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Title: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: HaemishM on September 01, 2005, 09:20:49 AM
I didn't know vapor could write press releases (http://www.f13.net/index2.php?subaction=showfull&id=1125591702&archive=&start_from=&ucat=13&).


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Toast on September 01, 2005, 09:31:25 AM
Zombie phantomware is roaming the streets of Europe!

I assume this is an effort to solicit more investment dollars to keep paying salaries of deadweight suits.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Sky on September 01, 2005, 09:53:05 AM
Quote
Meanwhile, that keyboard still looks like the sweet nectar of the gods
As someone with almost 2 years of pc gaming from the sofa under my belt, I disagree. I've never liked the look of it, but logistically, the angle is way too steep, you'd get severe wrist ache because of the angle. I have to keep mine flat on my lap to avoid that, it's done wonders for my touch typing (which isn't saying much).

Also, the mouse is a bit too centered on the lap, it's nice letting the hand fall naturally to your side, which is where my mouse sits.

Oh...and it has a wire. Wires BAD.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Yegolev on September 01, 2005, 10:11:10 AM
Are we sure that isn't Adam Corolla?


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: WindupAtheist on September 01, 2005, 12:46:22 PM
It looks like a VIC-20 attached to a George Foreman grill.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 01, 2005, 12:51:40 PM
It looks like a VIC-20 attached to a George Foreman grill.

As apt a description as we are ever likely to see. Well done.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: WindupAtheist on September 01, 2005, 01:00:11 PM
Except I could play games on a VIC-20.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Llava on September 01, 2005, 06:56:04 PM
Holy crap.

It's... solid.  It's really there.  He's holding it.  Somehow, I get the feeling that it wasn't built, so much as summoned into existence through a bloody ritual.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: WindupAtheist on September 01, 2005, 09:48:09 PM
I assume there's a backstory to this thing that I'm missing?


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Trippy on September 01, 2005, 09:59:40 PM
Search on "Infinium":

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=1603.0
http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=1817.0
http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=3377.0


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Roac on September 02, 2005, 06:50:10 AM
Holy crap.

It's... solid.  It's really there.  He's holding it. 

Yeah, he's holding it.  Not playing it.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: WindupAtheist on September 02, 2005, 09:23:14 AM
Let me be what must be the billionth person to say "a console is at steak!"


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Merusk on September 02, 2005, 09:25:41 AM
Holy crap.

It's... solid.  It's really there.  He's holding it. 

Yeah, he's holding it.  Not playing it.

Yeah, welcome to the wonders of extruded polystyrene or milled poly foam or MDF.  Amazing what those industrual design majors in college could do with that stuff for mock-ups.  If it's not plugged in and playing, that's all it is.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: HaemishM on September 02, 2005, 12:00:26 PM
One would actually have to have a service, with game publishers providing actual games on said service, for him to actually be playing it.

After they manage to custom fit the obviously not-going-to-fit standard PC components into that flat Pong-machine looking POS, the price will likely be $700.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: WindupAtheist on September 02, 2005, 12:42:03 PM
After they manage to custom fit the obviously not-going-to-fit standard PC components into that flat Pong-machine looking POS, the price will likely be $700.

This strikes me as being akin to saying "Pfft, deluded fanboys, Dawn is going to SUCK when it comes out!"


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Llava on September 02, 2005, 01:03:03 PM
Oh I didn't say it actually WORKS.  Just that he's holding a solid one- until now I believe all we've seen are ultra-sleek 3D renders.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Venkman on September 03, 2005, 09:37:51 AM
At E3 2004 I played it. They were running an FPS, iirc Unreal Tournament 2004. The hardware is functional and the keyboard doesn't actually suck. In fact, the angle of the base and the swivel nature makes it entirely conducive to lap-play while using a mouse. Basically, Phantom's problems have not really been about hardware.

It's been about the business model, which to date, has been a pipe dream they haven't seem to be able to sell to anyone. Can't say I'm surprised. With console games outselling PC ones somewhere on the order of 10 to 1, making the 10bil video games industry dominated by them, signing on to deliver PC games in a rental model just doesn't have the allure. Worse, Infinium is not a huge content provider like Microsoft or Sony, but rather just a middleman that, to some, looks like little more than a money grab a few years too late. They're basically not offering anything besides a method to extract some extra cash and royalty revenue.

