Title: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: MrHat on November 07, 2005, 06:51:57 PM
I'm in a rut.
WoW got boring.
Civ4 while unbelievably fun, can only be taken in small doses (single sessions a week almost).
DoD, CS have no hold over me anymore.
XBox sucks.
XBox 360 sucks (and it's way bigger than the pictures make it look; still bigger than the original PS2).
BF2 still fun?
WoW got boring.
Civ4 while unbelievably fun, can only be taken in small doses (single sessions a week almost).
DoD, CS have no hold over me anymore.
XBox sucks.
XBox 360 sucks (and it's way bigger than the pictures make it look; still bigger than the original PS2).
BF2 still fun?
Title: Re: This game still fun?
Post by: schild on November 07, 2005, 09:51:21 PM
Xbox 360 ain't that big. Well, it's not much bigger than the PS3 - which is thicker at the middle. And it doesn't have godforsaken boomerangs as controllers.
My advice? Buy a PS2, n00b.
My advice? Buy a PS2, n00b.
Title: Re: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on November 08, 2005, 03:52:44 AM
Still fun, yeah. I'm pretty casual when it comes to shooters in the first place, but I play this more than others.
Whether or not you have decent players on a server is still the biggest factor of "fun" more than anything else, I guess.
I sold my new slim PS2 to a friend. He gave me the paying price AND his old PS2....The big motherfucking first edition one....with a blue stand!
Finally got a chance to see the 360. It isn't any smaller than that clunky PS2. Mucho ugly too. I doubt I'll ever get one --- It took me forever to get the first Xbox, and the only reason I bought that was because it was cheap and used. Also, it gave me only a handful of great exclusive games, and all of those except one remain exclusive. I don't even expect that for the 360.
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I'm sure the time for my fun in BF2 will run out soon though....What with the new expansion coming out and all (I don't have any plans to buy it). Sooner or later, trying to find servers without the expansion features will be too time consuming to bother with.
Whether or not you have decent players on a server is still the biggest factor of "fun" more than anything else, I guess.
I sold my new slim PS2 to a friend. He gave me the paying price AND his old PS2....The big motherfucking first edition one....with a blue stand!
Finally got a chance to see the 360. It isn't any smaller than that clunky PS2. Mucho ugly too. I doubt I'll ever get one --- It took me forever to get the first Xbox, and the only reason I bought that was because it was cheap and used. Also, it gave me only a handful of great exclusive games, and all of those except one remain exclusive. I don't even expect that for the 360.
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I'm sure the time for my fun in BF2 will run out soon though....What with the new expansion coming out and all (I don't have any plans to buy it). Sooner or later, trying to find servers without the expansion features will be too time consuming to bother with.
Title: Re: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on November 08, 2005, 09:38:16 AM
My girl is pushing me to play more BF2. I have nightmares of smacktards. I think this was easily one of the best games ever made utterly ruined by the fucking morons playing it. Not all by a longshot, but it doesn't take many to fuck up the entire experience.
Title: Re: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on November 08, 2005, 11:40:46 AM
You can avoid the most fucktardery by playing on clan servers instead of the generic public servers. Find one with admins on most or all of the time, and who kick the biggest retards liberally.
As for the original question, the game is still really fun. I haven't played as much recently (PC issues, then Civ IV and D&D alpha), but I still blow off some steam shooting people in the face a couple of times a week.
As for the original question, the game is still really fun. I haven't played as much recently (PC issues, then Civ IV and D&D alpha), but I still blow off some steam shooting people in the face a couple of times a week.
Title: Re: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on November 08, 2005, 04:17:12 PM
It'd be cool if they had an 'invite-only' feature that allows players to invite their friends into a private server(after, of course, some introductory period where the player has to show he's not a dumbass and isn't banned/voted off the server). That way you could have private servers that won't just die out when the admin is on vacation.
Title: Re: This game still fun?
Post by: littledude on November 08, 2005, 07:20:30 PM
I still am having fun blowing stuff up in BF2 even on public servers. Have found a server in Chicago that is decent ping and usually just city maps (no fucking jets!!! yah!!!). Hopefully when BF2's expansion comes out, they will add shoulder fired SAM's...that and maybe the avenger humvee platform (humvee with 8 stinger missles and 50 cal) and vulcan mounted on a m113. Of course the could add the A-10 and AC-130...but man that would be nuts if you were not a US Marine. Another cool idea, add a British Expeditionary Force, those bloody brits could allways drink and act nutty when I went drinking with 'em in Germany/Netherlands :-D
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on July 18, 2006, 11:51:26 AM
Just had to add a story from last night.
WayAbvPar and I are playing on a server and a clan is starting to steamroll so we log and find a more "tardy" one.
We're off doing our own things getting kills, I die and spawn on him as an engineer.
He's up in a crane, rather then jump down I decide to see how the engineer SMG is for sniping. Four kills later I decide it's ok. I whip out the pistol and get two more then we go down and capture the flag.
But the most priceless moment of the night was when I chased a tank and put a mine behind it. Then put one in front of it. The driver jumps out and starts to gun me down, I jump into the tank and run him over.
Then I got to laugh at him shooting the TV missile with the chopper. (The main gun isn't quite as funny - more sad.)
Course he got to laugh at me for hitting things I shouldn't then flying like a pro up pipes and through tunnels.
I think my favorite quote from the night however was:
me: DID YOU SEE THAT!!!!
him: No my eyes are still closed in fear.
WayAbvPar and I are playing on a server and a clan is starting to steamroll so we log and find a more "tardy" one.
We're off doing our own things getting kills, I die and spawn on him as an engineer.
He's up in a crane, rather then jump down I decide to see how the engineer SMG is for sniping. Four kills later I decide it's ok. I whip out the pistol and get two more then we go down and capture the flag.
But the most priceless moment of the night was when I chased a tank and put a mine behind it. Then put one in front of it. The driver jumps out and starts to gun me down, I jump into the tank and run him over.
Then I got to laugh at him shooting the TV missile with the chopper. (The main gun isn't quite as funny - more sad.)
Course he got to laugh at me for hitting things I shouldn't then flying like a pro up pipes and through tunnels.
I think my favorite quote from the night however was:
me: DID YOU SEE THAT!!!!
him: No my eyes are still closed in fear.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 19, 2006, 11:25:31 AM
Yeah, flying with Fur is all kinds of scary. You will get up close and personal looks at mountains, buildings, telephone poles, and all sorts of other solid objects. He also likes to fly with the nose down far enough that the gunner can't look forward with the TV guided missiles, and then blame the gunner when he doesn't hit the target. OTOH, it is a hell of a lot of fun, and you will giggle like a school girl :-D
He also forgot to mention- when we were on the crane sniping, a friendly arty strike hit below us. An enemy body blew up to almost eye level on the crane. Most amusing.
He also forgot to mention- when we were on the crane sniping, a friendly arty strike hit below us. An enemy body blew up to almost eye level on the crane. Most amusing.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on July 24, 2006, 08:42:37 AM
Finally stalled out a bit with Oblivion and loaded up some BF2 over the weekend. I'm a bit rusty, but I did improve my grenade launcher accuracy from 61% to 62%. Found a decent ping server (SFS clan's, about 70ms) with some team play going on. Mostly kept my kills over my deaths with decent points, so not entirely over the hill...was the best assault kit on the server for a few rounds.
Did they nerf reloading time on the grenade launcher? Still my favorite weapon (I never get tired of compliments on my long range, off-the-cuff nade kills, made one about 100 yards last night), but it seemed damned slow. The close-range bounce is odd to get used to, as well. I actually ended up using the assault rifle more often.
And a few sweet, sweet knife kills.
Did they nerf reloading time on the grenade launcher? Still my favorite weapon (I never get tired of compliments on my long range, off-the-cuff nade kills, made one about 100 yards last night), but it seemed damned slow. The close-range bounce is odd to get used to, as well. I actually ended up using the assault rifle more often.
And a few sweet, sweet knife kills.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on July 24, 2006, 12:30:16 PM
I got 2 sweet knife kills a couple nights ago. Two guys were rocket-sniping and I killed the first one then realized there was a 2nd one there and got him too.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 24, 2006, 12:49:52 PM
Rocket snipers annoy me almost as much as noob tubers. Luckily both are easy to kill if you see them coming, since they don't adapt very well to changing circumstances.
I am FINALLY getting better and 1v1 CQBs. I have learned to aim for the top of the torso/head area, which has led to a much higher K/D ratio when coming around a corner to find someone 10 feet away.
I am FINALLY getting better and 1v1 CQBs. I have learned to aim for the top of the torso/head area, which has led to a much higher K/D ratio when coming around a corner to find someone 10 feet away.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on July 24, 2006, 12:51:30 PM
I single-handedly took out five guy with my grenade launcher and rifle, then a guy jumped out in front of me and I almost ran him over. Remembering the grenade bounce rule, I whipped out the knife and stuck him in the face. Moments like that aren't common, but it sure brought back the old days when I was in high BF1942 form and could layeth the smacketh on pubs with abandon. Good times.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on July 24, 2006, 07:23:34 PM
I had a good map a few nights ago - playing Strike at Karkand as a MEC. Enemy had the back base so I would grab a truck at any spawn that had one open and drive up to the US side gas station and grab a free tank or APC. Every the commander was sitting in the same place and I would get a free kill.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: rk47 on August 02, 2006, 11:29:36 AM
I've seen a hack work recently on ranked server. This guy just spammed vehicle drops on a flag. It lags like crazy, then it starts blowing up...even tanks won't survive them ...Uploaded it
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Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 02, 2006, 12:06:35 PM
They seriously need to unfuck vehicle drops. Vehicles landing on arty and destroying it is just fucking clownshoes, and any commander who uses it as a strategy is a douchebag of the highest order.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: edlavallee on August 02, 2006, 12:18:01 PM
Yeah, that and the stupid fucking hopping bullshit. Seriously they need to tie jumping to the fatigue meter.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 02, 2006, 12:52:20 PM
Agreed on the hopping. I wouldn't know about the vehicle drops, I'm still playing vanilla BF2.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: NiX on August 02, 2006, 05:28:59 PM
Do you guys still hop on TeamSpeak when you play? I remember you used to be on all the time playing. I have BF2 laying around, feel like reinstalling it. That or buying The Ship.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: schild on August 02, 2006, 05:32:37 PM
I was thinking about getting The Ship as well.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on August 03, 2006, 06:49:26 PM
I've been on a server with the vehicle-drop hack too. Man, it was the first time I saw it, and I just sat there, amazed. And then I got killed. But I have been enjoying myself with it. I am still clueless about all thing hacked on BF2. I am still tyring to get better at close-quarters combat. Basically I suck at it unless I am Medic and never equip the gun, heh. I get waaaay more points that way too. I've always been a mid to long range support guy.
I too get annoyed with the hopping, and friggin jets. I really really wish they would bump up the damage done by the anti-aircraft emplacements so if you hit, it will kill the friggin thing. Jets are here and gone so fast that its hard to get off a shot, and impossible when they pop flares and the targetting ALWAYS follows the flares. They should double the damage on the AA guns. Jets suck and make the game un-fun for some people.
I too get annoyed with the hopping, and friggin jets. I really really wish they would bump up the damage done by the anti-aircraft emplacements so if you hit, it will kill the friggin thing. Jets are here and gone so fast that its hard to get off a shot, and impossible when they pop flares and the targetting ALWAYS follows the flares. They should double the damage on the AA guns. Jets suck and make the game un-fun for some people.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 04, 2006, 07:18:01 AM
As Wayabvpar will tell you I'm a mediocre pilot, luckily 80% of people suck more. I get owned whenever I've got someone on my 6. That being said, jets are the easiest way in the game to get kills. You look for a little box on the ground then drop bombs. Then smile as your get 3-4 kills. So even dying to a better pilot every 40 seconds, You still get a good kill ratio.
Jets are far too overpowered. Add in the fact that the AA stations show up as the little square when people are in them, only other jets really have a chance of taking you down.
My solution is not to play on servers with really good pilots.
Jets are far too overpowered. Add in the fact that the AA stations show up as the little square when people are in them, only other jets really have a chance of taking you down.
My solution is not to play on servers with really good pilots.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 04, 2006, 07:53:03 AM
I don't use vehicles much, mostly just buggies and hummers for transportation. I'm pretty good in a tank, but it seems like tanks are just big targets in BF2, I rarely last more than a few minutes because a jet goes over or a helo missile swarms me, or some guy pops me with a rocket. So I pretty much avoid armor.
But as a 99% assault player, jets don't really factor in much. I'm often under cover, and jets can't cap. The only threat I have seen from jets is when there are enough clan guys on teamspeak to have a combined arms force, and even then they tend to use an attack chopper instead.
But as a 99% assault player, jets don't really factor in much. I'm often under cover, and jets can't cap. The only threat I have seen from jets is when there are enough clan guys on teamspeak to have a combined arms force, and even then they tend to use an attack chopper instead.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 04, 2006, 09:59:50 AM
Yeah, they need to tone down the jet's targeting systems; at least make the SAM stations invisible until someone is actually locking you. It would be nice if they had either a shoulder-fired SAM or a way to randomize the SAM sites on a map. As it stands now, an experienced pilot knows precisely where each one is, and can come storming out of the deep blue at top speed, drops some bombs/fire missiles, and kill the SAM site before the operator can even get a lock. If the SAM operator is good, he will know what direction the jet is coming from and MAYBE be able to get off a couple of missiles as he dies for a simo kill, but that is rare.
I was playing on a server last night that would BAN anyone who dropped vehicles on arty (Cartillery). I wish every server would do that.
I was playing on a server last night that would BAN anyone who dropped vehicles on arty (Cartillery). I wish every server would do that.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 04, 2006, 11:33:33 AM
Well, to be fair, static Flak Cannon emplacements in BF1942 gave an edge to pilots, even without the lockon in the new game. I generally knew where all the guns were on any given map (I was a pilot with my clan) and knew the best blind approach as well as several flight lanes that avoided them altogether. Dropping in from the ceiling at an angle they couldn't hit was always the best, though I was pretty good at lobbing bombs in at an angle and hitting the deck, too.
I miss the slower flight speeds of 1942, and my goddamned gamepad that I could fly with. This new one is great for everything but flying :(
I miss the slower flight speeds of 1942, and my goddamned gamepad that I could fly with. This new one is great for everything but flying :(
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: edlavallee on August 04, 2006, 11:39:43 AM
IMO, the Desert Combat mod had the best flying physics of any game I have played. Enough difference between the planes to be interesting and arcade-y enough to be fun. I have been seriously thinking about reinstalling that game and seeing if there are any good servers left out there.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 04, 2006, 03:02:14 PM
I'm a bit amazed they have not released an "Air Power" expansion for BF2. Seems like it would be fairly natural. Large map, lots of planes, and for humor sake. 2 uncapable bases. With a ton of AA in each.
Get all the airtards to play that one so I can go back to baseraping in a tank.
Get all the airtards to play that one so I can go back to baseraping in a tank.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 04, 2006, 04:33:54 PM
They wouldn't play it though- they like being able to assrape all the poor groundpounding fuckers like us to engorge their peens and rack up points.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: lamaros on August 07, 2006, 08:01:31 AM
I've played way too much BF2 in the last week, but I can't help myself. I love a good game on the 16 player maps. I'm surprised more people aren't playing it really, it kicks the shit out of CS: S. Unless you go play on a 64 player server... 64 player maps give vehicles (choppers and planes included) too much power.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 07, 2006, 09:56:44 AM
I only play on 64-player servers. I like the whole bit about having to stay in cover and hide from vehicles, adds a bit of realism. On a couple maps it makes it real tough, like Dragon Valley (the server I play on has a 4 or 5 map rotation, but always seems to be on Dragon :)). Since Dragon is such a PITA, I just lead a squad and back-capture with buggies/hmmv or helodrop on top of the temple and blast out defenders while my squad caps.
Damn, I love this game. Also seems very few of the tards are playing the unaugmented original client, I've had some fairly high quality gameplay compared to the months after release. Maybe when 2142 comes out I'll but Special Forces and the downloads :)
Damn, I love this game. Also seems very few of the tards are playing the unaugmented original client, I've had some fairly high quality gameplay compared to the months after release. Maybe when 2142 comes out I'll but Special Forces and the downloads :)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 07, 2006, 10:22:29 AM
IMHO Special Forces sucks ass. The other two mini-expansions (at $10 per) are worth it though.
Dragon Valley can be really fun if you get a good matchup teamwise. It is pretty easily dominated if there is a wide disparity in player talent on the teams though. I love defending at the Woodshed as an engineer- lay mines around, hide in the garage from arty, and watch the points skyrocket. Having two TOW stations and a SAM station makes it a lot of fun too.
Even though I don't particularly like it, I seem to rack up the points on Kubra Dam. Had a 25 kill 5 death round last night. Considering the fact that I don't fly, that is a pretty decent K/D ratio. I have finally found a server that is competitive, but where I am still better individually than 80% of the player base. Good times!
Dragon Valley can be really fun if you get a good matchup teamwise. It is pretty easily dominated if there is a wide disparity in player talent on the teams though. I love defending at the Woodshed as an engineer- lay mines around, hide in the garage from arty, and watch the points skyrocket. Having two TOW stations and a SAM station makes it a lot of fun too.
Even though I don't particularly like it, I seem to rack up the points on Kubra Dam. Had a 25 kill 5 death round last night. Considering the fact that I don't fly, that is a pretty decent K/D ratio. I have finally found a server that is competitive, but where I am still better individually than 80% of the player base. Good times!
