f13.net

(https://goonfleet.com/uploads/1264057086/gallery_538_10_124803.png)

Splitting this off for whatever amusing propaganda pics or posts people find.

This will help keep Eve interesting.  Accumulating wealth in a fortress is ultimately pointless, I was amazed when I heard the goons were evacuating Delve, now I'm just in awe.

Ahahahaha, what?!  :uhrr:

Well, during the Bob-Kenzoku phase of the great war the saying was "Delve is for Goons, anime is cartoons."  Not so much any more.

And I just happen to think that ascii art is a classier genre.

From Goonfleet.com

(http://i50.tinypic.com/vdmkau.jpg)

Delve 3, the movie. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoNAorIzB50)

Both those own.

Escape from delve poster was the best. Oh man, that has me rolling.

New desktop here we come!  :grin:

I meant that colossal fuck up that led to losing Delve. I reactivated not so long ago, luckily I was imminently bored to shit and stopped playing.

CCP changed the sov system without giving a manual. Goons didn't have the sov money in the right wallet division. Someone who's job it was to move money was too :effort: to log in over a couple of days. No money in right wallet, sov drops at the end of our prime. Enemies claim sov 10 hours later over half our systems. Goons say "Screw this, we're going home"

The ever eloquent and painfully unconflicted (simple?) Blaster Worm (tldr: we are literally the Nazis):


I don't think he "gets" goons, not that this is news.  I keep considering resubbing to play in "fun dudes" alliance again.

Hydrosan was a total faggot since ever he showed up. No surprise he got his dick chopped off.

Introduction video from our new overlords in Syndicate:

NSFW!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V24pos1K0cM&feature=player_embedded)

The funniest thing about browsing the GF forums is seeing Daruis has the same avatar I made for him at LEAST a year ago, more like a year and a half.

Man, I got some mileage out of that one. And it's STILL funny.

That so needs to be a signature.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/x4oks9.jpg)

That's beyond awesome!

I have no idea what the fuck is going on in this game.  Is that a pineapple robot?

Clockwork pineapple.

Which, if you need a little more context, is Groon's alliance.

Can someone actually provide context on this whole Groon thing? While I usually have a reasonably good understanding of the history and relationships of chars, corps and alliances that one evades me. Probably because I'm in the small minority of folks who are not reading the GS forums...

Not anymore, the corp that most of F13 was in was just kicked out of the alliance for not "getting Goons".  :awesome_for_real:

and thanks for the LOVEU kick.

MY (ex) CEO!

Yeah, so I've heard (http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/27167-eve-war-thread-838.html#post1623341):


I hope you don't mind me being at least somewhat amused by it all  :awesome_for_real:

Ha, that has GOT to be Kadm somewhere.  He's still butthurt over being removed for being a corp thief, awsome.  :awesome_for_real:

Regardless of all this shit, at least I'm not THAT douchebag.

He is referencing me cause I gave him the "u mad?" bit when he got booted and was bitching. Best shortpost I ever made, he went ballistic and sperged for half a page.

Ok, who is who here?

I better get to know this as this will be my new home for the foreseeable future.

Here comes :words:!

Very long ago Remedial was burning out and needed to take a break.  He left a guy named Hoegaarden nominally in charge, along with the rest of the directorate.  Names escape me.  IIRC Cefte was around for that, and El Pinto Grande (an SA Admin, author of the Tank Is Fight books).  This was back when Remedial still at least paid lip service to the idea that Goonfleet was a corp about goon solidarity (laffo) and GF was actively using the corp shares system to do democratic voting among the directorate about certain issues.

Hoegaarden was widely considered to be pretty fucking terrible as a CEO, and gave an historic SotG address in a room with several live parrots who would not shut the fuck up the whole time he was talking on TS.  That's where the *SQUAK* jokes come from.

Even so, Hoegaarden himself remains convinced that he was a bitching radical CEO who led GF to almost victory in the mad scramble for XZH- and Cloud Ring when a random GF pilot accidentally shot the station and realized it was conquerable.  A few other directors agreed with his opinion of himself, most notably EPG.

Eventually Remedial came back, and wanted his personal kingdom restored to him.  Hoe balked bigtime, pissed that he'd done whatever he'd done while Rem was away and now it was all being taken from him.  So he tried to stage a coup using the corp share system.  He actually came pretty close to deposing Rem as in-game CEO I think.  A few more shares might have done it.

But the upshot is that he failed and was exiled by Rem.  Most of the directorate that supported him had their roles stripped and were kicked as well.

Hoe wandered off to lick his wounds and founded a new corp called "The Greater Goon".  His idea was that he exiled voluntarily to prevent philosophic civil war (hence the name, a play on greater good) but he held the true goony goon goon-ness close to heart by refusing to engage in politics or sov warfare and instead just being chillax broheims from planet brosefius.

As a deposed ruler, it was easy for every subsequent CEO of GF to make Hoe and his Groons the Jews to their Reich.  They were the big, bad Other who were somehow to be hated and sneered at even though it was usually about 6-10 dudes at any time who really couldn't give a shit at all about the things GF cared about and were never anything like a threat.  On at least one occasion Rem led GF into an area of 0.0 where Groon happened to have already landed (very likely by accident) causing EPG to develop a really unfortunate case of full-blown, peeking-out-the-blinds paranoia and quit EVE entirely.

Groon finally wound up back in Syndicate as a member of OSS.  Years later that went south (more useless *words* would be required to explain that) and Groon needed to get out quick.  Hoe struck a deal with, I think, Sesfan to let Groon into the GS alliance and they moved to the very tipy-toe, ass end of south east EVE.  Literally on one of those final dead end systems that mark the edges of the universe.

Problem was Groon members still really didn't give a shit about stuff like sov warfare, weren't big fans of general GS bandwagony behavior, and were honestly just nowhere near hardassed enough to cut it in conquerable 0.0.  Participation fell to almost nil, with less than 4 Groons in corp chat at any given time.

Then Sesfan left, and Darius ALLCAPS rose to power.  Even before he was CEO, back in his lobby krew days, he had loved nothing more than trolling and hating on Groon. (A corp, by the way, who's history predated his EVE existence by a hell of a lot.  I doubt he knows more than a couple people past Mittens who were even around back then.)  Somewhere on the Groon forums I think there's still a TS recording of him going off on a hilarious rant about how Groon didn't do anything to earn the space that GS bled for and how they weren't real goons and should be purged.

But like I said, he wound up CEO.  And some time after that, right in the middle of the big malaise after the failed push into Delve, he did a midnight kick of Groon from GS with no warning.  I think he thought he'd get the kind of morale boost that would have come from kicking BTLS.  Instead, most goons were just like "what?" and rho squad and a bunch of other guys arranged to carrier out what Groon assets they could safely since Groon went suddenly gray in the middle of hostile space.

Groon actually landed in NPC Delve for a bit after that.  A bunch of them had actively participated in the failed Delve push (ALLCAPS propaganda notwithstanding) so they knew the area and had some assets.  But, again, they just aren't badasses.  BoB and some random Italian dudes pushed their shit in over and over.

But OSS had since collapsed and NOTR (Groons biggest detractor from back then) had abandoned Syndicate.  So Groons just kinda went back without allies or plans or politics.  Hoe at some point I think bummed ISK from the Adarmada to form an alliance named Clockwork Pineapple that contains LKNR and a bunch of one-man bullshit alt corps.  There they've been ever since, getting rolled by EoS and Cry Havoc and killing random scout alts in newbie ships that tried to run the pipe rather than podjump.

Until GS imploded.  Goons came back to Syndicate, flew in some pickup gangs with Groons wherein both sides realized that literally none of them even knew why they were supposed to hate the other because everyone involved on both sides had long since quit (Hoe "plays" but never logs in.  Adar is supposedly back but has nothing to do with either side of the conflict.  I predate basically everything but am krunk as fuck 24/7 and it's entirely pointless to try to drag me into spaceship politics because I'm incoherent.), Darius clamed down, and now Groon and Goonwaffe are blue again.

