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on: February 19, 2005, 11:59:14 PM

Ever wondered what the child of Terminator and Top Gun would look like?

I give you Stealth

Trailer is a bit tiny, but the movie itself looks like it could be promising.

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Reply #1 on: February 20, 2005, 12:05:28 AM

Jamie Foxx is Vin Diesel is Tom Cruise is Maverick.
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Reply #2 on: February 20, 2005, 01:02:04 AM

Wow.

At first, I thought it was just going to be a modern-day "Top Gun", and then they throw the twist at you.  This has the potential to be really good; I hope they do it right.

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Reply #3 on: February 20, 2005, 02:34:29 AM

Trailer is a bit tiny, but the movie itself looks like it could be promising.

Wow.

This has the potential to be really good; I hope they do it right.

Bruce


Huh? Is this a joke? I am misunderstanding something here?
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Reply #4 on: February 20, 2005, 03:49:26 AM

Jamie, Jessica, random white guy, say hello to your new wingman, HAL.

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Reply #5 on: February 20, 2005, 12:04:01 PM

Huh? Is this a joke? I am misunderstanding something here?

Perhaps you could explain what you didn't like about it.  Don't like movies about military hardware blowing stuff up?  Don't like AI movies?  What?

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Reply #6 on: February 20, 2005, 12:14:01 PM

As tough as this is to even say, it looks like a poor man's Independence Day. Minus MASS destruction and cool aliens - and depending on which side of the art fence you fall on, Will Smith.
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Reply #7 on: February 20, 2005, 12:45:19 PM

Huh? Is this a joke? I am misunderstanding something here?

Perhaps you could explain what you didn't like about it.

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Reply #8 on: February 20, 2005, 12:57:48 PM

My first thought on seeing the trailer was "haven't I seen this movie before?  And didn't it suck?"

Maybe it was the lightning strike magically reprogramming a peaceful robot into OMG AN EVIL SELF-AWARE AI that got me.  My eyes rolled of their own volition.
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Reply #9 on: February 20, 2005, 01:07:33 PM

Lightning strike causes military robot to become sentient?  This isn't Top Gun + Terminator, this is Top Gun + Short Circuit.   tongue

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Reply #10 on: February 20, 2005, 01:08:38 PM



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Reply #11 on: February 20, 2005, 03:58:57 PM

The logic behind lightning hitting an airplane is a bit suspect too.  Obviously, no one who completed highschool physics was consulted for the writing of this screenplay.

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Reply #12 on: February 20, 2005, 05:19:33 PM

The logic behind lightning hitting an airplane is a bit suspect too.  Obviously, no one who completed highschool physics was consulted for the writing of this screenplay.

Alkiera

Could you elucidate on this statement? Lightening hits aircraft in flight ALL the time...
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Reply #13 on: February 20, 2005, 06:01:55 PM

The logic behind lightning hitting an airplane is a bit suspect too.  Obviously, no one who completed highschool physics was consulted for the writing of this screenplay.

Alkiera

Check again, I think you failed physics there

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Reply #14 on: February 20, 2005, 06:12:21 PM

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Reply #15 on: February 21, 2005, 08:46:40 AM

Ever wondered what the child of Terminator and Top Gun would look like?

I give you Stealth

Trailer is a bit tiny, but the movie itself looks like it could be promising.

The trailer for this movie made a vein in my head pulse. Badly. It appears to be the epitome of stupid, hack cinema. I cannot imagine a movie made more insipid with a better cast.

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Reply #16 on: February 21, 2005, 08:51:12 AM


Exactly.  The same effect occurs in cars, the charge mainly flows around the skin of the vehicle, and off some other point to the ground.  It generally does not affect anyone or anything inside.

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Reply #17 on: February 21, 2005, 10:28:08 AM


Exactly.  The same effect occurs in cars, the charge mainly flows around the skin of the vehicle, and off some other point to the ground.  It generally does not affect anyone or anything inside.

Alkiera



Except for the fact that it in fact doesn't normally work once the electrical potential exceeds a base threshold. I've flown many missions where our post flight inspection of the aircraft indicated multiple lightening strikes of various intensities in a single flight, and I've seen entire radomes completely blasted off the front of the aircraft from a particularly strong in flight strike.

For what it's worth, here is what is on the "outside" of a basic aircraft:

all flight control surfaces
all antennas (communication, navigation, IFF)
radar system "guts" (transmit and receive antennas mostly--processing is done inside)
anti/de-icing surfaces
threat detection, avoidance, and countermeasures systems (believe it or not, even new commercial aircraft have designs for threat detection/countermeasure systems in planning)

There is a lot more, but those are the top systems off the top of my head that are (or can be) commonly affected by in flight strikes.


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Reply #18 on: February 21, 2005, 02:07:16 PM


Except for the fact that it in fact doesn't normally work once the electrical potential exceeds a base threshold. I've flown many missions where our post flight inspection of the aircraft indicated multiple lightening strikes of various intensities in a single flight, and I've seen entire radomes completely blasted off the front of the aircraft from a particularly strong in flight strike.

For what it's worth, here is what is on the "outside" of a basic aircraft:

all flight control surfaces
all antennas (communication, navigation, IFF)
radar system "guts" (transmit and receive antennas mostly--processing is done inside)
anti/de-icing surfaces
threat detection, avoidance, and countermeasures systems (believe it or not, even new commercial aircraft have designs for threat detection/countermeasure systems in planning)

There is a lot more, but those are the top systems off the top of my head that are (or can be) commonly affected by in flight strikes.