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 07, 2006, 12:47:47 PM
I haven't even been on the Dam since I started playing again a month ago! I barely know that map. I barely know any of the maps, I love the size and little touches everywhere on them.
I play 99% assault, so the woodshed is usually someplace I get stuck if I don't have a vehicle :) I've capped it many times and then hid out while vehicles show up to recap, so it is fun in a way. It's funny, but I really approach BF2 as an rpg in a lot of ways. I stick to the same class and try to solve problems with being the totally wrong class for that place and time, just like some poor grunt in the field might have to.
I was considering wiping my hd and reinstalling XP (see $1500 pc thread for reason), and it hit me: I signed up for BF2 with a dummy email I've forgotten, a password I've forgotten, and a name I like (gruntzilla). Bah! I've been doing ok, stat-wise, but I don't really play for stats or points, as I said, I just kind of rp in the middle of it all. I have taken to leading squads, though, since I often present a good spawn point. I still pretty much suck, never blew off the rust I gained after splitting from the BF1942 clan I was in where I was pretty good.
I play 99% assault, so the woodshed is usually someplace I get stuck if I don't have a vehicle :) I've capped it many times and then hid out while vehicles show up to recap, so it is fun in a way. It's funny, but I really approach BF2 as an rpg in a lot of ways. I stick to the same class and try to solve problems with being the totally wrong class for that place and time, just like some poor grunt in the field might have to.
I was considering wiping my hd and reinstalling XP (see $1500 pc thread for reason), and it hit me: I signed up for BF2 with a dummy email I've forgotten, a password I've forgotten, and a name I like (gruntzilla). Bah! I've been doing ok, stat-wise, but I don't really play for stats or points, as I said, I just kind of rp in the middle of it all. I have taken to leading squads, though, since I often present a good spawn point. I still pretty much suck, never blew off the rust I gained after splitting from the BF1942 clan I was in where I was pretty good.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: lamaros on August 07, 2006, 07:57:00 PM
Dragon Valley is a great map for snipers, and that's mostly what I've been playing recently so I love it.
I find that the 16 player maps are less hetic than the others, and because I'm a player who does best with strategic thinking rather than out and out twitch I get more enjoyment from them. Unless you play with a half decent squad the bigger maps can be a touch annoying for that kind of play style.
Some maps are just so much better in the 16 player version. Kubra Dam is the number one example in my mind. As a 32 or 64 player map it's one of the worst, but the 16 player version is great.
I find that the 16 player maps are less hetic than the others, and because I'm a player who does best with strategic thinking rather than out and out twitch I get more enjoyment from them. Unless you play with a half decent squad the bigger maps can be a touch annoying for that kind of play style.
Some maps are just so much better in the 16 player version. Kubra Dam is the number one example in my mind. As a 32 or 64 player map it's one of the worst, but the 16 player version is great.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: edlavallee on August 08, 2006, 04:28:39 AM
What servers you guys play on? I would like to get back into playing a bit more often, but I hate the crapshoot of trying to find a decent server.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Arrrgh on August 08, 2006, 06:19:46 AM
I tired playing BF2 with my MMO guild mates and while widely scattered people can play MMOs happily together it doesn't work nearly as well when you're playing an FPS and everyone is looking for the lowest possible ping server.
Road Rage is a great map btw, if anyone is still on the fence about Armored Fury.
Road Rage is a great map btw, if anyone is still on the fence about Armored Fury.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 08, 2006, 07:51:24 AM
Zet, Way and I played for a couple hours last night, was a blast was amazing how much more powerful/effective we were with assigned classes. I played assault or anti-tank, Way was support and Zet played medic. Was nice to have someone around to revive me non-stop :)
Third person made flag captures happen so much faster. Our side totally sucked, we were the top three scorers on our side once we started working together and providing covering fire and such. I keep thinking how fun it would be to play with a 5 or 6 man F13 group and having a couple medics, AT, support, SF and an engineer. (I'd forgotten how overpowered the medic gun was when Zet died and I grabbed his kit to revive him).
Any interest in starting a weekly/nightly F13 group?
Third person made flag captures happen so much faster. Our side totally sucked, we were the top three scorers on our side once we started working together and providing covering fire and such. I keep thinking how fun it would be to play with a 5 or 6 man F13 group and having a couple medics, AT, support, SF and an engineer. (I'd forgotten how overpowered the medic gun was when Zet died and I grabbed his kit to revive him).
Any interest in starting a weekly/nightly F13 group?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 08, 2006, 08:03:43 AM
I'll play with you guys, but I don't have a mic nor any matching software :P I also don't play very regular times, usually a half hour after work and a half hour before bed.
Saw a funny trick last night. I was chasing a guy who had just swam across the river on Dragon, I missed with my first grenade round (only a 39% chance of missing, yo!). He was a medic and threw a healing pack down in front of himself. But I don't use no sissy assault rifle, the next grenade sent him ass over eyes...and I had a nice little medic pack to heal me, heh.
I've been playing almost exclusively on Salty Frog Squad's server. 64 player, always full, pings around 60-80ms, decent admins and rules (no arty on, or armor in, uncaps).
Saw a funny trick last night. I was chasing a guy who had just swam across the river on Dragon, I missed with my first grenade round (only a 39% chance of missing, yo!). He was a medic and threw a healing pack down in front of himself. But I don't use no sissy assault rifle, the next grenade sent him ass over eyes...and I had a nice little medic pack to heal me, heh.
I've been playing almost exclusively on Salty Frog Squad's server. 64 player, always full, pings around 60-80ms, decent admins and rules (no arty on, or armor in, uncaps).
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 08, 2006, 08:10:05 AM
I know Way and Zet/Pharce usually load up X-fire just because it makes finding the map people are playing on a lot easier. (I'll load it up to find Way when he mumbles on TS sometimes too).
Generally we just use the F-13 TS server. Dunno what the GF/Wife factor is for you, I have to use headphones or the wife cries.
Generally we just use the F-13 TS server. Dunno what the GF/Wife factor is for you, I have to use headphones or the wife cries.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: edlavallee on August 08, 2006, 08:15:06 AM
Any interest in starting a weekly/nightly F13 group?
I don't think I could do a nightly or scheduled thing, but I would like to hang with you all when I do play... I agree that teamwork really makes this game shine.
I hate xfire, so I don't know how to find y'all.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 08, 2006, 08:57:07 AM
Pop onto the F13 TS server and we'll let ya know where we are if we are on.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 08, 2006, 09:33:42 AM
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Dunno what the GF/Wife factor is for you, I have to use headphones or the wife cries.
Heh. Luckily, she likes to watch me play BF2. Because it tends to dominate the room when I'm playing... She is kind of a jinx on me when I play, though. I can't get focused enough and die aimlessly alot. Not sure how she'll react to TS, it does take some adjustment. I used to love it playing with the clan, we only had to kick one kid for being immature (he wouldn't stop saying "WHEEEEEE" or giggling when he got kills...and he left voice activation on :()Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 08, 2006, 10:37:39 AM
There are about 5 different servers I usually play on (mostly West Coast based). I always have Xfire running, so tracking me down should be simple enough. Or you can log into the F13 TeamSpeak server and ask- I generally log in to TS before I play BF2.
Furiously, Zetleft and I had a good squad going last night. Unfortunately the rest of our team was absolutely fucking useless, and we lost a bunch of games in a row. Our individual scores (especially Zet's) were pretty good though. It was a lot of fun.
Furiously, Zetleft and I had a good squad going last night. Unfortunately the rest of our team was absolutely fucking useless, and we lost a bunch of games in a row. Our individual scores (especially Zet's) were pretty good though. It was a lot of fun.
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Post by: Sky on August 08, 2006, 11:35:06 AM
East Coast ftl.
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Post by: Merusk on August 08, 2006, 03:00:07 PM
I feel yer pain, Sky. I'm on x-fire and named Merusk in-game if anyone tracks me down. Ya'll talking about it got me starting again.
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Post by: edlavallee on August 08, 2006, 03:37:05 PM
just reloaded xfire. zipperkgb is me (I think)... or Zipper Zee... There can't be too many zippers out there unless you are at a Rainbow Coalition concert.
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Post by: Furiously on August 10, 2006, 11:35:39 AM
Ack - sorry I ditched the server after you joined Zipper.
Finally got my 19 air kills medal last night. It was sick when the other side only had one base left and in I would come... 4 or 5 kills in one bomb run.
Started reading about BF2142. If what they say in their interviews is right, it could be a better version of BF2. Or what planetside should have/still could be.
Finally got my 19 air kills medal last night. It was sick when the other side only had one base left and in I would come... 4 or 5 kills in one bomb run.
Started reading about BF2142. If what they say in their interviews is right, it could be a better version of BF2. Or what planetside should have/still could be.
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Post by: edlavallee on August 10, 2006, 11:40:45 AM
Not a problem. I've been trying to get back into the swing of things in BF2 but that server was a bit large and chaotic. I typically like a smaller population so its not so much of the fragcrushfest. I have many miles to go before I would say I am even slightly skilled with BF2. It is kinda fun tho.
I saw something on Fileplanet yesterday about a free multiplayer BF2142 beta for suscribers? I didn't click on it because I was in a hurry.
I saw something on Fileplanet yesterday about a free multiplayer BF2142 beta for suscribers? I didn't click on it because I was in a hurry.
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Post by: WayAbvPar on August 10, 2006, 12:13:06 PM
Find us online and we can help ya get up to speed, ed. We had a good 4 man squad going last night for a bit with Fur, Zet, my brother and I. 3 medics, a support guy, and an assault guy. If only Furiously and I hadn't kept TKing Zet...
I will admit most of them were my fault, but the funniest one was on Dragon Valley at the Woodyard- I was manning one of the stationary anti-tank launchers (HJ-8 or TOW), and touched off a shot at an oncoming APC at the EXACT same time that Zetleft chose to run across my vision. I imagine getting hit with a wire-guided missile from a range of 2 feet will really but a cramp in your style. :-D
I will admit most of them were my fault, but the funniest one was on Dragon Valley at the Woodyard- I was manning one of the stationary anti-tank launchers (HJ-8 or TOW), and touched off a shot at an oncoming APC at the EXACT same time that Zetleft chose to run across my vision. I imagine getting hit with a wire-guided missile from a range of 2 feet will really but a cramp in your style. :-D
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Post by: edlavallee on August 10, 2006, 12:15:46 PM
I have added merusk and furiously to my Xfire list. Let me know who you are and I will look y'all up.
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Post by: WayAbvPar on August 10, 2006, 12:22:13 PM
I will give you 3 guesses as to my xfire handle, and the first two don't count :-P
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Post by: Miasma on August 10, 2006, 12:26:56 PM
I think BF2 was a really fun game, I actually found it too intense for my liking. I swear my heartrate jumps 20% just imagining those first three notes of music from the log in screen.
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Post by: edlavallee on August 10, 2006, 01:00:32 PM
Da da dun da dun dun!
Than you're only giving me one guess.. no fair!!
I will give you 3 guesses as to my xfire handle, and the first two don't count :-P
Than you're only giving me one guess.. no fair!!
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Post by: Zetleft on August 10, 2006, 02:24:03 PM
Find us online and we can help ya get up to speed, ed. We had a good 4 man squad going last night for a bit with Fur, Zet, my brother and I. 3 medics, a support guy, and an assault guy. If only Furiously and I hadn't kept TKing Zet...
I will admit most of them were my fault, but the funniest one was on Dragon Valley at the Woodyard- I was manning one of the stationary anti-tank launchers (HJ-8 or TOW), and touched off a shot at an oncoming APC at the EXACT same time that Zetleft chose to run across my vision. I imagine getting hit with a wire-guided missile from a range of 2 feet will really but a cramp in your style. :-D
I will admit most of them were my fault, but the funniest one was on Dragon Valley at the Woodyard- I was manning one of the stationary anti-tank launchers (HJ-8 or TOW), and touched off a shot at an oncoming APC at the EXACT same time that Zetleft chose to run across my vision. I imagine getting hit with a wire-guided missile from a range of 2 feet will really but a cramp in your style. :-D
A man simply can't mine the road in peace. Made quite a loud bang on my speakers though.
Been having a great time joining up with Fur and Way though, make quite a nice squad when we work together. But I do owe you guys a few tks now, and you'll never know when they will come :p
Oh and yeah my xfire name is Zetleft but in game my handle is Pharce.
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Post by: Merusk on August 10, 2006, 04:52:25 PM
Once again.. curse you all and your late-night Pacific playtimes. Quit yer jobs!
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Post by: Furiously on August 11, 2006, 12:31:35 AM
I might have mentioned it elsewhere, but I BF2142 has gone from a "meh" title to one of interest based on the developer's comments about what they did right and wrong with BF2.
Thought it was interesting how they were making the game have 4 classes. (I'd prefer an even more planetside approach)
A. Assault. This combines the medic and assault classes. (you have 1 medic pack that acts like a reverse dot when you throw it down)
B. Engineer. This combines the engineer and anti-tank classes.
C. Specialist. This combines the sniper and special forces classes. This one worries me a bit.
D. Support. You get to throw down ammo packs.
Supposed to have like 40 unlocks. So you get to specialize a bit more. One of them is a cloaking device (Which you cannot shot while it is on).
Looks like they have 3 weapon unlocks per class and 6-10 other items you can unlock.
By joining a squad you get all the tactical information about enemies the other members of your squad see. No more calling out "aircraft overhead" if it is in your vision, everyone knows where it is on the mini-map. Squad leader has to throw down a marker instead of being able to spawn on them.
You can drop turrets. They have crawler mines. I'm worried it might be a bit too fast paced for an old man like me, but we'll see. As was mentioned Fileplanet is having a beta later this month.
Thought it was interesting how they were making the game have 4 classes. (I'd prefer an even more planetside approach)
A. Assault. This combines the medic and assault classes. (you have 1 medic pack that acts like a reverse dot when you throw it down)
B. Engineer. This combines the engineer and anti-tank classes.
C. Specialist. This combines the sniper and special forces classes. This one worries me a bit.
D. Support. You get to throw down ammo packs.
Supposed to have like 40 unlocks. So you get to specialize a bit more. One of them is a cloaking device (Which you cannot shot while it is on).
Looks like they have 3 weapon unlocks per class and 6-10 other items you can unlock.
By joining a squad you get all the tactical information about enemies the other members of your squad see. No more calling out "aircraft overhead" if it is in your vision, everyone knows where it is on the mini-map. Squad leader has to throw down a marker instead of being able to spawn on them.
You can drop turrets. They have crawler mines. I'm worried it might be a bit too fast paced for an old man like me, but we'll see. As was mentioned Fileplanet is having a beta later this month.
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Post by: lamaros on August 11, 2006, 01:31:24 AM
Hello Specalist pwnage. I would play sniper always if it had C4, let alone a better close range gun.
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Post by: Furiously on August 11, 2006, 07:40:46 AM
Did I mention EMP grenades that shut vehicles down?
And yea - if you have a SMG and a sniper rifle as the specialist, 70% of the people will play that class. I can only hope they have no armor and die to a single shot.
I'd rather see support with anti-tank and special forces with engineer.
And yea - if you have a SMG and a sniper rifle as the specialist, 70% of the people will play that class. I can only hope they have no armor and die to a single shot.
I'd rather see support with anti-tank and special forces with engineer.
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Post by: Sky on August 11, 2006, 07:45:15 AM
Just give me my beloved thumper (grenade launcher). All the rest doesn't matter much.
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Post by: Furiously on August 11, 2006, 07:52:04 AM
Do you still find the newb tube effective against people? It's great for vehicles, but I have a hard time getting the 5 or 6 kill spams when people bunch up.
It's happened like 4 or 5 times to me lately that I will place a mine behind a vehicle and it will run over it like it wasn't there. I'm starting to wonder if there is a hack for mines.
It's happened like 4 or 5 times to me lately that I will place a mine behind a vehicle and it will run over it like it wasn't there. I'm starting to wonder if there is a hack for mines.
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Post by: lamaros on August 11, 2006, 07:58:51 AM
The genade launcher was way nerfed at some point, or at least it seems to me after I got back form my break. It also seems to go through vehicles.
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Post by: Merusk on August 11, 2006, 08:53:40 AM
It's happened like 4 or 5 times to me lately that I will place a mine behind a vehicle and it will run over it like it wasn't there. I'm starting to wonder if there is a hack for mines.
I had that happen last-night, too. Mined around a flag, enemy tank ran over it like it wasn't there. Dropped a mine in the path of an APC, same thing as it sped-up to run me down. Plus it seemed like tanks were respawning really damn fast. I'd find one that /would/ blow, and as soon as I was humping it down the road to the next flag, there he was again, same driver, same tank. (T72) less than 20 seconds later.
Could also be a latency thing, I suppose. Since I haven't bought any x-pacs there's only about 12 servers I can actually play on these days.
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Post by: lamaros on August 11, 2006, 08:57:00 AM
I beleive hte respawn time is set by the server.. though it might thave changed.
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Post by: Sky on August 11, 2006, 09:21:54 AM
I've been doing great with the grenade launcher. I know it has a reputation as a newbie weapon, but it's always been my preferred weapon as I like indirect fire weapons. I'm better with trajectories than direct aiming. I'm down to 59% accuracy from 62%, though. I don't think anyone has bunched up like that when I've been around, but I think I've killed three guys with one shot, and I know I've killed two at once a bunch of times. It's not real effective on vehicles, but it's good for a combined effort with a couple grunts tossing regular grenades in as well.
