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Title: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 03:35:47 AM
The place the go to announce to all of f13 that your lucky mother-fudging ass got into the game already.

For the records, I have not gotten the email...yet.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 13, 2011, 04:02:07 AM
SHWING


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 13, 2011, 04:05:01 AM
Bazinga!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Jherad on December 13, 2011, 04:05:14 AM
If you get in, tell us when you registered your pre-order code please.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2011, 04:06:04 AM
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SWTOR The Old Republic
The first wave of Early Game Access emails have now been sent! We will let you know when the next wave goes out.
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Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Amaron on December 13, 2011, 04:06:31 AM
I registered 2 days after pre-orders went up and I'm not in yet.   Kind of pissed but I guess I'll get in later today at some point.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 13, 2011, 04:08:11 AM
Just try logging in, I didn't get my email yet, but I tried for shits and giggles and got in immediately.

And, I registered on July 21.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Amaron on December 13, 2011, 04:10:20 AM
Yea some of my guildies are in and I'm listening to them on Vent.  Seems basically only first day pre orders are in at the moment.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 13, 2011, 04:12:07 AM
I seemed to have exercised massive amounts of patience and self control, because it appears I pre-ordered on the 22nd :oh_i_see:

And that is why patience never pays off.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Amaron on December 13, 2011, 04:13:48 AM
Is there some place to look at when you added the code?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 13, 2011, 04:16:04 AM
First two characters registered for name claiming rights.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Amaron on December 13, 2011, 04:19:33 AM
So apparently you can see when you entered the code by going to the code redeem page in the account thing.   I redeemed on the 22nd as well.   They are clearly being way too cautious.   They let in like 750,000 people on the one weekend and had no problems.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Jherad on December 13, 2011, 04:21:06 AM
Probably why they added on a couple of extra days. Ease things in on the first couple of days before they open the floodgates.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Tyrnan on December 13, 2011, 04:21:46 AM
So apparently you can see when you entered the code by going to the code redeem page in the account thing.   I redeemed on the 22nd as well.   They are clearly being way too cautious.   They let in like 750,000 people on the one weekend and had no problems.

Yeah, I bought on the 21st but didn't realise I had to enter a code until the 22nd  :ye_gods: (I foolishly assumed pre-ordering through Origin would have been enough). Oh well, later today hopefully. Just need to find something else to do rather than hit F5 and check my email every 5 minutes...


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sobelius on December 13, 2011, 04:23:12 AM
I'm in. Made my toon, etc. Pre-order code entered July 21.

Received no email about being in yet -- just launched game to see before I go to work and now I'll be late for work :)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 13, 2011, 04:25:12 AM
First one in BC.  :drill:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Jherad on December 13, 2011, 04:28:17 AM
I didn't register until 9/5... I'm still going to be F5ing all day though.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lantyssa on December 13, 2011, 04:31:31 AM
Off to work.  We'll see if I'm in by the time I get home late this evening.  I'm expecting Thursday or Friday though.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 13, 2011, 04:35:55 AM
First two seven characters registered for name claiming rights.
Might be first game I got my first choice for my names....including Sky!

Registered code first day.
First one in BC.  :drill:
More like second. Bwahaha!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 13, 2011, 04:58:02 AM
Hm.. preorder says I registered 7/28.  Didn't think I waited that long it must have taken Best Buy a while to get me my code.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Zephyr on December 13, 2011, 05:11:38 AM
I pre-ordered on the 21st as well, but later in the evening after I got home from work.  No invite for the first wave.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Amaron on December 13, 2011, 05:20:42 AM
I have to say this is the stupidest plan I've ever seen for letting people into early access.   They can't even tell people when they'll let in the next wave today?  They're getting their panties in an awful twist over the possibility that their servers might be just a little bit overcrowded.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 05:23:33 AM
I have to say this is the stupidest plan I've ever seen for letting people into early access.   They can't even tell people when they'll let in the next wave today?  They're getting their panties in an awful twist over the possibility that their servers might be just a little bit overcrowded.

Sounds to me like you're getting your panties in a twist over a game giving people the opportunity to play it almost a week before it's officially sanctioned to launch, at which point none of this pants-on-head silly argument will even matter  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Amaron on December 13, 2011, 05:29:18 AM
Sounds to me like you're getting your panties in a twist over a game giving people the opportunity to play it almost a week before it's officially sanctioned to launch, at which point none of this pants-on-head silly argument will even matter  :oh_i_see:

Actually I'm just annoyed I woke up at the butt crack of dawn and they can't even tell me if I can go back to sleep.

Edit:  NM second wave just went out and I'm in  :drill:.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 13, 2011, 05:31:50 AM
Have you tried posting to the official forums, Am?  If they're truly subscriber-only you shouldn't be able to post w/o it being active.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Tyrnan on December 13, 2011, 05:34:38 AM
2nd wave just went out and I got in  :grin: Registered on 22nd


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 13, 2011, 05:35:27 AM
I have to say this is the stupidest plan I've ever seen for letting people into early access.   They can't even tell people when they'll let in the next wave today?  They're getting their panties in an awful twist over the possibility that their servers might be just a little bit overcrowded.

Sounds to me like you're getting your panties in a twist over a game giving people the opportunity to play it almost a week before it's officially sanctioned to launch, at which point none of this pants-on-head silly argument will even matter  :oh_i_see:

Well it is a rather moronic way to let people into an early release. Day-of emails (given all their problems with even sending emails) are a pretty dumb way to spring access on people. So they either are doing some RNG drawing to see who will be in today, or they have the schedule of accounts for access and they are being dicks about not releasing that. It won't matter in a week or two, sure... but it matters now - which is all that is really important in a gamer's mentality. It also makes me raise an eyebrow as to how much other shit down the road they are going to be bitchy secretive about.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 13, 2011, 05:36:25 AM
Sounds to me like you're getting your panties in a twist over a game giving people the opportunity to play it almost a week before it's officially sanctioned to launch, at which point none of this pants-on-head silly argument will even matter  :oh_i_see:

Actually I'm just annoyed I woke up at the butt crack of dawn and they can't even tell me if I can go back to sleep.

Edit:  NM second wave just went out and I'm in  :drill:.

OH MY GOD I REGISTERED THE SAME DAY AS YOU AND I DIDN'T GET A MAIL WTF BIOWARE WHY DO YOU HAVE TO MISTREAT YOUR CUSTOMERS LIKE THIS I HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL GOD DAMN DAY I AM NEVER EVER GOING TO BUY ANOTHER BIOWARE (AUSTIN) GAME AFTER THIS ONE !!!!

Am I doing it right?   :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mazakiel on December 13, 2011, 05:39:08 AM
I'm in.  Registered first day of pre-orders. 


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Zetor on December 13, 2011, 05:40:09 AM
I'm in. Preorder registered on Jul 22. I'm also an Euro, so it looks like we aren't getting the short end of the stick for once  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 05:40:23 AM
OH MY GOD I REGISTERED THE SAME DAY AS YOU AND I DIDN'T GET A MAIL WTF BIOWARE WHY DO YOU HAVE TO MISTREAT YOUR CUSTOMERS LIKE THIS I HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL GOD DAMN DAY I AM NEVER EVER GOING TO BUY ANOTHER BIOWARE (AUSTIN) GAME AFTER THIS ONE !!!!

Am I doing it right?   :grin:

YESSSSSSSSS   :drill: :Love_Letters:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Falconeer on December 13, 2011, 05:45:04 AM
I preordered two copies in September in two different online stores, Amazon and Play.com. And from both, I only received the redeemable code on November 2nd, more than 45 days later. I checked, and on both accounts it confirms I redeemed on November 2nd. Maybe things were different in Europe, so I need some feedback here: when is the earliest Europeans got their "early access" codes? No matter when I ordered, it's like I couldn't do anything before November 2nd.

EDIT: Ok, read post from Zetor.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Zetor on December 13, 2011, 05:49:10 AM
I preordered through origin (yeah I know), and received my preorder code right away. I know that origin is an evil rootkit and whatnot, but I won't need to install it anyway.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 05:50:16 AM
I preordered through origin (yeah I know), and received my preorder code right away. I know that origin is an evil rootkit and whatnot, but I won't need to install it anyway.  :awesome_for_real:

Doesn't matter.  You already signed the EULA saying that if they ever "Oops" with your account/billing info, it's not their fault nor can you take them to court.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: caladein on December 13, 2011, 05:52:10 AM
Wave 2's cooler than Wave 1. :drill:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 05:54:36 AM
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=1731

Quote
Hey everyone, good morning and welcome to the first day of Early Game Access for Star Wars: The Old Republic!

We're granting access based solely on when people's pre-orders were redeemed, and we're going to be granting it in 'waves' - large batches of emails and game entitlements that will go out over the course of today (and tomorrow, and the next day, and so on).

I'll be updating this thread (and this post) as we send out more 'waves' of invites.

So far today, we have sent out two 'waves' of invites; we will be sending more later on, but I cannot be specific on timing. (Why? Because as we invite each wave, we monitor to see how servers are performing and so on. If everything is good, we'll send a 'wave' earlier; we in fact sent 'wave 2' ahead of schedule. So cross your fingers.)

Now, to the question you all have: when will you be invited? Well, I cannot be specific to individuals or even to dates, because again, we have to remain flexible. That said, I can talk a little about the pattern of pre-orders.

At the very beginning of pre-orders, which started on July 21st, we had a massive influx of pre-orders. A huge spike. After that, things settled down. As a result, today especially, you're going to see a fairly narrow band of dates from those admitted to Early Game Access. From tomorrow, it'll spread out to a wider date range.

That's about as specific as we're going to get right now. However, as we send more waves I'll update this thread/post with more information. Thanks for your patience - we know it's been a long road, but you'll be playing before too long.
Stephen Reid | Senior Online Community Manager


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lantyssa on December 13, 2011, 06:01:19 AM
Well it is a rather moronic way to let people into an early release. Day-of emails (given all their problems with even sending emails) are a pretty dumb way to spring access on people. So they either are doing some RNG drawing to see who will be in today, or they have the schedule of accounts for access and they are being dicks about not releasing that. It won't matter in a week or two, sure... but it matters now - which is all that is really important in a gamer's mentality. It also makes me raise an eyebrow as to how much other shit down the road they are going to be bitchy secretive about.
More likely they're watching server load and network traffic and basing when to send the next round on how the servers are holding up.  They may have a general idea, but nothing was set except the first wave.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 13, 2011, 06:02:21 AM
Really, this is all quite reasonable as far as I am concerned.  I can't blame them for wanting things to go buttery smooth.

That said, if I don't get my email soon, somebody is going to die.

Edit:  Aaaaaaand apparently making threats on this boards works for some reason, because not 10 minutes after this post, I received my email.  You can all breath easier now.  Of course, I'm not at home or anything to do something with all my wonderful access, but it's the principle of the thing.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 13, 2011, 06:10:16 AM
I preordered through origin (yeah I know), and received my preorder code right away. I know that origin is an evil rootkit and whatnot, but I won't need to install it anyway.  :awesome_for_real:

Doesn't matter.  You already signed the EULA saying that if they ever "Oops" with your account/billing info, it's not their fault nor can you take them to court.
That's just boilerplate and doesn't necessarily hold up in the European markets.  There was a link a few years back of someone in Britain getting a successful refund from either WoW or WAR because they knew which banking laws to quote at the CS robots.  (Or was that someone here.. now I can't remember.)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 06:11:33 AM
I preordered through origin (yeah I know), and received my preorder code right away. I know that origin is an evil rootkit and whatnot, but I won't need to install it anyway.  :awesome_for_real:

Doesn't matter.  You already signed the EULA saying that if they ever "Oops" with your account/billing info, it's not their fault nor can you take them to court.
That's just boilerplate and doesn't necessarily hold up in the European markets.  There was a link a few years back of someone in Britain getting a successful refund from either WoW or WAR because they knew which banking laws to quote at the CS robots.  (Or was that someone here.. now I can't remember.)

That was a Steam thing.  Which is understandable, since Steam is  :awesome_for_real:.  Origin?  Ehhh, not so much.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Zetor on December 13, 2011, 06:18:37 AM
Remember that I'm a Hungarian. CC/bank fraud is in our blood! The entire country was blacklisted from paypal / ebay for ~10 years due to the insanely high fraud rate.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2011, 06:24:11 AM
Yeah, beside the obvious frustration in not being able to reach something that is well in front of you (and, like I said, I'll probably get in on the 18 or even the 19th, so I get the feeling), I think this staggered launch might prove as an excellent (and working) idea, if by the end of it everything goes well.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: kildorn on December 13, 2011, 06:37:34 AM
Either everyone should be in, or this isn't based on preorder date. I preordered on 11/05. I'm in. I'm pretty surprised.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 13, 2011, 06:38:56 AM
Remember that I'm a Hungarian. CC/bank fraud is in our blood! The entire country was blacklisted from paypal / ebay for ~10 years due to the insanely high fraud rate.

Basing this entirely on the Hungarian woman I dated and their community of 1st and 2nd gen Hungarian and Romanian immigrants in the Cleveland area, I'm going to agree that you're all pathological liars and it's in your blood.   :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: eldaec on December 13, 2011, 06:42:02 AM
Death to all preorders.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Draegan on December 13, 2011, 06:50:33 AM
Sitting at work so I can't do much, but I pre-ordered on the 23rd of July and I haven't gotten an email. Boohoo.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Der Helm on December 13, 2011, 06:52:55 AM
I entered my pre-order code the day before yesterday. Wonder when I will get in. On their frontpage there is still an advertisement for pre-orders (get up to 5 days for free), so I am optimistic to play before the day is over.  :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Nebu on December 13, 2011, 07:23:37 AM
I pre-ordered on July 21 and got into early access this morning.  Sadly, I'm at work knowing that "Nebu" will be gone by the time that I get home.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 13, 2011, 07:28:42 AM
Entered my pre-order code on 21st...

