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With a headline like this it's bound to be everywhere in a few hours, but anyway .... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42887887/ns/us_news-weird_news/

Wonderful West Virginia, where the Onion comes true.   :awesome_for_real:

Sometimes I think these guys do this stuff just to become Internet Famous.  Like they're trying to get a reality show contract.

--Dave

Nope, crystal meth. 

Even high, W? T? F?

Apparently bath salts are the new drug craze for meth users. Aka Ivory Wave, Bliss, and Hurricane Charlie.

http://bathsaltsdrug.com/ (http://bathsaltsdrug.com/) There's a site that reviews them and talks about the various highs. Read that if you want an eye-opener.

That youtube video on that page about Texas brought tears of laughter to my eyes. Not even sure why.

I had the other night: 

Drunk ass goldie locks--he got drunk, wandered into someones house that wasn't locked and fell asleep on the couch, then got up and fell down the stairs when the owner came home, of course he is like 6' 8" and big, stumbling, and yelling.

An overdose by a guy who was deaf and mute, so he got activated charchoal and then got mad since we wouldn't give him pain meds and benzo's so he starts yelling and shits the bed.

84 year old lady with really bad dementia / alzhiemers and is deaf, so she keeps yelling "I gotta pee!"

43 year old female who is paranoid w/ active psychosis going on, due to drug abuse of meth and bath salts, and past history of mental illness, she kept hearing things in the room and starts wailing like a banshee stating her boy friend is coming to kill her with some chemicals they bought and take her id.

And then we get the 92 year old lady who is actively dieing, she has advanced stage COPD/CHF and her O2 sats are dropping and she is going to die soon, thank goodness the family made her a DNR, but they still had to listen to all the screaming and the cop taking down goldie locks when he got up and challenged the cop and our registration girl.

4 people screaming at once and one trying to die, I was so glad we had a good crew that night.  Goldie Locks went to jail after being cleared, the elderly lady went to comfort care w/her family (she lasted 3 more hours), the one with dementia went to a med bed for nursing home placement after some geodon and ativan, the overdose had to clean his mess up and then went to ICU, the poor psych lady had to wait for placement but she got geodon and ativan too.  That medicine rocks!

Bath salts are like a legal meth for now, it is a synthetic type that causes an euphoria that last about 4-6 hours, but has side effects that last 8, and has some crazy things that you can slip into when doing the drug.  It is another one that will mess with your dopamine receptors so you will never have a high as great and as long as the first, but will chase it from then on.  Pretty much another form of tweaking.

This isn't ED, Jimbo, but when I was a surgery intern we had a guy that had constipation for like a week.  Come to find a med student had tegadermed (fixed, for Strazos :oh_i_see:) his ass shut.  You can imagine the "end result".   :grin:

You mean Tegaderm'd?  :awesome_for_real:

Holy fuck I honestly assumed Paelos' post and that site were a joke. WTF is wrong with people?

Nope dead serious. You obviously ain't from round here, son.

I'm not going to try to look it up here at work, but....bath salts?  As in, salts that you use in your bath?  Or is it just some fandangled lingo I've never heard before?

They are chemicals sold as bath salts as a legal fig leaf.  Analogous to the legal marijuana substitutes sold as 'incense'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxypyrovalerone)

I need to copy/paste Jimbo's post for all the pre-med students that have no clue what they're getting into.  I loved studying medicine, but the job of a physician sucks ass. 

Mephedrone is sold as plant fertilizer (and bath salts as well probably).

Oh mephedrone, it's just recently been banned here after being really popular among students and general clubbers for a while simply because it was legal. Knew a guy who funded his MSc selling it. I really didn't get the fuss, which is probably why I never really took to recreational drugs.

How I know I'm old. I had not heard of this at all.

TBH, if you lived outside of Georgia, Florida, Mississippi, or Alabama, you probably wouldn't have much local cause to know.

Yeah.  Your profile says you are 27 and live in San Francisco.  I'm not at all surprised that you hadn't heard about this.

This is your big chance to be the guy that can say, "Yeah, I intoduced that to this scene," Hoax!