Yes... and if the AI-controlled plane had communication problems; difficulty flying in cold, wet weather; an inability to stay in the air, or trouble with radar systems, that'd be fine.

But no...  Best I can tell, the lightning strike left the plane alone, left the computer/AI hardware alone... but reprogrammed the AI to be insane and start blowing things up.

Riiiight.

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Reply #19 on: February 21, 2005, 04:15:04 PM

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Yes... and if the AI-controlled plane had communication problems; difficulty flying in cold, wet weather; an inability to stay in the air, or trouble with radar systems, that'd be fine.

But no...  Best I can tell, the lightning strike left the plane alone, left the computer/AI hardware alone... but reprogrammed the AI to be insane and start blowing things up.

Riiiight.

Alkiera

Hehe..ok, now that's a good point. I have to admit, I jumped on the physics comment, without taking the movie trailer itself into the context.

You are correct, that's pretty damned hokey!

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Reply #20 on: February 21, 2005, 05:00:47 PM

Actually, having not seen the movie yet, we don't know that it didn't damage any other systems.  We also don't know if the electrial strike "really" caused the plane to become self-aware and/or crazy... the whole plot twist might be they think that's what did it, but it turns out they discover the military told it to lie or something like H.A.L.

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Reply #21 on: February 21, 2005, 05:57:01 PM

By the director of XXX and The Fast and the Furious.

That tells me all I need to know.

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Reply #22 on: February 21, 2005, 05:57:56 PM

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Reply #23 on: February 22, 2005, 07:24:12 AM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure any depth the screenplay might have had with regards to the AI turning rogue was quickly sucked out by the same director that brought us Vin Diesel and fast cars.

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Reply #24 on: February 22, 2005, 08:50:31 AM

I was liking the trailer until the robot plane. The disgust I feel has previously been elucidated.

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Reply #25 on: February 22, 2005, 10:58:55 AM

Looks like they're willing to shell out to get some big names signed onto the production, and the effects are likely to be pretty sweet. 

However, with Rob at the helm, it's likely to be on par with XXX and F&F - just as advertised.  What could've been a neat concept with cool action will be dumbed down to be just cool action, with the concept thrown by the wayside. 

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Reply #26 on: February 24, 2005, 11:32:42 PM

Studio Exec 1:  Hey, I've got an idea, lets do a terminator movie about skynet nuking everyone, and have heroes try to stop it
Studio Exec 2:  They've already done that movie, and we don't even have the rights to terminator.
Studio Exec 1:  Ok, lets hire the fast and furious guys and do the whole thing IN THE AIR.  With FAKE MADE UP PLANES.


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Reply #27 on: February 25, 2005, 12:02:58 AM

Derailing time:

Any of you ever see Adaptation with Nick Cage and Nick Cage?

Anyway, about halfway through it, Donald Kaufman pitches a movie to his brother called "Three." In the movie, the studio executives, actors, actresses - everyone loves it. Charlie hates it.

In real life, they made the movie - it's called Identity.

Kaufman deserves royalties but he'll never get them.

Obligatory awesome quotes:
Charlie: "Here you go. The killer's a literature professor. He cuts off little chunks from his victims' bodies until they die. He calls himself 'the deconstructionist.'"

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Charlie: "The only idea more overused than serial killers is multiple personality. On top of that, you explore the notion that cop and criminal are really two aspects of the same person. See every cop movie ever made for other examples of this."

Donald: Mom called it "psychologically taut".

Now you all can get back to talking about the silly plane movie.

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Reply #28 on: February 25, 2005, 01:55:12 AM

Adaptation would be the film I refer people to when they say "Nicholas Cage sucks!" Or when they ask "Who the hell is Chris Cooper?"
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Reply #29 on: February 25, 2005, 01:58:29 AM

The Rock, Adaptation, Matchstick Men, and sometimes Raising Arizona, Leaving Las Vegas and Con Air are my goto Cage movies.. The rest is universally crap. Weatherman and Next look to be....decent. Well, I think the first of the two will be.
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Reply #30 on: February 25, 2005, 02:03:45 AM

Don't forget Ghost Rider!  rolleyes



Then again, you never know....
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Reply #31 on: February 25, 2005, 02:48:20 AM

The Rock, Adaptation, Matchstick Men, and sometimes Raising Arizona, Leaving Las Vegas and Con Air are my goto Cage movies.. The rest is universally crap. Weatherman and Next look to be....decent. Well, I think the first of the two will be.

I never got Leaving Las Vegas.  Heard great things about it, saw it, and thought, "This is pretty fucking stupid."  The Rock had its moments, but they were mainly Sean Connery moments.  I found Cage thoroughly unconvincing.

Now, Matchstick Men, Con Air, and of course Raising Arizona are great Cage flicks.

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Reply #32 on: February 25, 2005, 03:30:41 AM

I never got Leaving Las Vegas.

There wasn't anything to "get". It's a portrait, not a story.

Know the difference.

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Reply #33 on: February 25, 2005, 06:43:46 AM

I think he was drunk a lot and Elizabeth Shue gets naked. I got that.

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Reply #34 on: February 25, 2005, 08:20:44 AM

I liked Con Air when I saw it in the theater, and it still has some good lines, but it does not hold up well to repeated viewings.

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