.  Also loaded up WC3 and been playing DotA since it's more fun even with smacktards than any battleground I've played till date.

I will say though, I am mighty tempted by you fuckers.

Mighty.

How about "Female Trouble" for a guild name?

I don't understand how you could let such a golden opportunity go by.  You could have toyed with him in so many ways that he would have been calling a CRS instead.  Start by convincing him that you're a man but nevertheless interested.  That sort of thing will make retards like that disappear very quickly.

I know, but I was irritated.  I had a bajillion mod windows opened on my screen and some jackass yelling at me to strip.  This is WoW, though, and I'm sure we shall have golden opportunity after golden opportunity... especially if we roll elves or undead girlies.

I'm logging into Aerie Peak for now. Maybe I'll start a trend.....?? Once I have a free 10 silver, I'll make a Bat Country guild charter, just in case.

Holding off on a shaman. Will be an Orc Hunter. My name is Brax.

[edit] Actually, I'll take that back. Brax will be the Rogue. Rojin, the Hunter.

I just want a rogue for now. Somewhere.

I can't even download the stupid fing patch.  An hour later and it's up to 7M.  Need to go find it elsewhere.

I am only playing Emerald Dream.  Hope you kids have fun on the new servers!


FYI, I see nothing wrong with F Thirteen Dot Net.  I could care less what fucking name was above my head; I prefer Bat Country, but it was not an option.  The name "Severence" always felt stupid to me.  I dunno, its my opinion and I could be wrong.

Don't know what we're doing. I'm just hinting at a few ways to get everyone in the same spot. It'd be nice.

It went faster for me when I turned off peer-to-peer. Blizzard appear to be using the anti-torrent, where the more people there are, the slower it gets.

My bad, I did not mean to sound so maudlin.  And I was not calling you out with my "leave in one week" comment.  Was friendly banter.  Promise!

To be fair though, I probably will leave in a week.  :-D

At least if I keep on leveling up newb rogues, I will (and that's my fault, I know).

I am tempted to roll a druid.  Problem is I HATE having mutliple alts; after 9 years in MMOGs it just doesn't work for me.  I must be getting old. :(

Even though you're trying to cover it with your hand, you're clearly going bald.

But it's a nice bike.

(http://members.aol.com/termpix/t1000_21.jpg)

Son of a bitch!  As if I do not get enough comments when I remove my hat.  Seriously, it makes me sad.  I have to go to third world countries to get my 18 year old lady friends, now.  Goddamn shallow American women!

Grow a mustache. The baldness only works with a mustache. G. Gordon Liddy style. You'll be pulling in the honeys, believe me.

But then I would have to meet women on mySpace!

Cheddar, F Thirteen Dot Net is a pretty weak guild name. There's a reason I use Bat Country whenever possible. BTW, if Bat Country is taken - which I know it is because you're on our old server - I would have recommended Cat Bountry.

I am not very creative, as stated before.  Besides, it only takes a few minutes to get a guild going.  Sheesh thats the last time I start a guild around here!

I thought it was cheeky :(

Must be changed to Burning Region immejiately!

Bat Country is taken. I say this because I clearly got 10 silver before you, so the pressure is off. :)

Created a troll mage called Sloejin.

I crashed out for a few after that. Not sure what happened. Must have been something I hate. I'll log in now.

And by "taken" you mean you took it, right? Don't tell me someone ganked Bat Country on another server.

Please make a character on Aerie something or other and sign Sloejin's guild charter.  No one is signing it and it's making him sad.   :?  This means YOU TOO, Cheddar. 

Let me cheer you up with a movie of your more hirsute days:

http://www.devilducky.com/media/16656/

You're being too sensitive now in addition to paranoid. I made that post only because I wanted to say Cat Bountry. I figured that was fairly obvious. :P

/rant

Man, I'm gonna have to pay Righ in real cash for sitting around getting that charter signed. Sorry bro. Especially considering that I still can't shake off the desire to play Alliance (lol?  :-(). Or the least I could do is give him my gold on ED.

Why oh why did I suggest Horde on Aerie Peak? I'm literally developing a tick. I'm up to my fucking eyeballs with the Horde. It's all I've ever really seen of this game. And worst of all, I feel guilty for not enjoying it....

I hate the Horde. More than even Night Elves. YES. More. Motherfucking hunchbacked, wasteland wandering, quillboar whacking, hard on the eyes, frustrating waste of time.

There I admitted it.

/straitjacket

Probably would have had a decent time in this game long ago if I had two things: 1) A cool group like you guys to play with. 2) BUT....On the Alliance side.

Note: This is just my utterly delirious, 4:00 AM way of saying I'm rolling "a" Alliance character on Aerie Peak. Don't read too much into it.

Horde will have Bat Country, but I'll consider making a charter for Alliance too. Then there'll be a choice. Maybe both will win out. Maybe none. All I know is I'm going to try to experience WoW in a way that best works for me.

Alliance sucks too. I'd know, I got a Paladin to 60, solo. Full blues.

Heh..

Say what?!