Yeah, we like our highs stupid as fuck down here.

I don't like the war on drugs, but I won't make all drugs legal, and if we do make some legal we need better testing to see if under the influence when driving.

I really don't like PCP, Meth, Bath Salts, Crystal Meth, Ice, Crank, Crack, Rhobo-tripping, Tripple C'ing, those fuckers hurt me, my friends & co-workers, and cause way to much damage and violence.

I really like the THC overdoses, they set there and giggle, then ask for food, then fall asleep.

What is really funny is that I have to take a 400 level course for my public health degree called Substance Abuse Education, lol I wonder if I'll have more experience in treating substance abuse than my professor  ;D

Another thing that blows my mind is most people now figure out you can't drink and drive, but how some people think taking narcotics or benzo's should be okay to get hammered on those and go driving all jellyfied.

We have massive meth campaigns in Georgia. It's absurd that people even do it down here, but whatever. They are obviously taking it on hardcore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTe-XAVllpc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTe-XAVllpc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQQjn1h2B8U&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQQjn1h2B8U&feature=relmfu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA8IfmDviHY&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA8IfmDviHY&feature=relmfu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ve0pKvCEo&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ve0pKvCEo&feature=relmfu)

and I thought I was wack by smoking banana peels, eating nutmeg, and making jimson weed tea back in the day.

Is this even possible?

Ohhh yes.

I would have thought any effects would have been lack of air due to trying to smoke a pound in a few minutes.

What is considered an "overdose"?

"Overdose" doesn't imply "fatal overdose", but you can definitely get more than you bargained for.  Passing out, like Jimbo says, or just being so loopy that you need to find someplace to sit down and hold on for dear life.

Oh, well OK then. Overdose to me has always implied "High risk of death or injury".

Is this firsthand knowledge?   :grin:

Wow, feet hurt and we had way to many crazy people overdosing or misusing stuff last night!  Started off with an overdose of klonipin, seriquil, and METH!  After she wrote a suicide note, she got so fucked up on those three she passed out and fell down the stairs, so we also have a possible spinal/head injury, made for one helluva ride.  She was a bucking bronco and had a GCS of 8, so she couldn't get under control with sedation so we ended up RSI'ing her and got her calmed down, then she seized! Fuck, have not seen someone take that much meth at once in a long time!  So she went to ICU, sad thing, no family ever came for her.  She is my age too, very pretty, but has the IV drug use look to her (infections from shooting up in arms, scars on her arms from trying to kill her self, bruises in various stages of healing, and a broken mind), even her friend who she was staying with didn't come to see her.

We had another that was drinking a bottle of wine in one hand, bottle of lisinipril in the other (HTN med), and was yelling at the cop that she wasn't going to stop drinking and once she was done she was gonna go shoot her husband (since he has 4 girl friends, "that bastard just came out and told me that!"), the police told her to put the pill bottle and wine bottle down, so she threw them down and charged the cop...go figure!  Another ICU admit.

My small town has the white trash or trailer park drugs, which is usually Methamphetamine and Marijuana, then probably huffing (mostly gold paint), prescription Rx abuse, and cheap psychdelic type drugs (mushrooms, banana peels, jimson weed, tripple C'ing or Robo-triping, or my favorite from towlie end dust huffing!).  They want a cheap drug that last a long time, oh cigarettes and alcohol are almost always done with these drugs sometimes, or they alternate between them.  End Dust huffing is the craziest!  It is like Russian roulette, you have like a 22% chance when you huff Dust Off or End Dust to just up and die!  Sweet odds.  Another thing is to do whippets from the whipped cream bottle, and here I just wanted to make bikini's out of whipped cream...

I'm noticing more and more misuse of prescription drugs, so the illegals were on a decline, especially with the restriction on sudafed, but now both are rising again.

Yes... that does happen.

As does passing out, but with me - to a lesser degree.

A roommate I had in college used to love whippets, this is ~15 years ago so they aren't new at all.  Anyway, at a party he huffed a big balloon, turned a dark shade of blue, passed out for 30 seconds, had a couple of convulsions and then came too and seemed fine.  I took one look at that production and decided that whippets weren't in the cards for me.

