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Well straight from sisi, you can test it yourself

There is a new structure on the market under planetary interaction which builds the Customs Оffіce‚ and the office got some 10 mil shield / 3 mil armor or something

Shield recharge is bugged though, something sillу like 12500 shield/s recharge vOv

In lоw/highѕec the custom offіces are owned by concord.

EVE Online´s Winter 2011 expansion will be themed around improvements to warfare and PVP. We will be talking more specifically about each of the features and items in the coming weeks but, for now, here‘s an overview of what functionality, systems and gameplay we‘re going to improve and add to.

Hybrid weapons balancing

Factional warfare

Assault ships

Capital ship balancing

New T2 modules

Starbase logistics management

New EWAR-Drones

T2 Rigs manufacturing

Ship spinning

New font

More captains quarters

Time dilation

commit to excellence

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2674

Supercarrier nerf. Fighter bays. Logoffski nerf. Moros drone bonus changed to hybrid bonus. Dreads buffed. Aaaaaaa!

(Hel still shit)

So basically you'd only field a super-capitals if you are confident you have the biggest blob? Seems the game-play outcomes are not very interesting other than super-caps being fielded a lot less.

Regarding Titan gun tracking:

I am well aware of the issue and considered making changes to it. I decided against it for this balancing pass. We are still working on the winter release and this is not completely off the table. There will be public testing of these balancing changes on SISI and we are ready to consider further changes if needed.

So basically you'd only field a super-capitals if you are confident you have the biggest blob? Seems the game-play outcomes are not very interesting other than super-caps being fielded a lot less.

I find it amusing that people are thinking that CCP is going to get this right (or close to right).

I find it amusing that people are thinking that CCP is going to get this right (or close to right).

I don't know: there has been a pretty radical shift.  One of the CCP devs had a long chat with a couple of our directors about how to fix a non-controversial but game-wide system: he came into it with a set of ideas that would have snapped the system like a twig but after talking his suggestions are now really useful and look very realistic.  CCP are consulting like hell, adapting freely and seem to be really keen to draw on expertise where it exists.

I don't know: there has been a pretty radical shift.  One of the CCP devs had a long chat with a couple of our directors about how to fix a non-controversial but game-wide system: he came into it with a set of ideas that would have snapped the system like a twig but after talking his suggestions are now really useful and look very realistic.  CCP are consulting like hell, adapting freely and seem to be really keen to draw on expertise where it exists.

[  Eve is millions of lines of spaghetti code and CCP's idea of QA has been "install it and fix the bugs based on the number of posts in CAOD."

If it brings about needed change, good for them.  At this point all that matters is results, not words.  I have been part of 'dev consults with players' before myself.  The results were disappointing. 

Player owned PI customs stations (http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2899) because PI was too much fun and Eve/Dust players want more floating space bricks to shoot at.

It has been decided to terminate about 114 employees of the Icelandic company CCP games and redundancies related to structural changes at the company. Workers in Atlanta in the U.S. will be reduced by 80 and employees in this country for thirty-four.
The organizational changes include, in particular the increased focus on the two games, EVE Online and Dust 514, but it will be the development of the game World of Darkness. The employees of CCP are now a total of 600 employees and said in a statement that they will be reduced by 20%. This decrease is greatest in the U.S. because of the development work on World of Darkness particular request. The notification says that CCP will focus on providing those workers who are here concerned support and help in finding new jobs.

More emphasis on the EVE Online

World of Darkness is one of the development of CCP began after the merger with the American company White Wolf Publishing in 2006. Working with the World of Darkness will continue, however, fewer staff will handle development of the game. EVE Online was first released in 2003 and aims to support the CCP even better supporting the development of EVE Online and additions to the game in the near future and the issue of Dust 514 next year. Hilmar Petursson, CEO Veigar CCP is currently located in Atlanta and works with management to reorganize the office operations and move consistent with the company. Has been consulted with Labour for those employees who lose their jobs in this country, and similar authorities in the U.S. state of Georgia.

Visible results quickly

The notice states that the growth of EVE Online previous year previous year indicate that significant opportunity lies in developing and strengthening further the world of EVE. EVE-world connection to PlayStation consoles with the introduction of Dust 514 shots of the game are still rather numerous opportunities for both these games. It is the CCP that the interests of the company to make full use of these opportunities call for a review of how business requirements are changing. The aim of the review that is taking place to ensure continued growth and development of CCP in the long run. EVE Online fans will see signs of progress the above changes in development CCP immediately in the next update of the game, due later this winter.