The game does feel 'different' if you play the other side once or twice, though. New quests and newbie zones you haven't seen before unless you made an effort to go there.  However, you have to enjoy the basic mechanics first, which I believe was your problem, Schild. 

Things that happened in 1867:

January 8 - African-American men granted the right to vote in the District of Columbia
February 3 - Shogun Tokugawa Yoshinobu abdicates, and the late Emperor Komei's son, Prince Mutshuhito ( Emperor Meiji) becomes emperor of Japan. End of the Late Tokugawa shogunate.
February 17 - The first ship passes through the Suez Canal
March 1 - Nebraska is admitted as the 37th U.S. state.
June 19 - Firing squad executes Emperor Maximilian of Mexico
July 1 - The Dominion of Canada is created by the British North America Act.
September 2 - Emperor Meiji of Japan marries Ichijo Masako. The Empress consort is thereafter known as Lady Haruko.
October 27 – Giuseppe Garibaldi's troops march into Rome
December 2 - In a New York City theater, British author Charles Dickens gives his first public reading in the United States.

It's also the number of hours, as of this post, that Merusk has played WoW.

What does all of this mean?



























Nothing.

The basic mechanics, for me (can't speak for Schild, of course), are something I've come to accept and have gotten used to over the years. It's the same as just about every other MMORPG.

With one caveat: It's only really worth accepting and getting used to when there's friends around. Socializing covers a multitude of sins.

This would apply to Alliance or Horde side.

The reason why I'd rather play Alliance though is that the zones are better. Simple as that. Well, that, and that some of the quests seem more interesting on the conceptual level. Human rogues get cool little storyarcs involving SI:7, while my Troll gets mostly jack, shit, and quillboars.

I was kidding, it was a running gag while you were gone. I never got a paladin to 60. I never played past day 28 of my "free" $90 month. In fact, the mechanics are exactly the reason I left. I can deal with purple triangle graphics. I can deal with a half-assed loot system. I can deal with brainless crafting.

But Diku-Based advancement?

I CAN'T GET BEHIND THAT.

*Sigh*

Instead of worrying about Alliance or Horde rogues, I think I need to take a break and play Thief again or something.

Stray, 3 words:

Hitman: Blood Money.

I've been planning to get to it for weeks, but I've been too attached to the computer to get to the living room and 360 and my computer itself has that wonky power supply. But the makeshift one I rigged tonight should make it ok. Why don't you just do what I do? Only play games that are new, in beta, and free until a company decides Diku isn't the way to go. Gaming will be more fulfilling, I promise.

See you in 2048!

1867 was a good year.

I'm so confused.  Is Phyllis all alone now on ED?

Where is who playing?

Aerie something.  Cheddar fagged up ED.   :evil:

No, I don't think she's alone. Flood, Velorath, Righ and Cheddar (and soon Ched's real life friends?) are playing there. The other server thing was an idea tossed about because a PvE server would attract more people. Maybe even Signe.

As for me, PvE and PvP isn't much of an issue. PvP would be ideal, I guess, but I can play either one. I'm just whining about playing the Horde. It's always been the main perspective from which I've played the game, and I've had enough of it. I don't hold WoW in the highest regard to begin with, but imho, playing Alliance will at least breath some new life into it for me. It might be the other way around for other people though, and I could understand that.

I never got as far as you lot with either side but I hardly played Alliance at all.  I keep meaning to give it a go.  Since I don't much care for WoW's PvP, I suppose I gravitate towards Normal or Normal PvE because I can have both sides on one server.

I'm getting a sense of deja vu. It was like this on F13 at launch too. Of course, at that point we had server instability moving people from place to place.

I have characters on PvE, PvP, RP-PvE, RP-PvP servers, both Horde and Alliance. I can delete characters to make spots for characters on other servers, as I've done this week on three servers (Emerald Dream (Horde), Lethon (Alliance), Aerie Peak (Horde & Alliance)). However, it would be good if we settled somewhere, becuase it gets old restarting after a while.

But if we're going somewhere other than ED or AP Horde, somebody else can create the guild.

I'm fine on AP (that's the Aerie one, no?).  We can have a horde guild and an alliance guild if we want on a normal server, can't we?

OK, I've got a few ideas...

1) The good thing about the PvE servers is that we aren't restricted. I could make an Alliance charter on Aerie Peak if/when the time is right.

2) There's another fairly new server (Thrall), not as packed in the newb lands (been out a couple of weeks). Alliance chars could go there.

3) The new Lethon PvP server

4) Cenarion Circle old school RP server

5) WAIT for a new RP (PvE) server. Heh

If all else fails, I might come full circle and roll on the server I first saved names on when the game came out. Stormreaver. Not exactly ideal, since it's an established PvP server, but I have a RL friend who dabbles off and on there when he doesn't want to play Horde. Anyone would be welcome to join me if it came to this.

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Reason #751 why I cherish Shadowbane PvP: ARAC

Indeed.. and it's happened in about every other game, too.  We all have friends/ family who we want to play with as well but who take priority over a group of crotchety casuals such as found here.  The single server for everyone model is probably the only reason F13 eve group even got off the ground, much less is doing as well as it is.