... November. so i'm cool.

really

 :heartbreak:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: murdoc on December 13, 2011, 07:31:08 AM
I preordered on July 21 and got into early access this morning.  Sadly, I'm at work knowing that "Nebu" will be gone by the time that I get home.

What copy of the game you bought has no bearing.  It's simply when you put your pre-order code in. 

I'll believe it when I get the email.  Until then, I remain skeptical.   :grin:

I guess it's actually going how they said it would.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Miasma on December 13, 2011, 07:32:28 AM
I pre-ordered on July 21 and got into early access this morning.  Sadly, I'm at work knowing that "Nebu" will be gone by the time that I get home.
Couldn't someone in right now save it for you?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Amaron on December 13, 2011, 07:38:50 AM
You all think they are being reasonable but on my server there are currently only 40 republic logged in.   They're just being stupid level paranoid.   The zones are dead empty and there isn't even a second instance open.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Draegan on December 13, 2011, 07:41:18 AM
I could of sworn they told you when you entered your code in your account summary page.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Paelos on December 13, 2011, 07:43:58 AM
I got in and can't use it until Thursday. So, oh well.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Thrawn on December 13, 2011, 07:45:33 AM
You all think they are being reasonable but on my server there are currently only 40 republic logged in

US it's 8-11AM on a Tuesday morning.  Kids are in school, people are at work, bums with time to play are still in bed.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rasix on December 13, 2011, 07:46:51 AM
In and.. at work.  Was going to "work at home" today, but then my wife decided to do the same.  Kind of throws water all over my nefarious plot.  

I have plans in motion for Thursday/Friday.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2011, 07:57:17 AM
I'm keeping an eye on the server status page on the official website (dunno if it's up to speed compared to the in-gamel ist) and servers are slowly (and nicely) filling up as time goes by. They just have to fix the glitch so that the "N/A" ones actually shows in the Europe sub-section.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Outlawedprod on December 13, 2011, 08:01:07 AM
Official US Server Status
http://www.swtor.com/server-status
>Dreshdae Cantina

Official ALL Server List
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=254
>Drunk Side Cantina

I guess I know what Dreshdae  means now =p


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2011, 08:03:21 AM
Third Wave sent


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: VainEldritch on December 13, 2011, 08:03:50 AM
It all seems to be going swimmingly.

Official forums are predictably hilarious, of course.

Early hours, and the tidal wave has yet to hit - but thus far it bodes well methinks.  


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Miasma on December 13, 2011, 08:08:12 AM
In on third wave, entered code 7/23.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2011, 08:28:33 AM
Judging from the tweet, there is only one more wave to go for today....*ducks*


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 13, 2011, 08:28:57 AM
I could of sworn they told you when you entered your code in your account summary page.

Yes. My account -> code redemption. It shows the date there.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Draegan on December 13, 2011, 08:53:23 AM
July 23rd here and I'm in.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 13, 2011, 08:56:56 AM
I'm fooked. Because of best buy, I only got in last month to put in my code.

Anyway, wow, the forums.  :popcorn:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ghambit on December 13, 2011, 08:57:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/sA642.jpg) (http://imgur.com/sA642)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2011, 08:59:21 AM
Yep, I'm entertained !  :grin:

The butthurt is strong in a lot of people, today.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ghambit on December 13, 2011, 09:00:08 AM
Btw, can I pay someone to trade places with me?  srsly.  If you've got to work (I dont right now) or something and can wait till say the weekend, I'll make it worth your while.   :argh: :tantrum: :angryfist: :mob: :dead_horse: :facepalm:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2011, 09:06:50 AM
Yeah, let's call!!

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=4381

Or even better:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=4259

Fat bums vs Soldiers, round 1 !


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 13, 2011, 09:27:05 AM
I can't remember this level of froth for a MMO release, ever.  Even WoW had haters and cynics .. and Geldon doomcasting.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: trias_e on December 13, 2011, 09:35:11 AM
11/28 preorder here.   :awesome_for_real:

I just hope I get in by Sunday.  I work Friday night and all day Saturday.  Sunday is my chance to catass.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Viin on December 13, 2011, 09:36:46 AM
My pre-order was 9-7-2011, so hopefully tomorrow?  :sad_panda:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Nonentity on December 13, 2011, 09:40:24 AM
Mine was on July 26th, because of stupid Origin account BS, I had to pre-order a second copy to apply it to my main account.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Minvaren on December 13, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
I can't remember this level of froth for a MMO release, ever.

Your observations mirror my own, good sir.   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 13, 2011, 09:43:41 AM
I can't remember this level of froth for a MMO release, ever.

Your observations mirror my own, good sir.   :oh_i_see:

Maybe we're just old and forgetful.


The official forums are fantastic.  Thanks for pointing that out, all.   "Hey.. let's not let everyone in at the same time but we'll go ahead and let them on the forums.  What's the worst that could happen?"   :drill: :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Numtini on December 13, 2011, 09:44:08 AM
Wow had a lot of haters on launch day because the servers kept crashing, which is exactly why they're doing this.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: ajax34i on December 13, 2011, 09:46:48 AM
If it helps, there are a few people (possibly just one, actually) who aren't interested in the whole rush to play this game on day one.  I'm looking at probably getting it in January (I still have to open Skyrim and play it - waiting for a UI patch - should keep me entertained for a while). 

But, reading the official boards is fun, heh.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ghambit on December 13, 2011, 09:55:42 AM
Only soloers dont care about gettin in on launch day.  Everyone else typically does, as this means you'll likely be leveling with someone outside of your guild since people are spread out over a 7 day launch window.

It's kind of the genius grief of all time.  Take the most successful IP ever, make a big aaa mmo with it, taunt people with vague launch/early access details, then come release time let em know that they're not letting everyone in...  and furthermore, you get to watch everyone else play while they wait for an unforeseen email to arrive.

Classy.   :oh_i_see:  Yet brilliant.   :drill:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Threash on December 13, 2011, 09:57:44 AM
Wow running animations are horrible.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 13, 2011, 10:09:09 AM
They get worse if you make your character fatter.

The max-slider Human Female Smuggler I made was HORRIBLE.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 13, 2011, 10:23:37 AM
Only soloers dont care about gettin in on launch day.  Everyone else typically does, as this means you'll likely be leveling with someone outside of your guild since people are spread out over a 7 day launch window.

It's kind of the genius grief of all time.  Take the most successful IP ever, make a big aaa mmo with it, taunt people with vague launch/early access details, then come release time let em know that they're not letting everyone in...  and furthermore, you get to watch everyone else play while they wait for an unforeseen email to arrive.

Classy.   :oh_i_see:  Yet brilliant.   :drill:

Oh the PvP servers will be absolutely fantastic!  :uhrr:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: sam, an eggplant on December 13, 2011, 10:27:34 AM
I can't remember this level of froth for a MMO release, ever.  Even WoW had haters and cynics .. and Geldon doomcasting.
Wasn't he banned? That's why, then.

Also I got in, but I preordered on 7/21 so I kinda expected that.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: jakonovski on December 13, 2011, 10:35:42 AM
EU Origin authentication servers are down and you can't log in. Great job EA!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Numtini on December 13, 2011, 10:42:46 AM
I find the pre-assignment implications really interesting.

Half the servers full before the end of work and that's just a few waves from people who preordered six months ago? It'll be interesting how the whole thing shakes out. Adding servers won't alleviate crowding quite as much because guilds are already assigned. Though I've seen migrations from The Fatman because of the name and from some server because it's the "unofficial Latino" one and they don't want to be the only English speakers.

I assume they will add more servers come retail release and provided there aren't mass guild migrations, those servers won't have any established guilds. I wonder what the social/achievement differences will be from that.

BTW it's not the running animations that are terrible, it's the animations in general that are terrible. At least imho.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: ajax34i on December 13, 2011, 10:54:46 AM
Only soloers dont care about gettin in on launch day. 

I'm not a soloer.

Not everyone levels up at the same time, even if they try to.  There are always discrepancies between class / AC builds, schedules, whatever.  It's arguably possible to make up 7 "lost" days by having a populated auction house, access to mods that improve effectiveness, access to fleshed-out guides / item databases, etc.

As for the guild, I'll happily level behind them and then accept their gracious invitations to purple me up with the leftovers that no one needs anymore cause they've all got them.  Though, typically, they don't powerlevel in order to raid, either, and have never, ever, been first in anything.

I'm a casual player, if that's what you meant.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Paelos on December 13, 2011, 11:00:16 AM
I don't care about the early late thing since almost nobody starts doing anything for the first month in my guilds anyway. Then, when everyone gets their shit together, you're max level until the next expansion.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cadaverine on December 13, 2011, 11:10:49 AM
I only care about getting into early access because there's not enough stress in my life, and fighting over spawns in the starter area with a bunch of barely literate mouthbreathers sounds like just the thing to get my blood pressure up.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 13, 2011, 11:13:27 AM
That's kind of a reason I think the waves are a good idea. By tomorrow, those areas will be mostly empty. Took me better part of a day to get off the second planet, I'm sure others will be faster.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Threash on December 13, 2011, 11:23:41 AM
I thought there was an actual robot race, cyborgs are just humans with fancy bluetooths.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rasix on December 13, 2011, 11:24:27 AM
Is this like the first you've seen of the game?  Psst, it's a DIKU too.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Threash on December 13, 2011, 11:26:41 AM
Yes this is the first i've seen of it, so far i'm very not impressed.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Paelos on December 13, 2011, 11:40:22 AM
Yes this is the first i've seen of it, so far i'm very not impressed.

Don't like the animations or graphics?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Threash on December 13, 2011, 11:48:03 AM
That, and the combat feels "off".  Story is good though but the gameplay is pretty meh.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 13, 2011, 11:51:34 AM
Death From Above is the greatest thing ever.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: murdoc on December 13, 2011, 12:16:37 PM
Death From Above is the greatest thing ever.

FACT


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Paelos on December 13, 2011, 12:18:46 PM
That, and the combat feels "off".  Story is good though but the gameplay is pretty meh.

That seems to be pretty standard. I think it's one of those games that grabs you by the nuts or doesn't. If you like story and running about killing womprats with dialogue wheels, you'll be fine.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sobelius on December 13, 2011, 12:23:39 PM
Went home for lunch and played (created 6 different toons and got a couple up to level 3).

I liked that the starting area was relatively free of massive numbers of people doing the same starting quests -- let me actually fight through some of the mobs I was supposed to encounter along the way rather than just trip over the dead bodies left by others running ahead.

That said, that early access forum thread is generating 100 pages every half hour. :eek3:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Paelos on December 13, 2011, 12:27:27 PM
We feast on their tears.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 12:27:54 PM
All waves for today are out.  Let the gnashing of many teeth begin.   :angryfist:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Pezzle on December 13, 2011, 12:30:11 PM
Made it in on the first wave.  First day preorder etc.  Played a tiny bit this morning, now at work and after work I get to go fix family computers.  Oh well, it is just an early start.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Reg on December 13, 2011, 12:30:21 PM
I got my email early this morning but couldn't log in til a couple of hours ago. I've reserved all eight of my character names and so far I'm as happy as a pathetic, basement dwelling Bioware fan boy can be!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: murdoc on December 13, 2011, 12:30:51 PM
I just want to get in early enough so that I can claim my unoriginal names.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2011, 12:36:03 PM
Michael, I summon thee!!!

(http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1311620085836.gif)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 01:06:59 PM
Steve lets loose his pride, finds a polite way of explaining why things are the way they are with this rollout, along with giving the competition the verbal finger.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=66561&postcount=6438

Quote
Hey everyone.

We absolutely understand you want to get in and play the game early. It's one of the reasons we expanded our Early Game Access from a maximum of five days to a maximum of seven days. However, there are a couple of important points to realize about today's opening salvo of invites, and the procedure in general for Early Game Access and launch.

First, Early Game Access and launch is not supposed to be a stress test. In our previous Beta Testing Weekends we got up to very large concurrent number of players and brought invites into the game at a very high rate. That was done to stress test every aspect of our systems and servers, and essentially to see if they broke. In some cases, they did, but that helped us improve for launch.

For us, launch isn't just about stuffing our servers with as many people as possible. As anyone who's been through a large MMO launch can tell you, that experience can be painful. Our aim with this launch was to ramp things up gradually, to spread our player population out amongst a variety of servers, to maintain all server types, and to keep queuing to a minimum (although we expect that to happen as we head towards December 20th). So far, all that has been successful for us on Day One.

The second thing to realize is scale. We invited more people to play Star Wars: The Old Republic today than many other MMO launches manage in their entire head-start process. As I mentioned earlier today, when we opened pre-orders we had a huge spike in numbers - far more than most MMOs capture at launch. That was the initial rush. After that, our pre-orders settled down.

What this means is that tomorrow, you'll effectively start to see the pre-order timeline expand. You'll see people who have pre-ordered later than July getting invites. The day after that, more people will be invited. We're actually planning to invite more tomorrow than today, and invite the same number again on Thursday - at which point we'll be into the original 'five days of Early Game Access'.

Last thing. Why aren't we continuing to send waves over time? Two main reasons - one, because we need to see that the servers are maintaining stability over time; adding a lot of players in a short period (in other words, stress testing) can cause stability issues.

Two, our plan is to continue to add servers - but carefully, and in response to demand. We need to monitor that demand and roll out servers accordingly. A long-term recipe for MMO failure is to add a lot of servers early on, and then when population decreases, have to close those servers and merge them together.