Good reality check there.  I guess it makes sense that taking the WoD team and refocusing it on EVE won't really bring in any more money, and certainly not enough to pay their salaries, and thus they're being laid off.  But that means that EVE will still be developed at pretty much the rate we've seen so far (almost nil), and once Dust 514 is out it'll be supported as much as EVE, while the majority of the team focuses on developing WoD.

Eve players do not want their "win" determined by the actions of players in a largely disconnected game they are excluded from. Attempting to sell that to Eve players as a "benefit" will be an impressive task that slots neatly into the areas CCP are terrible at.

I think Eve players are VERY keen to win and DUST will clearly become part of winning.

DUST needs take up from both Eve players and regular FPS console gamers but it's not the Eve powergamers that are the problematic group.

Regular FPS console gamers aren't going to pick this up in anything like the numbers needed, and they won't have the staying power required either.

CCP, who are incapable of releasing code that isn't buggy as shit, are trying to make a console game.  Don't console games have to somewhat bug free to be released?

Mysterious and meta, very nice.

That said all the action tends to converge on people, ships, floating space-bricks and stuff getting blown up within "one shared universe".

From an Eve point of view Dust is likely to end up being pretty much a random number generator where you can pay Isk to improve your chances.

I never figured Eve players would stand back and take no action in Dust. There are so many multi-boxers out there I figured they would add a game machine for Dust, and take part in their own battles. Recruiting their corp-mates to come with them.

I never figured Eve players would stand back and take no action in Dust.  There are so many multi-boxers out there I figured they would add a game machine for Dust, and take part in their own battles.   Recruiting their corp-mates to come with them.

It's going to be fascinating to watch though.

Also hybrids will now miss continually for more slightly more damage and the Diemos is 6% more agile.

the Diemos is 6% more agile.

 Deimos
  agility: 0.558 => 0.5859
  maxVelocity: 198.0 => 208.0

No changes to Rifters or Jaguars. :cry:

Haha...no! That would be overpowered, can't have that! Diemost is getting a bit higher top speed, at the price of higher inertia. Whenever it says in that document "Agility" what is actually meant is "Inertia Modifier". A higher number is NOT good.

10% DPS increase for railguns.
Blasters get a bit more tracking, easier fitting requirements. No damage buff.  :heartbreak:

Himo Amasacia,

Reactivate before October 31st, and jump back into EVE Online for only 4.95 for your first 30 days.

"Ship spinning" has returned in the October 18th patch as Hangar View is now back in station environments. Additionally, graphical and visual enhancements have been made to upgrade the lighting and performance of both ship and avatar environments. Speaking of which, the Amarr, Caldari and Gallente quarters are being fine-tuned for release this expansion.

The best part, though, is that the Winter 2011 Expansion is set to deliver some great new features and updates for the "Flying in Space" crowd, including:

   The Minmatar Tornado and its three factional counterparts introduce a new tier of battlecruiser.to the battlefield.
   Time Dilation and improved fleet combat
   New Font and UI Improvements
   Player Owned Customs Offices
   Capital Ship Balancing
   New Tech 2 modules
   New Electronic Warfare Drones


CCP Games is refocusing its efforts to deliver more content, more engaging gameplay features and more enhancements to live up to EVE Online's long-standing reputation as the premier virtual universe and sci-fi MMORPG.

Ship-troduction: The Minmatar Tornado
Reported by CCP Guard | 2011.10.21 15:22:05

As we have hinted at, the Tornado is warping into the 2011 winter expansion...and it‘s bringing friends.

 We couldn‘t just give the Minmatar a new ship and leave the other factions out (NPC military escalation doesn’t work like that), so, in the spirit of mutually assured destruction,  each of the factions have sent their best engineers and scientists to the drafting boards and will also be rolling out a new tier 3 battlecruiser.

„But isn‘t the Tornado a battleship?“

According to the original concept it was, yes. But when reviewing the armadas of existing ships we came to the conclusion that it would make much more sense to add another tier of battlecruisers instead of a fourth battleship, and that the accessibility of bc skills would mean more of these ships might be in the hands of younger, brasher pilots. That means more pew pew pew overall.

What sets these new battlecruisers apart from their lower tier cousins?

The most unique thing about them is that they will be able to fit battleship-sized weapons. Yes, you heard correctly... battlecruisers with oversized guns.

They will be capable of similar damage output as a battleship but obviously all that damage comes at a price.They won‘t be able to tank like a battleship, but what they lack in the tanking department the right pilot should be able to somewhat make up for  with speed and distance management. Those looking to start minmaxing fleets of TÖTALHELLDEATH will have to wait a bit for the stats.

