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Here's Boss Hogg's Blog. (http://dukesounds.com/)


And, evidently, not a fan of Jessica Simpson. Consarnit!

(http://dukesounds.com/pitchers/daisy_duke_jessica_simpson.jpg)

Wow. Just... wow.

I'd still hit it.

So would I!  Have you seen that video of her, bopping around in those shorts and boots??  Shoooooot, boydoggie!

Well, yeah.  I'm sure Boss Hogg would as well.

Regrettably, I have only seen screencaps. I shall endeavor to right that injustice with all due haste.

There's a decent res divx version out there. Or that's what they tell me.

I thought the car wash scene was a bit gratuitous.

She was still hot.

Wow - for $32k I could have my own General Lee.

You could also get a superior late-60's pony car also for $32k. A very Nice one at that.

And for a few grand more, you can get a 2007 (or 2008?) SVT Shelby GT500.

Of you could get a modern car for $32k.  I am tired of driving old cars.  Gimme convenience and luxury... and working doors.

Edited cause I suck.

I'll take the 67 for $32k

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/lonestar627/Misc/196720Corvette20Stingray20Black2006.jpg)

*Yeah right*

Yum...Yes please.

The whole fucking video was gratuitious, especially the music, which made a cheesy song shitty. It's the kind of video you watch with the sound muted.

Bah it has something approaching decent lines but I want something with balls that sounds like King Kong in heat.

(http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/Cars/GTO-1970/GTO-1970-31.jpg)

Too many of today's muscle has the horse but they sound like vacuum cleaners.  HEPA-compliant vacuums that apologize when they belch.

I want a car, not a boat.  :-P

And if you don't like the way the stock exhaust sounds, replace it.

Also, I hope you are not confusing "ricers" with "today's muscle."

One person's boat is another's long, sleek, and macho.  With a racing suspension their's nothing slushy about the handling.

The GT has the lines but it's stubby.  Even so it visually beats out the travesty that Pontiac calls their current Ge.. Gee... gawd I can't bring myself to even say it.

(http://www.pontiac.com/gto/images/enlarge_image100.jpg)

Disgusting.

I agree that the Pontiac is a travesty.

It's supposed to be a premium model. It looks like a standard GrandPrix, mostly.

Sports cars don't use the same fucking bodies as daily driver family cars for a reason....




Because they are ugly.

If prototype cars ever see the light of day, my dream car is the Jaguar F-Type.

(http://www.volny.cz/autosalony/zeneva2000/F-type/F-type.jpg)

All glass roof? Nearly no blind spot? Yes and Yes. Love you long time.

The Goat God "overheard" this thread-jacking. (http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/07/29/new_gto/index.html)  Of course no pictures.  I'm stunned the Australians are to blame for the boring models.  Changes my worldview.

Yes that F-Type is sweet.  A little too much of the vette silhouette but overall very nice lines.  Nice referback to the Es.  Nothing attracted the ladies like me tooling around in my old man's 1978 XJS ragtop.

What's with all the American cars? Isn't the Ford GT the only good looking American car ever built?

Here ya go Hanzii. A BMW concept car:

(http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/motorshows/paris2004/03-large/bmw-record-concept.jpg)

Someone dropped their bar of steelbrushed soap.

It is quite ugly, isn't it?

Blashphemer!

(http://www.furnari.net/carangos/imagens/timeline/69_chevrolet_corvette_stingray_t-top.jpg)

Yes, because when we think of beauty we immediately turn to the germans...















... well, actually my boss' '71 Porsche 911 is quite lovely.

69 Judge? Yeah I'll take two thanks.

(http://jutt-1.tripod.com/images/1969_GTO_Judge.jpg)

I know, too bad prototype chasis and VIN numbers are not street legal.  :|

And Hanzii, you may excuse yourself. There Are some pretty American cars, as well as European cars.

It's the Japanese who don't have many gorgeous cars.

Yea, the RX-7, Supra, and NSX sure are ugly. The Japanese have just as many beautiful cars, just not as many classic muscle beautiful cars. Because we bombed them to hell and back. If they were making cars as long as us I'm sure they'd have them too.

Notice the use of the modifier "many."

I'm not convinced the Asian manufacturers do muscle anyway.

Have you guys driven a new GTO though? They may not be too pretty on the outside, but they still have balls.