Our aim is for Star Wars: The Old Republic to be around for a long time to come. Today's just the first step in that - an early step, too - and we'll be running smoothly, with a stable population, before too long.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2011, 01:15:41 PM
Heh, a post like this shouldn't even be needed, but unfortunately it is when your forum vocal minority is composed by spoiled brats that just don't get it. Goddamn kids.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Nevermore on December 13, 2011, 01:18:51 PM
But what about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!  :tantrum:

The above is a parody and not to be construed as the actual opinion of this poster.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Pezzle on December 13, 2011, 01:26:43 PM
WHY CAN I NOT PLAY FOR FREE A GAME I HAVE NOT PAID FOR!!!  THIS IS SO UNFAIR!!!  EVERYONE CANCEL YOUR SUBS OUT OF FAIRNESS TO THE PEOPLE OF URUGUAY    :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rokal on December 13, 2011, 01:47:18 PM
I got my invite for my canceled pre-order a few hours ago. Just thought you'd want to know  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Pezzle on December 13, 2011, 01:52:47 PM
I got my invite for my canceled pre-order a few hours ago. Just thought you'd want to know  :why_so_serious:

Heh, that one needs to go on the official forums.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 13, 2011, 02:31:07 PM
:heartbreak:

Not that I expected to get in today, but still.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ghambit on December 13, 2011, 02:37:38 PM
I got my invite for my canceled pre-order a few hours ago. Just thought you'd want to know  :why_so_serious:

You're a dumbass.  I woulda bought it from you.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 02:47:33 PM
:heartbreak:

Not that I expected to get in today, but still.

Same.  I registered in mid September if I recall correctly.  I think I've got a good chance for tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rokal on December 13, 2011, 03:12:58 PM
My pre-order was placed on July 25th and I got my invite around 1 PM est, if that gives you some sort of gauge where invites are.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Tannhauser on December 13, 2011, 03:30:14 PM
Steve lets loose his pride, finds a polite way of explaining why things are the way they are with this rollout, along with giving the competition the verbal finger.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=66561&postcount=6438

Quote
Hey everyone.

We absolutely understand you want to get in and play the game early. It's one of the reasons we expanded our Early Game Access from a maximum of five days to a maximum of seven days. However, there are a couple of important points to realize about today's opening salvo of invites, and the procedure in general for Early Game Access and launch.

First, Early Game Access and launch is not supposed to be a stress test. In our previous Beta Testing Weekends we got up to very large concurrent number of players and brought invites into the game at a very high rate. That was done to stress test every aspect of our systems and servers, and essentially to see if they broke. In some cases, they did, but that helped us improve for launch.

For us, launch isn't just about stuffing our servers with as many people as possible. As anyone who's been through a large MMO launch can tell you, that experience can be painful. Our aim with this launch was to ramp things up gradually, to spread our player population out amongst a variety of servers, to maintain all server types, and to keep queuing to a minimum (although we expect that to happen as we head towards December 20th). So far, all that has been successful for us on Day One.

The second thing to realize is scale. We invited more people to play Star Wars: The Old Republic today than many other MMO launches manage in their entire head-start process. As I mentioned earlier today, when we opened pre-orders we had a huge spike in numbers - far more than most MMOs capture at launch. That was the initial rush. After that, our pre-orders settled down.

What this means is that tomorrow, you'll effectively start to see the pre-order timeline expand. You'll see people who have pre-ordered later than July getting invites. The day after that, more people will be invited. We're actually planning to invite more tomorrow than today, and invite the same number again on Thursday - at which point we'll be into the original 'five days of Early Game Access'.

Last thing. Why aren't we continuing to send waves over time? Two main reasons - one, because we need to see that the servers are maintaining stability over time; adding a lot of players in a short period (in other words, stress testing) can cause stability issues.

Two, our plan is to continue to add servers - but carefully, and in response to demand. We need to monitor that demand and roll out servers accordingly. A long-term recipe for MMO failure is to add a lot of servers early on, and then when population decreases, have to close those servers and merge them together.

Our aim is for Star Wars: The Old Republic to be around for a long time to come. Today's just the first step in that - an early step, too - and we'll be running smoothly, with a stable population, before too long.

Might be wishful thinking, but it sounds to me like they are going to cave a bit and let more folks in tomorrow than they originally planned.

Sept 27th here.  I hope for tomorrow but expect Thursday.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sobelius on December 13, 2011, 03:52:52 PM
Steve lets loose his pride, finds a polite way of explaining why things are the way they are with this rollout, along with giving the competition the verbal finger.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=66561&postcount=6438

Quote
..
What this means is that tomorrow, you'll effectively start to see the pre-order timeline expand. You'll see people who have pre-ordered later than July getting invites. The day after that, more people will be invited. We're actually planning to invite more tomorrow than today, and invite the same number again on Thursday - at which point we'll be into the original 'five days of Early Game Access'.
...

Might be wishful thinking, but it sounds to me like they are going to cave a bit and let more folks in tomorrow than they originally planned.

Sept 27th here.  I hope for tomorrow but expect Thursday.


It sounds like they're aiming to give everyone who pre-ordered before Dec 13th the possibility of getting 5 full days of early access. If they do, props to them.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ginaz on December 13, 2011, 09:41:34 PM
Fuck theres a lot of whiny cry babies complaining about not getting in EARLY...on the HEADSTART...BEFORE the game is officially released. :oh_i_see:  People are actually cancelling their pre-orders because they didn't in today.  And that is why we can't have nice things. :argh:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Nevermore on December 13, 2011, 09:45:38 PM
Good! The more babies that cancel, the quicker I'll get in!  :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 13, 2011, 09:50:32 PM
  And that is why we can't have nice things. :argh:
Actually...the rest of us get nice things and they sulk. Win-win.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rasix on December 13, 2011, 09:51:45 PM
Is the wrong time to say that due to me having to cancel and re-preorder, I had a spare early access key I never used?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Riggswolfe on December 13, 2011, 10:05:16 PM
I got in early this morning and immediately made 8 characters, 4 republic, 4 imperial. I may ask you guys to recruit my Imps into BC though I suspect I'll rarely play them, at least for awhile.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 13, 2011, 10:05:32 PM
Everyone should tell Kildorn to go fuck himself, though. EVERYONE.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: kildorn on December 13, 2011, 10:09:07 PM
Everyone should tell Kildorn to go fuck himself, though. EVERYONE.

:(

Me and the other 6 people on Taris.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Nevermore on December 13, 2011, 10:25:07 PM
I'm pretty sure that Kildy employed hax.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ginaz on December 13, 2011, 10:34:26 PM
I just want to get in and reserve the names I want before I go home and visit my parents, which will be on 20 Dec.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 13, 2011, 11:46:54 PM
Jesus H. Criminy.  It's a head start on a head start.  Free bonus time.  The people willing to actually give money to EA, you know, a significant infusion of capital for their project, are being lightly rewarded for their commitment.  The earlier you commit, the earlier the reward.  Anyone who complains about this in any way whatsoever is a bona-fide retard, and that probably includes at least two people in this very thread.  Here's hoping that your PSUs all fail, your GPU explodes in your face, or some other act of karma bites you in your dumb ass.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Wasted on December 14, 2011, 12:05:54 AM
Because the holier-than-thou counter whining is not obnoxious at all either  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 14, 2011, 12:11:23 AM
Because the holier-than-thou counter whining is not obnoxious at all either  :awesome_for_real:

I am just tired of living in a world where, despite being mathematically impossible, 95% of the people seem to be of below average intelligence.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2011, 12:11:44 AM
Especially since the people "whining" in this thread are like. Joking?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: kildorn on December 14, 2011, 12:18:53 AM
I was well and truly hurt by Sjofn's insults.

And then I remembered she's spending just after release in the wrong state <3

So anyways, for people who care: yeah, it seems "high" graphics settings got a pretty heavy boost. And they seem to be taking it really slow on the invites from what I've seen of the population numbers (sub 60 on the second planet around midnight est)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Nevermore on December 14, 2011, 12:23:49 AM
Because the holier-than-thou counter whining is not obnoxious at all either  :awesome_for_real:

I am just tired of living in a world where, despite being mathematically impossible, 95% of the people seem to be of below average intelligence.

Actually, it's mathematically very possible.  Now if you were talking about the median...


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2011, 12:27:41 AM
I was well and truly hurt by Sjofn's insults.

And then I remembered she's spending just after release in the wrong state <3

Stupid family. Even worse, Ingmar is talking about installing it on his laptop so HE can play while I ... I don't even know! Cry, I guess.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Nevermore on December 14, 2011, 12:30:24 AM
Or commander his laptop.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2011, 12:32:02 AM
That is also a possibility! Or I'll just fuss at him until he stops and we're BOTH unhappy.  :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 14, 2011, 01:02:11 AM
Especially since the people "whining" in this thread are like. Joking?

Not referring to your whining.  I think we can all tell the difference at this point.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Amaron on December 14, 2011, 04:27:18 AM
We kept checking the pop on our server all day yesterday and it never got over ~100 people on Republic.   It's PvP so figure maybe 230 people total at around 7pm.   I guess basically the problem is some servers have way more early pre orders than others.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 14, 2011, 04:29:35 AM
Comedy GOLD, Jerry!

Quote
So the people who have been exploiting/rushing, get to get to level 50, then go farm all the bind on equip items they can find, and they get to set the market price. Because they preorded between july 21st and july 28. It's ironic july 21st is my birthday, but i don't spend my life on the net, so i didn't know about the preorder until much more recently, but had i known, i could have preordered on day one with ease.

So basically finding out about preorders at a later date, makes you less entitled to play then the person who paid the same amount of money as you or perhaps less money then you based on what edition you bought. This whole thing is ********. People think that this won't effect the games economy. If thats the case, sadly you've never grasped the economy of any mmo you've played, because day one effects the market that exists a year down the track. So screw you bioware, thankyou for ruining the launch experience for 70-80% of your community. Elitist ********'s please refrain from posting on my thread, i don't want to hear about how you think we don't have the right to complain.

The fact is

-Bioware refers to it as a game launch

-Early access advertising for you, may have said "up to 5 days", but there are many examples where the advertisement simply december "EARLY ACCESS- DECEMBER 13TH"

-Bioware has failed to sufficiently inform their community as to whats going on, people have resorted to 'EDUCATED SPECULATION' as to when they'll get to play. People shouldn't be speculating when they'll be able to play a game, like most companies, you should have a fixed release date in which everyone is able to play at the same time

-Bioware has claimed it's not a stress test, but claims that letting more people in than what they did is a form of stress testing (Which is ********) the server proved it could hold up and to 2 million people during the final beta weekend. So why couldn't they begin with 2 million people this time.

-Go ahead. Complain that we're complaining, elitists. You are simply arguing for the sake of arguing, at least we have legitimet reasons as to why we can claim to be an unhappy/disatisfied customer, as opposed to complaining that people are using the forums to voice their opinion (which guess what, is what a forums for).



Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mattemeo on December 14, 2011, 04:40:57 AM
It's... beautiful...! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Yvash/smilies/crying.gif)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 14, 2011, 04:58:36 AM
The amount of self-absorption there is astounding. And that's coming from me, I'm an asshole.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: ajax34i on December 14, 2011, 05:00:59 AM
They should have said "We'll let people in based on the amount of praise they post / the amount of complaints in their posts."


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 14, 2011, 05:05:59 AM
My favorite response was, "Your Q key seems to be stuck."


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 14, 2011, 05:37:57 AM
I am actually very curious as to how high a level people get before "official" launch on the 20th. I think there should be a catass award with a plaque.  :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 14, 2011, 05:58:56 AM
Got my invite a few mins ago but I'm at work.  Those prior to 7/28 should all be in, looks like.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2011, 05:59:15 AM
First wave for today (14/12) has been sent; looking at the official forums, seems like it covered the timeframe 'til 6th-10th August.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lantyssa on December 14, 2011, 06:14:59 AM
Having a 10/11 pre-order is probably going to make it close.  Unless there was a rapid drop-off, guessing it's tomorrow for me.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: kildorn on December 14, 2011, 06:24:25 AM
*lords over being a bug in the system*

Seriously, how hard is it to sort accounts by register date, Bioware?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2011, 06:30:46 AM
In today's wave update, Stephen Reid reaffirm what he said yesterday about the wider timeframe for the Early Access mails:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=16391

Quote
Today, we're inviting many more people to play The Old Republic - more than yesterday, and over a much greater time span.

As explained yesterday, our initial pre-order rush was over a very short span (about a week). Today we'll be inviting well beyond July, but again, we're remaining cautious as we send each email wave.

We're currently planning on sending four waves of email invites today of equal size. We're going to get them out as fast as we can, while monitoring player counts and server population. I'll update this thread when each wave is sent. You can also follow our official Twitter account for notification.

Wave One was sent at 8AM CST (6AM PST / 9AM EST / 2PM GMT / 3PM CET).


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 14, 2011, 06:42:43 AM
We kept checking the pop on our server all day yesterday and it never got over ~100 people on Republic.   It's PvP so figure maybe 230 people total at around 7pm.   I guess basically the problem is some servers have way more early pre orders than others.
The server status page rather consistently showed the pvp servers to have lower population than the others which showed 'full'.

Quite possibly bulk of the "hardcore pvpers" who got access decided to roll on pve servers first, so they could whack foozles in peace.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: ajax34i on December 14, 2011, 06:47:09 AM
They're possibly also expecting to be able to transfer from PVE to PVP more easily than from PVP to PVE.  WoW had that restriction for a while.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 14, 2011, 06:52:00 AM
Do we even know server/toon transfer rules at this time? I suspect that's not something they care about right now though.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2011, 07:05:12 AM
Second wave sent: looks like we're quickly heading toward the end of August (and two more waves left, bar any bonus one).