The concept is; Violent, fast and fun.

In the following weeks we will be introducing the Tornado‘s three counterparts. Stay tuned!

Now *that* looks like a proper Minmatar ship: Somebody dropped a giant magnet into a scrapyard and strapped engines to what stuck together.

The one concern I have is that CCP said they're making it a battlecruiser so lower-SP pilots can get into them, but still forcing them to use BS weapons which still take a long time to train into.

Counterpoint: They're going to be the tier 3 BC so you're probably going to be looking towards a BS by that point anyway. So just start with racial_BS_guns 1 first instead of racial_bs_command 1

Which reminds me, will they finally remove insurance for getting Concordokken'd? You hear this topic come up during every pre-expansion related discussion, but it's more topical this time around.

Much like removing local from 0.0 this topic tends to come up any time CCP shows the slightest sign of changing anything in the game.

Removing insurance from high sec gankers?  Sensible.  What we get?   :CCP: 

An alternative approach, just off the top of my head, could be insurance payback for the victims cargo.

Just have all of a destroyed ships' cargo also be destroyed.

Just have all of a destroyed ships' cargo also be destroyed.

Think of all the scams that would spawn.

Just have all of a destroyed ships' cargo also be destroyed.

That would defintely be the way to eliminate ganking altogether.

The first time I ever got concorded, I was in Amarr chasing wardecs with an RRBS fleet.  We had parked on one of the gates when a red non-wartarget Vagabond landed there with us.  I opened fire without realizing what I was doing, then panicked and started calling for reps when Concord showed up and began killing me.  Half my fleet was blown up because of a rookie mistake.  I'm pretty sure one or two of you were there for this.  If insurance was removed entirely from getting Concorded, people who make rookie mistakes like that would also get screwed over.

would make suicide ganking a little less lucrative.

The problem being, BS guns can't hit a goddamn thing.  Especially without significant investment in gunnery skills.  So they've invented a wonder ship that has a battleship's sig and can't hit anything smaller than a battleship but has much worse tank than a battleship.  Where do I sign up?  Anyone who can fly a battleship should definitely be in one rather than one of these things, unless they have some amazing bonus we haven't been made aware of yet, or cost like 10 mil.

22.‬ New nebulae background
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‪25.‬ The glorious return of Engine Trails!

Two steps forward..one back.

Apparently scamming of any type is now not allowed in the recruitment channel if what I'm reading is true.  Although I guess you are fine if you just PM the person you want to scam and don't actually scam right in the channel which wouldn't be a big deal.  Anyone know for sure?

Titan tracking issue:
* "Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare" will also make you immune to remote "electronic assistance", that is: remote tracking enhancers and remote sensor boosters.

and they still probably only have a small fraction of their 300+ 200+ employees working on it, which makes the past year's hubris all the more outrageous.

Now that people made fire under their asses (both players and bankers complaining), development of EVE is suddenly surging like a motherfucker. Strange, huh?  :why_so_serious:

    * Supposed to be good as a damage platform against larger ship hulls (read battleships, capitals targets) while being difficult to hit themselves by those ships due to decreased signature radius and increased mobility
    * Better aimed for small, fast gang support than battleships due to their increased mobility
    * Provide a learning bridge between battlecruisers and battleships, while being themselves a little cheaper than battleships
    * Due to their large sized weaponry, supposed to be at a severe disadvantage against smaller hulls, especially at point blank range
    * Have significantly less standing power than battleships, or even other battlecruiser tiers, thus less proficient in static engagements, where their mobility is less relevant

This was once a memorial to the winners of a riddle contest sponsored by late entrepreneur Ruevo Aram. After standing proud for half a decade, it was destroyed in late YC113 by capsuleers who were staging a mass uprising against an intolerable status quo of intergalactic affairs. Today, the ruins of this once-great work of art stand as a testament to the fact that change is the universe's only constant.

http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/winterupdate

Yeah, you don't even have the comfort of feeling that your research agents are working away and you have a nice little nest egg to get going again when you return, because research agents stop now when you are unsubbed (I only found that out in the last 5 day free trial when I took a look in) So, you now have the fun of being broke when you come back, in a game that is brutal. Fuck that.

Yeah, you don't even have the comfort of feeling that your research agents are working away and you have a nice little nest egg to get going again when you return, because research agents stop now when you are unsubbed (I only found that out in the last 5 day free trial when I took a look in) So, you now have the fun of being broke when you come back, in a game that is brutal. Fuck that.