This is sad....Because Righ has been a pal. Along with everyone else. Flood, Xanthippe.. It can work. Somehow.

Ok I made Xanthippe the orc warlockior on AP.

/invited

Btw Righ, I could only give her Veteran powers.

OK dudes. I invited Xanth to both guilds (ED and AP). Either way, you guys could get something going. Don't let me drag it down. I need to get this Alliance crap out of my system. Who knows, maybe I'll be back.

I'll probably stick with my Hunter on ED for now.  Never really checked out a lot of the lv. 50 and up content (have a Human rogue in his 50's on PVE server Uther also), so it's more appealing to me than going through the low level content again.  I'll be more inclined to focus on playing a new character once the expansion comes out so I can check out the new starting areas.

So anyways....I'm rolling an Alliance priest. I can't believe I didn't think of this before. Uber class. It's the only way that I'll be able to kill people on both sides.

Inspired.

I quit.  FYI.

Heh I logged into ED Hordeside then AP Hordeside - not a single person online as of this post.  Of course I don't know Stray's Allianceside priests' name sooooooo.

[edit]

Cheddar, why quit now? Or did you already have a running subscription or something? As far as I can tell, ED is still probably the place to be. It's just that I'm not on it (and between you and me, you're better off! ;)).

The internet. It's so bad.

That edit speaks volumes Stray.

Heh, don't read too much into it. The character's still there. I was just tempted to go for another server where I could get some starting silver.

Eh...Whatever. It was Rojin again on Aerie Peak/Alliance.

[edit]

Anyways...So..I'm sticking with it (AP server). A tailor/enchanter/priest probably doesn't need to worry about money just yet.

Yeah I didn't mean it to come off like that, I am in not position to put a judgement on what's "fun" for people to do/play in WoW.  I'm just as bad.

On AP my horde name is Knickers and my Alliance name is Midden, I think. (because she' s such rubbish)  By the time I actually have a chance to sink my teeth into a game again, everyone will have probably wandered off to play something else.   :|  When I'm not watching footie, I'm packing boxes and doing other stuff.  I try to get at least an hour or so in either WoW or EQ2 a day... just so I don't forget what I'm doing.  Unfortunately, it's been days and days since I've played EQ2 so I'm likely to have forgotten everything about it.  I'm bad with memory.

Wands kick ass. I had no idea. Do they still remain cool in the high levels?

So long as you keep getting a high-dps for your level or blue wand (same as with any other weapon) they're pretty nice and let a priest dish out some very nice DPS while keeping the mana high.  My 'crappy' wand has 67 dps as a level 60. Not bad at all when you compare it to the 1h & 2h weapons melee are using.   So long as you keep your wand skill high the resist rate isn't crappy, either.

 My usual routine as a holy was Holy Fire- SWP- Bubble - Wand the fuck out of them.  Then I'd just reapply swp or bubble as needed.  As a shadow while leveling-up it was a bit different, and I saved the wanding for when I hit about 50% mana, so my spirit would regen as I fought.

I take it that a healer can take advantage of wanding more than others then, right?

Also, can any class duel wield them?

There's no dual wanding regardless of class. 

As far as wands for a weapon as a caster - think of it as your melee weapon, or even better, wielding a bow.  Wands have a damage variance, stat buffs, a damage type and an attack speed.  Basically they provide a manaless DPS source for casters.  All casters can benefit from good wand damage, and if you teach yourself to observe the 5 second rule you can really decrease your down time.

Priests in particular benefit from wanding because of PW: Shield.  You can sit inside your Shield and rip wand autoshots.  Many people will tell you that getting (and upgrading) a decent wand as a Priest or Warlock is the single most important item you can acquire to speed your levelling.

Yeah, I just realized it was in the ranged slot. Silly question.

Man, what have I done? I don't see anyone logging into ED anymore (or Horde AP for that matter). I don't expect anyone to roll Alliance, but I hope I didn't spoil whatever it was that was happening on Emerald Dream.

[edit]

Err...That sounds kind of egotistic, doesn't it? Didn't mean it that way.

I don't think the ED thing was on for so long that you could have spoiled it, was it?  I explained somewhere around here why I've not been able to log in much... I haven't logged into EQ2 for about a week or so now.  It's temporary.  I saw Righ playing around with a dorf on AP last night.  I don't know anyone's alliance name to check for people, however... not even Righ.

Anyway, don't start feeling guilty or I'll poke fun at you.

My playtime has been down too.  I've not played EQ2 either.  I'm still interested in ED Horde side, since I don't have a horde pvp anything (other than Phyllis).  I have several alliance toons already (now on two different servers, due to an offered transfer), so if you need cash and want to play on a pvp server, play either Shattered Hand or Korgath and I can help you out either place.  (I think Korgath has been around since March; SH is original).

I'm hoping to play more next week, but this weekend is pretty full.

Will do.