I hear you re:"vanilla" BF2. I haven't bought any expansions, I have about a dozen servers to choose from, with only two 64 player servers. SFS has a good server, but the other one is brutal. It's in Denmark and I ping about 180ms to it with the locals pinging 10-20ms. I don't even bother playing on it anymore because I'm 1:10 k:d over there. It's just not fun when you don't have a chance. SFS isn't bad, I can get 60-100ms.
I hear you re:"vanilla" BF2. I haven't bought any expansions, I have about a dozen servers to choose from, with only two 64 player servers. SFS has a good server, but the other one is brutal. It's in Denmark and I ping about 180ms to it with the locals pinging 10-20ms. I don't even bother playing on it anymore because I'm 1:10 k:d over there. It's just not fun when you don't have a chance. SFS isn't bad, I can get 60-100ms.
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Post by: Furiously on August 11, 2006, 10:29:04 AM
It used to be a great weapon, I loved it.
I was never that great of a FPS player, I don't have the reflexes to aim for the headshots before the other person kills me. I just spray in the general direction of the person's chest and hope my bullets hit. (Ok - I might not be quite that bad - but it's close.)
Just seems like the grenade launcher lost a lot of it's blast radius then they decided it should be an anti-jeep weapon.
I was never that great of a FPS player, I don't have the reflexes to aim for the headshots before the other person kills me. I just spray in the general direction of the person's chest and hope my bullets hit. (Ok - I might not be quite that bad - but it's close.)
Just seems like the grenade launcher lost a lot of it's blast radius then they decided it should be an anti-jeep weapon.
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Post by: WayAbvPar on August 11, 2006, 11:35:12 AM
Just train yourself to aim at high chest and up, and shoot in short bursts. Moving from side to side helps a bit too, as does dropping prone instantly. Once I got that stuff hardwired into my reactions, my kill/death ratio got A LOT better. I am a bit of a kamikaze, and was even worse in my misspent BF2 youth, so I am not even to a 1/1 K/D ratio overall yet. I held at about .87 for a LONG time. The past month or two I have worked it to .96 or .97 (haven't checked recently). I have about 10100 kills and 10400 deaths, so it is getting close :-D
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Post by: Miasma on August 11, 2006, 11:52:33 AM
I held at about .87 for a LONG time. The past month or two I have worked it to .96 or .97 (haven't checked recently). I have about 10100 kills and 10400 deaths, so it is getting close :-D
0.9747, that's practically 1:1. (http://bf2s.com/player/35064055/)I like the way that you and furiously are on eachother's enemies list :-o.
I think I'll buy another short-term fileplanet subscription when the beta for 2142 comes out, I did manage to shower off the unclean feeling last time.
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Post by: Sky on August 11, 2006, 12:06:08 PM
That was the training regimen for newbs in the 1942 clan: dive prone and AIM FOR DA HEAD. At least get in a crouch. The damage modelling and spread patterns were one thing that drew me to the franchise. Need more punishment for bunny-hoppers, but that's another rant.
As far as the blast radius on the grenade goes, it could be. I tend to target the ground at someone's feet and I'm pretty good at laying them in there. Like I said I hover just over 60% accuracy, I hit a bit more than I miss, and that includes wild shots a few hundred feet away, out of the side of helicopters, trying to flush people out, and lots of tactics where hitting someone is very low probability but still a good tactic.
My stats (http://bf2s.com/player/45064888/) suck. I have only made about 100 rank points since I started playing again, heh. I'm at .78 k:d (.82 with assault kit). I'm a bit off from those damned Danes.
As far as the blast radius on the grenade goes, it could be. I tend to target the ground at someone's feet and I'm pretty good at laying them in there. Like I said I hover just over 60% accuracy, I hit a bit more than I miss, and that includes wild shots a few hundred feet away, out of the side of helicopters, trying to flush people out, and lots of tactics where hitting someone is very low probability but still a good tactic.
My stats (http://bf2s.com/player/45064888/) suck. I have only made about 100 rank points since I started playing again, heh. I'm at .78 k:d (.82 with assault kit). I'm a bit off from those damned Danes.
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Post by: WayAbvPar on August 11, 2006, 12:13:14 PM
I held at about .87 for a LONG time. The past month or two I have worked it to .96 or .97 (haven't checked recently). I have about 10100 kills and 10400 deaths, so it is getting close :-D
0.9747, that's practically 1:1. (http://bf2s.com/player/35064055/)I like the way that you and furiously are on eachother's enemies list :-o.
I think I'll buy another short-term fileplanet subscription when the beta for 2142 comes out, I did manage to shower off the unclean feeling last time.
Heh- we were badge-whoring for knife and pistol kills (before discovering the joys of knife/pistol only servers!), and took turns ganking each other on some random server. Good times!
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Post by: Furiously on August 11, 2006, 12:48:13 PM
I don't really care for that stat as it is on a per map basis. That being said, there is likely no one I have killed more then Way. (Mostly when he is on my team). It's also become a bit of a tradition to shoot each other anytime we are waiting for the helicopter to spawn.
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Post by: edlavallee on August 11, 2006, 01:03:35 PM
My stats (http://bf2s.com/player/45064888/) suck. I have only made about 100 rank points since I started playing again, heh. I'm at .78 k:d (.82 with assault kit). I'm a bit off from those damned Danes.
Your stats suck? Shit, if you look up suck in the BF2 dictionary, you would see this --> SUCK (http://bf2s.com/player/43807939/). .55 k:d ratio proves that the only twich skills I have are usually autonomic.
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Post by: Nija on August 11, 2006, 02:08:38 PM
Have you guys seen this BF2 sandbox stuff?
http://sandbox.elxx.net/
(http://imagesocket.com/images/scr24bb.jpg) (http://imagesocket.com/view/scr24bb.jpg)
(http://imagesocket.com/images/scr3943.jpg) (http://imagesocket.com/view/scr3943.jpg)
http://sandbox.elxx.net/
(http://imagesocket.com/images/scr24bb.jpg) (http://imagesocket.com/view/scr24bb.jpg)
(http://imagesocket.com/images/scr3943.jpg) (http://imagesocket.com/view/scr3943.jpg)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on August 11, 2006, 06:15:26 PM
I hadn't seen this E3 2006 video for Battlefield 2142. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XExa2c17_eg) It shows a bunch of the units, kinda nice. I don't know how that titan thing will work out though, nobody likes to defend facilities.
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Post by: NiX on August 11, 2006, 10:14:58 PM
C'mon, who didn't like nade campers in Tribes? They were so fun to go after!
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Post by: lamaros on August 11, 2006, 10:48:04 PM
I don't know how that titan thing will work out though, nobody likes to defend facilities.
I do.
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Post by: Tale on August 12, 2006, 03:04:11 AM
Do you still find the newb tube effective against people?
The grenade launcher nerf added a "fuse" to the grenade, so it requires more timing and anticipation. If you can predict where someone will be in a couple of seconds, put the grenade there. In a confined space you can still drop one straight into the ground, let it bounce a bit and have your kills, but you have to somehow survive until it blows up. Often the fuse time is enough for the other person to kill you before you can switch to another weapon.
Launched grenades will go through vehicles if the fuse isn't up yet, so it's only useful against vehicles at a significant distance. I got an awesome kill the other day, standing on a hilltop watching a jeep approach, launched a grenade in a wide arc to where I thought it might meet the jeep on the road below, and scored a direct hit for 3 kills. Unfortunately nobody saw it and the vehicle occupants would not have known where it came from either.
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Post by: WayAbvPar on August 14, 2006, 09:48:05 AM
It is really a learned skilll- having good twitch reactions helps, but it really more about tactics and putting yourself into the right situations to succeed. The more you play and learn the maps, the strategies, and the normal player tendencies, the better your score will get. Nothing is sweeter than setting up an ambush or looping around behind some folks as they take the 'normal' route to a flag or some such.
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Post by: Furiously on August 14, 2006, 10:20:25 AM
I've been reading up on the hacks the game has lately, and the nice thing is even if someone has an aimbot and a the see-through world and the skins for which side and health meters, you can still knife them in the back.
There are some great videos out there of people using the hacks though.
There are some great videos out there of people using the hacks though.
Title: BF2
Post by: edlavallee on August 17, 2006, 10:29:14 AM
If you are gonna be around on BF2, I will play earlier...fire up TS when you get on.
BF2? I'm game! Gimme the TS IP and lemme know what time eastern...
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Post by: WayAbvPar on August 17, 2006, 10:42:09 AM
www.f13.net.8767
password: kekela
probably be on around 9 Eastern.
password: kekela
probably be on around 9 Eastern.
Title: BF2
Post by: Merusk on August 17, 2006, 11:15:55 AM
9 is a good time for me.. lets me put the kids to bed and catch Earl. Awesome.
Now I suppose I need to buy some x-packs or else play by myself again.
Now I suppose I need to buy some x-packs or else play by myself again.
Title: BF2
Post by: edlavallee on August 17, 2006, 11:30:11 AM
I gots 'em all, although I am not 'specially fond of Spec Forces and I have played all of... none... in the other 2 (just figured out how to align my IDs so I have the proper permissions).
Title: BF2
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 17, 2006, 11:33:38 AM
Special Forces blows. The other 2 mini-expansions are decent though.
Title: BF2
Post by: Merusk on August 17, 2006, 11:40:41 AM
Well, the problem is, blow or not if you're running a different version I can't play on the same servers. And - in lovely EA fashion - the patches for expansions means a different version.. so buy or play alone. That's why you saw Sky and I talking about a whole 12 servers we could actually select. It wasn't hyperbole, there's literally only 12 servers.
:-D
:-D
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Post by: WayAbvPar on August 17, 2006, 12:14:28 PM
Really? What version do you have? Latest is 1.3....
I thought that if the version was up to date, you could play, but would just get booted if a map came up in the rotation that you didn't have.
I thought that if the version was up to date, you could play, but would just get booted if a map came up in the rotation that you didn't have.
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Post by: WayAbvPar on August 17, 2006, 12:15:43 PM
Split the BF2 stuff off and moved into the current Bf2 thread for shits and grins.
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Post by: edlavallee on August 17, 2006, 12:22:41 PM
Really? What version do you have? Latest is 1.3....
I thought that if the version was up to date, you could play, but would just get booted if a map came up in the rotation that you didn't have.
I thought that if the version was up to date, you could play, but would just get booted if a map came up in the rotation that you didn't have.
I thought that was the case too... Am I mistaken? Is there backward compatibility so we can play? Can't we all just get along (unti you thrust that knife blade between my ribs)?
Split the BF2 stuff off and moved into the current Bf2 thread for shits and grins.
Thats why you have that swanky t-shirt that says --> MODERATOR <--
/jealous
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on August 17, 2006, 12:39:12 PM
I don't have the mini expansions and those servers still show up in the selection screen for me, they are colored red to tell me I can't actually join them though. I don't understand why you would only see 12 servers, I would suggest that you have some very weird filters set. Try unchecking all the filters on the server selection screen and then do a refresh. I also found out that clicking on the scrollbar moves you much further down the results than just one page, I have to use the little down arrow to scroll properly.
I re-installed but I'm having a tough time finding a decent server, I keep getting the "there is a problem with your connection" message. I moved since I last played so I don't know if it's my isp, my new router, the game, a patch or a thousand other possibilities. I hope 2142 has better net code.
I re-installed but I'm having a tough time finding a decent server, I keep getting the "there is a problem with your connection" message. I moved since I last played so I don't know if it's my isp, my new router, the game, a patch or a thousand other possibilities. I hope 2142 has better net code.
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Post by: Merusk on August 17, 2006, 12:58:22 PM
I unchecked 'em all a long time ago, except the punkbuster, ranked, and 'compatable version' ones.
It's possible I'm missing a patch, I'll go hunting when I get home but I was fairly certain I was up to date. - mainly because it's pretty good about bitching at you when you login if there's patches to download. When I tried joining a server Zip was on about a week ago it laughed at me and I figured it was because of the x-pacs, since that's all it spits at me these days.
It's possible I'm missing a patch, I'll go hunting when I get home but I was fairly certain I was up to date. - mainly because it's pretty good about bitching at you when you login if there's patches to download. When I tried joining a server Zip was on about a week ago it laughed at me and I figured it was because of the x-pacs, since that's all it spits at me these days.
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Post by: WayAbvPar on August 17, 2006, 12:59:52 PM
Yeah, doublecheck the versions. The only time I have ever seen red servers is when the actual version is incompatible. My brother doesn't have any of the expansions and has been playing with Fur, Zet and I from time to time with no problems.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: edlavallee on August 17, 2006, 01:13:19 PM
I unchecked 'em all a long time ago, except the punkbuster, ranked, and 'compatable version' ones.
It's possible I'm missing a patch, I'll go hunting when I get home but I was fairly certain I was up to date. - mainly because it's pretty good about bitching at you when you login if there's patches to download. When I tried joining a server Zip was on about a week ago it laughed at me and I figured it was because of the x-pacs, since that's all it spits at me these days.
It's possible I'm missing a patch, I'll go hunting when I get home but I was fairly certain I was up to date. - mainly because it's pretty good about bitching at you when you login if there's patches to download. When I tried joining a server Zip was on about a week ago it laughed at me and I figured it was because of the x-pacs, since that's all it spits at me these days.
I make it a habit not to join servers running SpecForces (although I have it installed) and at the point you are talking about I had not yet figured out how to get the expacks to work (I had bought the first but it kept telling me I didnt have the right to play on it). So, I would assume you don't have the most up to date version since I should have been playing on a fairly vanilla server.
Hope you can find and install a patch to clear things up. I use Fileplanet (yes I do pay for it) because I can generally find the patches easily and there is no waiting to download at blazing speeds. Let me know if I can help in any way.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on August 17, 2006, 01:13:46 PM
Yes it's probably the 'same version only' combined with either an out of date patch or maybe you patched up to the 1.4beta version. I usually find around 600 servers with (IIRC) punkbuster, ranked, same version, populated, not full, large maps only.
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Post by: WayAbvPar on August 17, 2006, 01:28:25 PM
Yeah I get between 500 and 800 servers (Depending on what time of night it is). Have 3 or 4 that I play regularly-
Alaskan Knights (the hosting clan AK seem like good blokes, and there aren't a lot of really good players on here)
Geeks United Northwest
Seattle Alpha-Kilo
ATF Hump 'em and Dump 'Em
I always have Xfire up and running, so you should be able to crib the IP address from there if/when I am playing.
Alaskan Knights (the hosting clan AK seem like good blokes, and there aren't a lot of really good players on here)
Geeks United Northwest
Seattle Alpha-Kilo
ATF Hump 'em and Dump 'Em
I always have Xfire up and running, so you should be able to crib the IP address from there if/when I am playing.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 17, 2006, 01:36:46 PM
So - SF has decided I didn't buy it, is there a way to fix that?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 17, 2006, 01:41:54 PM
If it refunded your money, you are in good shape! :-D
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Post by: Furiously on August 17, 2006, 02:38:37 PM
If it refunded your money, you are in good shape! :-D
This is EA...they kept it.Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 17, 2006, 02:40:49 PM
If it refunded your money, you are in good shape! :-D
This is EA...they kept it.It is EA- I am surprised they didn't charge you extra for disabling it.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Merusk on August 17, 2006, 02:46:40 PM
Yep it's a patch that popped up between now and when I stopped playing. Well now don't I just feel like a noob.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 17, 2006, 02:46:59 PM
I think I used my other gamespy name for SF, so it's linked to accounts and not to your CD key....
Or something stupid.
Or something stupid.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 17, 2006, 04:03:28 PM
Yep it's a patch that popped up between now and when I stopped playing. Well now don't I just feel like a noob.
Good! Now you can come die with the rest of us! =)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Flood on August 17, 2006, 05:22:30 PM
I'd be interested in playing again, I have BF2 + Spec Forces but I don't have any of the online expansions. I enjoy BF2 but playing in what is essentially one continous PUG of wanna-be chopper/jet pilots gets O L D.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 18, 2006, 09:58:06 AM
Had a blast playing with all ya'll last night. We should try to do it on a weekend night sometime soon so the EDT folks can stay up later...it is SO much more fun with a squad of friends. Except when one sneaks up on you when you are in a Stinger emplacement and sticks a knife in you to right some percieved wrongs from ANCIENT HISTORY :-D
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Post by: edlavallee on August 18, 2006, 10:18:04 AM
Yeah, I did too, but I got a long way to go before I contribute more than just being a large bit of chum. I did realize why I thought I had never played Mashtuur City... I suck so bad at that map I had wiped all memory out of the last times I had been there. I was lucky to get a grand score of 5... With only a few minutes left I was still in negative numbers.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 18, 2006, 11:23:48 AM
I recalled why I quit playing the support class now.
Shooting at someone 20 feet away and unloading 100 rounds into their face and not having a single one hit sucks.
Was fun but I seemed to get seperated every 10 seconds as I would see a dead person and go for some revive points, then Way would have jumped into a jeep, gotten everyone killed, and would respawn 3/4 the map away.
Shooting at someone 20 feet away and unloading 100 rounds into their face and not having a single one hit sucks.
Was fun but I seemed to get seperated every 10 seconds as I would see a dead person and go for some revive points, then Way would have jumped into a jeep, gotten everyone killed, and would respawn 3/4 the map away.