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Der Helm on December 14, 2011, 07:07:34 AM
They're possibly also expecting to be able to transfer from PVE to PVP more easily than from PVP to PVE.  WoW had that restriction for a while.
Wasn't it the other way around ? I fail to see the advantage of leveling on a PvP-enabled server. Ask Nebu.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rendakor on December 14, 2011, 07:12:43 AM
It was indeed the other way around. You could transfer from PVP to PVE, but not PVP to PVE.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: murdoc on December 14, 2011, 07:37:25 AM
Second wave sent: looks like we're quickly heading toward the end of August (and two more waves left, bar any bonus one).

I got in on the 2nd wave and I entered my code on Aug 23rd.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 14, 2011, 07:42:22 AM
It was indeed the other way around. You could transfer from PVP to PVE, but not PVP to PVE.

 :uhrr:

What?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 14, 2011, 07:43:59 AM
Second wave sent: looks like we're quickly heading toward the end of August (and two more waves left, bar any bonus one).

I got in on the 2nd wave and I entered my code on Aug 23rd.

9/4 here...good chance for Wave 3 if not 4 for me today, me thinks  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 14, 2011, 07:44:32 AM
Second wave sent: looks like we're quickly heading toward the end of August (and two more waves left, bar any bonus one).

I got in on the 2nd wave and I entered my code on Aug 23rd.

9/4 here...good chance for Wave 3 if not 4 for me today, me thinks  :awesome_for_real:

Amateur - 11/30 here. HAR HAR!  :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Draegan on December 14, 2011, 07:45:17 AM
Death From Above is the greatest thing ever.

 :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

And this is for my victims:  :heartbreak:

This ability is wiiiiiiiiiiiiiin.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Tyrnan on December 14, 2011, 07:53:12 AM
Death From Above is the greatest thing ever.

 :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

And this is for my victims:  :heartbreak:

This ability is wiiiiiiiiiiiiiin.
The Trooper mirror skill (Mortar Volley I think?) is so disappointing in comparison. I died a little inside the first time I used it  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rendakor on December 14, 2011, 07:56:03 AM
It was indeed the other way around. You could transfer from PVP to PVE, but not PVP to PVE.

 :uhrr:

What?
The logic was that leveling on a PVP server was much harder than PVE, so in order to have a max level character on a PVP server you had to "earn it" and couldn't level one up on a carebear server and transfer in.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 14, 2011, 08:01:43 AM
Wave 3 is out!  Luckton is in!  Look out! :drill: :drill: :drill:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2011, 08:03:39 AM
Third wave sent; looks like the very end of august. Possibly we'll get to the beginning of september with the last wave.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 14, 2011, 08:05:17 AM
Third wave sent; looks like the very end of august. Possibly we'll get to the beginning of september with the last wave.

We're there.  9/4 here.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Draegan on December 14, 2011, 08:05:34 AM
I'd be willing to be money that EVERYONE will be in by the end of the day tomorrow.  So essentially Early Access "up to" the 15th that was previously posted will be for everyone.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 14, 2011, 08:06:25 AM
It was indeed the other way around. You could transfer from PVP to PVE, but not PVP to PVE.

 :uhrr:

What?
The logic was that leveling on a PVP server was much harder than PVE, so in order to have a max level character on a PVP server you had to "earn it" and couldn't level one up on a carebear server and transfer in.

I know what the logic was. The comment was aimed directly at the sentence in all its confusing glory.  :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2011, 08:08:50 AM
Yep, by reading the official forums ( :ye_gods:), with this wave we're already around the 10th of September....Beside the fact that pre-orders slowed down in the late august-september-october timeframe, it really looks like Bioware may speed things up  :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: CmdrSlack on December 14, 2011, 08:11:05 AM
Just got my email. I registered my code on 9/10.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: DraconianOne on December 14, 2011, 08:12:07 AM
Just got my email. I registered my code on 9/10.

9th October or 10th September?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 14, 2011, 08:17:16 AM
Yep, by reading the official forums ( :ye_gods:), with this wave we're already around the 10th of September....Beside the fact that pre-orders slowed down in the late august-september-october timeframe, it really looks like Bioware may speed things up  :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real:
I just know they'll let in people all way to November 20th today and then stop. :heartbreak:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Bunk on December 14, 2011, 08:20:31 AM
Wow, so my mid October date might come in to play today. I'm not sure if this is good or bad. Wonder if the boss would snap at me for requesting a short notice day off...


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: CmdrSlack on December 14, 2011, 08:31:35 AM
Just got my email. I registered my code on 9/10.

9th October or 10th September?

September.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucida on December 14, 2011, 08:47:46 AM
Sep 7th and I'm in. :D


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 14, 2011, 08:49:22 AM
Hmmm... I do have a personal day I can take and plenty of sick time... if I get in on Friday and get my new vid card, I might be tempted to call in with a nasty case of Typhoid.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: cironian on December 14, 2011, 08:52:00 AM
September 12th in with fourth wave.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Falconeer on December 14, 2011, 08:52:52 AM
In.

September 30th.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: kildorn on December 14, 2011, 08:53:34 AM
Well there goes the neighborhood. The great unwashed are in  :cry2:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: UD_Delt on December 14, 2011, 09:01:17 AM
Well there goes the neighborhood. The great unwashed are in  :cry2:

Not all the unwashed are in yet... Some of us didn't preorder until last week. =(

...


And hello to all from 3 years ago. Been a while since I've played an MMO so been a while since I've been 'round these parts of the interwebs.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Jherad on December 14, 2011, 09:08:51 AM
Yay, I'm in - 9/5
 :heart:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 14, 2011, 09:09:57 AM
This launch is bringing a few people out of the woodwork, it's cool! I think the last time I grouped with Chorulle was AO  :ye_gods:

As far as the unwarshed masses: HOW WILL THEY EVER OVERCOME MY COMPETETEV AVANTAGE OF 15 LEVELLS AND SETTING TEH MARKET PRICE ON TEH AH!?


MUAHAHAHAHAHHahahaHA


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 14, 2011, 09:14:34 AM
More worried about instances and grouping with people I know rather than the dregs... erm, THOSE dregs. Not our dregs.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sobelius on December 14, 2011, 09:23:11 AM
They're using the avatar body types to define server status:

Light
Standard
Heavy
Very Heavy


But they didn't allow Hutt Lord as a playable race, so we can't have Full as an avatar.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ghambit on December 14, 2011, 09:26:09 AM
More worried about instances and grouping with people I know rather than the dregs... erm, THOSE dregs. Not our dregs.

This is my main gripe.  They've effectively diminished the low-midgame grouping experience by making this launch maneuver, especially for the smaller guilds.  This is before considering the urge to powerlevel to catch up, instead of paying attn. to their beloved storyline.


I'd be willing to be money that EVERYONE will be in by the end of the day tomorrow.  So essentially Early Access "up to" the 15th that was previously posted will be for everyone.

How much money we talkin here?  Or perhaps a trade?  Say, if I don't get in tomorrow you give me your login for mine later.  And if I DO get in tomorrow I give you my login for yours tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Falconeer on December 14, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
as a useless piece of info:

As of now, my September 30th account is in. My October 2nd is not  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Tannhauser on December 14, 2011, 09:33:48 AM
In
Sept 27!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Furiously on December 14, 2011, 09:46:40 AM
Fourth wave sent... And my Oct 12 account still isn't in.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: UD_Delt on December 14, 2011, 09:48:26 AM

I'd be willing to be money that EVERYONE will be in by the end of the day tomorrow.  So essentially Early Access "up to" the 15th that was previously posted will be for everyone.

How much money we talkin here?  Or perhaps a trade?  Say, if I don't get in tomorrow you give me your login for mine later.  And if I DO get in tomorrow I give you my login for yours tomorrow.

I'm thinking it's a safe bet that everyone will be in tomorrow. Probably a ton of initial pre-orders, very few for a few months, then a decent number following the final beta weekend.

If they already got through July, August, and September that only leaves two really light months and one semi-heavy month (Dec.). I'm guessing the final email tomorrow will be everyone else. If not, then first email on the 16th.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 14, 2011, 09:50:46 AM
More worried about instances and grouping with people I know rather than the dregs... erm, THOSE dregs. Not our dregs.
A few of us played much of the day yesterday and were mid-teens. There were still a few in single digits (lol work); the low levels go pretty quick.

I'll be up for a couple more runs of BT (first flashpoint, low-mid teens) as people get odd the starter worlds; three runs NO PANTS. Well, I was wearing pants; I mean pants didn't drop. Not that I want people to drop their pants. FOR PANTS!

Another note: Mako can heal through BT. We ran it Powertech/Sniper/Assassin and only had trouble when our dipshit PT stood in the fire  :why_so_serious:

Other than that, I ran PUGs for the Dromund Kaas heroic stuff without any problems. We grouped for the mandalorian area and then hit the next one by the statue to get that done. For the Hutta stuff, I caught Cho's sniper just as I was going back at level 11 to clean up the heroic stuff before moving off-world and we duo'd it easy-peasy. A roundabout way of saying it shouldn't be too much of an issue tackling the low hanging group content.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ghambit on December 14, 2011, 09:57:39 AM
Im in!!  12/3













edit:  PSYCH!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mosesandstick on December 14, 2011, 10:14:51 AM
Thank god, I was afraid you were going to post on the official forums soon.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 14, 2011, 10:17:00 AM
Interesting, pretty much all US servers show the load in light-standard range. Either not many people are free at home and able to play yet, or BW might be tempted to slip in some extra wave given that.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 14, 2011, 10:18:36 AM
Not peak time yet.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rasix on December 14, 2011, 10:18:41 AM
It's the middle of the day on a Wednesday.  I think they'll wait until the evenings to make that call.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: murdoc on December 14, 2011, 10:19:59 AM
The server I was on had 2 instances of Hutta going and 21 people in the one I was in.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ingmar on December 14, 2011, 10:20:38 AM
In  :heart:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 14, 2011, 10:24:25 AM
They let in anybirdie nowadays.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lantyssa on December 14, 2011, 10:32:34 AM
But they didn't allow Hutt Lord as a playable race, so we can't have Full as an avatar.
A Hutt is never full.

Fourth wave sent... And my Oct 12 account still isn't in.
Auurrrgh.  I'm 10/11.  I'm probably going to be first wave tomorrow, and I'll have to sit at work all day knowing it.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: ghost on December 14, 2011, 10:45:18 AM
I'm in.   :heart:

I can't believe it took so fucking long. 


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: sam, an eggplant on December 14, 2011, 11:05:18 AM
The server I was on had 2 instances of Hutta going and 21 people in the one I was in.
My server (Mind Trick) had 85 Hutta instances yesterday. Dromund Kaas had 125. There were tons of people playing.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2011, 11:15:42 AM
Peaktime in Europe and servers are filling up nice and slow, judging from the website page. Everything's fine... :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 14, 2011, 11:16:10 AM
It ramped up pretty quick in the afternoon.
They let in anybirdie nowadays.
A Hutt is never full.
I can't believe it took so fucking long. 
:oh_i_see: Someone let these people in, it's getting thick in here.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 14, 2011, 11:16:48 AM
Auurrrgh.  I'm 10/11.  I'm probably going to be first wave tomorrow, and I'll have to sit at work all day knowing it.

Not being able to play but knowing I would soon was bad.  Somehow, being in the first wave this morning has made the wait even worse.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: kildorn on December 14, 2011, 11:22:51 AM
In  :heart:

Does this mean sjofn doesn't hate me anymore?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Simond on December 14, 2011, 11:59:23 AM
Comedy GOLD, Jerry!

Quote
So the people who have been exploiting/rushing, get to get to level 50, then go farm all the bind on equip items they can find, and they get to set the market price. Because they preorded between july 21st and july 28. It's ironic july 21st is my birthday, but i don't spend my life on the net, so i didn't know about the preorder until much more recently, but had i known, i could have preordered on day one with ease.

So basically finding out about preorders at a later date, makes you less entitled to play then the person who paid the same amount of money as you or perhaps less money then you based on what edition you bought. This whole thing is ********. People think that this won't effect the games economy. If thats the case, sadly you've never grasped the economy of any mmo you've played, because day one effects the market that exists a year down the track. So screw you bioware, thankyou for ruining the launch experience for 70-80% of your community. Elitist ********'s please refrain from posting on my thread, i don't want to hear about how you think we don't have the right to complain.

The fact is

-Bioware refers to it as a game launch

-Early access advertising for you, may have said "up to 5 days", but there are many examples where the advertisement simply december "EARLY ACCESS- DECEMBER 13TH"

-Bioware has failed to sufficiently inform their community as to whats going on, people have resorted to 'EDUCATED SPECULATION' as to when they'll get to play. People shouldn't be speculating when they'll be able to play a game, like most companies, you should have a fixed release date in which everyone is able to play at the same time

-Bioware has claimed it's not a stress test, but claims that letting more people in than what they did is a form of stress testing (Which is ********) the server proved it could hold up and to 2 million people during the final beta weekend. So why couldn't they begin with 2 million people this time.