Anyways, on AP my alliance priest is Rojin. I'm still a little open minded about Horde characters on AP or Lethon, but I think I'm going to count ED out for good. I already find WoW abnormally difficult to get situated in for a variety reasons, but if I play Horde on a established PvP server, I'm just setting myself up for definite failure. I'm just not masochistic enough to roll a new toon there. Even if I got to 60, it'd be a stupid idea to go out and play him anywhere except small instances. I wouldn't enjoy battlegrounds, and definitely wouldn't enjoy world PVP: People are equipped up the ass in epics on servers like that. And no guild wants new rogues, of all things, so I can play those raids that'll help me get similarly equipped.

My other character on ED is a warrior, and they have the same dillemma. Any guild willing or able to get competitive gear already has a large pool of tanks. Else they wouldn't even be running through those dungeons to begin with.

In the last two evenings I've only managed about an hour of WoW. I levelled up my dwarf called Gunnar on AP to 8 or 9 or something, so apparently I know how to level a hunter fairly quickly.

However, just to disarm your point about "already has a large pool of tanks" - if you are a half decent player with an inclination and the time to raid, then you'll typically have no problem finding a raiding guild, even on a well-established server. All raid guilds depend on a steady stream of recruits, because people get bored, have RL commitments, defect, whatever.

OK, just one last thing. If you guys are gravitating towards Horde, would you still be interested in AP or Lethon? After all, we've already got Bat Country formed on one of them. I'm still gonna play this priest a bit, but I could try a Tauren Shaman somewhere: Benefits being that I have never played one, they have a nice starting area, and they're not hunchbacks. And if I roll him on AP, maybe it'll be good thing that I have an Alliance alt on there as well.

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Heh. Nevermind. Just saw that I asked this question above.

I've been dinking around on AP as well, just because I enjoy the (potentially) more mellow pace of PvE. 

I'm a member of Hordeside Bat Country with my little trolly hunter, but the onlly other person I've seen online is "Doomborn".  He's a level 12 Warrior last I checked, and hasn't responded to any of my chat in /guild.  All he does is log on/off periodically , and seems to be online 24/7.

Anywho: Geiss = AP Horde, Jagdhund = AP Alliance

Heh. Our only Bat Country representative. Poor guy.


Well, if you log in right now, can you invite "Korr"? That's my Shammy....Just in case.

I've got my rogue (Brax) in the guild too.

Err....ED guild is gone, I see. What happened?

I'll probably play a bit over the weekend. Doomborn appears to be entirely new to WoW - he didn't know what the guild charter was all about. On the other hand, he instantly knew what Bat Country was, picking up the Hunter Thompson reference rather than thinking it was somthing to do with Avenged Sevenfold (as everybody else did).

Much better than the stragglers we had in the ED guild. If I recall correctly, there was a lvl 14-ish hunter in that guild, crying on guild chat about getting swamped by mobs and dying a lot.

I looked on the guild roster and saw that he was in Azshara. Wtf.

Cheddar Velorath acting out would be my guess.

It was actually my fault.

It wasn't really serving a purpose.  We're pretty much better off with just the f13 chat so we can still talk to each other and group together obviously, but we're all  free to join more active guilds if we want (and because of that there's less pressure for all of us to focus on one server).

You disbanded the guild even though there were people in it?  I am shocked!  Why didn't you just leave?  Or am I missing something here?

Good work, Vel!   :-D

(I was pretending to be shocked)

Stray had given me the GM powers for the guild.  The only way it would let me leave without disbanding the guild is if I handed off the powers to someone else.  With Cheddar having given up already, and Stray and Righ playing mostly on other servers, the only person I could have probably passed it off to was Flood.  It didn't seem worth the effort to try and get him on at the same time as me to pass off the GM powers to him as he would have been stuck with 4 or 5 people we don't know, in a guild with a stupid, stupid name.

Good decision.

Not sure everyone knows this, but one can make whatever channel one wants, by typing /join channelname

The first person creates the channel, everyone else who types it will join in.  Moderation passes to whoever is left or was first or whatever - I don't know what a moderator can do, because I've never investigated.  The channel is persistent in that you don't need to rejoin it every time you log in.

So anyway, on ED, there's an f13 channel.  I'm assuming there's one on Lethon or AP as well?

I was only teasing you, Vel.  It was a fine move.  And I don't know if anyone's made a channel for f13 on AP.  I've added people to my friends list but, every time I've been on (granted, it's not often) only Righ has been around.  I can just shout at him from over here.

We have the BC guild on Horde side. I just made an /f13 channel on Alliance. If you see a Talron or Rojin, that's me.

[edit]

Also, this server is up to the brim with people in the newb lands still. I don't what it is about it, but I don't like it.

I need a Plan B.

....

Oh wait, this is Plan B.

I played for a short time last night and there were a ton of people dancing naked and talking dirty in Human Land.   :-(  I had to tell at least 10 people to piss off and leave me alone.   :|

Yeah, I don't know what's up. /Emote dancing, Chuck Norris chat, and 50 person raids on Hogger. They're constantly asking "Is this a new server?" too. As if they were just plopped in there, and didn't see the "New" status at startup.

LOL, what haven't you guys ever played on a new server?

WERE IS MAKIRKS WIFF?!??!1????


Uh anyway wasn't that bad around IF.