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Post by: Zetleft on August 18, 2006, 11:24:50 AM
Had a blast playing with all ya'll last night. We should try to do it on a weekend night sometime soon so the EDT folks can stay up later...it is SO much more fun with a squad of friends. Except when one sneaks up on you when you are in a Stinger emplacement and sticks a knife in you to right some percieved wrongs from ANCIENT HISTORY :-D
I wanted my revenge to be memorable. And good for me I still owe you and Furiously at least 1 more, I'm thinking maybe a nice car bomb :D
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 18, 2006, 01:21:45 PM
I recalled why I quit playing the support class now.
Shooting at someone 20 feet away and unloading 100 rounds into their face and not having a single one hit sucks.
Was fun but I seemed to get seperated every 10 seconds as I would see a dead person and go for some revive points, then Way would have jumped into a jeep, gotten everyone killed, and would respawn 3/4 the map away.
Shooting at someone 20 feet away and unloading 100 rounds into their face and not having a single one hit sucks.
Was fun but I seemed to get seperated every 10 seconds as I would see a dead person and go for some revive points, then Way would have jumped into a jeep, gotten everyone killed, and would respawn 3/4 the map away.
I am the Ricky Bobby of Bf2. I like to go fast. Shake and Bake!
What support gun are you using? The PKM is HORRIBLY inaccurate (but does good damage to choppers). The MG36 is much better, especially if you shoot in short bursts vs spray and pray.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Flood on August 19, 2006, 06:40:21 PM
I recalled why I quit playing the support class now.
Shooting at someone 20 feet away and unloading 100 rounds into their face and not having a single one hit sucks.
Was fun but I seemed to get seperated every 10 seconds as I would see a dead person and go for some revive points, then Way would have jumped into a jeep, gotten everyone killed, and would respawn 3/4 the map away.
Shooting at someone 20 feet away and unloading 100 rounds into their face and not having a single one hit sucks.
Was fun but I seemed to get seperated every 10 seconds as I would see a dead person and go for some revive points, then Way would have jumped into a jeep, gotten everyone killed, and would respawn 3/4 the map away.
LOL, for me it always seemed to be Merusk driving away and me running after him like a PKM toting Tommy Boy. But yea, I had fun too. I'll be around tonight (Saturday) and Sunday night too if you guys jump on. I'll log onto to XFire etc. when I get home.
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Post by: Merusk on August 19, 2006, 08:36:20 PM
Corpse?
Must. Get. Revive point!
*dive* *dies*
Must. Get. Revive point!
*dive* *dies*
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on August 20, 2006, 08:46:57 AM
Fileplanet is starting that BF2142 "event" this week to get in to the beta. It's a first come first serve type of thing, I guess there was already a very small pre-registration too.
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Post by: Furiously on August 21, 2006, 10:01:06 AM
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As a pre-registered user your beta slot is reserved and guaranteed! Next week
you will receive an email with details on claiming your beta key, downloading
the Battlefield 2142 beta file, and access to beta services.
you will receive an email with details on claiming your beta key, downloading
the Battlefield 2142 beta file, and access to beta services.
I'll let you know how it is in a few days I guess...
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on August 25, 2006, 06:54:56 AM
The link for the 2142 beta is up for subscribers at fileplanet now, they previously claimed there are a limited number of keys so you might want to get it now. There will also be an open beta in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 25, 2006, 07:31:09 AM
I was thinking about the BF trend. It's been toward faster and more damaging. One thing I liked about 1942 was it's slower pace. Don't get me started on jets, blah.
So I think after 2142, they should do Battlefield 1916. Trenches, flamethrowers, biplanes, barbed wire, rifles. Not sure fpstards could take the slower pace, though (though they'll camp for hours with a sniper rifle...). I hate snipers.
So I think after 2142, they should do Battlefield 1916. Trenches, flamethrowers, biplanes, barbed wire, rifles. Not sure fpstards could take the slower pace, though (though they'll camp for hours with a sniper rifle...). I hate snipers.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on August 25, 2006, 07:34:38 AM
They should do Battlefield 1916.
Heck, how about Battlefield 1776? Yay, reload times.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: edlavallee on August 25, 2006, 07:52:21 AM
They should do Battlefield 1916.
Heck, how about Battlefield 1776? Yay, reload times.
I already play like I wear a red coat with a huge white X on the front. Like I need more visibility.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 25, 2006, 08:24:59 AM
Heck, how about Battlefield 1776? Yay, reload times.
So it would basically be like using a grenade launcher in BF2 ;)Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 25, 2006, 09:29:34 AM
I was thinking about the BF trend. It's been toward faster and more damaging. One thing I liked about 1942 was it's slower pace. Don't get me started on jets, blah.
So I think after 2142, they should do Battlefield 1916. Trenches, flamethrowers, biplanes, barbed wire, rifles. Not sure fpstards could take the slower pace, though (though they'll camp for hours with a sniper rifle...). I hate snipers.
So I think after 2142, they should do Battlefield 1916. Trenches, flamethrowers, biplanes, barbed wire, rifles. Not sure fpstards could take the slower pace, though (though they'll camp for hours with a sniper rifle...). I hate snipers.
I think your observations are dead on Sky. I had the same thoughts a couple nights ago.
My other though was it would be interesting to have randomly generated maps. Having people know to run up the right to cap the back base on Karkand ASAP to guarentee a win, takes a lot of the fun out of the game.
I'd comment on 2142 but :nda:...
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Post by: edlavallee on August 25, 2006, 10:20:29 AM
My other though was it would be interesting to have randomly generated maps. Having people know to run up the right to cap the back base on Karkand ASAP to guarentee a win, takes a lot of the fun out of the game.
Random maps would be awesome.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 25, 2006, 11:50:28 AM
That's why I got burned out on 1942, playing at the clan level you learn every damned trick on every damned map, and it just becomes a snooze as you follow strategy x or defense y. People used to get pissed when you could sink the ship on Omaha before they could cap the beach flag. That's why I played a lot of RtR, it came out just as I was extracting myself from clan play.
I do miss playing with the guys, having a full coordinated team with TS vs the same was something public servers can't even touch. It's an entirely different game.
Or maybe some unified product. If you have all the BF games installed, you can play BF:Time Traveler and each map is in a different era, but with revamped graphics from the newest version.
I do miss playing with the guys, having a full coordinated team with TS vs the same was something public servers can't even touch. It's an entirely different game.
Or maybe some unified product. If you have all the BF games installed, you can play BF:Time Traveler and each map is in a different era, but with revamped graphics from the newest version.
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Post by: Miasma on August 25, 2006, 12:33:59 PM
This is almost completely off topic but what accent would you say the USMC commander has in BF2? I think that's a cool voice.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on August 26, 2006, 02:45:47 PM
I too think random maps would be awesome. It shouldn't be *that* hard to do, what with seed numbers & all. Hell, maybe they can just set up one machine to generate 10 maps a month, which then rotate into action while the last 10 rotate out. Or maybe /gasp/ they let us design maps, and then submit them for approval. Too many companies seem to be afraid of tapping into the creative potential of their fan base.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: edlavallee on August 26, 2006, 05:33:40 PM
Downloaded and played BF2142 and I can't say I am all that thrilled. One more vote for BF1776.
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Post by: geldonyetich on August 27, 2006, 07:57:55 PM
I liked it - looks like it'll be a more refined BF2, and this is while it's still in a "tuning beta".
About the only thing I could use less of is this idea of grinding for essential equipment.
About the only thing I could use less of is this idea of grinding for essential equipment.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 28, 2006, 07:03:22 AM
Talk about a game that doesn't give a fuck about casual players, sheesh. Gruntzilla has two unlocks after a year. I started a new character just to get a couple more unlocks this year because I don't like the two I unlocked with grunty.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 28, 2006, 07:47:53 AM
For those of you playing 2142. Get the Assault unlock gun (Not the medic one) asap.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 28, 2006, 12:08:09 PM
Talk about a game that doesn't give a fuck about casual players, sheesh. Gruntzilla has two unlocks after a year. I started a new character just to get a couple more unlocks this year because I don't like the two I unlocked with grunty.
If you play for 10 hours you should have a ton of unlocks. You just have to learn to whore for points every now and again- cap lots of flags, defend flags, litter the ground with ammo and med packs, etc.
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Post by: Trippy on August 28, 2006, 05:22:13 PM
Talk about a game that doesn't give a fuck about casual players, sheesh. Gruntzilla has two unlocks after a year. I started a new character just to get a couple more unlocks this year because I don't like the two I unlocked with grunty.
They actually significantly lowered the points you needed for various ranks a while back. I remember logging on after not playing for a while and found I had a slew of new unlocks though of course I did catass the game when it first came out.Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on August 28, 2006, 05:36:58 PM
Is the game version listed in the top right side of the main screen supposed to always say 1.12.blah even after you DL the 1.3 patch through the EA downloader and install it? I cant seem to change it. And I cant seem to get my AF to run either.... grrr
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on August 28, 2006, 07:02:51 PM
Yes, I have 1.3 installed and the version says 1.1.2878-710.0. Maybe they round up the 2878, I don't know, it's pretty stupid. I'm not sure why armored fury won't run, I didn't buy that but if it's anything like special forces you have to launch it via it's own shortcut, not the standard BF2 one.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 29, 2006, 01:53:44 PM
If you play for 10 hours you should have a ton of unlocks. You just have to learn to whore for points every now and again- cap lots of flags, defend flags, litter the ground with ammo and med packs, etc.
I know. But I find point whoring stupid. I play the game to enjoy the game, just like mmo. I'm slow in those, too. As I said, not a huge deal because I started a new guy (http://bf2s.com/player/76754261/). I was doing real well with him until I got on the opposite side from the clan using TS and they just stomped the shit out of everyone for a while. Usually they split between sides so it's not so bad. They've also been running Gulf of Oman a lot, and I got tired of that map after the demo, goddamned snipers.Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on August 31, 2006, 10:41:21 AM
The bf2142 beta has gone public (http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/bf2142/) now if you want to give it a try. 1.3Gb download though. I don't know if the NDA is still in effect.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on August 31, 2006, 11:22:24 AM
I'll check it out.
55 minute queue at the moment though.
55 minute queue at the moment though.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on August 31, 2006, 11:44:12 AM
Heck, how about Battlefield 1776? Yay, reload times.
So it would basically be like using a grenade launcher in BF2 ;)"Elite" loading time in 1776 was around 20 seconds. Or, about 3 rounds per minute. 4 rounds for the "elite" elite.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 31, 2006, 11:56:19 AM
I was joking.
You guys don't think WWI would kick ass done BF style? Mustard gas ftw. Trenches and 1st-gen tanks, biplanes, the Red Motherfuckin' Baron?
You guys don't think WWI would kick ass done BF style? Mustard gas ftw. Trenches and 1st-gen tanks, biplanes, the Red Motherfuckin' Baron?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on August 31, 2006, 12:19:33 PM
Heh. The Baron's top speed was a whopping 103 MPH. :wink:
I guess if the maps were real small, it wouldn't seem so bad.
I guess if the maps were real small, it wouldn't seem so bad.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on August 31, 2006, 12:21:07 PM
The thought of trench warfare and machine guns mowing masses down.... Instead I propose the following:
BF:A... The Alamo.
BF:A... The Alamo.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on August 31, 2006, 12:59:21 PM
I found a battlefield 1918 mod. (http://www.battlefield1918.de/artikel/244/) I think it's for the bf1942 engine. It seems to be written by krauts so I don't trust it! :-)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on August 31, 2006, 01:06:02 PM
The thought of trench warfare and machine guns mowing masses down.... Instead I propose the following:
BF:A... The Alamo.
BF:A... The Alamo.
I just saw a recent documentary that suggested Davy Crockett actually gave up and let himself be executed like a bitch. Instead of goin' out gunz a'blazing.
I'm here all day folks, ready to demythologize history.
[edit] I mispelled "Davy".
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on August 31, 2006, 01:40:51 PM
I tried the beta link provided a few posts up, and it said the beta was now closed. I am looking forward to this though. Lets hope jets and helicopters are tamed a little. Or maybe the Air portion of the map is 10x bigger, so they can go dogfight and leave the ground-pounders alone.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on August 31, 2006, 01:46:27 PM
No more jets! The attack chopper is now sort of a chopper/jet hybrid (http://bf2142.com/content/Type_4_DORAGON). I don't think they are anywhere near as annoying as BF2 jets. They are also quite a bit easier to fly, you don't really need a joystick anymore.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on August 31, 2006, 02:05:08 PM
I still maintain that BF2 jets were never as big of a problem as others think. You just need dedicated anti-air (not the casual kind). Don't count on your own team's pilots -- they're all wanking off to something else.
My highest vehicle kill success next to tanks was anti-air. I kept pilots in check well enough that they didn't become such a problem for people.
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BF2142 seems to be even more artficially sluggish and bloated than BF2.
My highest vehicle kill success next to tanks was anti-air. I kept pilots in check well enough that they didn't become such a problem for people.
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BF2142 seems to be even more artficially sluggish and bloated than BF2.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on August 31, 2006, 08:20:43 PM
Heh. The Baron's top speed was a whopping 103 MPH. :wink:
I guess if the maps were real small, it wouldn't seem so bad.
Maybe I'm just old, but for me, Desert Combat and BF2 flying is just too fast (the jets, not the helos). I was a pilot in my 1942 clan, I loved the difference between the planes in that game, a sluggish stuka that had a nice payload or a nimble spit dodging through the canyons of gazala. AAA took a bit more skill than 'wait for beep', too.I guess if the maps were real small, it wouldn't seem so bad.
BF2 brought a slew of GREAT improvements, but I don't care for the more spastic pace. I doubt we'd see a WWI BF, just because the quaketards and energydrinktards wouldn't get their spiketv rush.
Now git off mah lawn!
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: edlavallee on September 01, 2006, 07:09:30 AM
Maybe I'm just old, but for me, Desert Combat and BF2 flying is just too fast (the jets, not the helos).
I loved the jets in BFDC. Compared to the jets in BF-V and now in BF2, the jets in BFDC appeared to me to have better "feel" to them. Maybe its more arcade-y, but flying them was fun.
I hear your comment about too fast, as long as you are referring to how quickly you might go from one side of the map to the other... On the right map (Gazala, El Alamein, etc.) you had enough room to dogfight properly. However, the other good WWII maps like Market Garden just didn't seem to have enough airspace. Its the smaller maps that made the jets feel too fast.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on September 01, 2006, 07:32:00 AM
No, I'm not just talking map size. Though I agree there were certainly tight maps in 1942, like Kursk and Kharkov. I always liked flying Market Garden because you had to worry about the Deutsch AAA on one side, but there were so many tasty armor targets to bomb. It was a great skill flying map, like Gazala could be. El Alamein was great for dogfighting, but not much call for skilled flying due to the landscape.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on September 01, 2006, 08:03:40 AM
Well hooray for 2142 and no jets! I know it's beta and all that, but so far do they seem to have a good balance between AA power and helo armor? Are there any man-portable AA weapons?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: edlavallee on September 01, 2006, 08:23:50 AM
No, I'm not just talking map size. Though I agree there were certainly tight maps in 1942, like Kursk and Kharkov. I always liked flying Market Garden because you had to worry about the Deutsch AAA on one side, but there were so many tasty armor targets to bomb. It was a great skill flying map, like Gazala could be. El Alamein was great for dogfighting, but not much call for skilled flying due to the landscape.
Gazala was a great skilled pilot map with plenty of terrain to weave within, but for sheer kill fest I preferred El Alamein or the infrequent CTF No Fly Zone. Open air dogfights take a different kind of skill.
Heh, Deutch AAA. I knew what you meant but my mind went somewhere else initially... Ve haf vays of insuring you.
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Post by: Miasma on September 01, 2006, 08:43:08 AM
Well hooray for 2142 and no jets! I know it's beta and all that, but so far do they seem to have a good balance between AA power and helo armor? Are there any man-portable AA weapons?
Well it is beta but DICE has already release a huge amount of info and movies (http://youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_sort=relevance&search_query=battlefield+2142&search=Search) about the game, especially the units. The wiki is pretty good. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_2142) I think the beta NDA is targeted more at how playing it feels and stability type issues.Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on September 01, 2006, 09:09:30 AM
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Open air dogfights take a different kind of skill.
Yup. Another cool thing about Gazala was the sheer amount of airpower you could put up. We used to crash a stuka and 109 as germans to nab the secondary british aircraft (bomber+ 2x spit) and have 4 fighters, one light bomber and one heavy bomber in the air. That also et up 6 or 16 players (we usually played 32 player competetively), but it could really put the hurt on the enemy long enough to nab a lot of bases and run down tickets. Especially if the 2 109's focus on harassing the brit base.Ah, I miss 1942 at times.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Zetleft on September 01, 2006, 03:10:31 PM
Since we are talking all the Battlefield games here I thought I'd link this here. EA has signed a deal to make in game advertising in some of their titles and the first is......Battlefield 2142 (http://global.dice.se/news.aspx?article=6a4b5c28-d0fc-4326-bb2f-0f0d0fbd5ddc). Wow fuck you EA and fuck this new game. Like we needed more reasons to hate them.
Enjoy your ads for xxxtreme mountain dew while you fly your chopper/jet thingy.
