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Ever wondered what the child of Terminator and Top Gun would look like?

I give you Stealth (http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/stealth/)

Trailer is a bit tiny, but the movie itself looks like it could be promising.

Jamie Foxx is Vin Diesel is Tom Cruise is Maverick.

Wow.

At first, I thought it was just going to be a modern-day "Top Gun", and then they throw the twist at you.  This has the potential to be really good; I hope they do it right.

Bruce

Huh? Is this a joke? I am misunderstanding something here?

Jamie, Jessica, random white guy, say hello to your new wingman, HAL.

Perhaps you could explain what you didn't like about it.  Don't like movies about military hardware blowing stuff up?  Don't like AI movies?  What?

Bruce

As tough as this is to even say, it looks like a poor man's Independence Day. Minus MASS destruction and cool aliens - and depending on which side of the art fence you fall on, Will Smith.

No Chappy. And for that they will fail.

edit: I'm gonna be sad if you guys don't know who Chappy is.

My first thought on seeing the trailer was "haven't I seen this movie before?  And didn't it suck?"

Maybe it was the lightning strike magically reprogramming a peaceful robot into OMG AN EVIL SELF-AWARE AI that got me.  My eyes rolled of their own volition.

Lightning strike causes military robot to become sentient?  This isn't Top Gun + Terminator, this is Top Gun + Short Circuit.   :-P

(http://www.dvd.thefunnyfarm.co.uk/images/13513f.jpg)

Bruce

The logic behind lightning hitting an airplane is a bit suspect too.  Obviously, no one who completed highschool physics was consulted for the writing of this screenplay.

Alkiera

Could you elucidate on this statement? Lightening hits aircraft in flight ALL the time...

Check again, I think you failed physics there

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae568.cfm

The movie looks stupid.

The trailer for this movie made a vein in my head pulse. Badly. It appears to be the epitome of stupid, hack cinema. I cannot imagine a movie made more insipid with a better cast.

Exactly.  The same effect occurs in cars, the charge mainly flows around the skin of the vehicle, and off some other point to the ground.  It generally does not affect anyone or anything inside.

Alkiera

Except for the fact that it in fact doesn't normally work once the electrical potential exceeds a base threshold. I've flown many missions where our post flight inspection of the aircraft indicated multiple lightening strikes of various intensities in a single flight, and I've seen entire radomes completely blasted off the front of the aircraft from a particularly strong in flight strike.

For what it's worth, here is what is on the "outside" of a basic aircraft:

all flight control surfaces
all antennas (communication, navigation, IFF)
radar system "guts" (transmit and receive antennas mostly--processing is done inside)
anti/de-icing surfaces
threat detection, avoidance, and countermeasures systems (believe it or not, even new commercial aircraft have designs for threat detection/countermeasure systems in planning)

There is a lot more, but those are the top systems off the top of my head that are (or can be) commonly affected by in flight strikes.

Yes... and if the AI-controlled plane had communication problems; difficulty flying in cold, wet weather; an inability to stay in the air, or trouble with radar systems, that'd be fine.

But no...  Best I can tell, the lightning strike left the plane alone, left the computer/AI hardware alone... but reprogrammed the AI to be insane and start blowing things up.

Riiiight.

Alkiera

Hehe..ok, now that's a good point. I have to admit, I jumped on the physics comment, without taking the movie trailer itself into the context.

You are correct, that's pretty damned hokey!

Actually, having not seen the movie yet, we don't know that it didn't damage any other systems.  We also don't know if the electrial strike "really" caused the plane to become self-aware and/or crazy... the whole plot twist might be they think that's what did it, but it turns out they discover the military told it to lie or something like H.A.L.

Bruce

By the director of XXX and The Fast and the Furious.

That tells me all I need to know.

edit: Nevermind

Yeah, I'm pretty sure any depth the screenplay might have had with regards to the AI turning rogue was quickly sucked out by the same director that brought us Vin Diesel and fast cars.

I was liking the trailer until the robot plane. The disgust I feel has previously been elucidated.

Looks like they're willing to shell out to get some big names signed onto the production, and the effects are likely to be pretty sweet. 