It's actually the part about them not knowing wtf server they're even on that confuses me. Chuck Norris is a given.

I noticed that a couple of people had hit level 50 already. Presumably by doing round-the-clock dorm room shifts.

They're probably hunters.  And if you talk to them, you're likely to get a "ni hao, ma" back.

There are more random idiots on new servers, I think, than established ones, and I haven't noticed a difference in number of idiots on pvp servers than pve servers.  Harder to level up, also, because there are no 60s to throw gold away buying copper and other low level items.

Chuck Norris jokes were all the rage on Shattered Hand last winter.  I haven't heard one in a while.  Korgath seems to be a real nice server (I've been playing back on my main toons today and yesterday a bit - alliance side).  Tanaris is a KOS zone, more than SH was - but the two sides are more even than on SH too.

Just like when we kicked everyone out of the EQ2 guild.

Level 51 elf warrior (called Xjgcbxf, so probably machine generated), level 51 elf hunter. Neither return calls. Six out of the next eight highest level are rogues, one mage, one hunter. Two replied, one with chinese. Hunters are most popular (19%) then warriors (18%) followed by rogues (12%) - pretty much the same distributions as every other server, elves and humans are fairly evenly split and account for 75% of Alliance.

That was FUN!

Did you just crash, Righ? I got kicked and can't log in. I swear, it's those damn Elves. If I had a screenshot, you'd see why. It's like a small city just in the Elf log in area. :(

Anyways...

Righ didn't crash but I accidentally disconnected and the log in server let me down.  It's literally dead to me.

(why does the bloody spellamawanky agree with me when I fucking spell something wrong?  What the fuck good is it?)

No, but I did drop out to the login screen, so I picked Horde and did a census - down to around 400. I'm going to check Alliance and see how many dropped. However, its currently looking like Horde averages around 600, and Alliance averages around 1400 in prime time. Horde is also way behind teh levlling curve - fewer people, fewer farmers I guess. The top Horde is a troll mage, level 51 called Swxzbsr - presumably also machine generated. Only three other Hrde are over level 40, compared with dozens Alliance side.

[edit] Heh, forget the previous question.


So, what are you running the census for, Righ? Trying to gauge which side is better to play on? I'd assume it's always Horde, except in rare cases.

1. - A few/a cluster/lots of servers are down.  The usual WoW forum feeding frenzy has ensued.

2. - I use WarcraftRealms Census+ plugin.  I've had it installed since yesterday.  I don't recall the numbers, I was more interested in the class percentages.

3. - WTH are yal, I was just on both of my AP toons prior to the server boom hehe.

I was on a Druid. Didn't see you on the friend's list.

I ran into Righ though. He recommended (if I want to be "unique") that I play a Gnome Warlock. But I can't think of a damn name. I have "Shiver" on Warsong and Stormreaver though! -- Would be great for a Mage.

I don't know, I can see a population imbalance that big being a problem once they revamp world PVP.

Btw, can you point me to some of their ideas about that? How will it effect PvE servers? If it's going to be better, I wonder if PvE is a bad idea...

Haven't read any details yet, but then I mostly stay away from the WoW boards unless links are posted to something useful there.  So far all I've read is:

I'm not trying to be the Zen Bandit here, or tell anyone else how to have fun, but I notice we (me included) on the board are getting all worked up about server pops, class %'s, PvE versus PvP, blah blah blah.
 
Again as I drag out the hoary old chestnuts, but we should just play to have fun.  In the end I doubt any of us are going to hit level 60 on any of these servers, or join a hardcore rading guild, or make High Warlord.  That being the case it doesn't matter what classes we all play, or if we are Horde or Alliance.

I catch myself doing it all the time.  I'm all worked up that there's yea hunters on the servers, but... why do I care?  Am I going to miss raid content that I'll never be able to access anyway?  :roll:

My point is: I just enjoy playing with my pals and the actual levelling process, not the end result.  I'm trying to practice this philosophy in my good ol' real life, so just thought I'd throw in my 2 copper.


Heh, anyway hope to see ya all online.

Some of us worry about this kind of thing for fun.  It's a sickness really.

I realize that, that's why I didn't want to don my white robe and start chanting just yet.  I guess my feeling is how can a person enjoy playing when they never let themselves get beyond level 7 because of restarting or server hopping or faction switching based on second-guessing.  Only my personal stand on the subject.

I don't know, it generally doesn't stop me from leveling up a character (not wanting to go through content I've already done several times before does that for me).

I have never, ever thought of this kind of thing until WoW actually. And not even that. More like, until I resubbed to it recently. I don't know why. I've become downright neurotic about it. This is my most unproductive month in a game ever. So many little things bug the shit out of me -- Server atmosphere, rulesets, hunting areas, and probably most of all, the shitty class and race choices. Pretty much the same problems with any MMO, I guess, but amplified for some reason.

That being said, I'm going to try to take your advice, Flood. More than likely, I'm not going to resub after this month goes out anyways.

It's second nature to me after having playing DAOC for a good while.