Enjoy your ads for xxxtreme mountain dew while you fly your chopper/jet thingy.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Trippy on September 01, 2006, 04:14:10 PM
Since we are talking all the Battlefield games here I thought I'd link this here. EA has signed a deal to make in game advertising in some of their titles and the first is......Battlefield 2142 (http://global.dice.se/news.aspx?article=6a4b5c28-d0fc-4326-bb2f-0f0d0fbd5ddc). Wow fuck you EA and fuck this new game. Like we needed more reasons to hate them.
Enjoy your ads for xxxtreme mountain dew while you fly your chopper/jet thingy.
Psst. Over here (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=8098.0).Enjoy your ads for xxxtreme mountain dew while you fly your chopper/jet thingy.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Zetleft on September 01, 2006, 07:16:55 PM
Ah, thanks. Too damn many subforums to keep track of :-P
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: climbjtree on September 03, 2006, 02:16:17 PM
Hopefully no one has mentioned this so far, but a new mod was recently finished for BF2. It's called Point of Existence. (http://www.pointofexistence.com (http://www.pointofexistence.com))
They released a version of it for BFV, so some of you may be familiar with it - I haven't played that one. In its current release, it features the Ukranians duking it out with the Germans after the Ukrainians did some conquesting of their own. The Ukranians use Cold War era weaponry with a few newer pieces, while the German selection revolves around variants of the H&K G36. It also boasts a bit more realism. One example of that realism: tanks are armored differently if different locations and the angle at which a round impacts the tank's armor determines penetration value.
I play it almost exclusively.
Also, it's got a smoother feel to it and seems like it requires less of a beast of a machine to run it, or at least that's the case with my computer.
They released a version of it for BFV, so some of you may be familiar with it - I haven't played that one. In its current release, it features the Ukranians duking it out with the Germans after the Ukrainians did some conquesting of their own. The Ukranians use Cold War era weaponry with a few newer pieces, while the German selection revolves around variants of the H&K G36. It also boasts a bit more realism. One example of that realism: tanks are armored differently if different locations and the angle at which a round impacts the tank's armor determines penetration value.
I play it almost exclusively.
Also, it's got a smoother feel to it and seems like it requires less of a beast of a machine to run it, or at least that's the case with my computer.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Hanzii on September 04, 2006, 01:12:30 PM
Well hooray for 2142 and no jets! I know it's beta and all that, but so far do they seem to have a good balance between AA power and helo armor? Are there any man-portable AA weapons?
No, but it's easy to bring down choppers with vehicles and static AA.
I play BF 2142 exclusively and like it a lot. It's very different to BF1942 or BF2 and the Titan maps add corridor infantry fighting to the mix. The balance seem good, but the sides are very similar. The new unlock system is cool and forces non-catasses to specialize in a role. It's a fun addition to BF2 (like Vietnam was to 1942, but better) but even more artificial and arcady - don't expect it to make sense from a modern arms point of view. (no guided missiles and titans are a retarded concept)
It's fun.
I have lots of stability issues, but that might be my computer or hopefully just because it's beta. Loadtimes are still really really long, but the online game browser is improved (but buggy). Wlil buy on release.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on September 04, 2006, 01:28:38 PM
I'm liking it too, but those load times are killing me. All performance related issues are killing me. BF2 was bad enough. I probably won't be buying it until I get a new machine.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on September 04, 2006, 02:16:20 PM
I don't think I'm going to buy it. There are many reasons but it was the online ad nonsense that broke the camel's back. I am looking forward to Quake Wars (http://www.enemyterritory.com/) being a better battlefield, hopefully.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Merusk on September 04, 2006, 06:32:20 PM
The new unlock system is cool and forces non-catasses to specialize in a role.
These statements are in conflict. In no way, shape or form should anything that's casual-restrictive be "cool". Hooray for not allowing me to do more than putz in one role? No thx.. this and the ads kill the game before I even start to get tempted.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on September 04, 2006, 07:41:44 PM
I thought the ads would be an easy fix by modders? What about the crazy-simple possibility that a sturdy Hosts file will filter it out on individual machines?
I hear people complaining the airships are too easy to fly, but I think thats great, since it means a wider variety of players will fly, and maybe that menas fewer people clustered around the damn airstrips spamming the "enter" key to be the next one to get to fly around in an overpowered machine.... I dont much like jets or helocopters in BF2, in case you didn't notice, hehe. They ruin the fun for a lot of people I think. More than they make the game fun for, anyway.
I hear people complaining the airships are too easy to fly, but I think thats great, since it means a wider variety of players will fly, and maybe that menas fewer people clustered around the damn airstrips spamming the "enter" key to be the next one to get to fly around in an overpowered machine.... I dont much like jets or helocopters in BF2, in case you didn't notice, hehe. They ruin the fun for a lot of people I think. More than they make the game fun for, anyway.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Azazel on September 05, 2006, 12:32:32 AM
These statements are in conflict. In no way, shape or form should anything that's casual-restrictive be "cool". Hooray for not allowing me to do more than putz in one role? No thx.. this and the ads kill the game before I even start to get tempted.
I totally agree with you. The combination ofthe catassery in BF2 and the fact that it's still a sloppily-programmed, unfinished POS with a shitful server browser has killed the game for me.
The fact that BF2172 looks like it's more of the same is no surprise and will likely cause me not to buy it. I might d/l the demo and check it out, but I fear it's just the same mistakes yet again.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on September 05, 2006, 07:35:10 AM
I'll also jump on that unlock comment. Garbage. I don't mind having unlocks, it's just the ungodly amount of catass built in. I've gotten a couple new awards in BF2 lately (2 armor and I've been playing medic, so two of those). I looked through the list to find out why I only have a handful of awards and medals (maybe a half dozen) out of all listed...the prevalence of 100h+ medals is just silly.
But on unlocks...I've been playing the same profile for a year and I've played a total of 35 hours or so (plus about 3 hours into a new profile because it'll be about four months!!! until I get another unlock with gruntzilla). To me, it's a jump in and play for a half hour type of game, and unfortunately, given time to browse servers (which is actually better now that I'm playing vanilla BF2 and there are four great servers in the list always) and connect, plus the loading times, if I play an hour that's maybe 2 or 3 rounds. I've unlocked TWO weapons, and I don't like either (the assault G3 and the support PKM). The assault unlock takes away the reason I play assault (the grenade launcher), and I just get butchered as support (about 1:2).
Just got my best single round score I can remember, 86! I don't whore for points, so that's pretty good for me. Did it playing the opening of Karkand as medic supporting a squad and then as engineer when everyone was over the river fighting for the last few bases, nobody was grabbing the USMC tank (that's where I got the two tank awards).
I guess I'll just have to have a profile for every class? For fuck's sake.
But on unlocks...I've been playing the same profile for a year and I've played a total of 35 hours or so (plus about 3 hours into a new profile because it'll be about four months!!! until I get another unlock with gruntzilla). To me, it's a jump in and play for a half hour type of game, and unfortunately, given time to browse servers (which is actually better now that I'm playing vanilla BF2 and there are four great servers in the list always) and connect, plus the loading times, if I play an hour that's maybe 2 or 3 rounds. I've unlocked TWO weapons, and I don't like either (the assault G3 and the support PKM). The assault unlock takes away the reason I play assault (the grenade launcher), and I just get butchered as support (about 1:2).
Just got my best single round score I can remember, 86! I don't whore for points, so that's pretty good for me. Did it playing the opening of Karkand as medic supporting a squad and then as engineer when everyone was over the river fighting for the last few bases, nobody was grabbing the USMC tank (that's where I got the two tank awards).
I guess I'll just have to have a profile for every class? For fuck's sake.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 05, 2006, 12:40:08 PM
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I don't like either (the assault G3 and the support PKM)
If you are in love with the grenade launcher, the G3 isn't your bag. However, it is probably the most lethal weapon in the game when in the right hands. It does shitloads of damage; I get kills with 2 bursts (2-3 rounds each) pretty much every time- it is extremely accurate. The only downside to it (I consider the lack of grenade launcher a plus, since I am far more accurate throwing grenades the old fashioned way) is the 20 round clip. If it was 30 rounds, it might be overpowered.
The PKM is pretty crappy. It is an upgrade to the MEC/Chinese support MG, but not to the M249 (IMHO). About the only time it is really useful is for shooting choppers and non-armored vehicles; it does a ton of damage and its horrible accuracy isn't as noticeable on the larger targets. The MG36 (the next available support gun) is far, far superior.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on September 05, 2006, 01:46:14 PM
Is the medic gun more damaging then the default assault gun? Seemed that way to me, I was taking down people much faster. I may have been on a hot streak, too, so it's hard to say. Do you have to unlock in order? Say, the G3 so I can unlock the flashbang? The smoke grenade is nice, but flashbang would be better for me, I'd think.
Anyway, WAAY too much time between unlocks for casual players. When they *cough* reduced *cough* the requirements, I was given my first two unlocks instantly, and I haven't had one since. I don't even know what I'd unlock. The sniper rifle seems nice (the one that can penetrate cockpits), but I don't snipe much, too boring. Maybe the engineer shotgun because the USMC version seems so much slower than the MEC version *blam blam blam* which reminds me a bit of the NC jackhammer in Planetside.
Been trying to get away from Assault for a while. Doing medic because it's pretty handy in a squad and engineer when I can get a vehicle, or just for flavor (practicing guarding the backdoor on Karkand, for instance). Specops looks fun, but I get pasted playing that quite a bit, don't have it down at all. Antitank just seems limited to me, I duck and hide and wait for armor to move on :) I should use support on chopper/transport maps like Dragon, I forget how they maul unarmored vehicles (used to use that class in Desert Combat to deny chopperwhores).
edit: From my BF2S stats page:
Anyway, WAAY too much time between unlocks for casual players. When they *cough* reduced *cough* the requirements, I was given my first two unlocks instantly, and I haven't had one since. I don't even know what I'd unlock. The sniper rifle seems nice (the one that can penetrate cockpits), but I don't snipe much, too boring. Maybe the engineer shotgun because the USMC version seems so much slower than the MEC version *blam blam blam* which reminds me a bit of the NC jackhammer in Planetside.
Been trying to get away from Assault for a while. Doing medic because it's pretty handy in a squad and engineer when I can get a vehicle, or just for flavor (practicing guarding the backdoor on Karkand, for instance). Specops looks fun, but I get pasted playing that quite a bit, don't have it down at all. Antitank just seems limited to me, I duck and hide and wait for armor to move on :) I should use support on chopper/transport maps like Dragon, I forget how they maul unarmored vehicles (used to use that class in Desert Combat to deny chopperwhores).
edit: From my BF2S stats page:
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Score: 1,620 of 2,500. At your historical rate, you should earn 880 in 235 days (or 17:47:16 straight).
:roll: And I'm a goddamned Corporal. 235 days for my next unlock my fucking balls.Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 05, 2006, 02:32:52 PM
The historical rate includes the entire time since release; it is based on you playing at your normal rate. If you A) play more, and B) play more efficiently (point whore a bit) you can get it done A LOT sooner. I would say I could earn 880 points in 4 or 5 nights (maybe 20 hours of play time total)- that is a very conservative estimate. Have a round or 2 like your 86 and it will come a hell of a lot faster.
If you can stay up late enough, Furiously and I can take you on a point-earning adventure. The key is to get a squad of with support and medics and cap lots of flags. I played for the first time in a couple of weeks over the weekend and had a blast. Was a bit rusty though- K/D ratio was pretty close to even.
Also-
I guess I play a bit more often :-D
If you can stay up late enough, Furiously and I can take you on a point-earning adventure. The key is to get a squad of with support and medics and cap lots of flags. I played for the first time in a couple of weeks over the weekend and had a blast. Was a bit rusty though- K/D ratio was pretty close to even.
Also-
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Score: 30,882 of 50,000. At your historical rate, you should earn 19,118 in 254 days (or 235:32:48 straight).
I guess I play a bit more often :-D
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on September 05, 2006, 02:42:20 PM
Is the medic gun more damaging then the default assault gun? Seemed that way to me, I was taking down people much faster. I may have been on a hot streak, too, so it's hard to say. Do you have to unlock in order? Say, the G3 so I can unlock the flashbang? The smoke grenade is nice, but flashbang would be better for me, I'd think.
Yeah, lots of people swear by the medic gun, it's pretty nice. Has a scope and everything. I usually play support and I always use the PKM, I like it a lot. The accuracy got a big boost with patch 1.2 I think.I am pretty sure you only get flashbangs if you buy the special forces expansion. It also gives you around four immediate unlocks so that you can pick the SF guns if you want them, but you don't have to. Yes, it's a blatant ploy by EA to try and get you to buy the expansion.
Edit: Also a really good way to try out the other unlocks is to pick up dead player's kits. If you pick up the kit of someone who has all the unlocks you can use them too. There are also a couple of mods that let you use all the unlocks in single player mode.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on September 05, 2006, 02:45:59 PM
The SF unlocks were the best. I didn't like the original sniper rifle unlock as the crosshairs were too big and the zoom wasnt that big. The SF one was great - tiny crosshair, big zoom.
The medic gun unlock from SF was also very very nice. put it in single shot mode and 4 clicks makes a dead enemy.
The medic gun unlock from SF was also very very nice. put it in single shot mode and 4 clicks makes a dead enemy.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: rk47 on September 06, 2006, 12:01:37 AM
Solution to people who doesn't want to buy SF Expansion pack but wants new unlocks.
Just play a few hours of SF in your local LAN Cafe, but make sure you're playing on ranked server online.
Log back on SF again the next day, and you'll get free unlocks. I did that with mine :mrgreen: Loved the G36E, the only unlocks I don't have are the Engineers 2 guns since I don't play them.
Just play a few hours of SF in your local LAN Cafe, but make sure you're playing on ranked server online.
Log back on SF again the next day, and you'll get free unlocks. I did that with mine :mrgreen: Loved the G36E, the only unlocks I don't have are the Engineers 2 guns since I don't play them.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on September 06, 2006, 07:04:56 AM
Heh. Local LAN cafe. You're a regular comedian.
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Have a round or 2 like your 86 and it will come a hell of a lot faster.
I looked it up, it was 82. A total anomaly, I normally score 16-26 in a round. Funny part is I'm usually in the lead for flag caps or assists. I'm really not that good at the way you're "supposed" to play the game. I don't whore it, I play it like a tactical wargame. Doesn't bother me beyond not getting unlocks at an acceptable pace.Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on September 06, 2006, 07:20:31 AM
If what rk47 said works it sounds like you could give your login to someone with SF, have them play a round of warlord and get the unlocks.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 06, 2006, 09:42:00 AM
Change your password, send it to me, and I will get you to the next unlock level in about a week :-D
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on September 06, 2006, 01:40:32 PM
I guess patch 1.4 also added infantry only servers. You can just spawn medic/support and get lots of points by spamming out bags and doing revives. Or lobbing grenades all over the place.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 06, 2006, 04:40:59 PM
1.4? Is there a new patch? Crikey! When did that happen? I JUST PLAYED MONDAY NIGHT, for God's sake.
Edit- those sneaky bastards! Patch notes-
C4 throwing adjustment is long overdue. Car Drop- not familiar with that exploit, but if they still allow drops on arty to destroy the gun, they need to be beaten to death with an ergonomic keyboard.
Yay for new map!
Goddamn it. A new BF2 patch and new :nda: build. I need to hit the lottery so I have enough time and money to play all my games. Stupid capitalism.
Edit- those sneaky bastards! Patch notes-
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1.4 Patch – New content
* New level: Road to Jalalabad (Conquest 16-32-64, Singleplayer, Co-op)
* New Server Option: No Vehicles mode
1.4 Patch – Fix List
Front End:
* Front end - Fix server browser issues with updating info
* Front End - Multiplayer & Co-op - Players on server list can include Bots instead of human players
* Multiplayer Internet Server maps size filter not working
* Fixed an issue in the front end where pressing tab twice in the IP window would cause the cursor to skip to wrong box
Game Server:
* Increased server stability
* All levels - Co-op - Crash after reviving player without a kit- 1st attempt Server - Linux 32 Dedicated - Server crashes when trying to rotate maps in Special Forces Co-op Mode (fixed on SUSE only. Still present in Red Hat and Fedora)
* Adjust the minimum number of players to start the round.The new values for 16, 32 and 64 players are 6, 6 and 8 respectively.
* Re-enable unlocks on unranked servers
* Ranked server forces unlocks i.e. have to have unlocks selected.
* Coop - Local Server - If Server Host is kicked and banned although they do not actually get kicked, no other players may join the server after that point.
* Fixed a dedicated server crash which was occurring when the user held "CTRL" and "SHIFT" while selecting a map
* Fixed a crash which would occur when c4 was placed on a flag pole and the server rotated maps
* Vehicle drop crash related bug (missing icon)
* Co-Op bot console commands do not function on local servers.
Client / Gameplay:
* Red/Blue nametag bug –Fix to the issue where players would show up with the wrong color name tag
* Introduced a delay from proning to standing to help reduce exploiting
* Adjusted C4 to make throwing more difficult
* Fixed the issue where a red distance marker appears on the ground
* Fixed the issue that caused players arms to become invisible after switching weapons when using throwable items
* Made adjustments to reduce the damage taken by vehicles when driving
* Adjusted the tire material on the muscle car to reduce the issue with this vehicle taking too much damage.
* Commander options no longer available whilst dead.
* Fixed the issue with a spawn point showing up as selected when a player has spawned in during preview round
* Fixed the issue that would cause infantry players to be revived with no kit.
* Fixed several rare graphics crashes.