After so much time trying to sell this nigh unsellable concept, I'd personally drop the bad idea and chase something more compelling, like selling ad space in games or RMTing or something. The company certainly seems suited for that sort of thinking.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: schild on September 03, 2005, 02:40:23 PM
THey should just license the keyboard and mouse for the 360.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Shockeye on September 03, 2005, 03:06:23 PM
THey should just license the keyboard and mouse for the 360.

Except USB keyboards only work for text input on the 360, no game control.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: schild on September 03, 2005, 03:07:20 PM
THey should just license the keyboard and mouse for the 360.

Except USB keyboards only work for text input on the 360, no game control.

I think that'll change.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Shockeye on September 03, 2005, 03:17:28 PM
Here's your keyboard. (http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000040052434/)


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: schild on September 03, 2005, 03:22:50 PM
Here's your keyboard. (http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000040052434/)

Neg, you can't make me angry on a Saturday, which is different from every other day of the week.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Azazel on September 03, 2005, 05:32:19 PM
Here's your keyboard. (http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000040052434/)

The Jaguar Lives!



Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Venkman on September 03, 2005, 06:26:05 PM
Here's your keyboard. (http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000040052434/)
Heh. For size reference, triple the width of a Blackberry and double the height (assuming thumb keys). Now try and imagine using the analog controls :P


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: HaemishM on September 04, 2005, 11:51:07 AM
That "keyboard" attachment looks more gay than Manginelves.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Evangolis on September 08, 2005, 10:55:50 AM
Perhaps I am mistaken, but aren't all consoles effectively loss-leaders, with the profit being in sales of software?  Given that, how do these people continue to get funds for a vapor product in an unprofitable product class, while people with real game designs can't get funding for MMOs, a class that has shown at least the possibility of a profitable outcome?

Nezt week: Why Do Fools Fall In Love?


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Yegolev on September 08, 2005, 11:01:43 AM
Given that, how do these people continue to get funds for a vapor product in an unprofitable product class, while people with real game designs can't get funding for MMOs, a class that has shown at least the possibility of a profitable outcome?

Because people keep creating and contributing to threads about a console that acknowledges its phantom status with its very name.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Sky on September 08, 2005, 11:21:44 AM
Perhaps I am mistaken, but aren't all consoles effectively loss-leaders, with the profit being in sales of software?  Given that, how do these people continue to get funds for a vapor product in an unprofitable product class, while people with real game designs can't get funding for MMOs, a class that has shown at least the possibility of a profitable outcome?
(http://www.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/2f/250px-P.t.barnum.jpg)


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: thing_bob on November 08, 2005, 05:28:38 AM
the world will come full circle...
when this: http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/fe/ee/gameHardwareClassicConsolesAllNintendo_VirtualBoy-resized200.jpg
came out it looked hot shit... and we all know where that went.
i see no reason that the phantom should be any less of a flop... plus the guy in the pic holding it looks like an asshole


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Sky on November 08, 2005, 07:02:57 AM
Well.

You're off to a good start, son.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Samwise on November 08, 2005, 09:44:58 AM
Wow.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: schild on November 08, 2005, 10:24:36 AM
What the fuck is that smell?


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Mesozoic on November 08, 2005, 12:31:28 PM
I have the bad feeling that the av pic is really him, too.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Samwise on November 08, 2005, 12:32:03 PM
What the fuck is that smell?

I don't know, but I don't like the way it's looking at me.


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Sky on November 08, 2005, 01:36:19 PM
I have the bad feeling that the av pic is really him, too.
Yes, that's me.

Oh, you meant the chap in the dapper chapeau?


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Signe on November 08, 2005, 02:16:45 PM
He's an adorable little fella!  He looks very young and he is obiviously from Soprano Land.

Sheesh, you guys are so mean!


Title: Re: Phantom Console Appears in Europe, Says "OooOooooO"
Post by: Mesozoic on November 09, 2005, 11:30:00 AM
Relax hon, it had to be a grief account....the caption under his av in his profile says "My sexy pic," and thats just too funny to be real.