At least you could /20 there  :-)

I had a lot of alts in Shadowbane, I guess, but it only took a week for me to level them (except the first few probably). I also didn't have to drive myself crazy over equipping myself in that game. Gear was bullshit. "Which hunting area?" was a nonexistent question. It was all the same. ARAC made things a lot easier to mess around too.

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To further add:

I don't know if I suck at WoW or simply hate it.

Yeah, I just run Census+ for fun. It's one of those things that makes everybody on the server into microbes on my petri dish, and its at its best on new servers, because they have volatile populations. I like to see how many people are what classes, what imbalances there are, difference in AH pricing between factions, how many people run instances, and how this stuff changes over time, etc. It breaks up the monotony of levelling up characters. I guess it started with the problems ER had due to its huge imbalance (over 2.5:1 A:H originally) and was fed by the fun stuff that PARC published.

I was just playing on an Australian server.  I logged on in the middle of a huge fight between all the Americans who logged in because they couldn't log into their usual server and the Aussies.  The Aussies were telling the Americans to bugger off their server and the Americans were screaming "racism"... when did American and Australian become races?  They were all arguing about footie and Pussy.  Oops... I mean Bush.  It was very ugly.  It all took place on the /LFG channel.  I finally ditched the channel and joined a guild named "ZOMG - My server is down!  I was the 3rd person to join and when I logged out 10 minutes later, it must have had over 30 members.

I think I'll go sleep.   :roll:

Does the name generator know about vowels?

I presume the idea is that it makes a name that nobody has taken at the first attempt. If the name is unsuitable (such as on an RP server) they can just wait for a GM to rename them.

I ha played for quite a while before they put that in.  Would have been nice to have early on.

I would have preferred getting to 20 and then /level to 50.

Update on my hunter (btw, me, Righ, and Flood rolled horde hunters on AP):

Just spent 2 hours trying to get Rake. The Mulgore plains is aggro HELL. It was not meant to be (yet). Got close to him once, and tried to tame, but for some reason unknown to me, it didn't work. Then I died. Then I ran back to my corpse and he was never seen again.

Yeah, sometimes the taming just fails.  Haven't seen a pattern to it yet or anything.

Not interrupted, like when my troll got Mangeclaw (had to burn a pot and try again right way to get him), but just plain fails.

Tends to result in death.

Then of course, there is always the evil Alliance puke who sees you trying to tame and then kills the mob in question.  A nice griefing move available to PVE servers.  Quite unpleasant.

I've never had a problem getting Rake.  He's just not that cool, though.

On the other hand, surviving the trek from Happy Happy Hordeland all the way to North Gate Pass in Dun Morogh to tame one of only 3 white bears in the game?  Totally worth getting killed four times in the attempt.

After all, for the next 40 levels or so everyone KNOWS that I made it all the to the Dwarf lands to get my pet and survived.

That, and bears eat EVERYTHING.  Gotta love that.

Sweet, I just got him right after I posted that  :-).

Anyways, I'm only Level 10, so even if he isn't that cool, it's a great pet for now.  8-) I'm also a Tauren, so getting a rare spawn in Mulgore is convenient.

I used to be a huge bear fan until I got a boar. Boars own, they come with charge at L8 or less. They eat anything. Bears need a species specific buff.

At the high end, I've switched to a buzzard, or flying wolf as I like to call it. Buzzards have the best hp and ac of all the flying pets and screech gives them enough extra agro that I don't have agro the first time I crit. With screech being an ae debuff I can even multishot later into a fight without pulling agro from any of the mobs.

The flapping still annoys me but it's not so bad outside. For instance runs I pull out the boar or my wolf if I want the dmg buff.

I like Dishu, the deviate dreadwings, and the albino crockolisks.  Since I like to fish I always had food handy for them.

That's cool Stray, The Rake is a great DPS pet.


Just a note on rare pet catching:  While you're out in the wilds searchin' high and low, make a macro for the specific mob you're looing for.  Let's say Broken Tooth as an example.  So - /target Broken Tooth.  Make youself a little macro button, then put it in your hotbar and walk around spamming it.  That in combination with tracking and your own eyeballs helps a lot.

Rake is the fastest attack speed pet you can get until you hit 30s or 40s.  Unless that's been nerfed.  (I don't know, even though I should because my main in a 60 hunter.)

Here's a nifty hunter pet link.  (http://www.goodintentionsguild.info/hunters.html)

Some of the info is a tad dated but I've known Brash for awhile and she has a great site too: http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/ (http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/)

With the demise of the old spirit bond talent, I'm not so interested in fast attack speed pets. Slow is where its at, as it means bigger crits, and less loss of dps due to shields. For the ultimate beastmaster big bang pet, get a slow attack speed cat with prowl, and get the pet hunter trinket (guaranteed crit - and therefore frenzy on next attack) from the level 50 quest.

But I like the wolf howl - both the racial skill and the wolf's howl emote. And dark wolves like Snarler and the Vilebranch wolves look so cool. Shame worgs don't have the emote. Boar charge and its wide food variety are awesome at low level though. If you want a neat looking one that few people seem to tame, get a Rotting Agam'ar at level 28 from RFK.