3) CCP are terrible and solutions are mostly futzing around at the boundaries of the core problem.

Ultimately it's not so much Eve's fault. It's inherent in the open-world PvP model. It was pretty much exactly the same in Kings-Age in that there'd be long periods of tedium followed by a one-sided war (generally while you are sleeping if it's defending) against people who invest scary amounts of time online. Darkfall looked to be exactly the same. Then you play something like Skyrim or Oblivion (Oscuro's makes it such a ball-breaker) and find the amazing comfort of gaming at your convenience.

I love the usual "Hah, if you cant make money after resubbing yuuu suck and I'm great" conversations. I mean seriously, your solution is PI, paying CCP money for isk and freaking incursions? "Hi there, its pay us money or grind like a mother fucker, and thats if you have access to 0.0 the day you resub. Good luck!"

I love the "I'm such a bitter vet your options disgust me." mentality. Honestly, where did I say you have to pay CCP any money, Sir T? Pretty sure I said the opposite.

I pay for multiple Eve accounts using PLEX and I am terrible at making money.

If you think PI involves any sort of grind then your crusade has dimmed your grasp on facts.

God damn you CCP for a system which requires me top pay attention to it for ten-fifteen minutes every couple of days.  You have made a powerful enemy.

Himo, you are coming across as the crazy ex or the evangelical, anti-smoking ex-smoker or something.  Maybe its time to just let go?

I'm trying to talk about the game in general, not the game as it is with the really good reimbursement policies in goons. Most people cant resub and be in goons the next day. I mean sure I used to grind for a night and then spend weeks in fleets when I was in goons, but that's not the experience for most of the game. Hell its not even the experience for most of 0.0. Hell I was talking with an ex cry havoc guy in STO the other day who lamented on the hours he had to spend managing 6 freaking towers (his words)

Shockingly, EVE is designed to be played with others.

1) The fun you can find yourself isn't.

2) The fun that exists in the game depends on the vagaries of other people. Fights at the right time, when you can commit a potentially sizable but unknown amount of time online (since you can't easily leave), in the right place, with a good FC, against a reasonably balanced enemy force and at a scale the servers can handle. plus Australian time-zones tend to be pretty dead generally.

I'm being ferocious, but actually in my view it was designed organically. The original CCP design (remember they were given Eve, a game someone else designed, for a song)

Simon & Schuster is doing fine, they just dropped the idea of publishing video games and publish Glenn Beck's ghostwritten garbage instead.

Ya  it''s hard to find publishing information on the original Eve release on the net anymore. For some reason I had their original publisher confused with SSI (Strategic Simulations) the guys who published the Panzer General series

I think you're misremembering here. Iirc CCP designed and built Eve then bought it back when their publisher went tits up.

No, I think magic unicorns farted and out popped EVE.

I'm being ferocious

It's a good business strategy

Won't know about stealth nerfs until after the patch, as, by definition, they aren't listed in the patch notes.

Unexpected change to hybrids:  reload time reduced to 5 seconds instead of 10.

That's a long list of patch notes. Bodes well.

The 'Load Station Environments' option in the ESC Menu has changed slightly:
OFF: You can't enter Captains Quarter's and you have a static background image when in the Ship Hangar, hence unable to spin your ship.
ON: You can spin your ship in the Ship Hangar and can freely switch between Captains Quarter's and the Ship Hangar. Note that if you do not go into the Captains Quarter's, nothing extra is loaded when in the ship hangar.

Christ, didn't catch the drift the first time? One step forward, two steps back. Never change, CCP.

It's reload time, not ROF (rate of fire).  You shoot your 140 bullets in the gun then only spend 5 seconds to reload.  Compared to instant for lasers and 10 seconds for projectiles.

As far as patch notes, they mention each item like 3 times (once in the summary, once in its category (ships vs. UI changes), and once in the "fixes" section) making the patch notes quite longer than they need to be.

What's the problem? You can either spin your ship, or you can switch it off to save resources in case your machine isn't exactly very powerful, or you want to run lots of clients.

http://i.imgur.com/uJs4t.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/uJs4t.jpg)

An overview of all of Eve's expansions.

The JBs are visible on the ingame browser now. :ye_gods:

What's the problem? You can either spin your ship, or you can switch it off to save resources in case your machine isn't exactly very powerful, or you want to run lots of clients.

Seems to be just active ones in my own alliance.

It's a good business strategy: build something niche, get someone else to pay, but it out when you can see how to fix it and the publisher just sees the unplayable nightmare you've had to go to launch with :V


I suspect you mean facetious.