-Go ahead. Complain that we're complaining, elitists. You are simply arguing for the sake of arguing, at least we have legitimet reasons as to why we can claim to be an unhappy/disatisfied customer, as opposed to complaining that people are using the forums to voice their opinion (which guess what, is what a forums for).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbxaJqfAI6g


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: kildorn on December 14, 2011, 12:00:20 PM
Bioware needs to just replace their forums with a giant First World Problems image macro.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Furiously on December 14, 2011, 12:05:41 PM
No more invites today. So tomorrow for me.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ghambit on December 14, 2011, 12:32:06 PM
I read somewhere that this was EA's call and not BW's.  Dunno if that's true, but it'd make a lot more sense if that was the case.
This parsing of invites breaks more things than it fixes imo and reid's explanation also wasn't good enough unless you're an ignorant fanboi lemming.

Also been reading around the webz about many many markets already being cornered (even purpz already), gold farming being rampant, and a lot of day 1 folk who just cant find groups to play with and end up skipping content or are being forced to play alts (which doesnt help the starter zones).  Another interesting effect is the secondary gaming market (livestreamers for instance), wherein BW gets free advertising...  a lot of it is lost since there really is no day 1 rush and many contributors cant login yet.  And when they do, the zone is dead.  There's no '1st to 50,' 'first raid,' or any of that either now of course.  It's all been rendered dependent on pre-access.

The last effect I read on was that BW really doesnt have adequate server load/pop numbers now.  Since they're parsing invites rather than letting everyone in, they cant guage peak use in any node whatsoever until all invites are done.  When this point arrives, people/guilds will be too far along to switch servers once the untested realms pop queues.  Especially so on launch day.

Anyways, it's a borked launch model.  I much preferred Rift's launch style to any other MMO I've seen.  They had double the amount of necessary servers on tap if need be and opened extras the moment things got dicey.  You typically could find a stable server by day 2 and had many to choose from.  By actual launch day they had all the numbers they needed and things were near perfect for the late arrivals.   Later on they'd allow server moves and mergers, and so on.

I dunno, the whole idea kinda destroyed it for me (probably for a lot of others too).  And when you even start hearing people who got in at 7am tuesday complaining, then it's probably time for BW to re-evaluate their motives.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 14, 2011, 12:36:54 PM
I'm an ignorant fanboi lemming.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rasix on December 14, 2011, 12:38:29 PM
I read somewhere that this was EA's call and not BW's.  Dunno if that's true, but it'd make a lot more sense if that was the case.
This parsing of invites breaks more things than it fixes imo and reid's explanation also wasn't good enough unless you're an ignorant fanboi lemming.

Also been reading around the webz about many many markets already being cornered (even purpz already), gold farming being rampant, and a lot of day 1 folk who just cant find groups to play with and end up skipping content or are being forced to play alts (which doesnt help the starter zones).  Another interesting effect is the secondary gaming market (livestreamers for instance), wherein BW gets free advertising...  a lot of it is lost since there really is no day 1 rush and many contributors cant login yet.  And when they do, the zone is dead.  There's no '1st to 50,' 'first raid,' or any of that either now of course.  It's all been rendered dependent on pre-access.

The last effect I read on was that BW really doesnt have adequate server load/pop numbers now.  Since they're parsing invites rather than letting everyone in, they cant guage peak use in any node whatsoever until all invites are done.  When this point arrives, people/guilds will be too far along to switch servers once the untested realms pop queues.  Especially so on launch day.

Anyways, it's a borked launch model.  I much preferred Rift's launch style to any other MMO I've seen.  They had double the amount of necessary servers on tap if need be and opened extras the moment things got dicey.  You typically could find a stable server by day 2 and had many to choose from.  By actual launch day they had all the numbers they needed and things were near perfect for the late arrivals.   Later on they'd allow server moves and mergers, and so on.

I dunno, the whole idea kinda destroyed it for me (probably for a lot of others too).  And when you even start hearing people who got in at 7am tuesday complaining, then it's probably time for BW to re-evaluate their motives.

 :roll:

I like Rift, but their launch model was terrible. We had to switch servers because our first server choice was like a 4 hour queue.  So, we picked something less populated so people could actually play.  Then when people rapidly got sick of the game, it turned into a ghost town almost overnight.  The free server transfers were a necessity, but at least they handled them well.   Of course, once our server was picked as a "trial server" it went from ghost town to single player server, making the transition period incredibly awkward. 

I could really give less of a shit about the rest of the concerns.  We need a "big fucking deal" emote.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ingmar on December 14, 2011, 12:38:36 PM
I'm an ignorant fanboi lemming.

No, Ghambit is just 100% wrong.  :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: murdoc on December 14, 2011, 12:40:09 PM
I read somewhere that this was EA's call and not BW's.  Dunno if that's true, but it'd make a lot more sense if that was the case.
This parsing of invites breaks more things than it fixes imo and reid's explanation also wasn't good enough unless you're an ignorant fanboi lemming.

Also been reading around the webz about many many markets already being cornered (even purpz already), gold farming being rampant, and a lot of day 1 folk who just cant find groups to play with and end up skipping content or are being forced to play alts (which doesnt help the starter zones).  Another interesting effect is the secondary gaming market (livestreamers for instance), wherein BW gets free advertising...  a lot of it is lost since there really is no day 1 rush and many contributors cant login yet.  And when they do, the zone is dead.  There's no '1st to 50,' 'first raid,' or any of that either now of course.  It's all been rendered dependent on pre-access.

The last effect I read on was that BW really doesnt have adequate server load/pop numbers now.  Since they're parsing invites rather than letting everyone in, they cant guage peak use in any node whatsoever until all invites are done.  When this point arrives, people/guilds will be too far along to switch servers once the untested realms pop queues.  Especially so on launch day.

Anyways, it's a borked launch model.  I much preferred Rift's launch style to any other MMO I've seen.  They had double the amount of necessary servers on tap if need be and opened extras the moment things got dicey.  You typically could find a stable server by day 2 and had many to choose from.  By actual launch day they had all the numbers they needed and things were near perfect for the late arrivals.   Later on they'd allow server moves and mergers, and so on.

I dunno, the whole idea kinda destroyed it for me (probably for a lot of others too).  And when you even start hearing people who got in at 7am tuesday complaining, then it's probably time for BW to re-evaluate their motives.

I wrote a big long response to this, but really it all boils down to this:

 :uhrr:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: kildorn on December 14, 2011, 12:42:39 PM
I'm gonna lord my purple over you all. I'M TOTALLY LORDING OVER HERE.

Anywho, can you mail things cross faction? Or just use the AH? I have two sith only crafting items because  :uhrr:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: sam, an eggplant on December 14, 2011, 12:43:49 PM
stuff
Once you get in you can login right away with no queues and the servers run flawlessly, which trumps everything else.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ghambit on December 14, 2011, 12:45:41 PM
I'm an ignorant fanboi lemming.

No, Ghambit is just 100% wrong.  :grin:

So, you guys bought into the whole chest-pound "we be a big game" and "we dont want server mergers" ego trip reid posted?  cmon now.
None of his reasoning (especially the merger part) has any real-world effect, especially downstream... 'cept to piss people off.

Protip:  lease enough servers, then open them  -fin   It need not be more complex then that.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2011, 12:46:53 PM
I read somewhere that this was EA's call and not BW's.  Dunno if that's true, but it'd make a lot more sense if that was the case.
This parsing of invites breaks more things than it fixes imo and reid's explanation also wasn't good enough unless you're an ignorant fanboi lemming.

Also been reading around the webz about many many markets already being cornered (even purpz already), gold farming being rampant, and a lot of day 1 folk who just cant find groups to play with and end up skipping content or are being forced to play alts (which doesnt help the starter zones).  Another interesting effect is the secondary gaming market (livestreamers for instance), wherein BW gets free advertising...  a lot of it is lost since there really is no day 1 rush and many contributors cant login yet.  And when they do, the zone is dead.  There's no '1st to 50,' 'first raid,' or any of that either now of course.  It's all been rendered dependent on pre-access.

The last effect I read on was that BW really doesnt have adequate server load/pop numbers now.  Since they're parsing invites rather than letting everyone in, they cant guage peak use in any node whatsoever until all invites are done.  When this point arrives, people/guilds will be too far along to switch servers once the untested realms pop queues.  Especially so on launch day.

Anyways, it's a borked launch model.  I much preferred Rift's launch style to any other MMO I've seen.  They had double the amount of necessary servers on tap if need be and opened extras the moment things got dicey.  You typically could find a stable server by day 2 and had many to choose from.  By actual launch day they had all the numbers they needed and things were near perfect for the late arrivals.   Later on they'd allow server moves and mergers, and so on.

I dunno, the whole idea kinda destroyed it for me (probably for a lot of other too).  And when you even start hearing people who got in at 7am tuesday complaining, then it's probably time for BW to re-evaluate your motives.

No, I disagree: mostly because this game is a lot "wider" in its audience than the metrics you are referring to: "race to 50", farming, "purplez" and the secondary market. Yes, of course they will bring a lot of money but:

- We're talking about the launch window: the in-game economy won't be borked forever, it will rearrange itself overtime;
- Bioware (or EA) decided to take a different approach compared to Rift, and they more or less stated it yesterday throughout Stephen Reid's post, when he said that "server merges" are BAD advertisement. Yes, they are ready to open a lot more servers in the following days, I'm sure, but don't be surprised if they show some "resistance" in doing so.

- Regarding the present server metrics/load and possible future problems, I really can't say, don't know much about that side of the problem.

And especially, in the end, consider that people are bitching because they can't wait to play (indifference would be worse, wouldn't it?). Once they get their cookie, they will sit happily and silently in a corner and if nothing major happens to the game (serious bugs/flaws/exploits or server side problems), this early access policy will soon be forgotten.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ingmar on December 14, 2011, 12:48:11 PM
The economy being a little goofy for a week is utterly, utterly meaningless. Not opening too many servers and having to merge later is worth more or less any amount of inconvenience IMO.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Furiously on December 14, 2011, 12:48:32 PM
How are people cornering the purple market?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 14, 2011, 12:48:52 PM
Once you get in you can login right away with no queues and the servers run flawlessly, which trumps everything else.
(http://www.holybibble.net/files/5713/0484/3503/Luke-whining.jpg)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ingmar on December 14, 2011, 12:50:26 PM
They're going to get all the purples and then gouge people that come along later... somehow! Despite the fact that the new people won't have any money to spend anyway and can just as easily get 'purpz' themselves.

Don't try to peek behind the Ghambit curtain, it is eyes and tentacles all the way down.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 14, 2011, 12:51:26 PM
How are people cornering the purple market?
The PURPZ, man. The PURPZ. On the WEBZ.

Motherfucker better be trollin'.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2011, 12:52:36 PM
Geeze, folks, so much for my wordy reply. You could have warned me to just put in a  :uhrr:


 :heartbreak:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rasix on December 14, 2011, 12:53:44 PM
Geeze, folks, so much for my wordy reply. You could have warned me to just put in a  :uhrr:


 :heartbreak:

Don't waste too many words on the cabana boy. 


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sobelius on December 14, 2011, 12:54:04 PM
Don't try to peek behind the Ghambit curtain, it is eyes and tentacles all the way down.

*All* the way down? Can we see pics please?  :drill:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 14, 2011, 12:55:27 PM
And lest I just be snarky without contributing to the 'discussion':
a lot of day 1 folk who just cant find groups to play with and end up skipping content or are being forced to play alts (which doesnt help the starter zones).  
Other than that, I ran PUGs for the Dromund Kaas heroic stuff without any problems. We grouped for the mandalorian area and then hit the next one by the statue to get that done. For the Hutta stuff, I caught Cho's sniper just as I was going back at level 11 to clean up the heroic stuff before moving off-world and we duo'd it easy-peasy. A roundabout way of saying it shouldn't be too much of an issue tackling the low hanging group content.
Because, you know, it's not an issue. From the guy who NEVER GROUPS IN MMO.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Nevermore on December 14, 2011, 01:14:21 PM
The last effect I read on was that BW really doesnt have adequate server load/pop numbers now.  Since they're parsing invites rather than letting everyone in, they cant guage peak use in any node whatsoever until all invites are done.  When this point arrives, people/guilds will be too far along to switch servers once the untested realms pop queues.  Especially so on launch day.

I think this was my favorite bit of cognitive dissonance.  It only takes 3 days to be so firmly entrenched on a server that people couldn't possibly move to another server because it would take so long for them to re-entrench themselves!  :uhrr:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Nevermore on December 14, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
They're going to get all the purples and then gouge people that come along later... somehow! Despite the fact that the new people won't have any money to spend anyway and can just as easily get 'purpz' themselves.

I hear that once all the purples are taken, there will be no more available ever!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Pezzle on December 14, 2011, 01:18:29 PM
I read somewhere that this was EA's call and not BW's.  Dunno if that's true, but it'd make a lot more sense if that was the case.
This parsing of invites breaks more things than it fixes imo and reid's explanation also wasn't good enough unless you're an ignorant fanboi lemming.

Also been reading around the webz about many many markets already being cornered (even purpz already), gold farming being rampant, and a lot of day 1 folk who just cant find groups to play with and end up skipping content or are being forced to play alts (which doesnt help the starter zones).  Another interesting effect is the secondary gaming market (livestreamers for instance), wherein BW gets free advertising...  a lot of it is lost since there really is no day 1 rush and many contributors cant login yet.  And when they do, the zone is dead.  There's no '1st to 50,' 'first raid,' or any of that either now of course.  It's all been rendered dependent on pre-access.

The last effect I read on was that BW really doesnt have adequate server load/pop numbers now.  Since they're parsing invites rather than letting everyone in, they cant guage peak use in any node whatsoever until all invites are done.  When this point arrives, people/guilds will be too far along to switch servers once the untested realms pop queues.  Especially so on launch day.