If only they looked like the Ram Air:

(http://www.engine-power.com/img/specs/pontiac_gto_ramair_01.jpg)

I do believe the term you are groping for is 'Psycho'
(http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/rx8/images/gallery/rx8_images_1.jpg)

Nevermind

I'm still on the fence with the RX9.

My neighbor just bought an RX-8. Seems like a fun little car. I can barely fit in it though.

I love the Renesis engines...I'm just not crazy about the styling.

Though I would place it above the RSX.

All I know is it handles like you wouldn't believe. And  I drive way to damn fast now, especially on mountain roads. :)

Oh, I know it handles like a dream....My mom had a RX7 years ago.

Lightweight engine + Mounting Far back in the engine bay + resulting 50/50 weight split = handling pwnage.

If my performance in Juiced is any indication, I should never be put behind the wheel of a rear-wheel drive sports car.

Cars that do not put power to the rear wheels are not true sports cars.

I'm looking at YOU, Ricers.

It's a simple matter of physics. When a car accelerates, the weight load, because of inertia, has it's center of gravity shift towards the rear of the car. A few things to think about:

Can you think of any Supercars that use FWD, or even 4WD/AWD?

Indy, Nascar, etc all use RWD for a reason. Hell, even the drifting that the import crowds love so much can only be down with a RWD vehicle.

My friend bought an STI several months ago (I'm not sure what year, but I think it's a limited run model, in black and gold), and as far as awd's go, hell yeah I'd take it. I'm not a big fan of ricers at all, but I'll make an exception in that case. It may or may not be a sports car, but I do know that he hasn't been burned yet, whether on the street or in weekend races (it probably helps that he's a completely insane bastard when it comes to driving).

I have nothing against the STI; it's a good vehicle.

4WD/AWD has its own set of problems though, which usually come down to added weight and power distribution. For instance, some times, you need a Little bit of wheel spin, but in AWD, you dno't really get that, and bog Badly.

Yech.  Well function over form I guess.

Well, it all depends on what kind of "Function" you are looking for.

I like old cars because I can work on them, even though I'm mechanically challenged. I really miss my old souped-up ford falcon, that was a dream to work on.

There's also the bit about buying something that will hold or appreciate in value, opposed to losing a huge chunk of value for driving it off the lot.

When my truck dies, I'm shopping for something like these:
(http://www.loti.com/60s_muscle_cars/Camaro-Muscle/1969_CAMARO_SS396.JPG)
(http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/f/g/fgr103/GTO.jpg)
(http://mustangs.retrojeunesse60.com/8t01s115209a.jpg)

My first car was an RX7, loved that thing......but it was all black outside and interior.  It was super fucking hot in the summertime.

(http://www.claringtonclassics.ca/Images/member%20cars/1964%20Chevy%20Impala%20SS%20-%20Bob%20and%20Olga_small.jpg)

My first "nice" car was one of these.  A 1964 Impala SS.  I burned through a lot of tires with this thing in high school. Easy to work on, but the gas mileage was measured in gallons/mile.

You got me there.  Congrats on having free time.  If I were able to get into restoration, I have a '63 Falcon within reach.  Or maybe the '78 Aspen I used to drive, since that slant-six is an awesome engine.  Plus it has red plaid upholstery and faux-wood sidepanels.  It is simply because I don't have the time or energy for that stuff; my dad was a mechanic and has all of the equipment you need to work on an old engine.

A couple of wrenches and a hammer?  :wink:

Number 3, plskthxftw.

Ah now we're getting somewhere...

(http://automobilemag.com/news/0509_pontiac_gto_445.jpg)

No word yet whether the Zeta Lite platform will get the nod.

Newb, '69 Camaro SS for teh win!

I'm gonna stick with the '67 Ray.

I like the SS lines but the goat will kick either them back down to the playground.  S'truth.

Current word is that the entire Zeta platform got canned.

What a travesty.  Morons.

(http://www.autoweek.com/images/news/102907)

Hehe... ass. =)

That's GM for ya.

And Pontiac had some great cars brewing for the platform, too.

Oh, no doubts but I grew up watching Better Off Dead.  I've lusted after the 69 SS since I was 12.

No kidding - this is a company that just needs to die.  While they overinvested in SUVs and pickups, look who caught the real trend... (http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/08/03/toyota_hybrid_push/)

Hybrids not only get better mileage and pollute less they come off the line *much* faster and top out higher.

I wanna roll like this, motherfucka!

(http://www.dogcows.net/images2/undeadbettsepicmount1.jpg)

This is how I roll.