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Reading some analysis on the Tier-3 Battlecruisers which seem to have a limited to non-existent practical role other than gank ships.

I have 2 maelstroms and 10-15 hurricanes to kill off before I'll start derping around in fleets with a sensorboosted instanado to see how it works as an anti-bomber platform compared to the hurricanes.

*New agents list, it tells you if you've been offered or if you've accepted a mission from an agent
*Watch list can now have 15 people
*Watch list can now be ordered by dragging and dropping pilots
*Chat member list can be made more compact, right click on chat tab and "Show Compact Member List"
*New icons for online/offline, blocked and voice in member lists
*The online/offline notification which pops up when your buddy/enemy logs in is now has standings icon
*Said notificaction can be dragged to chat to info link that pilot and right clicked on
*You can now shift click modules to overload them
*Overload button shows feedback from when it's been clicked until it's activated/deactivated
*You can now filter the skills you see in your character sheet and skill queue to find the skill you want

CCP Punkturis posted the improvements coming in the next patch:

I'm actually with Yoji on some of his arguments, and had considered writing a big Manifesto on EVE-O about how I think the "EVE Sandbox" has overflown.

This game is currently about numbers. Numbers of support and/or numbers of capitals and/or numbers of supercapitals.

Yes, there are ways to counter numbers to certain extent, but at certain point that becomes impossible due to the sheer numbers that counter draws. In not too distant future (ie within the next 6 months) -- you WILL see one side in EVE field over 200 Titans in battle. Or non-battle as it will be -- because there is nothing you can do about that number of Titans.

But is that ultimately any more or less broken than what we have already seen on the number of subcapitals? 1500 pilots, with say 800+ Maelstroms have already been fielded. And there's fuckall you can do about that either.

The sandbox has spiralled overtime to counter subcapitals with capitals, which in turn have been countered with more subcapitals by creating coalitions, which in turn have been countered by yet more capitals by forming coalitions already heavy in capitals. And so the hamster wheel will continue to turn and turn and turn.

About the only thing going for EVE right now is that there are entities like -A- (and PL at the time), who are not attached to their space and will simply walk away. And come back in some time in the future when the numbers can be countered.

But -- to suggest that somehow simply changing one leg of the wheel (ie. lets say titans) will somehow magically "fix" this game, I believe is fucking retarded and ultimately selfserving to the interest and fighting type of the alliance the member is part of who is suggesting this. All you will do is force yet more megacoalitions to be formed and suddenly everyone in EVE will have to have a 600 man BS gang to defend their most important assets. Or everyone will have to go the way of the blueball and recapture.

I think we'd be far better off fucking accepting the fact that the sandbox has overflown. It's fucking done. No point in trying to patch the holes, fucking knock that shit down and build yourself a playground instead. Playground with rules, guidelines and barriers to limit and direct what and how you are able to do things.

I think that Titans shouldn't be the end-all of combat in EVE. I've said that for like 2-3 years now. I'd like all offensive abilities removed from them. But I also believe that what the game needs are ways to limit and discourage what the end-all of current combat ships (Titan) is countering -- ie. subcapital numbers.

How you do it is of course up for debate, but you could fucking start by first acknowledging that sandbox was for time when this game wasn't ancient. It was for when EVE was young and fresh, not when a new person can go and buy a character that can fly any ship they want + the ship itself with relative ease. The game is old and old sandboxes break under wear and tear.

So start implementing encouragements to smaller size combat (not a single sov objective for example) and start limiting what pure numbers are able to do (ie. damage mitigation, or proximity sensor strenght disruption, etc). Yes. It is sandbox no more, but fuck it at least it's got a chance to NOT be so FUCKING broken.

Make sov taking EASY, not hard. If you make it easy, you allow small entities to take space without having to wait fucking 4-6 days for it. You make it harder for massive alliances to defend 4 regions. Yes, it makes it VERY easy to also LOSE space -- but fuck it -- I think -A- has it right in many ways in that if you get blobbed to fuck, you should just be able to go v0v and come back few weeks after if the assaulter REALLY doesn't want to live in the space they just conquered.

But -- you have to balance that by making it hurt financially if you walk away. Sure -- make stations destroyable, but create a wreck instead for example which you can rebuild -- at cost. Also boost the rewards of owning space, so people will want to rebuild said wrecks and defend the space they own so they won't loose income/have to rebuild assets.

Anyway... maybe one day I will write my manifesto for broken sandboxes, but today I will just bitch and whine v0v.

Time Dilation was turned on unannounced recently. It crashed the node almost instantly.