Anyways, it's a borked launch model.  I much preferred Rift's launch style to any other MMO I've seen.  They had double the amount of necessary servers on tap if need be and opened extras the moment things got dicey.  You typically could find a stable server by day 2 and had many to choose from.  By actual launch day they had all the numbers they needed and things were near perfect for the late arrivals.   Later on they'd allow server moves and mergers, and so on.

I dunno, the whole idea kinda destroyed it for me (probably for a lot of others too).  And when you even start hearing people who got in at 7am tuesday complaining, then it's probably time for BW to re-evaluate their motives.

That is some delicious kool-aid  :uhrr:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mattemeo on December 14, 2011, 01:20:26 PM
How it will feel to be a late starter in Ghambit's world (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbYx6hevoQ)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: DraconianOne on December 14, 2011, 01:30:17 PM
How it will feel to be a late starter in Ghambit's world (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbYx6hevoQ)

 :drill:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: ajax34i on December 14, 2011, 01:35:06 PM
Forums should be fun in January too, when all the pre-order folk discover they've been billed for the next month of gameplay on Jan 13 instead of Jan 20.   ;-)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Draegan on December 14, 2011, 01:39:14 PM
And lest I just be snarky without contributing to the 'discussion':
a lot of day 1 folk who just cant find groups to play with and end up skipping content or are being forced to play alts (which doesnt help the starter zones).  
Other than that, I ran PUGs for the Dromund Kaas heroic stuff without any problems. We grouped for the mandalorian area and then hit the next one by the statue to get that done. For the Hutta stuff, I caught Cho's sniper just as I was going back at level 11 to clean up the heroic stuff before moving off-world and we duo'd it easy-peasy. A roundabout way of saying it shouldn't be too much of an issue tackling the low hanging group content.
Because, you know, it's not an issue. From the guy who NEVER GROUPS IN MMO.

I saw at least 3-4 groups yesterday doing all the heroic quests in Hutta and DK during peak hours EST.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 14, 2011, 01:41:30 PM
And lest I just be snarky without contributing to the 'discussion':
a lot of day 1 folk who just cant find groups to play with and end up skipping content or are being forced to play alts (which doesnt help the starter zones).  
Other than that, I ran PUGs for the Dromund Kaas heroic stuff without any problems. We grouped for the mandalorian area and then hit the next one by the statue to get that done. For the Hutta stuff, I caught Cho's sniper just as I was going back at level 11 to clean up the heroic stuff before moving off-world and we duo'd it easy-peasy. A roundabout way of saying it shouldn't be too much of an issue tackling the low hanging group content.
Because, you know, it's not an issue. From the guy who NEVER GROUPS IN MMO.

This.

I never fucking group and I found myself doing all the Heroics on Ord Mantell today AND the fucking Esselles. I'm floored by this game's ability to make me put up with PUGs.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Furiously on December 14, 2011, 01:45:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvep1WaUmOM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvep1WaUmOM)  A good way to pass the time.  His my little pony is pretty entertaining too.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ghambit on December 14, 2011, 01:46:50 PM
How it will feel to be a late starter in Ghambit's world (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbYx6hevoQ)

 :drill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgkVIV_7DFU


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2011, 02:13:53 PM
They let in anybirdie nowadays.

Ahem: looooool

Also I am in.  :heart:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ingmar on December 14, 2011, 02:15:16 PM
Man I totally missed that.

ho ho ho


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rasix on December 14, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
It was nice knowing you.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2011, 02:19:07 PM
I run in windowed mode, I'll still post when I'm on a taxi to somewhere.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 14, 2011, 02:35:23 PM
I run in windowed mode, I'll still post when I'm on a taxi to somewhere.  :why_so_serious:
...to victory?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2011, 02:41:42 PM
Do taxis ever go anywhere else?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Viin on December 14, 2011, 02:44:13 PM
How many of you read those lengthy legal agreements? How many were there, 29?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2011, 02:44:59 PM
Do taxis ever go anywhere else?

Well, sometimes they bring me to nightclubs and whatnot...But yes, I think those can be listed under "victory", in a way  :drill:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: CmdrSlack on December 14, 2011, 05:30:07 PM
How many of you read those lengthy legal agreements? How many were there, 29?

I do. Parsing EULAs and whatnot is a sick and disturbing hobby of mine. Sadly, most haven't changed in ages. It used to be that you could redact the game-specific words and map the clauses word-for-word. I copy/pasted the SWTOR ones for future reading as I am too concerned with staring at the patcher until it finishes updating.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Viin on December 14, 2011, 07:00:32 PM
I created an F13 channel for those of you who aren't in the BC guild but are on Shien.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 15, 2011, 04:11:48 AM
Sweet. Perhaps I can taunt you with my republicans, now that I've gotten all my imperials off the starter worlds


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 15, 2011, 04:22:44 AM
Tracking my CE order on Amazon.it : it should arrive tomorrow morning  :drill:

And it looks like today's last wave should be the good one for me.

Yes, "everything is proceeding as I have foreseen" and stuff.

(http://www.skiforum.it/skiforum/upload/foto/64473-b16palpatine.gif)


Oh wait, I meant:

(http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww260/Think_Mcfly_Think/January%202011/Palpatine-hd.gif?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1323061312821)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Tyrnan on December 15, 2011, 05:48:07 AM
Uh-oh, they're talking about a class action. This shit just got serious  :why_so_serious:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=26352 (http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=26352)

Quote
to all those people who want to throw the fact it says
up to
5 days early access . and use this as a you get what they promised
UP TO
5 days meaning 1 day 2 days 3 days 4 days and even 5 days of access

i think those of us with only UP TO 5 days should look into a class action lawsuit, if others are given 6 and 7 days access, as false advertising because up to 5 days is 1 2 3 4 and 5 not 6 or 7.
to avoid a lawsuit bioware should take everyone who would get 6 or 7 days access thus creating a false advertising on bowares part and deny them 2 of the next 5 days access thus giving all pre orders the advertised UP to 5 days access

so if they got in Tuesday they need to be denied 2 days before the 19th and those who got in Wednesday should be denied 1 day before the 19th

we bought early access as part of a contract for a product. nowhere did it ever say 6 or 7 days access and if it was a gift then bioware should legally be responsible for business perk gift taxes of 2 days for every person they gave a gift to. bioware you are a business and are bound by law to certain business rules


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 15, 2011, 05:54:18 AM
Uh-oh, they're talking about a class action. This shit just got serious  :why_so_serious:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=26352 (http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=26352)

Quote
to all those people who want to throw the fact it says
up to
5 days early access . and use this as a you get what they promised
UP TO
5 days meaning 1 day 2 days 3 days 4 days and even 5 days of access

i think those of us with only UP TO 5 days should look into a class action lawsuit, if others are given 6 and 7 days access, as false advertising because up to 5 days is 1 2 3 4 and 5 not 6 or 7.
to avoid a lawsuit bioware should take everyone who would get 6 or 7 days access thus creating a false advertising on bowares part and deny them 2 of the next 5 days access thus giving all pre orders the advertised UP to 5 days access

so if they got in Tuesday they need to be denied 2 days before the 19th and those who got in Wednesday should be denied 1 day before the 19th

we bought early access as part of a contract for a product. nowhere did it ever say 6 or 7 days access and if it was a gift then bioware should legally be responsible for business perk gift taxes of 2 days for every person they gave a gift to. bioware you are a business and are bound by law to certain business rules

:facepalm:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 15, 2011, 05:56:06 AM
Best launch ever. BioWare should get a master troll award :grin:

on that note, first wave for today just went out. edit: that one covered range to October 29th or so, it seems.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Bunk on December 15, 2011, 06:03:47 AM
And now my nine hour wait for this work day to end begins...

Mid Oct and just got the invite.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lantyssa on December 15, 2011, 06:13:54 AM
I'll be in by now then.  Betting I don't get home until it's too late to do much.  I just want to reserve my names. :cry:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 15, 2011, 06:24:08 AM
Today's post by Stephen Reid:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=26745

Quote
Morning everyone!

We're starting to send out more invites for today.

Here's the good news: overnight we decided to send out more invites than we had originally planned. However, we'll be spacing those invites out, which means we'll have more 'waves' than the previous four-per-day. We are inviting more people today than we did during yesterday.

I'll update this thread as we send invites. As a reminder, we're also updating our official Twitter accounts (@SWTOR, @SWTOR_FR and @SWTOR_DE) with the invites as they sent; that'll be more up-to-the-minute than this post.

For anyone who's not yet been invited, remember to have the email address no-reply@bioware.swtor.com in your address book so it doesn't hit spam filters.

Assuming you have the SWTOR client installed, you can also periodically launch it. If you're ready to go your 'play' button will be click-able.

EDIT: Second wave sent, 10am EST, 4pm CET . Maybe end of october-very beginning of november?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 15, 2011, 07:24:13 AM
At this rate, I actually have a shot today. Too bad I have no PC built yet for it.  :ye_gods:

I may have to be *ahem... sick tomorrow from work just to get all the install shit done once my graphix card comes in.

And I expect all you early adopters to run me through shit and suffer through my painfully slow decision making processes in the conversation wheels.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rendakor on December 15, 2011, 07:33:48 AM
I've got work at 2pm EST today, so I figure I'll get my invite at 1pm right when I need to get ready to leave.  :tantrum: At least I've got tomorrow off.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 15, 2011, 07:40:39 AM
EDIT: Second wave sent, 10am EST, 4pm CET . Maybe end of october-very beginning of november?

November 10th it seems. 3rd wave in ten minutes or so.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Wolf on December 15, 2011, 07:45:47 AM
So are we absolutely sure the non-pre-order copies will not get early access? I'll be getting my copy tomorrow and I'll stick it in right away. I have characters to run through LFR, I certainly hope I don't magically get TOR access because I don't trust myself to play the correct game  :uhrr:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 15, 2011, 07:49:10 AM
The early access hinges on having the pre-order code entered on your account page at swtor website, i believe. So essentially no, won't be able to play before 20th without it.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 15, 2011, 07:53:13 AM
Third wave sent, still no invite here (24/11). I'M STARTING TO SENSE A DISTURBANCE IN THE FORCE  :| (font increase pending)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 15, 2011, 07:55:04 AM
I'm guessing the 3rd wave covers November 10-20th because 21st ain't in yet :oh_i_see:

edit: they said it's going to be 7 waves today and letting in more people than yesterday, so that's why the smaller chunks, probably.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Pezzle on December 15, 2011, 07:56:15 AM
What the hell is a "business perk gift tax" and how could such a thing be used to force a company to let you play games for free before they are officially released?  

 :uhrr:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 15, 2011, 07:56:31 AM
And I expect all you early adopters to run me through shit and suffer through my painfully slow decision making processes in the conversation wheels.  :why_so_serious:
We've got a pretty good level spread in BC right now. I was going to roll an alt (well, I rolled them for names, but haven't played them) but at this point I'd have a hard time switching stories, I think. Maybe I could play the Hutta-based Agent, but I'm surprised at my resistance to cheating on my Powertech.

As far as dialog-skipping, I haven't found it to be an issue yet - though by our third run through Black Talon we did skip a couple. The minor (and major!) variations depending on who wins the roll helps keep it interesting imo.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: trias_e on December 15, 2011, 07:57:02 AM
11/28, today, one time.  ONE TIME.

Not gonna lie, this early access scheme has pissed me off.  I understand it's irrational and emotional of me, but I think it's kind of human nature to get annoyed at the arbitrary lack of information they've given us.  It's like a jackass bouncer at the front door that could tell you when you'll probably get in, but won't, so you have no idea and feel utterly helpless.  And want to kick him in the balls.

I also only play MMORPGs at release:  The experience of discovery/clusterfuck is actually, believe it or not, why I play MMORPGs.  I don't think they are good games, but at release they are more like crazy experiments than games*.  I'm annoyed that this is being taken away, to some extent.  

*It should be noted that I'm not interested in technical difficulties as being part of this experiment.  It's more the game world/social aspect that interests me.  Once everyone is leveled up, and everything is mapped out, everything gets real boring.

Aaaaaand this is post #1000.  After 7 years on this forum.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 15, 2011, 07:58:10 AM
I have a feeling by tomorrow, noonish, everyone will be in.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: DraconianOne on December 15, 2011, 07:58:22 AM
So are we absolutely sure the non-pre-order copies will not get early access? I'll be getting my copy tomorrow and I'll stick it in right away. I have characters to run through LFR, I certainly hope I don't magically get TOR access because I don't trust myself to play the correct game  :uhrr:

The UK Bioware rep recommended making sure that you get a pre-order code when you get a copy even if you buy it over the next couple of days so that you get some early access.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Wolf on December 15, 2011, 08:10:09 AM
Great, no early access! I'll herd people in LFR and lose rolls to bads :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 15, 2011, 08:19:05 AM
Uh-oh, they're talking about a class action. This shit just got serious  :why_so_serious:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=26352 (http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=26352)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3667682/swtorpalm.jpg)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 15, 2011, 08:32:35 AM
And I expect all you early adopters to run me through shit and suffer through my painfully slow decision making processes in the conversation wheels.  :why_so_serious:
We've got a pretty good level spread in BC right now. I was going to roll an alt (well, I rolled them for names, but haven't played them) but at this point I'd have a hard time switching stories, I think. Maybe I could play the Hutta-based Agent, but I'm surprised at my resistance to cheating on my Powertech.

As far as dialog-skipping, I haven't found it to be an issue yet - though by our third run through Black Talon we did skip a couple. The minor (and major!) variations depending on who wins the roll helps keep it interesting imo.

My only gripe to this gated release/access thing. This is why most of my old guilds in games fail... because a set of people that can level more than others, break and go off with other like-levels. So basically BW is just going ahead and doing it for us  :uhrr:. And I say this without a PC to play SWTOR on so I am not raging on it. Just disappointed with the situation.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 15, 2011, 08:52:14 AM
Next wave just went out.