However, with Rob at the helm, it's likely to be on par with XXX and F&F - just as advertised.  What could've been a neat concept with cool action will be dumbed down to be just cool action, with the concept thrown by the wayside. 

Studio Exec 1:  Hey, I've got an idea, lets do a terminator movie about skynet nuking everyone, and have heroes try to stop it
Studio Exec 2:  They've already done that movie, and we don't even have the rights to terminator.
Studio Exec 1:  Ok, lets hire the fast and furious guys and do the whole thing IN THE AIR.  With FAKE MADE UP PLANES.


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Derailing time:

Any of you ever see Adaptation with Nick Cage and Nick Cage?

Anyway, about halfway through it, Donald Kaufman pitches a movie to his brother called "Three." In the movie, the studio executives, actors, actresses - everyone loves it. Charlie hates it.

In real life, they made the movie - it's called Identity.

Kaufman deserves royalties but he'll never get them.

Obligatory awesome quotes:
Charlie: "Here you go. The killer's a literature professor. He cuts off little chunks from his victims' bodies until they die. He calls himself 'the deconstructionist.'"

-

Charlie: "The only idea more overused than serial killers is multiple personality. On top of that, you explore the notion that cop and criminal are really two aspects of the same person. See every cop movie ever made for other examples of this."

Donald: Mom called it "psychologically taut".

Now you all can get back to talking about the silly plane movie.

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Adaptation would be the film I refer people to when they say "Nicholas Cage sucks!" Or when they ask "Who the hell is Chris Cooper?"

The Rock, Adaptation, Matchstick Men, and sometimes Raising Arizona, Leaving Las Vegas and Con Air are my goto Cage movies.. The rest is universally crap. Weatherman and Next look to be....decent. Well, I think the first of the two will be.

Don't forget Ghost Rider!  :roll:



Then again, you never know....

I never got Leaving Las Vegas.  Heard great things about it, saw it, and thought, "This is pretty fucking stupid."  The Rock had its moments, but they were mainly Sean Connery moments.  I found Cage thoroughly unconvincing.

Now, Matchstick Men, Con Air, and of course Raising Arizona are great Cage flicks.

Bruce

There wasn't anything to "get". It's a portrait, not a story.

Know the difference.

I think he was drunk a lot and Elizabeth Shue gets naked. I got that.

I liked Con Air when I saw it in the theater, and it still has some good lines, but it does not hold up well to repeated viewings.

'Put down tha bunny rabbit!"

GAH, that just fucks my earhole with a spiked dildo.

Con Air was a fucking joke. LLV, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, and Raising Arizona are the only Cage movies I would even consider watching (the first is good but depressing, the 2nd he is barely in, and the 3rd is just comic genius). Shit like Con Air, Face/Off and Gone in 60 Seconds have reduced Cage to about Vin Diesel (aka Dim Vessel- thanks Signe!) status in my eye.

Oh hell, Face/Off, I forgot about that movie.

The first time I saw it, I didn't fully appreciate it.  But subsequent viewings have shown me that it has some great acting.  When Cage has to play Travolta in Cage's body, he assumes Travolta's mannerisms and tone of speech.  It's really fucking brilliant.  Travolta does an even better job at the reverse.  It's not high art, by any means, and the shootout at the end is pretty dumb, but that movie does have some great moments even if the premise is fatally flawed.

Bruce

Both versions of Freaky Friday featured the same type of acting... I haven't seen either of those on the 'must see' list. Face/Off was horrifying, and taught me that John Woo is a hack of biblical proportions.

  I always thought Con Air was at least entertaining if you could ignore the horrendous accent. But anytime someone mentions that, all you need to remember is Nicole Kidman and Days of Thunder. Botta bing.

Hey dont forget about Cage with Tommy lee jones!  Firebirds!

I liked Face/Off but it really suffered from Woo injecting Wooisms, such as those goddamn doves in a church. I saw that back when he did it with "The Killer." And he's still doing it, in Paycheck. I don't care if Affleck wanted the goddamn Doves are not, it's old hat.

And of course, for true Nic Cage/John Woo shittiness, please to watch Windtalkers and just try not to drink the drano afterwards. If it hadn't been for the Navajo in that movie, the entire thing would have been worthless.