* Fixed issue with players crashing while clicking "Join Game" in the front end
* Car-Drop: Made adjustments to the car drop feature to prevent players from exploiting into buildings.
* Discovered and repaired an issue tied to projectiles which would sometimes allow tanks to fire two shells, support to fire multiple rounds, and other issues (all maps).
* Fixed bug where after 2 rounds on the same map, the top player stars are awarded to the wrong people in the menu
* Transport Helicopters – Increased the armor of all transport helicopters
* New level: Road to Jalalabad (Conquest 16-32-64, Singleplayer, Co-op)
* New Server Option: No Vehicles mode
1.4 Patch – Fix List
Front End:
* Front end - Fix server browser issues with updating info
* Front End - Multiplayer & Co-op - Players on server list can include Bots instead of human players
* Multiplayer Internet Server maps size filter not working
* Fixed an issue in the front end where pressing tab twice in the IP window would cause the cursor to skip to wrong box
Game Server:
* Increased server stability
* All levels - Co-op - Crash after reviving player without a kit- 1st attempt Server - Linux 32 Dedicated - Server crashes when trying to rotate maps in Special Forces Co-op Mode (fixed on SUSE only. Still present in Red Hat and Fedora)
* Adjust the minimum number of players to start the round.The new values for 16, 32 and 64 players are 6, 6 and 8 respectively.
* Re-enable unlocks on unranked servers
* Ranked server forces unlocks i.e. have to have unlocks selected.
* Coop - Local Server - If Server Host is kicked and banned although they do not actually get kicked, no other players may join the server after that point.
* Fixed a dedicated server crash which was occurring when the user held "CTRL" and "SHIFT" while selecting a map
* Fixed a crash which would occur when c4 was placed on a flag pole and the server rotated maps
* Vehicle drop crash related bug (missing icon)
* Co-Op bot console commands do not function on local servers.
Client / Gameplay:
* Red/Blue nametag bug –Fix to the issue where players would show up with the wrong color name tag
* Introduced a delay from proning to standing to help reduce exploiting
* Adjusted C4 to make throwing more difficult
* Fixed the issue where a red distance marker appears on the ground
* Fixed the issue that caused players arms to become invisible after switching weapons when using throwable items
* Made adjustments to reduce the damage taken by vehicles when driving
* Adjusted the tire material on the muscle car to reduce the issue with this vehicle taking too much damage.
* Commander options no longer available whilst dead.
* Fixed the issue with a spawn point showing up as selected when a player has spawned in during preview round
* Fixed the issue that would cause infantry players to be revived with no kit.
* Fixed several rare graphics crashes.
* Fixed issue with players crashing while clicking "Join Game" in the front end
* Car-Drop: Made adjustments to the car drop feature to prevent players from exploiting into buildings.
* Discovered and repaired an issue tied to projectiles which would sometimes allow tanks to fire two shells, support to fire multiple rounds, and other issues (all maps).
* Fixed bug where after 2 rounds on the same map, the top player stars are awarded to the wrong people in the menu
* Transport Helicopters – Increased the armor of all transport helicopters
C4 throwing adjustment is long overdue. Car Drop- not familiar with that exploit, but if they still allow drops on arty to destroy the gun, they need to be beaten to death with an ergonomic keyboard.
Yay for new map!
Goddamn it. A new BF2 patch and new :nda: build. I need to hit the lottery so I have enough time and money to play all my games. Stupid capitalism.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on September 07, 2006, 07:15:41 AM
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* Introduced a delay from proning to standing to help reduce exploiting
I wish they'd do the tougher thing and take out the code exploit that allows dolphin diving, rather than punish all players. Going prone is the valid tactic in this game, you just punished every good player, assholes. Maybe there isn't a delay proning to crouch? I tend to use the crouch key to leave prone, since it's easier to hit.Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: edlavallee on September 07, 2006, 10:49:17 AM
A better thing to do would be to tie jumping to the fatigue meter so that you can only jump a few times instead of bunnyhop ftw. I do so hate the dolphin dive (new term for me!) tactic as well.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 07, 2006, 11:33:57 AM
There are VERY few bunnyhoppers who get by me these days. I have learned to wait for them to land, fire, then wait for them to land again. They die in a hurry 99% of the time.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on September 07, 2006, 12:33:47 PM
A better thing to do would be to tie jumping to the fatigue meter so that you can only jump a few times instead of bunnyhop ftw. I do so hate the dolphin dive (new term for me!) tactic as well.
I like the dolphin divers. A quick grenade to the crotch takes the wind right outta their sails. (You can't shoot while you are jumping, so they can't hurt you.)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on September 07, 2006, 12:48:03 PM
They bug me, but not as much as being penalized for standing up. I've also learned how to cope with them for the most part.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on September 07, 2006, 04:46:30 PM
The new map is cool... but I wish people would actually tuen off vehicles! Just for kicks, hehe. Also, why dont any servers use Co-Op mode? It seems to be pretty dang cool to me!
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 07, 2006, 04:48:12 PM
Yeah, the new map would be A LOT of fun without vehicles. All kinds of fun alleys and places to snipe.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on September 08, 2006, 07:07:13 AM
Picked up Special Forces last night on the way home from work. Grappling hook is pretty nifty. I spawned in the turret of my SL's tank and he was pinned down by an AT in a building. I ran over, grappled up to a middle roof and knifed the punk :) Of course, the SF map I played on was mostly sniper heaven. I played the new map a little, my team couldn't break out of the uncap, it was total baserape. After 10 deaths with only two kills, I logged out and messed around with the SF stuff. Got one kill while flashbanged :)
I hope to get some play time in this week, I'm on vacation. But I'll be out of town for the bulk of the week. I just don't have the time to be a gamer these days. :cry:
I hope to get some play time in this week, I'm on vacation. But I'll be out of town for the bulk of the week. I just don't have the time to be a gamer these days. :cry:
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Hanzii on September 09, 2006, 02:41:34 PM
Just a quick note on unlocks.
Unlocks in BF2 and BF 2142 is not the same - you get your unlocks quickly in BF2142 and there's plenty of people with all 40 allready. I've played less than 8 hours total and have a fully kitted sniper.
Unlocks in BF2 and BF 2142 is not the same - you get your unlocks quickly in BF2142 and there's plenty of people with all 40 allready. I've played less than 8 hours total and have a fully kitted sniper.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on September 10, 2006, 08:15:26 AM
too fast then?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on September 10, 2006, 09:05:20 AM
I've decided I hate the new map. Either that or it's the fact that all the folks who had been playing the expansions are playing it, and the average rank is Lt. My k:d, which had finally gone a bit better than 1:1 is now 1:5. It's about that bad in SF, where more hardcore players are, too.
The game just isn't fun for casual players, since I loaded up SF and the new map, I've quit after about fifteen minutes, pissed all to hell because it's just, die, die die. My girlfriend keeps asking me: This is supposed to be fun, right? I love the game, I guess I'm just not hardcore enough to enjoy it.
I know, cry more, newb. Except I won't ever be anything but newb...these guys have double WAP's score and WAP is about 20x higher than I. I won't even get into the TS squads that are death incarnate, a TS squad where the lowest grunt is Lt? Sheesh. FInd a girl, guys :P
The game just isn't fun for casual players, since I loaded up SF and the new map, I've quit after about fifteen minutes, pissed all to hell because it's just, die, die die. My girlfriend keeps asking me: This is supposed to be fun, right? I love the game, I guess I'm just not hardcore enough to enjoy it.
I know, cry more, newb. Except I won't ever be anything but newb...these guys have double WAP's score and WAP is about 20x higher than I. I won't even get into the TS squads that are death incarnate, a TS squad where the lowest grunt is Lt? Sheesh. FInd a girl, guys :P
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Engels on September 10, 2006, 09:10:38 AM
Join War Rock. Plenty of newbsters there. Heck, even I have a positive kill:death ratio most games, and I'm someone who gets sweaty estremities when the words 'pack man' are spoken.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on September 10, 2006, 10:04:54 AM
Diving into SF after all the other people have had so many months to play it would be hard. I think I've only played the Warlord map online. There are so many nooks and crannies that you need to know about, people who have been playing for a while have a big advantage. I can't find too many low ping servers that run SF either, it doesn't seem very popular.
I don't think I like the new map much either, the choke points are too extreme, nothing but grenade spamming. I've also noticed that the MEC team almost always gets crushed, people on the bf2 boards have noted that too. I was playing the 64 player map and USMC actually won by taking over all the flags, three times in a row. I had never seen that even once on a 64 map before. MEC needs an uncap.
I have mixed emotions about the game too. It's quite exciting and often very fun but sometimes it is just so incredibly frustrating. I get really annoyed if I get killed a few times in a row from out of nowhere or spawn in a tank that is already on fire and explodes before I can get out. I shouldn't care so much about stats like K/D and yet I do. It stresses me out and yet I keep coming back for more. I'm going to go fire it up now.
I don't think I like the new map much either, the choke points are too extreme, nothing but grenade spamming. I've also noticed that the MEC team almost always gets crushed, people on the bf2 boards have noted that too. I was playing the 64 player map and USMC actually won by taking over all the flags, three times in a row. I had never seen that even once on a 64 map before. MEC needs an uncap.
I have mixed emotions about the game too. It's quite exciting and often very fun but sometimes it is just so incredibly frustrating. I get really annoyed if I get killed a few times in a row from out of nowhere or spawn in a tank that is already on fire and explodes before I can get out. I shouldn't care so much about stats like K/D and yet I do. It stresses me out and yet I keep coming back for more. I'm going to go fire it up now.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Jimbo on September 10, 2006, 12:24:46 PM
Just got my set of BF2 and BF2 SF for my computer this week and let my kid use my old account. I must be the exception to the rule, I have had a blast and do it all with pick up groups without any v.o.i.p. stuff. Heck, I showed some of the guys how to defend the first village/flag point on the new map, and we held it hard core till the end of the game (when we were getting steam rolled usually as MEC) and we almost won (went down to 6 tickets).
Made Lance Corpral and only have 2 unlocks... :? wierd but I thought I would have had more unlocks...didn't get any either for buying SF either
But it has been fun, heck I got my mine/explosive badge, engineer, pistol, and repair badge all in one game.
My new handle is scuffy1969, mostly play on the servers in the midwest, so are most of you using xfire to find each other in game?
Made Lance Corpral and only have 2 unlocks... :? wierd but I thought I would have had more unlocks...didn't get any either for buying SF either
But it has been fun, heck I got my mine/explosive badge, engineer, pistol, and repair badge all in one game.
My new handle is scuffy1969, mostly play on the servers in the midwest, so are most of you using xfire to find each other in game?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on September 10, 2006, 12:52:17 PM
I think you have to play one round in SF before the unlocks show up.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Merusk on September 10, 2006, 07:27:00 PM
Just a quick note on unlocks.
Unlocks in BF2 and BF 2142 is not the same - you get your unlocks quickly in BF2142 and there's plenty of people with all 40 allready. I've played less than 8 hours total and have a fully kitted sniper.
Unlocks in BF2 and BF 2142 is not the same - you get your unlocks quickly in BF2142 and there's plenty of people with all 40 allready. I've played less than 8 hours total and have a fully kitted sniper.
I'm having MMO Beta flashbacks.
You know where the guy comes by and says "Hey look how fast we level!" right before it goes live and the grind is slapped-in by reducing gains to 1/100 of their previous level as the community rep posts "Well, yeah, we had it turned up so you could all test everything. Of course we wanted a slower pace."
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Hanzii on September 16, 2006, 03:18:30 PM
Heh.
That could happen and in that case I'll join in the bitching.
Right now it's the fact that I disconnect before finishing a map 9 out of 10 games and that the first mapload takes 10+ minutes and I often CTD shortly after that's killing my enjoyment of this game
- the mech is however the best vehicle ever and those droptubes are fun.
That could happen and in that case I'll join in the bitching.
Right now it's the fact that I disconnect before finishing a map 9 out of 10 games and that the first mapload takes 10+ minutes and I often CTD shortly after that's killing my enjoyment of this game
- the mech is however the best vehicle ever and those droptubes are fun.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Jimbo on September 17, 2006, 11:33:57 AM
I have my pre-order unlocks and my veteran unlocks for BF 2142, both for my son and I accounts. Should be fun, he used to love tribes and tribes 2, too bad they didn't keep that line going...that was a fun Sci Fi team based game.
I have to say I'm having a lot of fun playing regular and SF BF2 still, heck with the new maps I'm playing more engineer on MEC and a sniper or AT as the USMC. I still think AA (all types, from the support weapons, AT, vehicle mounted MG's, and anti-air missles and vehicles) need a major boost. I unloaded 3 direct hits on an attach helio the other day and didn't make a dent. That and they need to make an air defense personel, one that carries a stinger missle and a M4 carbine. That and they need to give a long gun to the AT and engineer class, the shot guns are great, but the smg's aren't my favorite.
I have to say I'm having a lot of fun playing regular and SF BF2 still, heck with the new maps I'm playing more engineer on MEC and a sniper or AT as the USMC. I still think AA (all types, from the support weapons, AT, vehicle mounted MG's, and anti-air missles and vehicles) need a major boost. I unloaded 3 direct hits on an attach helio the other day and didn't make a dent. That and they need to make an air defense personel, one that carries a stinger missle and a M4 carbine. That and they need to give a long gun to the AT and engineer class, the shot guns are great, but the smg's aren't my favorite.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 18, 2006, 09:30:16 AM
Played Road to Jalalabad on an infantry only server last night. Wow. Very fun. Was hiding on top of a building as a support kit spamming grenades onto an enemy flag/staging area. Great fun was had by all until some sneaky medic climbed up the ladder and shock-paddled me :-P
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on September 27, 2006, 01:59:38 PM
Poking around on the widescreengamingforum for the Just Cause hack and noticed this thread (http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5412). In particular (for triple monitor):
(http://wsgfmedia.com/uploads/paddywak/screenshots/bf2/BF2-3840-T.jpg) (http://wsgfmedia.com/uploads/paddywak/screenshots/bf2/BF2-3840.jpg)
Check out that crazy fov compared to normal 4:3 aspect ratio:
(http://wsgfmedia.com/uploads/paddywak/screenshots/bf2/BF2-1280-T.jpg) (http://wsgfmedia.com/uploads/paddywak/screenshots/bf2/BF2-1280.jpg)
(http://wsgfmedia.com/uploads/paddywak/screenshots/bf2/BF2-3840-T.jpg) (http://wsgfmedia.com/uploads/paddywak/screenshots/bf2/BF2-3840.jpg)
Check out that crazy fov compared to normal 4:3 aspect ratio:
(http://wsgfmedia.com/uploads/paddywak/screenshots/bf2/BF2-1280-T.jpg) (http://wsgfmedia.com/uploads/paddywak/screenshots/bf2/BF2-1280.jpg)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 28, 2006, 03:33:06 PM
Doh! That is awesome! That would really help me when capping flags- I always feel so exposed and jumpy (with good reason).
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on September 29, 2006, 09:33:23 AM
I'm installing BF2 the Deluxe Edition right now ... wtf is up with the 5 discs to install it? Anyways, maybe I'll play some of this later tonight .. :)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 29, 2006, 10:39:45 AM
I am getting drunk tonight, so if I play tonight it will be late (and I will be cannon fodder).
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on September 29, 2006, 12:02:13 PM
I might log on just to stab Wayabvpar a few times as I realize I will never reach my next rank and I should just play to have fun rather then catass my stats.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 29, 2006, 12:13:15 PM
I have 17.5k points to my next unlock! And I really really want the last sniper rifle. How do you think I feel? :cry:
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Yoshimaru on September 29, 2006, 07:37:44 PM
Do you have to buy SF to get the second tier unlocks? or just go through all of the first tiers? I just need to unlock the support...
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on October 01, 2006, 10:21:38 AM
Do you have to buy SF to get the second tier unlocks? or just go through all of the first tiers? I just need to unlock the support...
No idear. Probably?
So what's everyone's nick on Bf2? Mine's "Viin". Original, huh?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 02, 2006, 09:56:45 AM
Mine is a giant secret. I will give you one hint, though- it is somewhere on this page in large green font :-D
As for the unlocks- I can't remember if I got free ones when I bought SF; right around the same time they revamped the rank system and I got like 3 or 4 all at once (it used to be REALLY grindy).
Amazingly, I am still having fun playing this game. I play 3-4 nights a week easily. The ragdoll physics really amused my over the weekend when I in a tank trying to kill an anti-tank infantry who kept hiding. I finally timed my shot right and got to see him leap 50 feet into the air, limbs flailing wildly.
As for the unlocks- I can't remember if I got free ones when I bought SF; right around the same time they revamped the rank system and I got like 3 or 4 all at once (it used to be REALLY grindy).
Amazingly, I am still having fun playing this game. I play 3-4 nights a week easily. The ragdoll physics really amused my over the weekend when I in a tank trying to kill an anti-tank infantry who kept hiding. I finally timed my shot right and got to see him leap 50 feet into the air, limbs flailing wildly.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on October 02, 2006, 11:16:09 AM
One of my favorite ones is to set some C4 on the ground at a corner, then detonate it after someone has come around and run past it. They get launched!
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on October 02, 2006, 12:17:29 PM
I had a great one where I was diving into cover by a flag just as artillery dropped on it and I went flying past a helicopter and then bounced off it on the way back down, not sure how high in the air, I'll just say 'wicked high' to be as accurate as possible. I have a lot of fun with ragdoll stuff playing a grenadier as much as I do, always guy blowing out of cover. I wish bodies persisted longer...