(and now i have to make the most important decisions regarding the bum sizes of the chars)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 15, 2011, 08:56:00 AM
Ok, I entered my code in late November ( Due to best buy ), and I'm in. This is all almost over. Can't look up the exact date due to high traffic.


EDIT: 11.11.2011


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 15, 2011, 08:56:37 AM
I'm innnnn!!!!!!!!!  :drill: :drill: :drill: :drill:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rendakor on December 15, 2011, 08:59:37 AM
11/28 here, and still not in.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 15, 2011, 09:01:54 AM
11/28 here, and still not in.

You and me man...

Wonder what percentage of the game's population is going to be left to start the game on the 20th. I can't see some big Dec 20th crush for whatever reason.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 15, 2011, 09:32:22 AM
No love for the Darth Malgus facepalm? That took me ten whole minutes! Booo on yoooous!

 :crying_panda:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: jakonovski on December 15, 2011, 09:34:13 AM
12/12, I'm never gonna get in! But seriously, I think they'll get everyone in by Friday's end, so the forums don't spontaneously combust.




Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 15, 2011, 09:36:33 AM
I think it will be over by tomorrow. If not today.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 15, 2011, 09:37:14 AM
Server pop. in Europe is really starting to increase (already lots of "full" servers), and it's 6.45pm CET . I think they'll open more servers within a few hours (german ones are packed)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Maledict on December 15, 2011, 10:49:05 AM
27/11 here and I just got in so those on the28th should be in soon!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: trias_e on December 15, 2011, 11:11:58 AM
Yep, I'm in. 11/28.  Cheers.

And I've already trashed three things by dragging them to the character portrait.  So used to WoW and the popup being 'Are you sure you want to equip this bind on equip item'.  Instead this time it's 'Are you sure you want to trash this item.'

Old habits die hard.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: March on December 15, 2011, 11:15:25 AM
I didn't think that I would care about missing a few days of headstart since I managed to skip the entire beta.

But now that the new shiny is here, I care, I care. 

/curses December pre-order.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Draegan on December 15, 2011, 11:15:38 AM
Looks like my Amazon order is now being shipped!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 15, 2011, 11:16:20 AM
Yep, I'm in. 11/28.  Cheers.


 :oh_i_see:

edit: as of 4 minutes ago... now, I am good to go. Too bad my vid card is still in transit. Meh... might just have to melt the 8800GT to play some tonight.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sobelius on December 15, 2011, 11:17:31 AM
Server Status on The Fatman server is currently:  Very Heavy.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Pezzle on December 15, 2011, 11:20:38 AM
Server Status on The Fatman server is currently:  Very Heavy.

Baron Harkonnen has a server?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Draegan on December 15, 2011, 12:09:50 PM
There is now a 2 day Grace Period announced from the Bioware Founders.

Quote
Hello everyone,

While we’ve worked closely with our retailers in the launch territories to ensure copies of Star Wars: The Old Republic are available from our launch date of December 20th, we understand that for those of you who’ve pre-ordered, there may be a concern about getting your copy on time. We’ve heard you want a ‘grace period’ where you can continue to play without having to enter a final product registration code (AKA ‘game code’).

We’ve been listening, and after doing another deep review of our platform infrastructure, we’re taking action. Today, we’re announcing a two day grace period for Star Wars: The Old Republic customers.

This means that everyone who pre-ordered and is in the Early Game Access program has forty-eight hours from launch in which to enter their product registration code, which will be found inside the physical Standard and Collector’s Editions of the game; for digital editions of the game from Origin.com, the registration code will have been emailed to you after December 16th and will arrive before December 19th at 11:59PM EST. After December 22nd 12:01AM EST, you will be required to have a valid payment method and a product registration code registered to your account to continue to play. We strongly recommend that you register your product code as soon as you are able to do so (rather than waiting until the last minute) to ensure a seamless entry into the game, a smooth experience on the account website and to collect any special gifts and items you may be entitled to based on the version of the game you purchased.

We understand that for some, your copy of the game may still arrive on or after December 22nd. Unfortunately, we cannot extend the grace period any further. We suggest you contact your retailer to discuss shipping options, if this is a concern.

You may be wondering if your 30 days of game time (included with your purchase of the game) will be affected by the grace period. The answer is no. If you redeem your product registration code during the grace period, and add a valid payment method to your account, you will begin your billing cycle from then, and you will be entitled to 30 days of game time. If you redeem your product registration code before December 20th, your billing cycle will begin on December 20th at 12:01AM EST (the official launch date and time of the game).

We know this has been an issue for some of you, and we apologize for the concerns. We’re looking forward to welcoming all of you to the official launch of Star Wars: The Old Republic!
Thanks,
Ray and Greg


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 15, 2011, 12:12:45 PM
People will still bitch.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: VainEldritch on December 15, 2011, 12:28:15 PM
People will still bitch.

Inevitable considering the large number of monosynaptic cunts on the official forums.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sand on December 15, 2011, 12:29:42 PM
Im still not in.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sobelius on December 15, 2011, 12:42:10 PM
People will still bitch.

Inevitable considering the large number of monosynaptic cunts on the official forums.

It's the right way to do a game which has a service component. Most MMO launches have done this because it's just the right thing to do. I'm glad BW/EA figured out how to make it happen.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Paelos on December 15, 2011, 12:48:39 PM
I get to play some tonight. Then none for the weekend. Lame. Stupid early family holidays.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: sam, an eggplant on December 15, 2011, 12:49:12 PM
Amazon just shipped my copy of the game via "release-date delivery". It'll arrive tomorrow. So that's pretty cool, no grace period necessary for me.

On a related note, they buckled and will have a 48 hour grace period. (http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=28618) Interestingly, from the way I read it, we're incentivized not to enter our code until Dec 22nd, as billing starts from there.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Draegan on December 15, 2011, 12:53:44 PM
You are correct.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ingmar on December 15, 2011, 12:55:15 PM
Incentivized by what, about a dollar? I twirl my index finger in mock excitement.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: sam, an eggplant on December 15, 2011, 12:57:15 PM
SWTOR had a million preorders. That's a million dollars lost, which explains why they didn't want to do a grace period.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: cironian on December 15, 2011, 01:06:04 PM
SWTOR had a million preorders. That's a million dollars lost, which explains why they didn't want to do a grace period.

Pocket change compared to the deluge of money that's coming in now, but I agree that that's probably why it took so long. Dev grunt #34 is unlikely to be allowed to just make a million dollar decision without some EA bigwig signing off on it.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ingmar on December 15, 2011, 01:07:11 PM
It's only a million dollars if every preorder subscribes, but yeah.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sand on December 15, 2011, 01:23:37 PM
Im in! Just got my email!!!!!

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Now to go home and start downloading 20gigs while I play DDO.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 15, 2011, 01:25:41 PM
Looks like I am off tomorrow... Day filled with PC building and updates all day...  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Fraeg on December 15, 2011, 01:57:31 PM
I am in 144 in que  :awesome_for_real:

got my email at work and uhmmm Had to go *run an errand, back in an hour or so*   :rimshot:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Daeven on December 15, 2011, 02:39:59 PM
Got my email this morning. Then I had to go to work.

 :heartbreak:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: jakonovski on December 15, 2011, 02:43:30 PM
Asfdasfd missed the thursday cutoff by a couple of days. Not that I would've had any time left to play it anyway.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Thrawn on December 15, 2011, 02:47:24 PM
Got me email this morning while I was at work, then had to go to the second job, now I'm in class for two hours.   :uhrr:

Read through some of the Facebook/forum posts with people raging about early access being unfair, and how it's ripping people off and how it's ruining world firsts by giving people a head start and etc, etc, etc.  I play a lot of onlilne crap and I don't think I've never wished to reach through the internet and punch someome as bad as all these insane people RAGING about the early access.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Nevermore on December 15, 2011, 02:50:24 PM
I love how people rage about 'world firsts' when there's nothing in-game that tracks world firsts.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Thrawn on December 15, 2011, 03:02:47 PM
I love how people rage about 'world firsts' when there's nothing in-game that tracks world firsts.

I don't think the people who obsess over them realize at all what a small percent of the game even cares.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ginaz on December 15, 2011, 04:35:09 PM
I'm in...but apparently all teh purplze are gone. :sad_panda:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: sam, an eggplant on December 15, 2011, 05:29:49 PM
You have been placed in a queue.

Position in queue: 528

Estimated Wait: < 35m 00s


This makes me a sad, sad panda.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rendakor on December 15, 2011, 08:49:43 PM
Got my email this morning. Then I had to go to work.

 :heartbreak:
I was in the same boat as you. Got up at 9am and F5'd my email and the twitter every hour to see if I got in. Finally got my invite at 1pm; had to leave for work at 1:15.  :mob: At least I got to reserve character names for myself and a few friends; I've got all night to play now, and tomorrow off too!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: tmp on December 15, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
I'm in...but apparently all teh purplze are gone. :sad_panda:
There's still some bluez left by the looks of it, so it's not all bad.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Dark_MadMax on December 15, 2011, 09:25:18 PM
Sorry guys for being moron if thats been asked - I did pre-order trough origin. do I have to activate something besides pre order code? Cause I am still not in .....


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rendakor on December 15, 2011, 09:43:02 PM
No, your pre-order code is what gets you in. When did you pre-order/redeem your code?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: luckton on December 16, 2011, 01:41:31 AM
The fuck is with this Friday AM maintenance BS?!  I wanna play  :tantrum:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Wolf on December 16, 2011, 01:43:28 AM
I've had a pre-order for over 10 hours and I'm still not in. WHAT THE FUCK BIOWARE WHAT THE FUCK  :mob:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lucas on December 16, 2011, 02:03:40 AM
Courier just delivered my Collector's Edition. Package and contents are really fabulous!  :Love_Letters: :Love_Letters:

Quality of the materials is top notch, as far as I can judge, especially the journal of Master Gnost-Dural. Darth Malgus statue is great and arrived without any damage.

I haven't purchased a lot of CEs lately, but this is at least on par with the old Wing Commander 3 UK limited edition (the "reel" one) and the other Origin boxes of old.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: DraconianOne on December 16, 2011, 02:09:52 AM
I pre-ordered a CE although whether I go through with buying it is a different matter. It's so much money that could be better spent on other things. :ye_gods: Thinking of selling my motorbike to balance the fiscal karma.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Reg on December 16, 2011, 02:11:21 AM
Wouldn't an unopened CE with all of its codes intact be the kind of thing you could sell on EBay at a big profit?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Wolf on December 16, 2011, 02:14:40 AM
a friend of mine found a vanilla wow collectors on ebay and bought it for 500 quid or something. She likes her pets...

Don't know what's exclusive about this one, but if there's something unique and the game is successful it'll be worth quite a bit down the line. Having said that, I did have some tabula rasa collector's editions lying around the office a couple years back. We were selling them at 5 euro   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 16, 2011, 03:34:29 AM
They only appear to be going for $200-$250 right now.  The WOW ones didn't go up in price until you couldn't buy them anymore, though. 


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Wolf on December 16, 2011, 04:48:33 AM
soooo... my copies are spending the weekend in Belgium. I hear it's nice there this time of year. Also I get to reuse that rage comic (http://i.imgur.com/K2BLS.jpg) I made. Again.  :argh:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: amiable on December 16, 2011, 05:06:51 AM
My wife insisted on picking the server for our Friends and Family guild and I cautioned her not to pick a "cool sounding name" server because of the high dickbag/normal player ratio.  (I suggested an RP server but that was poo-pooed as being too nerdy).

She ended up picking the goon server.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 16, 2011, 06:17:38 AM
Your attention please:

The purpz. I has them.

That is all.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Draegan on December 16, 2011, 06:43:52 AM
I made a level 16 medpac last night thats purple and heals me and my companion for 850 damage.  90 second cooldown, never runs out!

You can have it.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Der Helm on December 16, 2011, 06:52:04 AM
You can have it.

That one should be BoP  :grin:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: UD_Delt on December 16, 2011, 06:53:48 AM
Still no email for my 12/10 preorder. Should be some time this morning....

Then again I still have 3.5GB of download remaining which is just crawling ever so slowly.

Yes, I decided to wait until the last minute to download the client. What?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Der Helm on December 16, 2011, 09:05:35 AM
Looks like I am in, just as I am about to leave the house to spend the evening with my family and girlfriend, probably not gonna be able to get into the game before tomorow.

See ya in game.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Quinton on December 16, 2011, 10:25:51 AM
Email has arrived.  There goes the weekend.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Teleku on December 16, 2011, 10:42:01 AM
Yeah, just got my email today.  And as I mentioned, I bought the game and registered less than a week ago, so I guess everybody should be in at this point.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 16, 2011, 10:48:42 AM
I have a feeling by tomorrow, noonish, everyone will be in.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Wolf on December 16, 2011, 01:37:49 PM
yap, just got email, and registered the code yesterday. Much  :heart: DraconianOne. I, however, reserve the right to hate you if there are issues with upgrading my account  :oh_i_see:

It's worth noting that there is currently one english pve server without a queue eu side. There are a couple of pvp ones also, but they are more the exception than the rule. The server I have my people on (Hydian Way) has a 45 minute queue. Doesn't mater, I got red bull. Go to bed scrubs.

