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Title: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Ralence on June 29, 2005, 07:31:20 PM
  I don't think many play this besides myself, but they've just made the biggest improvement to the game ever.

 Support Experience Explained (http://psforums.station.sony.com/ps/board/message?board.id=indevelopment&message.id=6679)

  I still play quite often with my outfit, and this has drastically changed the way the game is being played in the last few days.  People are now TRYING to help each other.  With exp and merits for reviving, healing, repairing, even piloting a a galaxy dropship that dumps a squad onto a base.

  And you can skip everything else on the message board if you happen to follow the link, it's the stereotypical vault-ish boards over there.

  The game is still a lot of fun with a good outfit, though populations have been fairly low lately especially outside of prime time hours.  If I remember right, the last actual numbers anyone posted (Estimates, not actual hard figures) was something like 500 players on each server during their respective prime-times.  It's still a fairly good amount, and there's never a lack of people to fight against.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Trippy on June 29, 2005, 08:32:58 PM
That sounds like good stuff in general and would've been great for me when I played since my wimpy system couldn't handle the large scale battles so I spent most of my time doing support stuff (ANT runs for teh win!) which I tend to gravitate to in general in team-based games. I don't really like the whole healed/repaired thingie must kill something for support person to get exp mechanic and there's only a small window of time when you actually can get this exp but I understand they had to try and reduce potential abuses of the system.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Viin on June 29, 2005, 08:47:04 PM
I'm *soooo* glad we don't have lame ass sigs like those forums.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: schild on June 29, 2005, 09:06:49 PM
Yea. If we had lame ass sigs here, there's a good chance I'd have replaced the board with a 1988 Ford Escort fanclub webring site by now.

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Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: AcidCat on June 30, 2005, 07:55:19 AM
This should have been in the game at launch .... but I guess later is better than never for those still playing.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Bunk on June 30, 2005, 08:09:27 AM
Yea. If we had lame ass sigs here, there's a good chance I'd have replaced the board with a 1988 Ford Escort fanclub webring site by now.

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Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: shiznitz on June 30, 2005, 08:27:51 AM
This should have been in the game at launch .... but I guess later is better than never for those still playing.

Exactly and it only took them TWO FUCKING YEARS! Why it took the dev team so long to implement this and mini-mechs I will never understand. I don't really like the mechs (Battle Frame Robots, BFRs, biffers, etc) but the game world was begging for them from day one.



Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Furiously on June 30, 2005, 09:02:44 AM
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Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Merusk on June 30, 2005, 09:26:34 AM
I'd say 'about time' but I find I just don't care anymore.  I had an off & on dalliance with Planetside, but they change things so slowly I found it's much better to just putz with whatever new shooter is on the market in beta/ demo.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Sky on June 30, 2005, 10:02:19 AM
That's great. A little slow, but better late than never imo: PS is a great game and deserves the love.

As a stealth support CE guy, I love the new changes. Reward my hacks and my AMS! And then to get a fraction of exp from guys you are supporting above and beyond squad exp...some really welcome changes for the little guys who keep things smooth.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Jamiko on June 30, 2005, 10:35:17 AM
Is the XP gained by supporting someone coming out of the amount the supported person gets? In other words, is the xp awarded for killing someone split up amongst the killer and the supporters or does the killer still get the normal amount of xp? I couldn't quite tell from reading the post.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: shiznitz on June 30, 2005, 03:08:22 PM
No, there is a multiplier that boosts the exp pool based on the number of squad members within a certain proximity of each other when kills happen. The formula allows for one or two members to be off doing things without penalizing everyone (e.g. cloakers, ams drivers.)


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Ralence on June 30, 2005, 03:12:35 PM
Is the XP gained by supporting someone coming out of the amount the supported person gets? In other words, is the xp awarded for killing someone split up amongst the killer and the supporters or does the killer still get the normal amount of xp? I couldn't quite tell from reading the post.

  The exp is created out of thin air, it's an addition to what anyone would have normally gotten, so there is no bad side to it at all, except now you'll have 4 people you don't know trying to revive you, instead of, well, only people that are your close friends, if at all.





Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Sky on June 30, 2005, 03:22:33 PM
It's sad they'd do it for xp and not just because it's the right way to play the game. Mmogtards, s'wut I call'em.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Furiously on July 01, 2005, 07:19:00 AM
It's sad they'd do it for xp and not just because it's the right way to play the game. Mmogtards, s'wut I call'em.

Who doesn't that term cover?


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Sky on July 01, 2005, 07:44:19 AM
People who play the game strategically and tactically and don't worry so much about 'exp' in a wargame. There are a few.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: AcidCat on July 01, 2005, 09:46:28 AM
People who play the game strategically and tactically and don't worry so much about 'exp' in a wargame. There are a few.

Especially at this point in the game where most players are at max level anyway.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Samwise on July 01, 2005, 09:52:33 AM
Sounds pretty clever to me.  I'm all in favor of games rewarding "good" behavior.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Krakrok on July 01, 2005, 10:45:51 AM
Especially at this point in the game where most players are at max level anyway.

I bought it when it came out and I've never made max level.


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Sky on July 01, 2005, 11:49:12 AM
Especially at this point in the game where most players are at max level anyway.

I bought it when it came out and I've never made max level.
My "highest level" guy is BR13, iirc. Because I usually play support and don't get much in the way of 'phat exp'. I just play to win, not to be a mmogtard. Bites me in the butt because I'm pretty limited in loadout options, so I play a ton of alts, a vehicle guy, a flyer, a MAX, etc. Because it's the easiest way for non-tards to diversify skills. I also find I don't get much experience because I tend to go after big, hard targets (like BFRs these days), and other people get the exp. I don't mind, other than the fact it's retahded.

And then there's the whole post-beta exp nerf thing  :evil:


Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Azazel on July 01, 2005, 07:59:29 PM
I'd say that only just got the idea from Battlefield 2, and it's giving "experience/points" for teamwork based things like healing and ammo-giving and support guys blowing bridges and arty up..



Title: Re: Planetside adds Support Exp.
Post by: Surlyboi on July 02, 2005, 05:13:31 AM
My ex girlfriend still plays, she maxed out xp within the first year almost entirely on sniper kills. After that, she sort of went to the galaxy pilot/combat engineer role just for the change of pace (and the ability to mow people down with mines and turret emplacements when she's not even there). She likes the changes, but she weighs in with a lot of people on the "what the fuck took you guys so long?" boat.