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Another one filed neatly into 'this shit didn't happen at my school' category.  Different from all the other stories of it's type because she appears to be hot.

http://news.tbo.com/news/MGBCF7YVABE.html

Damn.

:(

Just make sure ya film it man.

Good that she is getting used to having sex in a trailer.

School teachers weren't that hot when I was in school.

Possibly NSFW

http://www.tabloidcolumn.com/debbie-lafave.html

http://www.blazyshow.com/news/inthenewsjuly04/TCS%20-%20Debra%20Lafave.htm

So uh....where was she when I was a young lad? Hmm...

You are still a young lad... just not young enough.

Wisdom of the ages.

She isn't that hot (or rather...."Not my type", I guess).

My English teacher in junior high was smokin' (think Jennifer Beals [EDIT] not "Biel").

She is 10000x hotter than all but one teacher I had in my entire life (that one was hot, but not as hot as the perp). People that hot don't fuck kids because they can't get it anywhere else- she must get off on the illicit nature of it, and maybe the power trip.

And maybe the idea that she is giving something back to the kids, something they will never forget....

Oh yeah, I've had a few hot teachers...none of them wanted to bone though.

You just need to refine your technique.

Or hope they grade on the curve.

Make sure to show your work next time.

Remember to get both parents' signatures on the release form next time.

Gold, Jerry, Gold!

Both internal DNS servers went down (how does that happen?) so I found myself suddenly in a lull.

I read through most of the forum thread at Fark on this story. It amazed me how many people were going on about how that she should be treated the same way that a male teacher who had sex with a 14 year old girl would be treated.

Am I in that small of a minority in feeling that what she did really wasn't all that bad? I mean yes, it was inappropriate due to the fact that she was in a position of authority over him, but in my view this sure as hell wasn't rape.

The parents only found out by accident. Based on what we know, the kid was a more than willing participant. Does she really deserve hard jail time for this?

Am I really a bad person for feeling that there is a moral difference between an underage guy having sex and an underage girl? Fourteen is admitedly pushing boundaries, but I know I was more than ready to have all the sex I could at 14. (would have been nice if Id known some girls who were just as ready at the time, but that's unimportant right now)

What she did was wrong and inapropriate. She probably needs counciling, and shouldn't be teaching. She doesn't need jail time.

I agree with Bunk in that if you find a 14-year-old boy unwilling to have sex with his hot teacher... well, good luck with that.

I think that's an artifact of the inequality of the sexes, honestly. It isn't like 14-year old girls aren't willingly having sex either. BUT, we as a society tend to expect boys to have sex, which is why we snicker at this. I mean, at 14, I'd have been all over her, teacher or not, if she'd showed me the attention.

But really, we have to be fair. He's no more "ready" for sex than a girl would be. If you let her off for banging a boy just because he's a boy, you have to let the male teacher off if the girl says she consented. And I don't think anybody is ready for that, nor should we be.

Hey iIagree that it was wrong, I just can't get my head around the idea of sending her to jail for it.

But if the teacher was a man, and the victim was a 14-year old girl, you'd think jail time wasn't enough, right?

In general, yes. And I fully recognise the hypocracy in that. That being said, I don't find it beyond the realm of possibility for a 14 year old girl to intentionally seduce a 24 year old man. What level of punishment is appropriate if said guy gives in?

I was a 14 year old girl sexually molested by her 22 year old camp counselor, so I will comment from an educated viewpoint.

I really liked it.  Sorry.  I'm being completely truthful.  He was totally cute.

Would this actually be defined as molestation?  Just askin'.

I don't know.  I didn't feel molested.  He taught swimming, too, and was very hawt.  Actually, camp would have been unbearable that year (I was being sent there as punishment, btw) if it wasn't for the fooling around with the camp counselor.

My understanding is that legally, it counts as molestation or lewd conduct or rape (depending on what sort of fooling around is going on) no matter what, because minors can't give legal consent.

She's ok looking, but I wouldn't call her "hot."  She's got those legs that say "I'm going to be 250#+ when I'm 40" and 'crazy eyes'.

I guess it also depends on where you are.  In the US, the age of legal consent is 18.  In Britain, I think it's 16 (unless you're a gay male, then it's 18, except in Scotland where it's 16).  If I had been in Italy, it would have legally been my choice, anyway.  In Spain, I would have already been over the hill.

What we in Texas call "Fat Potential".

In Texas it's usually related to cattle though.

Actually, age of consent (http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm) varies widely in the US.  In Ohio, for example, it's 16 so long as the age difference is no more than 4 years. 

Also - as an aside - if you're getting flirty messages from a 14F in Xenia, OH, it's a trap.  At least once every 3 months there's a report on the news about some local guy being picked-up for meeting a 14 year old for sex. (In fact, once it was a local country Radio DJ)  It's always the cops in Xenia, which just goes to  show child molesters don't watch the news.

I never get flirty messages from anyone.   :cry:

RU Hawt IRL?

Aha!  I see my problem now!

This thread is going to a very bad place fast.

In a fucking Concorde.

I had a hot teacher at School.  My English Teacher.  Which is why I now have an English Degree.


My point is that, at no point beyond my very, very vivid fantasies, did she ever want to do anything with/to me.