Good news is that WoW runs fine with TOR at the queue. LFR, here I come :)

edit: I'm on LFR queue and TOR queue AND DRUNK.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Velorath on December 16, 2011, 09:45:25 PM
Got my email with the key for the digital deluxe version.  Entered it in and set up a sub, so I should have all my bonus stuff now.  Also downloaded the security key app on my iPhone and have that all up and running, so hopefully it will all function correctly when I get home from work.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Der Helm on December 17, 2011, 03:22:51 AM
Patching... I am going in...  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Wolf on December 18, 2011, 02:03:29 AM
I wanted glowy eyes, I got veiny/dirty stuff around my mouth. So naturally I turned that off. Now it turns itself on every time I zone somewhere, it's very annoying.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Der Helm on December 18, 2011, 03:36:16 AM
I wanted glowy eyes, I got veiny/dirty stuff around my mouth. So naturally I turned that off. Now it turns itself on every time I zone somewhere, it's very annoying.
I'd check if your data got corrupted somehow.


fakeedit:  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 19, 2011, 01:47:07 AM
So how does the security code work anyway?  First prompt I get on my iPhone after opening it up is to enter my 7 digit serial number.  No idea what that is.   :uhrr:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 19, 2011, 03:08:27 AM
The serial number on physical authenticators is on the back.  Did you not get an e-mail when you DL'd the app?   

The S/N is required for the program to generate and sync the key w/ the server.  You'll have to enter it on your account page as well.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 19, 2011, 03:32:06 AM
I apparently never got any mail.  Might have to redownload the app and see what happens.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 19, 2011, 04:13:55 AM
Okay, found out the deal...you have to go into your profile (under Security Key) and get the serial number there.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: CmdrSlack on December 19, 2011, 06:16:16 AM
So I set up a security key, registered my serial number, etc.

I then noticed that I could drop an extra 20 bucks and get all of the CE stuff. I just don't think that stuff is worth 20 bucks.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Rendakor on December 19, 2011, 07:01:29 AM
There's a vendor in game that sells an item for 1 million credits that (I believe) gives you access to the CE vendor.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Miasma on December 19, 2011, 09:54:12 AM
The forum people seem surprised that the CE stuff doesn't do very much, don't know what they were expecting, especially since the contents were clearly stated.  All it's really good for is bragging rights five years from now when you can show that you spent way too much money for the CE back at launch.  And even then since they make and sell so many CEs nowadays it isn't going to be a huge deal.  I think every third lightsaber I see right now is the CE yellow/black crystal - and it's ugly.  I bought the CE and the box is so big I had to put it down in my storage locker.

In WoW I do kinda like bringing out my panda cub/diablo/zergling when people are whipping out their pets though.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: ajax34i on December 19, 2011, 09:56:31 AM
It costs 2x as much as the regular box, so maybe that's why they expect more.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: calapine on December 19, 2011, 10:11:11 AM
The forum people seem surprised that the CE stuff doesn't do very much, don't know what they were expecting, especially since the contents were clearly stated.  All it's really good for is bragging rights five years from now when you can show that you spent way too much money for the CE back at launch.  And even then since they make and sell so many CEs nowadays it isn't going to be a huge deal.  I think every third lightsaber I see right now is the CE yellow/black crystal - and it's ugly.  I bought the CE and the box is so big I had to put it down in my storage locker.

In WoW I do kinda like bringing out my panda cub/diablo/zergling when people are whipping out their pets though.

I don't have the CE but yellow/black lightsaber crystal sounds like the color crystal that came with every pre-order. Be it standard or digital-deluxe edition. And yes, it's fugly!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 19, 2011, 10:15:45 AM
The forum people seem surprised that the CE stuff doesn't do very much, don't know what they were expecting, especially since the contents were clearly stated.  All it's really good for is bragging rights five years from now when you can show that you spent way too much money for the CE back at launch.  And even then since they make and sell so many CEs nowadays it isn't going to be a huge deal.  I think every third lightsaber I see right now is the CE yellow/black crystal - and it's ugly.  I bought the CE and the box is so big I had to put it down in my storage locker.

In WoW I do kinda like bringing out my panda cub/diablo/zergling when people are whipping out their pets though.

I don't have the CE but yellow/black lightsaber crystal sounds like the color crystal that came with every pre-order. Be it standard or digital-deluxe edition. And yes, it's fugly!

I threw the crystal in my bank. I am straight yellow on my Juggy for the lolcrits.
 :oh_i_see:

edit: I do however, think they look sweet on blasters though.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Miasma on December 19, 2011, 10:32:41 AM
Oh right the crystal is from the pre order.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Paelos on December 19, 2011, 10:34:15 AM
Why they didn't make the crystal from preorder orange I'll never know.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 19, 2011, 10:35:10 AM
Why they didn't make the crystal from preorder orange I'll never know.

Because people actually like that color. Give away the shit, make the bastards buy the good stuff.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Ingmar on December 19, 2011, 10:57:00 AM
There's a vendor in game that sells an item for 1 million credits that (I believe) gives you access to the CE vendor.

I haven't been up there to confirm yet but I don't think this is true - it gets you into the VIP lounge where you can use the VIP vendor, but there's a second, separate vendor up there for the CE people that only they can still use. Or so I was told.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: eldaec on December 19, 2011, 01:08:27 PM
It costs 2x as much as the regular box, so maybe that's why they expect more.

The point is that it says, right on the box, that it contains nothing worthwhile.



Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sky on December 19, 2011, 01:09:59 PM
the CE and the box is so big I had to put it down in my storage locker.
THAT'S THE WOW FACTOR, BABY!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: DraconianOne on December 20, 2011, 02:40:38 AM
I had the CE on a counter in front of me this morning with the option to buy.




I didn't.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 20, 2011, 09:48:49 AM
I took a picture of my SWG special edition on top of my CE. Box contents have changed in 10 years.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: sam, an eggplant on December 20, 2011, 10:04:38 AM
THAT'S THE WOW FACTOR, BABY!
(http://i.imgur.com/B7WSA.jpg)

I love that show.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sobelius on December 20, 2011, 01:51:47 PM
I took a picture of my SWG special edition on top of my CE. Box contents have changed in 10 years.

And you didn't share out a link? tut tut


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Miasma on December 20, 2011, 09:44:27 PM
I had intended to play either an agent or smuggler but also wanted to take a character through each starting planet, accidently wound up playing sith warrior and liking it.  Now I unintentionally got light side attuned.  Got an angry looking icon over my portrait telling me my light sabre no longer works, turns out I can't use it with light1.  Managed to buy a new one that I can use, an orange, that was fairly cheap.  The only problem is the blue crystal.

I'm afraid the other sith will make fun of me running around with a blue light sabre... :awesome_for_real:.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Surlyboi on December 20, 2011, 09:56:22 PM
I took a picture of my SWG special edition on top of my CE. Box contents have changed in 10 years.

And you didn't share out a link? tut tut

Too lazy, I'll do it tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 20, 2011, 10:53:54 PM
I'm afraid the other sith will make fun of me running around with a blue light sabre... :awesome_for_real:.

And well they should, weaksauce.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Velorath on December 20, 2011, 10:59:13 PM
I'm afraid the other sith will make fun of me running around with a blue light sabre... :awesome_for_real:.

And well they should, weaksauce.

I find the Orange lightsaber to be properly ambiguous.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 21, 2011, 12:37:59 AM

I'm afraid the other sith will make fun of me running around with a blue light sabre... :awesome_for_real:.

My manquisitor won't make fun of you! He's a terrible sith too.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: apocrypha on December 21, 2011, 04:28:14 AM
I weakened, I'm in!  :awesome_for_real:

Character auto-joined BC when I logged on, which was nice. Can't work out how to set the member note as it says in the guild MOTD, only option I get on right-click is to set pvp flag.

Anyway, look forward to meeting some of you in-game.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 21, 2011, 04:29:24 AM
You've got to be promoted to the member rank to change your note.   I think other members can change your note as well but I haven't tried it.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 21, 2011, 04:29:52 AM
I think maybe you need to be promoted to Member before you can mess with your own Note?

Fake edit: dammit Merusk!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 21, 2011, 06:36:03 AM
I'm afraid the other sith will make fun of me running around with a blue light sabre... :awesome_for_real:.

And well they should, weaksauce.

I find the Orange lightsaber to be properly ambiguous.

Is it wrong that I want a pink crystal for my saber? I really really want one though...


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 21, 2011, 06:44:22 AM
I'm afraid the other sith will make fun of me running around with a blue light sabre... :awesome_for_real:.

And well they should, weaksauce.

I find the Orange lightsaber to be properly ambiguous.

Is it wrong that I want a pink crystal for my saber? I really really want one though...

Is that possible?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lantyssa on December 21, 2011, 07:29:15 AM
Dunno, but I'd kill for a purple crystal.  I'd kill an army for a purple crystal recipe.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: kildorn on December 21, 2011, 07:30:55 AM
The crystals exist, there are a bunch of npcs with the model, and I've heard some empire folks had them for a few days (I think a drop had the wrong crystal in it), but I don't know if they're craftable or not.

I hope they are, because the mid-30s blue rock formation is TOTALLY PURPLE, and it would be nice for them to just expand the color options a bunch.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 21, 2011, 07:37:58 AM

Is it wrong that I want a pink crystal for my saber? I really really want one though...

Is that possible?

BW put in a black sabre with yellow glow.  :uhrr:  Of course it is possible. It is available in the game or will it be at some point is the real question.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 21, 2011, 07:39:04 AM

Is it wrong that I want a pink crystal for my saber? I really really want one though...

Is that possible?

BW put in a black sabre with yellow glow.  :uhrr:  Of course it is possible. It is available in the game or will it be at some point is the real question.

Well yeah.  :oh_i_see:  Anyone find a list of all the colors you can have in game?


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: cironian on December 21, 2011, 07:44:47 AM
Well yeah.  :oh_i_see:  Anyone find a list of all the colors you can have in game?

http://www.torhead.com/items/catg/3/subcatg/3 , but that doesn't show you what is really available in game.

AFAIR, in addition to the normal ones:
 - Orange can be crafted at high level
 - Cyan can crafted through some rare recipe
 - Purple is available in high level drops

In Beta, lots of missions gave rare colors as rewards, but they took all of those out. :heartbreak:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: 01101010 on December 21, 2011, 07:50:38 AM
White might work... but no damn pink pisses me off a little.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Lantyssa on December 21, 2011, 08:15:50 AM
The crystals exist, there are a bunch of npcs with the model, and I've heard some empire folks had them for a few days (I think a drop had the wrong crystal in it), but I don't know if they're craftable or not.
Yes.  And fighting a boss with one made me mad that there wasn't a cut-scene of me picking up his saber to strip out the crystal...


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 21, 2011, 02:32:14 PM
By the way, I still don't have an actual fucking code for my origin-ordered SWTOR. I am so glad.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: MuffinMan on December 21, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
I like that I purchased my copy on Origin at 11:30PM on the 19th, they gave me the serial and I was able to log in right away. Didn't even have to download Origin, just used my beta client.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Thrawn on December 21, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
It tells you something when one of the positive points of a gaming service is when you don't have to actually use it.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Sjofn on December 21, 2011, 11:51:42 PM
Origin is ass, reject it and all its works. I knew better, but I did it anyway.

I will be buying ME3 in a store like some sort of savage when that comes out.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: eldaec on December 22, 2011, 02:51:45 AM
I will be buying ME3 in a store like some sort of savage when that comes out.  :why_so_serious:

I did this with swtor - I partied like it was 1999.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: apocrypha on December 22, 2011, 02:59:15 AM
I did this with swtor - I partied like it was 1999.

That was exactly how I was feeling when I was stood in the queue in Game with SWTOR clutched in my paws  :why_so_serious:

I was genuinely surprised that the salesperson was an adult, actually helpful and not retarded, so things have definitely improved since I was last in an actual games shop!


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: ajax34i on December 22, 2011, 03:10:16 AM
I guess you could look at it as an improvement...  That salesperson is probably way overqualified for the position, couldn't otherwise find a worthy job, and is being paid the tiny, "retarded teenager" salary.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: apocrypha on December 22, 2011, 03:14:56 AM
True enough.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Cyrrex on December 22, 2011, 03:24:18 AM
You forget the part where he has to do almost nothing to earn his wage and is surrounded by video games all day.  Could be worse!  Possibly.


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Tannhauser on December 22, 2011, 03:25:15 AM
No purple lightsabers!  Who the FUCK do you people think you are?  Are you Mace Windu/Samuel L. Jackson?  

"He will strike down, with furious anger, those who attempt to copy and demean his lightsaber.  And you will know his name is MACE WINDU!"


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: cironian on December 22, 2011, 03:36:30 AM
No purple lightsabers!  Who the FUCK do you people think you are?  Are you Mace Windu/Samuel L. Jackson?  

"He will strike down, with furious anger, those who attempt to copy and demean his lightsaber.  And you will know his name is MACE WINDU!"

Would be fine if it was consistently presented as super-rare. But with third-rate and often nameless NPCs all over the place holding purple lightsabers? That's what gets to me. So it's a common color in the game world but players just can't have it because someone decided that anything people might want has to be reserved for level 50.

(Personally, I think I'm going for orange, but my point still stands)


Title: Re: The Early Access/I'm in and you're not, neener-neener! Thread
Post by: Merusk on December 22, 2011, 04:00:39 AM
You forget the part where he has to do almost nothing to earn his wage and is surrounded by video games all day.  Could be worse!  Possibly.

No, it's worse.  You have to deal with the public who buys games in stores.  Unless they're a very rare and odd geek like myself who still enjoys physical copies that means clueless parents and grandparents.  The sort who get touchy when you don't understand what they're talking about when they say "that shooting game!"  and when asked what console give you a blank, hopeless look.   Them and teenagers, who are a blight in any retail establishment.

No, of all the retail jobs I think game store employee is among the worst.