(http://www.avonhill.com/thumbnails/coupe_domestic/1976_AMC_Gremlin.jpeg)

No, no--at least two hammers.  Remember, when in doubt, use a bigger hammer :)

Hell with cars anyways.  Get yourself a big gas-guzzling pickup like me and kill a bit of your planet today!

(http://www.nctd.com/98/98ram.jpg)

*EDIT* oh yeah, someone explain to me why the doors on the General Lee were welded shut?  I never understood the point of that one...

Cool sexy macho men slide in through the window.

Old fat guys open the door and wedge themselves in.

See?  Sexy...

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2002-02/2050743.jpg)

Is he trying to vault headfirst through the window or something? Or just demonstrating how strong the remaining bonnet still is?

I expect it's a temper tantrum... ;)

I actually drive a '03 Ram 1500 pickup, at very high speeds, in downtown ATL and points west.  There are times when I wish I had something smaller and more maneuverable, like the WRX STi.  Or a bike.  Or a flying car.  You have to drive the machine you have, though.

Never had any problems with maneuverability, if you discount the one parallel-parking incident I had a couple months after I bought my pickup and was still getting used to the size :)

Although, it is a miracle I never drove over my neighbor's moped.  I park on the street in front of my house, and the bastard used to park that thing about a foot in front of (or behind) my pickup, where it was completely obscured once I was in the cab.

Center of Gravity, not your friend in a pickup. (http://www.dps.state.la.us/tiger/Truck_Poster1.pdf#search='pickup%20rollover')

He's using his body like a giant mallet, trying to beat the sheet metal back into place after a collision.

And fuck SUV's....there damn need to drive a damn tank on the roads.

Pfft...who among us *wouldn't* drive an actual tank on the roads if we could get our grubby mitts on one...?  Especially in California or Texas, both of which have a plentitude of drivers the world would be better off without :)

And yeah, don't drive your pickup or SUV like a car, and you won't fucking roll over like that.  Problem solved.

Sign me up.  I'd clear downtown Ft. Worth in no time.

(http://www.tomtownsend-toyland.com/toyland/recent_tank_crushes_porsche.jpg)

Ok, so my allusion was ill-placed, but still...

There is no need to be driving an SUV, at least for about 98% of Americans.

Depends on your notion of a "problem".  I don't want to be immodest, but I can put that extended-cab into places most people would not dream of putting a Miata, generally ten or fifteen mph above the posted limit, too.  I love the Dodge truck because of it's amazing drivability and how the controls are so responsive; when I drive a Ford or Chevy I tend to weave and brake too late.

It's just that I have reached the limits of what I can do with this machine, particularly when cornering.  The tradeoff with something smaller is that to successfully drive in the ATL, you almost need an offroad vehicle in places.  A rally-ish car like the WRX seems like a good compromise.  I also miss my stick shift.

You brought up the maneuverability bit, sounded like it was a problem at times for ya, guess I misread :)  As I said, the only trouble I've ever had was easily fixed with $30 worth of paint.

I likes me my truck. 

That scratch across your paint job was me. You'd already know that but I ran you off the road and blinded you with pepper spray just before I bludgeoned your ass.

(http://teresco.org/pics/signs/20040316/texas.jpg)

Gah, is this still a car thread?

I want a Prius, or some other hybrid. Or, if I really had my druthers, I'd be driving a baby blue 76 Lincoln Continental converted to hybrid. Eco-friendly pimp mobile ftw!

I was going to buy a hybrid last summer, but there was a 6 month waiting list for all the good ones (Toyota and Honda). Only in Seattle...I could go to the Midwest and have my pick of colors, I bet!

My next car will probably be a hybrid- I am hoping that there will be more to choose from in 5 years.

You should try Portland. Then you wouldn't hafta pay sales tax either!

If you get a hybrid make sure you get a good warranty on the battery cells. Up north in wisconsin they have had some issues such as estimated time between replacements of the 7k battery of every 3 years.

My friend got one and managed to get a 10 year warranty on the battery cell so at least if he has problems he can point at them and laugh as they have to pony the cash for it.

Frankly if you want a car that gets very good milage look into the little volkswagon disel's. Those things gas milage is often BETTER than the hybrids and a good deal cheaper.

kaid

That's what I commute with - Passat TDI.  I average 75mph with the A/C blowing full blast and get 40mpg.  If I baby it the average is around 44mpg.  Punchy little car too.