Times, they are a changing.

I was a mature-looking young child, at 14 I was always mistaken for 18+, and I was, unbeknownst to me, fairly hot for a country boy.  There were a number of attractive young 18 year old women who informed me, directly or otherwise, that they would love to get in my pants, if only I was of legal age.  Since I was already one screwed up puppy at that age, I deeply regret that they didn't.

Particularly since I haven't been anywhere near that hot in the 30+ years since then.

On the other hand, I was a TA in grad school, and the kinds of improper pressure I could have brought on my legally mature students was vast.  I shudder to think what I could have wrought on a less mature audience.  Kids are easily manipulated.

So I guess the question I come to is how we know that this stuff is bad for kids.  Sure, it is easy to look at victims of teenaged sexual abuse and say they are screwed up, but could that be because they were already screwed up?  I mean, with a mother like we saw in the Jackson case, is the boy going to be normal even if he doesn't wind up in Jackson's bed?  Had one or all of those young ladies said 'hell with it, I'm jumping him', I doubt I would have been seriously damaged by it.  Hell, it would probably be a fond memory.  Yet I'm hesitant to write off such things.  I've met too many screwed up young women over the years with tales of abuse and misuse to ignore.  And I can't think that guys are that different, except that the kind of life-destroying excessive promiscuity the female abuse victim often shows is considered 'normal' for men.

In fact, I think that the real difference is not between sexes, but between people.  Some people get PSTD from combat, some don't.  Prehaps they are the same when it comes to sex at an early age.

Let it be known:

1. Lafave is super hot.
2. That 15 year old loved every minute of it and still brags to his friends.
3. Will regret putting her in jail for the rest of her life.
4. The prosecution is lead by an evil cockburglar ice queen who probably hasn't gotten laid in about 30 years. She ain't that bad looking. But she's obviously holding a grudge, she should be fried.
5. Statutory Rape for males should be downed to under 15 while girls remain under 18. The moment men hit high school, the #1 thing on their mind is boobies. Followed by figuring out how to get liquor, cigarettes, and M Rated Games. And into R-Rated movies - depending on where they live.

Inspired by Signe, I'll share my teacher story...I'll try not to go to Bruceland.

So - in support of Schild's #2 point.

I had been working as a camp counselor for a number of years, (It was more of an excuse to spend a week making out with female counselors in my mind.) - The summer I turned 18 one of the older counselors (24 was old to me at that time) and I hooked up. She said she had wanted to do it earlier, but had been waiting until I turned 18 - because well - I don't think she liked the thought of jail time.

So anyways... I go back to school the next fall and she is student teaching one of my classes.

Hot for Teacher? mmm Hmmm...

What is it if you're a gay female?  Or human of any gender attracted to ruminants of any gender?

Well, at least in Britain, it's all related to buggery.  It used to be out and out illegal but now it's just restricted.  I think it's still illegal in Northern Ireland. 

I don't know why I know this stuff.   :-(

Fact of the matter :  Women chewing box is hot.  No law against it.  Dick being squeezed tightly into anal cavaty of another man to the incessent grunt, grunt, grunt of the construction worker is not hot.  Therefore, laws against it.


Double standards and whatnot.

I'm sure it's the bibles fault.

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As far as teachers go I had one really hot teacher back when I was about 14. I would have been head over heels for her if it wasn't for the fact that she was a complete and utter bitch (gave an entire class detention once for calling her miss instead of ma'am). She was let go after a year, all signs point to the fact that she was carrying on with the head boy. He was old enough but obviously the school didn't want this going on and didn't want any scandal so she was encouraged to move on.

But to comment on this I agree that it seems different for a woman to have sex with an underage boy than vice versa but I think that it's deeply unfair to say that a teacher who seduces say a 14 year old boy can get off but a man who sleeps with a 17 year old girl gets sent to pound-me-in-the-ass-federal prison. Hell he might not even know she was underage. She knew what she was doing, it's against the law, she has to pay the price and that will remain my position until having a 15 year old girl saying that she enjoyed having a sexual realtionship with her teacher gets him off jailtime too (and no this doesn't mean I'd think it's ok, simply an equality thing).

For some reason, reading Nowhereman's posts, I remember AGES ago when Righ and I were admin for Discworld Mud.  I have to say... there is no animal more lonely and more sad than a Brit boy during his first year away at Uni.  I used to cry for them... when I wasn't taunting them mercilessly with my uber godlike feminine intardweb powers.  The internet wasn't so scary back then and since most of them lived in the UK, they used to come visit us sometimes.  Once a whole herd of Welsh Uni lads came to visit.  I would feed them home-cooked food and we would all get stoned. 

Ah... the good old days.

And then they would roam the countryside, looking for sheep to shag, I imagine.

Probably.  Maybe you should merge this thread with Daydreamer's poon thread.  Everything seems to be heading in the same direction today anyway.

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Excellent.

My comments:

She is hot. I wish she'd been my teacher.

As for the age of consent stuff. Let's just say I side more with Europe and Japan than with the U.S. on this one. I think 16 is fine, and frankly, if we're being honest, I think some are mature enough emotionally earlier than that. That being said I'm not about to put that theory to the test. If I ever went to jail I'd be somebody's bitch and I know it.