I think I got two unlocks when I bought SF.
I'm gruntzilla but I don't play much. Deep in Gothic II right now. I think we linked our stat pages earlier in the thread. I suck.
I think I got two unlocks when I bought SF.
I'm gruntzilla but I don't play much. Deep in Gothic II right now. I think we linked our stat pages earlier in the thread. I suck.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 02, 2006, 01:07:14 PM
Quote
I had a great one where I was diving into cover by a flag just as artillery dropped on it and I went flying past a helicopter and then bounced off it on the way back down, not sure how high in the air, I'll just say 'wicked high' to be as accurate as possible.
AWESOME! I hope the guys in the chopper saw you..that would make their day. The best I have seen was when Fur and I were sniping off a crane on the Kubra Dam map. Arty hit below us, and some poor SOB flew up to our eye level. We were both laughing our asses off on TS.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on October 02, 2006, 07:35:38 PM
I think I got two unlocks when I bought SF.
Hmm, my deluxe edition (with both BF2 and SF addon) doesn't seem to have anything unlocked. Do you only see the unlocks when playing SF not the regular BF2?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Zetleft on October 02, 2006, 10:50:20 PM
Play a round of SF to be able to unlock the SF guns in regular BF2. Some servers have SF guns locked so no one can choose them. Even if you don't have an SF gun unlocked you can loot the enemys... or friends. To unlock a SF gun like say the sniper rifle, you have to first do the regular unlock for that kit.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Bill on October 04, 2006, 02:28:06 PM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this so far, but go and grab Project Reality from www.realitymod.com it makes BF2 a really enjoyable experience, if you ask me. Much more enjoyable than any other online real-world themed FPS out there.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on October 05, 2006, 07:50:27 AM
(http://www.disobey.com/horror/posters_and_similar/downloads/mole.jpg)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Jimbo on October 06, 2006, 06:39:11 AM
I think most people don't realize that you don't get a free unlock just by installing SF, you still have to make rank up to lance corporal (500+ points) and then you get 2 unlocks per rank instead of just one. I don't know if the bonus packs give extra weapons to grab or not, have had too much fun playing on rubberduckie server and blowing stuff up on vanilla bf2. I still suck at the M95...I can be deadly with all the other sniper rifles, but that gun is giving me fits trying to use it. I still wish we had an air defense class, give me M4 carbine, pistol, stinger missile, and the knife and that would be a fun class to have...just make the stinger missile fire in a dumb fire mode when your on a non-flying map.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 06, 2006, 10:15:49 AM
Yeah, a hand-held antiaircraft missile would even things up a BUNCH.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Zetleft on October 06, 2006, 12:58:22 PM
Yeah, a hand-held antiaircraft missile would even things up a BUNCH.
Definately, hell didn't even frigging BF:V have some lock on anti air rocket class. It doesn't make much sense thinking about it but I do remember something like that.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on October 06, 2006, 02:11:57 PM
I was having a great time in BF:V a while back. I think if you remove the 'cutting edge' players BF becomes a much better game, less bunnyhopping and map sploiting.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on October 07, 2006, 11:32:52 AM
I think most people don't realize that you don't get a free unlock just by installing SF, you still have to make rank up to lance corporal (500+ points) and then you get 2 unlocks per rank instead of just one ...
Ah ok that must be it. I'm almost there.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on October 07, 2006, 10:04:30 PM
Man, what I wouldn't give for a hand-held stinger. Jets and copters ruin more fun they they provide, IMHO.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on October 07, 2006, 10:55:43 PM
Damn. I really get tired of hearing the jet complaints....And I'm not even a pilot.
Knocking a jet out of the sky is not rocket science....
Err...
I mean, it's really not that difficult. Just try it. Devote yourself to it. Just because you can't spray them down using your usual tactics doesn't mean they're overpowered. It means that you suck.
Point the anti air target about 2 plane lengths ahead of a jet and fire all your missles at once. You can hit them. Last I checked, you'll take them down in four shots. Even if you don't knock them down all the time, just having one guy playing the anti-air role will be a thorn in the side of the opposing team's strategy.
Secondly, it's not like your team doesn't have jets either. You have the opportunity to do the same thing as other pilots do.
Thirdly... If you can't use the existing anti-air units effectively (which are spread all over any given map), then stinger kits wouldn't help you a bit. You already have something not only better than stingers, but by virtue of their positioning, just as mobile as well.
Fourthly, you guys aren't taking into account what balances are in the game already. Air units have no cover whatsoever. Jets in particular require a lot of skill just to keep targets in sight, since they move so fast.
As for helicopters... I can't even imagine the problem there. Those things go down so quick it's not even funny. Unlike jets, helicopters are sitting ducks. You can take them down with one load of missles. And not only that, they're far more unstable. Even hitting them once will virtually take them out of a fight.
Knocking a jet out of the sky is not rocket science....
Err...
I mean, it's really not that difficult. Just try it. Devote yourself to it. Just because you can't spray them down using your usual tactics doesn't mean they're overpowered. It means that you suck.
Point the anti air target about 2 plane lengths ahead of a jet and fire all your missles at once. You can hit them. Last I checked, you'll take them down in four shots. Even if you don't knock them down all the time, just having one guy playing the anti-air role will be a thorn in the side of the opposing team's strategy.
Secondly, it's not like your team doesn't have jets either. You have the opportunity to do the same thing as other pilots do.
Thirdly... If you can't use the existing anti-air units effectively (which are spread all over any given map), then stinger kits wouldn't help you a bit. You already have something not only better than stingers, but by virtue of their positioning, just as mobile as well.
Fourthly, you guys aren't taking into account what balances are in the game already. Air units have no cover whatsoever. Jets in particular require a lot of skill just to keep targets in sight, since they move so fast.
As for helicopters... I can't even imagine the problem there. Those things go down so quick it's not even funny. Unlike jets, helicopters are sitting ducks. You can take them down with one load of missles. And not only that, they're far more unstable. Even hitting them once will virtually take them out of a fight.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: sinij on October 08, 2006, 07:23:21 AM
I'm a helicopter pilot in BF2 and let me tell - it takes two good people to get results out of it. If you are dominated on a map by helicopter - well if there wasn't helicopter to fly you would be dominated that round by people flying that helicopter anyways, just in a different ways.
It is very easy to make flying helicopter a pain in the ass - while single AA turret is lousy, two of them where people jump in last minute instead of sitting in them are deadly. RPGs are also effective but you need practice hitting flying things (tip: always aim higher). HMV turrets also very effective. M95 snipers work well - camp take-off site and kill pilot by headshot, if you do it while its in the air whole thing crashes. Other helicopter also work well - you should use laser-guided missile to 1-hit other helicopter. If there are planes on the map - just ram helicopter repeatedly (if you can't manage to shoot them down with A2A), its fairly easy to eject and ram and get 'suicides' for helicopter pilots.
Again, helicopter is a team machine and it takes team effort to kill it.
It is very easy to make flying helicopter a pain in the ass - while single AA turret is lousy, two of them where people jump in last minute instead of sitting in them are deadly. RPGs are also effective but you need practice hitting flying things (tip: always aim higher). HMV turrets also very effective. M95 snipers work well - camp take-off site and kill pilot by headshot, if you do it while its in the air whole thing crashes. Other helicopter also work well - you should use laser-guided missile to 1-hit other helicopter. If there are planes on the map - just ram helicopter repeatedly (if you can't manage to shoot them down with A2A), its fairly easy to eject and ram and get 'suicides' for helicopter pilots.
Again, helicopter is a team machine and it takes team effort to kill it.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Engels on October 08, 2006, 08:36:56 AM
I just played the BF2142 demo multiplayer. What is the big deal with it? It seems only marginally better than bf2, but the graphics aren't exactly awsome or anything.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on October 08, 2006, 09:02:32 AM
I stopped playing halfway through the beta of 2142. I used to be pretty excited about it but that quickly wore off when I got to actually play it. I think plain old bf2 is better.
Oh, and in-game ads suck, especially in futuristic settings.
As for the graphics, no they aren't any better. It's the exact same engine as bf2, this is more like a very elaborate mod than a new game. It even still has the same bugs that are in bf2, plus they added a whole bunch of new ones with the titan mode. By the middle of the beta only about 7% of the servers had games running because everyone had stopped playing due to the game breaking bugs. I hope those have been fixed but knowing Dice/EA...
Edit: And Stray, I don't know if you only played during some patch where missiles could actually do something against jets or if you were playing on a server where the pilots didn't know how to throttle to full speed or what. They are completely, totally worthless against jets. Jets move faster than the missiles, they are usually out of range before you even get a lock. And the very best target for jets are AA, as soon as they see someone in there they immediately bomb it. Everyone else knows that AA is a joke against jets.
Oh, and in-game ads suck, especially in futuristic settings.
As for the graphics, no they aren't any better. It's the exact same engine as bf2, this is more like a very elaborate mod than a new game. It even still has the same bugs that are in bf2, plus they added a whole bunch of new ones with the titan mode. By the middle of the beta only about 7% of the servers had games running because everyone had stopped playing due to the game breaking bugs. I hope those have been fixed but knowing Dice/EA...
Edit: And Stray, I don't know if you only played during some patch where missiles could actually do something against jets or if you were playing on a server where the pilots didn't know how to throttle to full speed or what. They are completely, totally worthless against jets. Jets move faster than the missiles, they are usually out of range before you even get a lock. And the very best target for jets are AA, as soon as they see someone in there they immediately bomb it. Everyone else knows that AA is a joke against jets.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on October 08, 2006, 10:05:00 AM
I haven't played regularly in awhile, but it wasn't like I was playing an "easier" version of the game. Everyone bitched about jets from the get go. They didn't listen to me then either, even when I posted and linked to my AA stats on this site.
....
Sure, jets move fast. That's why I said to lead them.
Besides, the problem with jets is not their speed, but their ability to drop decoys. And if you depend too much on the locking system and/or taking your time, you'll fall for that trap.
Then again, sometimes it's easier just to wait for them to drop decoys before you really attack.
Generally though, you should only get your locks for a split second, then lead them real quick, and fire off your missles at once. Not one at a time.
You'll need three or four hits to down them (depending on what other damage they've taken). If you hit them even once in that first barrage, they will, almost every single time, fly towards you head on (thus making it easier to target them). Fire all your missles again. Don't hesitate. Your missles will get to them quicker than the time they have to close in and bomb.
If you're on a map with ships, it's almost too easy. The ships' AA guns are far superior. And even if the fight is taking place mostly on land, and you're all alone out in the water, the jets always swing by your way.
[edit]
I'm sloppy today.
I'm sloppy every day.
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Sure, jets move fast. That's why I said to lead them.
Besides, the problem with jets is not their speed, but their ability to drop decoys. And if you depend too much on the locking system and/or taking your time, you'll fall for that trap.
Then again, sometimes it's easier just to wait for them to drop decoys before you really attack.
Generally though, you should only get your locks for a split second, then lead them real quick, and fire off your missles at once. Not one at a time.
You'll need three or four hits to down them (depending on what other damage they've taken). If you hit them even once in that first barrage, they will, almost every single time, fly towards you head on (thus making it easier to target them). Fire all your missles again. Don't hesitate. Your missles will get to them quicker than the time they have to close in and bomb.
If you're on a map with ships, it's almost too easy. The ships' AA guns are far superior. And even if the fight is taking place mostly on land, and you're all alone out in the water, the jets always swing by your way.
[edit]
I'm sloppy today.
I'm sloppy every day.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on October 08, 2006, 06:52:09 PM
I like flying jets and helicopters, but both are very fragile.
Since I suck at bombing, I usually spend all of my jet flying time taking out the opponents jets. This isn't hard, just takes a little bit of skill and practice. Some of the most fun I've had is fighting against another team that has a couple of good dog fighters.
Helicopters are a pain.. I like flying them but they are very easy to crash. They are also very weak in the armor department - the machine guns mounted on trucks can take me down to half armor before I have a chance to get out of the way (unless I'm already moving at a good clip). And anyone who knows how to fly a jet even a little can take you out right away - I usually hear the warning but by then it's too late, flares don't always help.
I will also play AA on the ground, using the mounted AA missiles. These work awesome on helicopters. Not so well on jets (as mentioned, takes 4 hits and they are usually gone by the time you reload after the first 2), but it most definantely gets them out of the area... sitting in one for more than a couple mins is suicide though, so you gotta jump out and run away while waiting for him to come back around.
(And I've been playing most nights for the last couple of days, so this is on the most recent patches).
Since I suck at bombing, I usually spend all of my jet flying time taking out the opponents jets. This isn't hard, just takes a little bit of skill and practice. Some of the most fun I've had is fighting against another team that has a couple of good dog fighters.
Helicopters are a pain.. I like flying them but they are very easy to crash. They are also very weak in the armor department - the machine guns mounted on trucks can take me down to half armor before I have a chance to get out of the way (unless I'm already moving at a good clip). And anyone who knows how to fly a jet even a little can take you out right away - I usually hear the warning but by then it's too late, flares don't always help.
I will also play AA on the ground, using the mounted AA missiles. These work awesome on helicopters. Not so well on jets (as mentioned, takes 4 hits and they are usually gone by the time you reload after the first 2), but it most definantely gets them out of the area... sitting in one for more than a couple mins is suicide though, so you gotta jump out and run away while waiting for him to come back around.
(And I've been playing most nights for the last couple of days, so this is on the most recent patches).
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Tale on October 09, 2006, 02:32:34 AM
the machine guns mounted on trucks can take me down to half armor before I have a chance to get out of the way
Yeah. I have never bothered learning to fly properly in BF2 even though I have a decent joystick. I enjoy the ground game too much. A regular part of my ground game is taking out helicopters with those truck-mounted machine guns. It's exciting to do - I know good places to park my truck so they are unlikely to see me, then I wait "till I can see the whites of their eyes" (until the chopper is too near to escape fast) and then I open up with the big gun. The pilot can't really tell where the bullets are coming from, flies around in a panic trying to get out of the way, then either dies or has to fly home for repairs. If a Harrier is flown too slowly I can also take it out with the truck-mounted guns.
Therefore on public servers I tend to lack respect for pilots on my own team. Wannabe pilots who queue up at the airstrip teamkilling each other for access to the next jet are scum. They steal my truck to get to the airstrip, taking away my anti-aircraft weapon and hurting their team. They die 20 times to the guy that strafes the airstrip, then steal my truck again. And they never capture or defend flags, which is the essence of the game. If I'm on a team of wannabe pilots, I end up cursing them and frustrating myself with solo defenses of vital flags, and being overrun by the 30 enemies who are working together on the ground and not queuing for planes like my team.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on October 09, 2006, 08:40:57 AM
I play every day, and I have to say Sky, you might be underestimating the effect of jets and OVERestimating the strength of anti-air stuff. The only time I have ever taken a jet out with the stingers is if it is not at full strength. I have never gotten off two salvo's (4 missiles) one one jet. Every decent pilot has all AA sites memorized and can be there and bomb the shit out of it inside of 15 seconds. Chaff from both air vehicles is ridiculously effective. I have better success against helo's, but only marginally.
And yes, there are WAY too many people who sit aroudn the airfield bickering about who is going to fly next. Its not uncommon to see 4 to 6 players camping the airfield waiting for 2 jets and one Apache. As a commander, this is frustrating as hell, and I have even suffered a weak moment and arty'd my own airfield out fo frustration (to get the enemy Spec Ops guy who was sneaking around, of course).
I love the big maps, and have learned to just accept it. In my bf2combat.net clan, I am pushing hard to get our air wing up to speed to keep the enemy air off our backs. Alltogether though, I have fun, and thats all that matters.
And yes, there are WAY too many people who sit aroudn the airfield bickering about who is going to fly next. Its not uncommon to see 4 to 6 players camping the airfield waiting for 2 jets and one Apache. As a commander, this is frustrating as hell, and I have even suffered a weak moment and arty'd my own airfield out fo frustration (to get the enemy Spec Ops guy who was sneaking around, of course).
I love the big maps, and have learned to just accept it. In my bf2combat.net clan, I am pushing hard to get our air wing up to speed to keep the enemy air off our backs. Alltogether though, I have fun, and thats all that matters.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: stray on October 09, 2006, 09:25:14 AM
I'm Stray, not Sky ;)
I'm not under or overestimating either one. Nothing I'm saying is meant to downplay jets. Sure, they tough, but I know that I have and can knock them down.
I think you're the one downplaying things. Saying jets are tricky is one thing, and I can almost understand that......But you've extended your gripe to helicopters as well. You make AA sound completely worthless -- And it's bullshit. Helicopters are like sitting ducks. I've had matches where I've knocked down choppers one after another after another. And unlike jets, they're more unstable when hit. Sometimes I don't even have to knock them down completely because of this.
I'm not under or overestimating either one. Nothing I'm saying is meant to downplay jets. Sure, they tough, but I know that I have and can knock them down.
I think you're the one downplaying things. Saying jets are tricky is one thing, and I can almost understand that......But you've extended your gripe to helicopters as well. You make AA sound completely worthless -- And it's bullshit. Helicopters are like sitting ducks. I've had matches where I've knocked down choppers one after another after another. And unlike jets, they're more unstable when hit. Sometimes I don't even have to knock them down completely because of this.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 09, 2006, 01:04:13 PM
AA works fine on helicopters, especially since the patch when they dialed down the hit points in the choppers. Jets are still nearly invulnerable to the AA emplacements. As Akkori said, any decent pilot has all their locations memorized. Add in the fact that they can get lined up and moving toward it at full speed, appear on the horizon, and kill the emplacement before the emplacement can lock makes it pretty dicey. Also- the emplacements light up with a giant fucking 'Shoot Me' sign whenever you sit in them.