Content to stand alone
Waiting, watching, guarding Granny's home
His face reflecting simple joy
But he is not a happy Plaster boy
"Careful sonny, not too close
Unless you want a lethal dose
of hardening..."
Patiently waiting for some shade
Wishing he could run away
Supressing any urge to roam
Such devotion from a little gnome
I once saw a calico that thought he could fly
And then the lanky Doberman that tinkled in my eye
A pacifict by nature, with amble common sense
But if I had my druthers, I'd rather be a fence
Now Granny, she's a good one, she shines me now and then
ANd come around this springtime, I'm due for paint again
On keeping Granny comfy, I try and earn my keep
I'm just wishing I had some eyelids, so I could get some sleep

-Les Claypool & The Holy Mackerel

I'm pretty sure Washington would force him to pay sales tax on it before licensing it.

They do - you just need to pay VDL off a bit to keep it in her name and keep it licensed in Oregon.

But then I would have fugly Oregon plates and everyone would throw things at me.

But But But....Hybrids are Boring.

And they don't have the grunt, or the looks, I am looking for. They're either lame little econoboxes, are ugly small-size SUV's. Ick.

Remember, I am in my 30s and married. I don't need a car to prove my masculinity or virility, I just need to get to work.

Which is why god created Saturn and Kia.

Notice I said "GET" to work. Saturn and Kia make that a dicey proposition. They don't cost much because they are shoddily made (the Kia more so than the Saturn).

I'm sure if you had your way we'd all be driving Hondas.

Neither do I. I need a car that is fun to drive, because I like driving.

Get a job as a courier. That will cure you of your love of driving in a big fat fucking hurry.

You should talk! Washington is Oregon's white-trash cousin, and no one there can drive (except Seattlites. Is that what they're called? Well, it should be.). And our plates are fine, thank you very much! I like salmon.

BTW, Sauced and I are coming up for a few days after Labor Day Weekend. We should all go to the Garage or something for drinks.

Holla at me a few days in advance and we will see if we can get something arranged.

I ain't no hollaback girl.

I really like my Saturn and haven't had any problems with it so far. My sister's last 2 cars (She leases, sucker.) also haven't ever had any problems. I got a 2002 previously-leased SE 300 with full features and 22k miles for 12.5. (only suckers buy new)  I don't treat cars nice or drive them short trips, either.  I've already put another 20k miles on it in that timeframe.  
  
The Honda Accords we looked at were 7k more for older cars (2000 or 2001) with higher milage (35+k).  We went on a day it was raining and they all had trunks full of water and rust spots around the seal.  Two of the three "Honda Certified Vehicles" also wouldn't start without being jumped.  

Yeah, I'll pass on Honda, thx.

(Oh, as for Hybrids, yes they don't sell in the Midwest.  The dealer we went to was Cincy's biggest Honda dealer and they had 2 they were trying to move.  They said not many people were interested/ asking about them when we inquired.)

Just stop it.

Washington is a fake Norway. I am from the real thing, and I don't like salmon. Phhhpt!

Don't you let men drive in Texas?

Or get a one-hour-one-way commute.  I used to like driving.  Now I just want to spend less that $40 a week on gas and/or less than ten hours a week behind the wheel.

That's like living in a brothel and not liking pussy... or something.
Salmon's nice... just not that bland farmed stuff. Gotta be wild salmon. And every American car pictured in this thread (except possibly one) is still ugly.

And that would be the Stingray...

Whether you think so or not.

/nod

I roll in a 2000 Oldsmobile Intrigue GX.  It works.  Good engine it seems.  Doesn't like gas though.

(http://www.double-action.de/galleries/gallery/images/Car%20Roll%20MM1.jpg)

You, sir, are wrong.

I plan on getting a hybrid for my next car in 2-3 years. Fuck measuing my peen with my muscle car, I just need the bitch to get me to work without bankrupting me and destroying the environment.

Well, since this topic is sufficiently off course...

This last year we decided to buy a new car.  It would be for my wife because, well, her's was 6 years older.  We looked at a ton of stuff: hybrids, SUVs, and sports/luxury cars.  The hybrids just got too expensive too fast.  You got less car for the money and really, some of them had some really annoying drawbacks.  The Accord had a miniscule trunk and no folding seats due to the ginormous battery in the back.  The Prius was a fucking cool little car.  But after we drove the TSX a couple times, we wanted something with a bit more guts and we didn't like some of the Prius horror stories.  It came down to being not 100% confident in the technology. 

SUVs, well, just didn't impress.  Bad, bad gass mileage was a major turn off.  Plus, they seemed to not have a lot of get up probably due to them weighing a ton.  The Highlander was a nice SUV though.  We came close to buying one with the Toyota people throwing ridiculous deal after ridiculous deal in our faces.  They pissed me off though, they probably would have sold me a car if they didn't keep me hostage in the damn dealership for like 2 hours. I JUST WANTED LUNCH, YOU DICKS.


This is what we ended up getting:

(http://acura.rizzacars.com/images/edmunds/VEHICLE/2005/Acura/AcuraCompliantPhotos/05.Acura.TSX.f3-4-E.jpg)

Acura TSX (http://www.acura.com/models/model_index.asp?module=tsx)

Beautiful car.  All of the bells and whistles. 200 HP 4-cylinder.  Makes me not hate driving.  The sports suspension takes a little getting used to, but once you've got it, you're just amazed at how responsive the car can be.

Next car we'll revisit the hybrid option and maybe even a hybrid SUV if our family situation warrants it.  Hopefully the technology will be along a little farther and not so much of a goddamned price hike.  My 2002 Civic should last for another 5-8 years.  The thing is, the TSX has really ruined my car expectations and desires.  I really like having a car with a lot of juice and all of the trappings.  Downgrading to something more utilitarian would be difficult.

I bought a hybrid last year, despite it still being fairly new technology.  People said I was crazy.  Then gas prices skyrocketed.  People don't say I'm crazy any more.   :-D

Filling up a tank of premium with a car that gets 22/31 mpg is painful.  Just pure pain.

Not in regards to your automobile choice, at any rate. =)

My Ram 1500 gets 15.5 mpg if I don't run the A/C.  This translates to, as I mentioned, over $40 per week for fuel simply to commute.  If I could convince my boss to let me work from home all the time, I could use that money to buy crap from the EB discount bin.

I was going to say that, but it went without saying.

19/29 for me, bwahahaha...

And that's Premium fuel in NJ, too.

I think my Mustang gets 15/22 off regular. It's fast though. One of the 97 GTs, manual shift. It looks like this, but with better rims.

(http://www.phoenixcreation.com/bobsauto/Dcp97927.jpg)

I can't believe you guys are bragging about how shitty your gas mileage is when we're at war.  /wags finger

I can't believe we're warring for more oil and gas is still so high.

Heh, 22/31 isn't HORRIBLE.  It just pales in comparison to what a Prius might get.  We actually had a Prius ordered, but taking the TSX on the freeway sealed the deal. 

Still, I don't own a ginormous truck or a 70's muscle car, so I guess I'm doing a bit better than Joe Sixpack.

Why does this country push Hummers and SUVs when we're in the middle of a fuel crisis? Or in the middle of global warming? (remember, pink is blatantly obvious)

Shitty mileage is forgiveable in older cars, I guess, 'cuz they have character. My old '78 Buick Limited used to take $5/day in gas just for the 30-mile round trip to school and back. But she was purty, so I coughed it up. (her name was the Mothership Connection) But in new vehicles? That's just a sin. Portland is very bicycle and pedestrian friendly, with an awesome public transit system, so I haven't needed to own a car in ten years.

I think I get something like 40/50 in practice.  It would probably be closer to the advertised gas mileage if there weren't so many stop signs in my part of town.

2002 Impala. 21/32.

It's silver (how many of those do you see?  :roll:), so it fails in the character department too.

(http://www.negativewaves.com/images/78_moty8.jpg)

Shit, 21/30 Grand Am here, feeling the pinch at about $26 a week for the 25 minute commute to work every day. I swear I can feel the ulcer forming every time I pull into the pump. Cocksuckers. 7 years ago I was getting gas for 85 fucking cents, now I rejoice when I see it for less than 2 fucking dollars.

Business-humping crotchpheasant oil sleaze balllicker administration.

$2.88 for Supreme at the gas station on my commute. When it hits $3 a gallon for regular (and it will soon), I want to see the the White House Press Secretary dance. There will be all sorts of outcry. At least there will be from me.

$6.20 here.



... I ride a bike.

Regular hit $1.08/litre Cdn down the street from me recently. On good days you can get it around $0.96.

$1.08 translates to roughly $3.54/gallon.

I use Premium fuel, exhaust, and have a better-than-average Fuel Injection System, so I'm not nearly as bad as the retards in SUV's and large trucks.

Also, as I've said before, I could never hope to attempt to use public transportation; it just doesn't exist where I live.