Geez.  I still use my Nightsaber from Teladrassil for everything.  I've seen little need to swap him out, even back when "zomg you HAVE to tame Bangalash you noob!" was being spewed about daily.   I might pick-up a wolf just because they have a nice buff for instances, but it just feels wrong running around without the cat.

I had a flying pet for all of 20 mins.  Fucking a they're annoying.  My GM has specifically banned them from any instance groups he's in because he can't target shit with the flappity menaces around.

Flying pets are annoying to tanks.  When my friend playing the warrior decided he would only use the basic level one stance and that thunderclap was the only aggro power he ever needed to use, I decided I would use whatever pet I wanted.  If I'm going to end up being the tank every fight, what do I care about his opinion?

I hate flying pets too but they are way more annoying grouped and in instances than soloing outdoors. When your only alternative is to gain agro on the second or third shot of every fight like I do lately you start putting up with a bit of annoyance bacause meleeing everry mob you try to kill is both annoying as hell and expensive. I even went back to my giantstalker set both to save a bit of money on repairs and because, IMO, it's a far superior set for farming.

I'm sure glad I bought that 100g bank slot rather than vendoring my old gs when I got full ds. :)

 

Wow that war sounds like a moron. If he has the rage for a thunderclap he has the rage for 3 or 4 sunders which would give him a lot better agro than the tclap even in battle stance.

Yep.  I was able to pull aggro off him with melee attacks at times.

Oh, I remember when people tamed the bats from ZG when it first came out, back before the move and attack speed normalization.. the damn things were so big you litterally could not target anything else.

Yeah, I tried a buzzard for a little while.

Annoyed the hell out of me, and I was soloing.

Quickly dropped the flappy son of a bitch.

I do love my bear though.  I've always loved bears as pets.  They do desperately need a special skill though.

Blizzard really needs to work at getting us more special abilities for different pets.

And more pet skins.  It is so depressing to realize that with some of my pets, people can't tell what level I decided to get it or anything.

We need more uniqueness, at LEAST in appearance.

Quandary:  What do I name my bear?  After all that work, I want him to be special.  Open to suggestions.

Bears I've seen are the standard stuff - Rug, Snug, Blue, and simply named Bear. Also, meatshield and derivations thereof.

Yogi

Booboo

Baloo

Ursula

Bryant

ooh ooh, I know, you could name Tim after the dumbass who got eaten by a grizzly.  (See movie, Grizzly Man).

I like this new thread title. Props to whoever changed it.

Thanks.

Ben for a bear.


My tiger has been Hobbes from the start.

Gargresh and Hobbes.  An Orc Adventure.

I named the Rake "Kilrath". Geeky Wing Commander reference.

Looking for a good bear atm.

Well the "Young Forest Bear" (level 8-9) in Elwynn Forest is reported by TKA Something's website as having a super slow 2.5 attack speed.  The slowest pet in the game is commonly thought to be Ursius the big bad white bear, who happens to be a level 56 elite.  So, I dunno.  :wink:

Since the pet normalization many folks are looking at slow attack speed pets for bigger crits. (Especially cats coming out of Prowl, ala Jaguero Stalkers.)  So maybe the little noobler zone bear is something to think about.  I have always resisted taming a bear because they are so blah, but since we are just PvE'ing and having a jolly old time I might give up the white flapper to try one out.  I've never, ever actually tamed a bear for a pet.

I'm gonna strip naked and run into alliance territory for a bear. Won't matter anyways, once I need to tame it.

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Well, I went to Elwynn and tamed a Young Forest Bear.  :-)

He gets bigger, right?

Also, what's the best way to level him up? I'm 15, he's 8.

Pets actually do get bigger as they level up, it's pretty cool. If only players did too. Pets gain XP for killing stuff that's cons for them, so go kill lvl 8-10 mobs.

Does that mean he is a stuffed tiger to the rest of the world?   8-)

My orc hunter (Skarlet) has a rotting Agam'gar called 'PChan' and a black widow called 'Charlotte'

I have no shame.

Actually that's not quite true. Pets only get experience for mobs that give exp to the hunter. They are also capped at 414 exp per kill. So kill lots of low greens and dont hope for a lot of help from your pet until he gets close to your level.

My deviate dreadfang was Coriolis and my crocolisk begged to be named Bindy.

My Hunter has one of the black widow spiders named Snuggles.

A hunter in our guild's got a crab named scuttles.

They changed that a few patches ago because it was too hard to level lowbie pets.

Pets grow 1% in size each time they level.  Or so I read.  Either way it is verifiably true that a pet levelled from say 40 to 60 is bigger than it was when you tamed it.  There are comparision pics on the net somewhere.

Yeah, it's so annoying to tame a new pet and have to watch it shrink down to "oh how cute" size.

Also, y'all suck at bear names.

Only until I press 'Bestial Wrath'.