Time to party like it's 1799.

They're definitely a bad deal on the cost/length of high front, but probably just about the easiest thing to buy.

All these quick-fix highs bother me, despite my being okay with legalizing drugs in general.  But then I had a crush on a girl that got nudged when doing freon and inhaled too much.  It was a slow death.

My parents sat me down when I was 12 (I'm 36) and asked if I was doing Whippits because I'd gone through the last 2 cans of whipped cream they'd bought for some party in about 3 days.  My confused response was something along the lines of, "what's that? I just really like whipped cream."  Whippits are ancient, as sheepherder implies.

I went through a phase about 10 years ago, a few guys i used to know always had a tank of medical grade nitrous at their parties. watching people pass out and go blue repeatedly while desperately hanging onto a balloon always kept me away from the stuff. Just a shame i didn't have any such deterrent for the other party favors that were around.

Having had nitrous so many times at the dentist's office, the "novelty factor" is generally gone for me for whippets.  These days I'm more of a fan of using them in small amounts to potentiate other substances, and the somewhat-regular exploding balloon from cold damage is enough to remind me to be mindful of what I'm doing.

Reading stories about people huffing freon, paint, or glue (or straight nitrous in large amounts) freaks me out a bit - I'm not into permanent damage or death for a brief high.  Heck, the story of Townes Van Zandt losing his teeth due to sniffing glue gives me the willies to this day.

Nitrous oxide is pretty harmless unless you happen to be asphyxiating yourself, aspirating vegetable oil or whipped cream, breathing the gas cold, or inhaling (dirty) gas not meant for human use.  Cold gasses damaging your lungs isn't too much of a concern if you're decanting it into a balloon, and your airways after that actually do a pretty good job of heating the gas to the point where it won't damage your lungs.  Don't count on heavy breathing to indicate that you need oxygen, your body doesn't work that way.


As far as I know the only property that Freon has that could possibly be construed as a method of getting high is it's capacity to inhibit the bonding of oxygen, if I'm recalling the ~science~ correctly.  This is probably more damage than you were/are equipped to handle unless you happened to have a Psych doctorate at the time.


Yes, legalize some of this shit.  It's fucking hateful knowing that in the process of making a motherfucking grow op (weed doesn't hurt anyone, right?) that the asshats doing so will willfully bypass the electricity, install boobytraps, compromise the structure of the building so that once they've grown a bit their plants get sunlight, and until then will hide their horseshit by throwing plywood over the gaping motherfucking holes in the floor so that the first firefighter into the building when your DIY electrical job shorts the fuck out will hit the compromised plywood, immediately collapse through it, and be hanging fucking headfirst into a basement that looks like a motherfucking hellmouth with the only thing saving him being a deathgrip on the hose line and the guy behind him holding his feet.

EDIT: Fuck it, read my bile.

If it's legal, they would grow it fields. Not houses.

Your top end stuff would still come from greenhouses, though that's miles safer than growops.  It's really hard to control variables outside.  Not that I know anything about this topic, though.

That wasn't sarcastic, they should legalize growing pot.  I just have a lot of hate for the people constructing drug labs because they're usually the most retarded inbred redneck cocksuckers you can find in the area.  Seriously, who in their right mind would booby trap an old derelict house in a town of 20k people?  Who are they in a gang war with, the fucking Royal Canadian Legion?

I'm not in favor of legalizing meth or bath salts, or whatever the fuck our rednecks down in South Georgia decide is a good idea instead of gainful employment or cruising the DQ for fat chicks.

What happens if you actually put bath salts in your bath?

Also, Jimbo, I hope you are writing down all this stuff, and all the other crazy shit you have told us about over the years. There's definitely a book in there asking to be written. I'd buy it if you ever wrote it.

If it's just mephedrone then pretty much the same as pouring a load of cocaine into your bathtub. Fun fact, according to the press over here it's popular street name was 'Meow Meow'. I feel pretty certain this was someone trolling a journalist.

Working title is "you can't make this shit up, tales from the night shift."

 :grin: