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Title: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Ghambit on May 20, 2011, 12:20:36 PM
Welp, they're not exactly "boothgirls" YET... 
I'm trying to advise them on breaking into the convention circuit this year as they've expressed interest when I brought it up.  Basically, it's a troupe of about a dozen club-dancers ("It girls") from the D.C. area.  Most are ridiculously gorgeous and have sick amounts of talent.  But, the main thing is they do their own professional hair/makeup/costuming.
Their main shtick is bringing a bit more modern cosplay to the go-go scene.  I've used them occasionally over the summers here to "bring the party" for my boss so to speak.... which they're good at.

So my developer friends on here, lend me a hand.  Advice, referrals, contacts? gimme!  :grin:
What kind of money do these ladies make anyways?

And no, I cannot post pics presently as I dont have permission yet.   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: HaemishM on May 20, 2011, 12:21:26 PM
And no, I cannot post pics presently as I dont have permission yet.   :oh_i_see:

You disappoint me.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Trippy on May 20, 2011, 12:24:06 PM
And no, I cannot post pics presently as I dont have permission yet.   :oh_i_see:
That's never stopped you from posting things you shouldn't be before.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Ghambit on May 20, 2011, 12:24:41 PM
And no, I cannot post pics presently as I dont have permission yet.   :oh_i_see:

You disappoint me.

I'm workin on it man... patience


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Paelos on May 20, 2011, 12:56:46 PM
You're a fucking tease, and I refuse to give you any advice on those grounds.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: IainC on May 20, 2011, 01:25:30 PM
The boothgirls we've hired in the past have been through agencies that supply local convention halls. Generally exhibitors will go through an agency for simplicity and accountability. Mostly the girls that are on the books are local students who spend their weekends alternately pretending to be super-excited about tractors/plumbing supplies/video games/etc. If your friends want to break into that then they should probably find out which agencies are serving the local events and get signed up. That will increase their chances by several orders of magnitude.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Morat20 on May 20, 2011, 01:34:27 PM
If Iain's correct, they should also go ahead and realize that there's going to be the usual "Dues paying" portion of the job. Like everything else, they might really find the idea of being a boothgirl for a gaming or comic convention fun and exciting and a neat way to make money....

But they're probably going to have to pay for that by doing tractor shows, boat shows, etc.

In the end, boothgirls are pretty women draped over "stuff" in an effort to make the "Stuff" seem more appealing. Unless they are just truly phenomonal at selling objects via their hotness, so much so that they can dictate their own jobs, they're going to have to sell boring shit too.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Lantyssa on May 20, 2011, 02:14:55 PM
That's never stopped you from posting things you shouldn't be before.
You made the rest of my pre-Rapture hour worthwhile. :heart:


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: ghost on May 20, 2011, 02:35:56 PM
I think there should be a strict no pics, no advice rule.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Strazos on May 20, 2011, 03:01:12 PM
And no, I cannot post pics presently as I dont have permission yet.   :oh_i_see:

Hey, I'm local so I'm available to inspect in-person.  :awesome_for_real:

So what are we talking about here, local George Washington/George Mason students?

And what do you mean by "It girls" ? I think I know what you mean, but the terms I would normally use...are not for polite company.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Engels on May 20, 2011, 03:23:00 PM
An It girl or It-girl is an attractive young woman who receives intense media coverage unrelated or disproportional to personal achievements.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_girl)


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: MahrinSkel on May 20, 2011, 05:23:47 PM
Yeah, my only experience hiring booth-girls was E3 2001, we just called an agency and told them we needed a brunette, a blond, and a redhead for the show, 8 hours a day.  They sent us a bunch of head shots and told us that we had to pay an extra day for the costume fitting.

Then the girls weren't happy because their outfits were too modest (we went for authentic medieval rather than renn-faire wench), because it reduced their chances of getting noticed and posted into the "booth babes of E3" collections online (which would be good for their future employment prospects).

--Dave


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Paelos on May 20, 2011, 06:21:22 PM
So they are whores?


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: MahrinSkel on May 20, 2011, 06:40:16 PM
So they are whores?
Generally...not necessarily.  There's some overlap of strippers and escorts with "model" in general.  We didn't ask, they didn't say.  Their job was to hang around the booth, take pictures with anyone that asked, and refer any questions about the game or appointments to one of the Mythic employees.

--Dave


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Paelos on May 20, 2011, 06:51:33 PM
Ah, so they are politicians.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Johny Cee on May 20, 2011, 06:53:00 PM
I start thinking in '30s gangster whenever I see this thread title...

"Yah, see...  I got these molls.  These gun molls...  pretty broads, but I can't get no action from them, see...  Vinnie, grab the heaters!  Yah, see... these coppers ain't going to take us alive!"


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Margalis on May 20, 2011, 07:05:34 PM
Pretty much what IainC said, hook up with an agency. At least at a video game show nobody is going to spend their time contracting individuals or groups without representation unless they know them or something.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Sand on May 21, 2011, 06:03:53 AM
My boy Ghambit is a pimp!  :awesome_for_real:
Just make sure you keep a black book of all your high profile clients for future book deal or black mail material.



Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Ghambit on May 21, 2011, 01:02:06 PM
I think there should be a strict no pics, no advice rule.

Permission was given   :grin:
For a sample gallery go here - some NSFW (http://infini.imgur.com/misc)
(you may repost if you'd like)

Here's a small sample:
(http://edge.imgur.com/m2Qvz.jpg)


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Ghambit on May 21, 2011, 01:27:18 PM
The boothgirls we've hired in the past have been through agencies that supply local convention halls. Generally exhibitors will go through an agency for simplicity and accountability.

So the agency used is dependent on the particular convention hall?  e.g. the hall refers you to an agent
Or, do you guys find your own agencies?

PM me with the agent pleasethanks, but I'm gonna assume you're implying a shotgun approach to this.  Splurge the portfolio to all the local agencies I guess.  pfft
I need the inside track here man!  Brownie points are to be made.

Oh, and these ladies wont shine with your typical "CarShow" type gig.  They're bred more to bring the noise in costume, hype a show or party, do a dance routine, maybe pour drinks, serve food, and even DJ if needed.  I wouldnt refer them to a job where they just stand there in a dress-suit pointing to a Ferrari.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Chimpy on May 21, 2011, 03:06:48 PM
So they are couple of girls who work as slutbox dancers?


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Strazos on May 21, 2011, 03:09:46 PM
Oh, and these ladies wont shine with your typical "CarShow" type gig.  They're bred more to bring the noise in costume, hype a show or party, do a dance routine, maybe pour drinks, serve food, and even DJ if needed.  I wouldnt refer them to a job where they just stand there in a dress-suit pointing to a Ferrari.

Why not just shotgun all the nicer clubs in the tri-state area; DC, Baltimore...I'm not sure there are really any "clubs" in Arlington/Alexandria, etc.

And if this is their sort of thing, I'm not sure what the problem would be with a Ferrari gig - I'm sure Ferrari pays good money.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: IainC on May 21, 2011, 03:22:13 PM
The boothgirls we've hired in the past have been through agencies that supply local convention halls. Generally exhibitors will go through an agency for simplicity and accountability.

So the agency used is dependent on the particular convention hall?  e.g. the hall refers you to an agent
Or, do you guys find your own agencies?

PM me with the agent pleasethanks, but I'm gonna assume you're implying a shotgun approach to this.  Splurge the portfolio to all the local agencies I guess.  pfft
I need the inside track here man!  Brownie points are to be made.

Oh, and these ladies wont shine with your typical "CarShow" type gig.  They're bred more to bring the noise in costume, hype a show or party, do a dance routine, maybe pour drinks, serve food, and even DJ if needed.  I wouldnt refer them to a job where they just stand there in a dress-suit pointing to a Ferrari.

No, you find an agency in the town where the convention is because the girls aren't being paid enough to travel outside their local area and because any town with a convention centre/expo hall will have staffing agencies to support the events there - everything from caterers to boothgirls.

I didn't book the girls for the shows I was at but basically it works the way that Dave described. You ask for X number of warm bodies and can specify certain attributes if you need to (hair colour, size, ethnicity etc) you also say what kind of costumes the girls will be wearing (you will provide the costumes). The agency sends you a bunch of headshots and you pick the ones you like. For Leipzig we had the same girls several years runnign because they liked working for us. From their side they fill out a basic profile questionnaire, get their photo taken and wait for the agency to get back to them. The questionnaire is mostly about what kind of limits they have with clothing options (which is matched to the type of costume the customer will be providing) and their availability rather than anything more personal.

If your girls are acting as a troupe then a decent agent should be able to market them as that rather than as generic boothgirls and get them gigs where they are doing whatever it is that they do. They should still sign up with at least one agency though in the town where they are based because otherwise they won't get much work doing anything beyond shitty nightclub stuff.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Ghambit on May 21, 2011, 04:42:48 PM
Thanks, I'll get em on it.

So they are couple of girls who work as slutbox dancers?

No, not that simple but they do/have worked as "slutbox dancers" before.  Sometimes they indeed work the stripclubs though, gogo shows, private parties (like raves, musicfests, and what-not), etc.  For example they got flown down to Miami to work the stages at Ultra.  I hire them to tend my bar and keep people smiling, which they excel at because they've got great attitudes - something many "boothgirls" severely lack.

Part of this whole thing is to try and break them out into something different and less "scummy" I guess.  A few of these girls are indeed the Gtown/GM type, some with degrees or working on degrees.  A few are VERY bright and probably should be doing something else (the one in the pic is studying to be an IP lawyer for instance).  I figure I can help them out and expose them to a different scene, whilst maybe bringing something a bit edgier to these largely docile conventions.

It's also not like it's easy to find intelligent, party-oriented, nice/happy, highly skilled in dance and gymnastics, DJing, beautiful girls who can self-cosplay.  All the while they genuinely enjoy what they do.  (shrug)  I will say the odds of finding such a female are pretty high in the D.C. college/party-scene though.  They grow girls like this on trees here, even if they dont work the clubs.  And I highly doubt an agency in Indianapolis for instance (for GenCon) would be able to produce similar local talent.   Maybe prettier girls, but that's about it... which is why I thought this group would do best in an active show, not simply standing there looking good in front of a car (they dont quite have the right looks for that).


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Pennilenko on May 21, 2011, 05:37:27 PM
Ah, so they are politicians.

Yup...whores.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Strazos on May 21, 2011, 05:54:28 PM
Dude, what bar is this, if you don't mind us asking?

Not so much because I'm going to jump right down there, but more because I may have already been there.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Ghambit on May 21, 2011, 07:04:58 PM
Dude, what bar is this, if you don't mind us asking?

Not so much because I'm going to jump right down there, but more because I may have already been there.

They work multiple places I think.  And I wouldnt say, if I knew.  I actually dont even hang at any of these places.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: rattran on May 21, 2011, 07:16:07 PM
I hire them to tend my bar and keep people smiling
...
They work multiple places I think.  And I wouldnt say, if I knew.  I actually dont even hang at any of these places.

You don't actually know these girls, do you.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Merusk on May 21, 2011, 07:20:01 PM
Not as well as he'd like.  Seems like a lot of effort for a little tail.  :grin:


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: schild on May 21, 2011, 08:34:02 PM
Neither here nor there, but every girl in the linked gallery is ugly, and not just sharp knees ugly.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Strazos on May 21, 2011, 08:58:01 PM
I hire them to tend my bar and keep people smiling, which they excel at because they've got great attitudes - something many "boothgirls" severely lack.

I actually dont even hang at any of these places.

You don't hang out at your own bar?  :headscratch:


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Der Helm on May 22, 2011, 05:38:42 AM
I once saw a man getting eaten by a shark.  :grin:


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Sand on May 22, 2011, 06:52:20 AM
I once saw a man getting eaten by a shark.  :grin:

Was it your shark?


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Ghambit on May 22, 2011, 08:06:33 AM
I hire them to tend my bar and keep people smiling
...
They work multiple places I think.  And I wouldnt say, if I knew.  I actually dont even hang at any of these places.

You don't actually know these girls, do you.

I know 3 of em.  Friend of a friend and all that.  Never went to any of their other parties, I hired 'em for my own.  Savvy?

Neither here nor there, but every girl in the linked gallery is ugly, and not just sharp knees ugly.

I was saying in a roundabout way the exact same thing, which is why they (save one of them) wouldnt excel in certain boothgirl situations (like the ones where you just stand there and be gorgeous).  They're your typical dancers, all body for the most part (minus boobage).

Not as well as he'd like.  Seems like a lot of effort for a little tail.  :grin:

Touche.  But, not really trying to get laid.  And a lot of effort?  If only a single forum-post was enough (sigh).  We'd all be happier men.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Paelos on May 22, 2011, 11:40:50 AM
I'm with Schild on this one. There's a lot of butterface going on there.

Still, toss some masks and facepaint on em, and you're looking at a good time. Fantasy genre, ahoy!


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Ghambit on May 22, 2011, 01:47:58 PM
I'm pretty sure the word "ugly" is a bit overkill though.  Do they belong in the T&A thread?  'Course not.  But I guarantee if you spent an evening with most of these girls they'd get a rise outta you.  :awesome_for_real: The pix really arent the greatest either as I didnt post em for much more than the costuming.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Vaiti on May 22, 2011, 01:53:13 PM
You don't hang out at your own bar?  :headscratch:


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Threash on May 22, 2011, 05:29:08 PM
I'm with Schild on this one. There's a lot of butterface going on there.



This is why jesus invented doggy style.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Paelos on May 22, 2011, 08:38:03 PM
Pretty sure Snoop invented it.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Slyfeind on May 22, 2011, 10:56:16 PM
I'm pretty sure the word "ugly" is a bit overkill though.  Do they belong in the T&A thread?  'Course not.  But I guarantee if you spent an evening with most of these girls they'd get a rise outta you.  :awesome_for_real: The pix really arent the greatest either as I didnt post em for much more than the costuming.

Yeah, I wouldn't say they're "ugly". I think we've all seen the truly ugly, and it's not them. They're all right.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Draegan on May 23, 2011, 07:31:47 AM
I'd say they're pretty average for skinny chicks.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Ghambit on May 23, 2011, 10:27:56 AM
Most chicks look pretty busted when taking pics of them hot,sweaty, and dancing in the club.
Properly done-up two of them are fairly striking and well beyond average... just not enough for what I'd hire as a showcase boothgirl.  But then again, I'm a picky bastard.

When I think of a proper boothgirl I think more of a classic supermodel type chic, the compromise being a high-end bikini model type.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Furiously on May 23, 2011, 01:21:15 PM
Michelle Pham has taught me that with enough make-up anyone can look pretty.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Morat20 on May 23, 2011, 01:36:52 PM
Michelle Pham has taught me that with enough make-up anyone can look pretty.
My wife owns several makeup books -- done by the "go-to" folks in modelling and photography, not people selling makeup -- and in there is enough photographic proof that skilled hands behind a makeup brush can make anyone pretty.

Male, female, and possibly alien to boot.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: ghost on May 23, 2011, 01:39:53 PM
Edit by Trippy: cut it out


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: rattran on May 23, 2011, 02:15:58 PM
Ghost, don't start shitting up this stupid thread with pictures of your mom.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: tazelbain on May 23, 2011, 02:24:44 PM
This thread was shit to begin with, schild doubled down, and ghost is trippling down.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: sinij on May 23, 2011, 07:00:54 PM
Nothing that paper bag wouldn't fix.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Strazos on May 23, 2011, 07:30:02 PM
Wow, are we even really in paper bag territory? Really?

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: ghost on May 23, 2011, 07:37:29 PM
They're all pink on the inside.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: IainC on May 24, 2011, 12:16:48 AM
When I think of a proper boothgirl I think more of a classic supermodel type chic, the compromise being a high-end bikini model type.

Yeah! No.

Think more 'college student' and less 'lingerie model'. The requirements for being a boothgirl are:

  • Female
  • Youngish (late 20s or so at most)
  • Not physically disfigured
  • Not fat
  • Has washed
  • Has a pulse

Being headturningly hot isn't necessary because smiling and pretending to be interested in talking to you goes a long way towards making an averagely pretty girl more attractive.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Ironwood on May 24, 2011, 12:20:12 AM
True that.  It's half the battle.  The other half is beer.


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: Der Helm on May 24, 2011, 05:16:15 AM
True that.  It's half the battle.  The other half is beer.

There is beer ? I might have to visit the Gamescon show in Germany then...  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: So, I've got these "Boothgirls" see...
Post by: UnSub on May 24, 2011, 07:45:45 AM
Welp, they're not exactly "boothgirls" YET... 

And we've established that you don't actually have them, per se.

This thread has been a disappointment.

 :grin:

The only other side of things I would say try (from an event management point of view) is to get in contact with the people who run the kind of events you want your people to end up at and see if they'll tell you which agencies they use, or even if they have some recommendations. You might end up sending off a few emails that get no replies, but at this point all you are looking for is a lead.

Or track down (:awesome_for_real:) a boothgirl from some interview and see if they list the agency there. Or if you can get in contact with them and get their advice. I'm sure I've seen boothgirl interviews before.