I have had much more success with the AA vehicles, but still die far more often than I get kills. Shoulder-fired AA would keep the pilots from just lazily flying the same route, bombing the AA back into the Stone Age 4 milliseconds after it respawns from the previous bombing. There is a reason the good pilots have like 30-1 K/D ratios on air maps. That is just clownshoes.
I have had much more success with the AA vehicles, but still die far more often than I get kills. Shoulder-fired AA would keep the pilots from just lazily flying the same route, bombing the AA back into the Stone Age 4 milliseconds after it respawns from the previous bombing. There is a reason the good pilots have like 30-1 K/D ratios on air maps. That is just clownshoes.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on October 10, 2006, 09:32:59 AM
And yes, there are WAY too many people who sit aroudn the airfield bickering about who is going to fly next. Its not uncommon to see 4 to 6 players camping the airfield waiting for 2 jets and one Apache. As a commander, this is frustrating as hell, and I have even suffered a weak moment and arty'd my own airfield out fo frustration (to get the enemy Spec Ops guy who was sneaking around, of course).
Yah I hate that. Even though I like flying around, I won't sit around waiting for a chopper or jet - I'm almost always in spec ops gear so I'll go have some fun shooting bad guys. I switch games if there's more than 1 or 2 people just sitting at the airbase waiting for a flyer. On air carriers people are really bad about that, but I hate driving those boats too.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: sinij on October 10, 2006, 11:10:34 AM
My favorite thing to do is to fly transport helicopter to carrier with a sniper kit and M95, parachute out, boobytrap ladders and sit there sniping pilots that get into planes and helicopters. Sniping pilot that just got into helicopter or plane is SO EASY.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on October 10, 2006, 12:27:23 PM
When I was in a 1942 clan, I'd spend entire matches just kicking and teamkilling planetards (airstrip campers) and banning them if they returned and camptarded again. Toward the end that was more fun than playing, some days.
I don't have problems with aircraft, they just don't impact the ground game much. Choppers can if there's a good team flying, but they're also more vulnerable. Jets a joke, a way to keep armor from being too overpowered. They contribute very little for the amount of people involved (camptards) and I generally ignore them. They fly over, big booms, run in and cap flag and duck into cover again.
I don't have problems with aircraft, they just don't impact the ground game much. Choppers can if there's a good team flying, but they're also more vulnerable. Jets a joke, a way to keep armor from being too overpowered. They contribute very little for the amount of people involved (camptards) and I generally ignore them. They fly over, big booms, run in and cap flag and duck into cover again.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: sinij on October 10, 2006, 03:30:48 PM
Planes, especially 2-seaters, can be devastating. Good team that watches flags and knows how to not only bomb 'locks' but also bomb areas are plain simply deadly. I have seen maps won by excelent pilot with competent bomber making it very hard to cap any flags.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 10, 2006, 03:49:58 PM
Speaking of- can anyone direct me to a decent tutorial for using the LGBs? I get lucky every once in a while and get a few kills, but it seems to be independent of any input I give it :-D
I have never gotten my joystick to work, so I don't fly, but I like to be a bomber (in planes) or a gunner (in choppers). I am reasonably good in choppers, but still working on the planes bit.
I have never gotten my joystick to work, so I don't fly, but I like to be a bomber (in planes) or a gunner (in choppers). I am reasonably good in choppers, but still working on the planes bit.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on October 10, 2006, 07:53:37 PM
LGBs just go where you point them. So you have to keep the reticle on the target.
Bf2 doesn't have a buddy/friend system does it? How do you find out what server folks are playing on?
Bf2 doesn't have a buddy/friend system does it? How do you find out what server folks are playing on?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Yoshimaru on October 10, 2006, 11:23:48 PM
X-Fire?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Zetleft on October 11, 2006, 01:22:26 AM
X-Fire?
Yeah, pretty much. And I log into the f13 ts server when I play but its usually empty.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on October 11, 2006, 07:25:25 AM
Haven't played since I got SF (when the new BF2 map was released) and got spanked to fuck and back. Got into Gothic 2 and now CoV, but BF2 is always a good in betweener game.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on October 11, 2006, 05:49:42 PM
http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/bf2/BattleField_2.html (http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/bf2/BattleField_2.html)
Try this site...
The guys in my clan all use the same pre-name tag, so it finds everyone in the group. But you can search for names too. I tried Xfire, but I dont like having anything running in the background that I dont *have* to have.
Try this site...
The guys in my clan all use the same pre-name tag, so it finds everyone in the group. But you can search for names too. I tried Xfire, but I dont like having anything running in the background that I dont *have* to have.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on October 11, 2006, 06:46:20 PM
That's a cool website. Maybe we should all wear an F13 tag?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 12, 2006, 12:02:36 PM
We could start an F13 clan I suppose...so we can get pwned together!
How long were you on the server before you joined my squad last night, Viin? I saw your name as commander and did a doubletake, and then you joined me the next round. Nice flying in the F-15, btw! My goal is to get all the aircraft medals and ribbons without ever actually piloiting =P
Had one of those 'THIS is why I game' moments last night. Defending the Hotel in Sharqi peninsula. Heard a sniper firing from the building across the street (nearest the road/water). I went around the back side of the building, and saw him laying there, sniping around the corner. At first I thought I would just knife him, but I decided on a more amusing way. I rolled a grenade to him PERFECTLY- it rolled about a foot in front of his face. Not sure if he actually saw it or just heard it, but watching him leap to his feet in a futile attempt to get away and then getting fragged made my entire night. I wish I had a battle recording of it...HILARIOUS.
How long were you on the server before you joined my squad last night, Viin? I saw your name as commander and did a doubletake, and then you joined me the next round. Nice flying in the F-15, btw! My goal is to get all the aircraft medals and ribbons without ever actually piloiting =P
Had one of those 'THIS is why I game' moments last night. Defending the Hotel in Sharqi peninsula. Heard a sniper firing from the building across the street (nearest the road/water). I went around the back side of the building, and saw him laying there, sniping around the corner. At first I thought I would just knife him, but I decided on a more amusing way. I rolled a grenade to him PERFECTLY- it rolled about a foot in front of his face. Not sure if he actually saw it or just heard it, but watching him leap to his feet in a futile attempt to get away and then getting fragged made my entire night. I wish I had a battle recording of it...HILARIOUS.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on October 12, 2006, 12:18:39 PM
I wasn't on too long before I took the commander spot, maybe 15 mins.
Some nights I have a lot of fun playing, other nights I get pissed off because nothing is working for me and some stupid admin kicks me because I accidently rammed a helicopter while I was strafing it in an F18. Sheesh.
Where do we setup a clan at? Or a way to add a tag to your name without creating a new account?
Some nights I have a lot of fun playing, other nights I get pissed off because nothing is working for me and some stupid admin kicks me because I accidently rammed a helicopter while I was strafing it in an F18. Sheesh.
Where do we setup a clan at? Or a way to add a tag to your name without creating a new account?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 12, 2006, 12:39:16 PM
You can add a tag to your handle at the login screen (there is a blank above your login name). I don't know if there is any registration or anything for being a clan.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on October 14, 2006, 07:51:12 PM
That website just tracks the account nicknames I think. So there is no need to set up an official "clan" to use it. Sorry if that was not what you were aksing, heheh. I just happen to be in one (bf2combat.net) and we use it to see who is playing public servers so we can join them there. The game is a LOT more fun when you know that all the guys around you on the clan tournament server are mature. Jets are still a apin in the ass, but at least the ground game is better too.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: climbjtree on October 15, 2006, 01:04:19 PM
I play a lot of Point of Existence, but I'd be willing to play a lot more vanilla BF2 if you guys want to get a group together to play. Squads with a lot of teamwork make me love the game. Squads with no teamwork make me not want to play so much.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on October 16, 2006, 08:20:58 AM
When I was playing in a clan, bf1942 was an entirely different game. Incredibly better, I give clan play a 100%, I love it. Pub play is about 50%, I can barely stand to play most days.
Just spawning at the airfield and being able to jump in a plane (I was a pilot for the clan) was nice. Having coordinated tactics on a 16v16 game is transcendent.
Just spawning at the airfield and being able to jump in a plane (I was a pilot for the clan) was nice. Having coordinated tactics on a 16v16 game is transcendent.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 16, 2006, 05:10:31 PM
Kills
Total & Streak 12,000 / 31
Per Minute 0.478
Per Round 7.609
Deaths
Total & Streak 12,136 / 17
Per Minute 0.483
Per Round 7.696
Arrrgh SOOOO close! I have heard that kills with arty count here (as global kills), even though they don't count for scoring purposes. Can anyone confirm or deny? I will eventually get to 1:1 anyway, but commander would be a quick way to do it.
Total & Streak 12,000 / 31
Per Minute 0.478
Per Round 7.609
Deaths
Total & Streak 12,136 / 17
Per Minute 0.483
Per Round 7.696
Arrrgh SOOOO close! I have heard that kills with arty count here (as global kills), even though they don't count for scoring purposes. Can anyone confirm or deny? I will eventually get to 1:1 anyway, but commander would be a quick way to do it.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Akkori on October 16, 2006, 06:30:20 PM
Here ya go...
(http://www.bf2player.com/index.php?page=stats&account=35064055" target=_blank)
(http://www.bf2player.com/index.php?page=stats&account=35064055" target=_blank)Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: climbjtree on October 16, 2006, 09:47:25 PM
I saw a lot of this last night:
WayAbvPar [G3] [f13] climbjtree
WayAbvPar [G3] [f13] climbjtree
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on October 17, 2006, 07:27:41 AM
Heh.
(http://www.bf2player.com/sig/45064888-486.png) (http://www.bf2player.com/index.php?page=stats&account=45064888)
(http://www.bf2player.com/sig/45064888-486.png) (http://www.bf2player.com/index.php?page=stats&account=45064888)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on October 17, 2006, 07:57:16 AM
(http://www.bf2player.com/sig/45465739-486.png) (http://www.bf2player.com/index.php?page=stats&account=45465739)
Doubleheh.
Doubleheh.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: rk47 on October 17, 2006, 08:34:43 AM
(http://www.bf2player.com/sig/44724787-486.png) (http://www.bf2player.com/index.php?page=stats&account=44724787)
Couldn't get knife badge :( so no promotion.
Couldn't get knife badge :( so no promotion.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on October 17, 2006, 08:36:37 AM
I think this puts any doubts I am a casual gamer to rest :P
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: sinij on October 17, 2006, 08:53:33 AM
WHat is IP of f13 BF2 server so I can log in a nd pwn you with unfair helicopters.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: sinij on October 17, 2006, 08:54:43 AM
Couldn't get knife badge :( so no promotion.
Try knifing people. I got gold badge by just shanking snipers.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 17, 2006, 10:12:10 AM
(http://www.bf2player.com/sig/44724787-486.png) (http://www.bf2player.com/index.php?page=stats&account=44724787)
Couldn't get knife badge :( so no promotion.
Couldn't get knife badge :( so no promotion.
Find a Pistols/Knives only server and play for a few rounds... you should be able to get all the knife kills you want.
Quote
WayAbvPar [G3] [f13] climbjtree
LOL! I saw the F13 tag and was wondering if I was hallucinating. I will add that to my name next time I play (if I remember!).
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Furiously on October 17, 2006, 01:13:21 PM
(http://www.bf2player.com/sig/44724787-486.png) (http://www.bf2player.com/index.php?page=stats&account=44724787)
Couldn't get knife badge :( so no promotion.
Couldn't get knife badge :( so no promotion.
Nice K:D ratio there. Especially in a tank :)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on October 17, 2006, 01:44:28 PM
I'll use the F13 tag from now on, so hopefully we can all hookup some night.
Has anyone played 2142? I played for about an hour - the titan conquest mode is an interesting idea, but I wasn't overly impressed with everything else.
Fear my KD:
(http://www.bf2player.com/sig/43644987-486.png) (http://www.bf2player.com/index.php?page=stats&account=43644987)
Has anyone played 2142? I played for about an hour - the titan conquest mode is an interesting idea, but I wasn't overly impressed with everything else.
Fear my KD:
(http://www.bf2player.com/sig/43644987-486.png) (http://www.bf2player.com/index.php?page=stats&account=43644987)
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Zetleft on October 17, 2006, 10:37:18 PM
(http://www3.bf2player.com/sig/cache/44678776-486.png)
Yeah I die alot big woop wanna fight about it.
Yeah I die alot big woop wanna fight about it.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: sinij on November 19, 2006, 08:18:29 PM
What is going on? I decided to play some BF2, load it up and all my favorite servers tell me I have old version. Fine. I load 1.3 to 1.4. Tells me 'must have 1.3', fine I load full 1.4 patch, it does its thing. I load a game and servers STILL tell me I have older version. Can someone explain me WTF is going on? What is the latest version and WTF 1.4 full patch isn't doing it. Reinstall whole game? If so how can I backup my key settings?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Miasma on November 20, 2006, 06:29:11 AM
I haven't played in a long time but there was a 1.41 patch (http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102581) a few days ago, maybe that's the problem. You might want to get it from fileplanet or some other site, the EA updater kind of sucks. Apparently it's half a gig for some reason...
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Tale on November 20, 2006, 12:06:25 PM
Yeah that 1.41 patch pissed me off, too. There was no pop-up box on login announcing it. So I was like you, looking at red server names with the wrong version and had to manually go looking for the patch on the web. Then I discovered there was no incremental patch, only the full 1.0 => 1.41 half-gig version.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on November 20, 2006, 12:56:28 PM
No incremental? Arg.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on November 20, 2006, 02:51:41 PM
Yah thats lame. Nothing told me I was out of date either - but all my Favorites were red though there were still some non-Favorites I could have played on.
Btw, if you are playing make sure you set your tag to F13 so I freakin' tell you are online! I've only ever seen WayAbvPar and no one at all recently.
Btw, if you are playing make sure you set your tag to F13 so I freakin' tell you are online! I've only ever seen WayAbvPar and no one at all recently.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: sinij on November 20, 2006, 03:16:38 PM
Ok, I will bite. How do I look for other people online? I know you guys use some app for that, linky?
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Tale on November 20, 2006, 04:56:25 PM
Yah thats lame. Nothing told me I was out of date either - but all my Favorites were red though there were still some non-Favorites I could have played on.
I think it's a case of assuming all their players will read what they post on their website. Someone decided to leave the in-game popup as advertising spam for BF2142, so there's no help. A percentage of people will just think "can't get the game to work" and stop playing BF2.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on November 20, 2006, 05:28:06 PM
Ok, I will bite. How do I look for other people online? I know you guys use some app for that, linky?
I use this link:
http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=F13&type=player&game=bf2 (http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=F13&type=player&game=bf2)
I bookmarked it and anytime I want to see if anyone with F13 in their name is playing I hit that page up.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on November 21, 2006, 08:46:04 AM
I haven't played since I was ruthlessly destroyed when I bought special forces.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on November 21, 2006, 12:38:12 PM
536 mb patch with no gameplay changes at all. WTF?
I am not sure if it was the patch or not, but my performance took a dip after installing it. I probably fucked up my video settings (GOD FORBID THE FUCKING GAME REMEMBER THEM THROUGH THE PATCH) or something.
I have been playing a lot of :nda: lately, but I am itching to snipe some folks soon.
I am not sure if it was the patch or not, but my performance took a dip after installing it. I probably fucked up my video settings (GOD FORBID THE FUCKING GAME REMEMBER THEM THROUGH THE PATCH) or something.
I have been playing a lot of :nda: lately, but I am itching to snipe some folks soon.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Sky on November 21, 2006, 12:47:02 PM
EA sucks and whatnot. Not remembering settings is retarded.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: Viin on November 21, 2006, 12:51:42 PM
Must be some new DRM system.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: squirrel on November 21, 2006, 02:29:42 PM
I've been playing this recently primarily due to a mod called "Project Reality" (sorry no link, am on my Treo). Basically this mod tries to remove any 'gamey' FPS mechanics and make a more simulation type experience. They've added a tonne of equipment and different nationality's (eg. British units). Of course due to the EA BF2 ranking fiasco you don't get rank for mod games but I couldn't care less about that anyway.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: geldonyetich on November 22, 2006, 10:43:08 AM
I've noticed an issue in both BF2 and in the BF2142 beta where I'm playing on a server just fine, then it loads the next map and all of a sudden I'm ejected to the server selection screen with a, "This server does not allow you to play with a modified client" message. My client isn't modified at all, it's a fresh install all patched up and everything - it was enough to play the game on the same server in the last round. If I had to guess, I'd say that Punkbuster is figuring I've got something installed that's altering the game, but I'd consider installing a cheating program some kind of unholy sacrilege so that's not it.
Title: Re: BF2: This game still fun?
Post by: WayAbvPar on November 30, 2006, 03:03:16 PM
Anyone having frame rate issues after the latest patch? I have monkeyed with my video settings, but I still get major choppiness/slowdown whenever I turn more than 60 degrees in a hurry. It is bad enough that I have temporarily shelved BF2 in favor of some stuff that still runs...