(http://www.geocities.com/sirdizz/ch/a/apounce.gif)

They changed it to what I discribed, unfortunately. Your pet wont get exp on mobs grey to you even if they'd con red to your pet still. The only thing they changed was the experience scaling which was based on your level. Prior to the change, not only did you have to kill mobs that gave you exp, but the pet got reduced exp on low to you greens. At least now you can kill extremely easy mobs and the pet will get full (capped at 414 exp) experience. I've posted about the cap a few times on the bug board but haven't got a responce if it is intended or left over from the prior experience code.

I leveled a rotting agramar up under the old method and it was hell. I don't think the new way is much better though.

Ah, i had misunderstood the patch notes:

I got to do my first ZG run the other day with an alliance between my guild and another smaller casual guild.

ZG was actually really fun. We downed the Bat, Snake, Spider, and Tiger bosses, and excepting the Spider, all on the very first try. Not bad considering only 4 or so people on the run had actually done ZG before. The Spider we wiped a few times on thanks to people backing up too far during the fight and aggroing a group of enemies we skipped.

re hunter pets - I've been playing with one of those new fangled undead pigs from EPL for a little while now.  The little charge stun thing is nice.  LittlePiggy.  I do hate the way the thing looks though.  I wish it looked like the pig from Blasted, those are pretty in a hog kind of way.

Still have my King Bang tiger that I levelled up with from whenever I got it, but now that I could get another with the same look, I can dump that one, just haven't yet due to.. erm, attachment (Magdalen).

I have a wolf pet too, a pretty red one, forgot where I got her.  She's ok, got for the group buff thingie.  Nothing special, named her after my dog (Maybellene).

No empty slots.  If I want to learn something I need to abandon someone.

Yeah, I really wish they would give us more slots for pets.

But then, we've been asking for that for forever. :(

I distinctly remember there being 4 slots in beta

Okay, fucksticks, because this bullshit will never end until someone makes an arbitrary, non-negotiable decision....

Emerald Dream, Horde.  Send tells to Mustaffa.  Guild will be named The Burning Region.

Join me there or not, your decision.

Ah, so my character, Itchyrash, could find a home in your Burning Region.  Yay.  Well, yay if I ever get around to playing that game again.   After we settle from the move next week, I should have all the time in the world to do anything I like again.  I'll play everwhere.  Itchyrash will spread from server to server.   :-)

Is Emerald Dream one of those retarded PVP or RP/PVP servers?

RP/PVP

Okay then, thanks but no thanks.

This is interesting....


I've got a Warrior and Rogue on ED...But have recently discovered Hunters on a PvE server...

If others decide to move (again), I'll try to reroll. Otherwise, I'll stick with Aerie Peak.

It is retarded.

Myself and a couple other fucksticks have been playing on Aerie Peak as the Incredible Hunter Trio.  It's cliche, o.0, and sorta easy mode, but we have been having a pretty good time just cruising along at our own pace(s) and taking up complimentary craft professions, etc.  I don't want to cockblock Gulp but if anyone wants to come join us for carebear revelry, we welcome yeee.

Yea I have a 45 Hunter on ED, but the server is so damn crowded, and everyone and their brother is graped out in epics.  I miss being on a PvP server, but the way ED has evolved (like any established server) isn't overly condusive to "fun" in PvP.

Hopped on to Aerie Peak.

Qaeljin, Troll Hunter Extraordinaire.

I like the danger.  And I don't particularly like the endgame all that much.  Pve servers just bore me.

Phyllis my horde priest is still 16 and still on ED.

ED is a shitty shitty server though.  So crowded.  Although that could be good for battleground action.  But also there will be a lot of twinks.

A lower population server might be better.

More random babble:

I was in Feralas today on my now 47 shadow priest.  The goblin by the wharf gives out two quests.  One of them is to return some essence/dust off a shrunken giant - he gives you a shrinker so you can fight the striders (it not only shrinks them but turns them nonelite).  The other quest is to get shards from the water elemental mobs to refuel the shrinker.

So I was fighting along the coast there.  Nice spot, nobody around, quiet and relaxing.  I spy a giant walking next to the water.  He bends over, and a big green bubble comes out of his behind.  He reaches up and pops it.

Moments like this is why I  :heart: the WoW.

Target a wolf to attack.  Because they have that new 'see your targets target' I see that it's chasing an ickle squirrel around and around.

What's even more endearing is it ignores my pet chewing on it and me blasting it, until it catches and eats the damn squirrel.

Funny.

So.....

I took a break for a week or so (sub ran out), and this thread dies along with it. Who's still on AP or ED (or wherever else?)?

I'm still playing on AP, I just took a couple days off work and left town for the 4th.  I literally got home an hour ago.  I figured I could use the rest XP too.

So, couple things:

- Xerapis, AKA Qaeljin in game, finally got a guild invite when I caught him online one night.  He's a troll Hunter and last I checked a few days ago was level 10.  He plays sporadically and at a nice mellow pace, errr so it seems to me.

- I rolled a UD Priest named Greygore,  just to mess with sometimes for rest XP reasons, and possible future healing needs.  And I didn't want to out level every one and cause...a schism!!!1!1

- Geiss is level 22.

I'll be on more this week.

I'm playing Titan Quest at present, and I'll be homeless as of tomorrow, so I'll probably not be around for a while.