If you actually read all of that what you should take away is that I'm an unreliable narrator and I really, really love trolling the shit out of Hoe even on forums he doesn't read.

Okay, that was amazing, more than I expected, and I don't even care if half of it is true. Thank you!

Aww, that sucks.

Maybe you could just offer to kick Himo? Betting money he's the reason darius thinks you're as bad as battlestars

This is now the Groon thread.

Credit goes to Sparky for digging this up. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V24pos1K0cM)

Edit: Free Furnok Dorn.

Goonwaffe's new alliance name is:

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Pro tables.

Wow that sucks, I feel bad for you guys.  Goonwaffe are pretty dumb turning their backs on the few remaining friends they have.  Especially friends who've proved beyond a doubt they're not just in it for the good times.  That's the second time you've been fucked sideways by goons (the first being OSS North).  On the bright side I hear IT is still recruiting.  :grin:

Oh my. :headscratch:

I would literally rather remove one of my testicals!

I will miss giving out skrimish gang links from a Claymore. I apologise to the rifter pilots who will miss out on having 34km points. The joy of having 6 km/s Vigil's will be less often now, though right at the end of Delve I noticed nearly every fleet had at least one Claymore around. I lost my last Claymore in 1-S in the last fight before the IT fleet came into NOL. When the cap and subcap fleet died on the NOL gate, that was the last time I used gang links. Farewell TACKLEWING.

I will miss the wiki, particualy the history and drama section.

I will miss being the only person selling some tech 1 modules within 3 regions. Pro tip to any newbie manufactuers: Sell Shield Resist modules, no one else does.

I will miss the story and the drama. No other group in game has so much of both, so often, and so amusing to read or be a small part of.

I will miss hearing The Mitanni speak on TS, the man is a really good story teller.

I will miss hearing DBRB tell a story on TS in the middle of a fleet fight while someone else is trying to call primaries. And though some Goons will damm me to hell forever for saying it, I will miss his stories too. He keeps the game fun, and that should be more important than anything, but I will miss the fact that it is not.

I will not miss moon kitten. Or his posts. Fuck moon kitten, and his avatar.

I will miss reading Bu Jenkin's news reports, but not the man himself.

I will not miss rape train backwards- seriously, why is the man who lost Goonswarm everything, still here.

I will miss Sigma Squad: They seem to be the last part of the organizaion that used to be known as Goonfleet that is friendly and helpful to newbies. I fear bring friendly and helpful to newbies is an art almost lost to this place.

I will miss being able to post on the SA thread updates on the ongoing story and situation.

I will miss being part of the force that destroyed SirMolle's space-empire and reputation. Fuck SirMolle, and his ego.


I will miss hearing a dog barking on TS and making it impossible to hear orders or give intel. Never stop barking.



Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back gone for breakfast.

Goonswarm has already cost at least one person a testicle.

Mr Clock!

Out of everything else that's happened the past few weeks, this is the only thing that made me go :?, everything else has had me guffawing with the hilarity of the situation.

I've honestly not been in an alliance where the people've made me giggle and laugh as much as goons have, it's going to be a bit sad to leave that aspect of it. But going to IT? Fuck no.

Yeah, this was a fun bunch of people, it'll be hard to find something with as many laughs while playing. Every other group I've flown with have been complete twits.

BTW knock knock knock if someone could let me in to the corp area, I have every plan of sticking around. (Kathleen Hallet)

If that will get the guys back in, then kick me.

Unironiclly I offered to go months ago if that would have helped secure the guys place in the swarm.

I think the answer is obvious: F13 needs to join Groon.

Himo, kicking you/not kicking you will make no difference to the fate of the corp. Darius is not going to say 'well now that Himo is gone I guess you can all come back'. I'm also pretty sure that you didn't cause or precipitate our departure either.

Stop being a victim.

Seriously, we all knew this was going to happen, it was a fun ride (at least the time I was in).  Chalk it up to "goon culture" which for all it's"chillin with brosefs" side has the "scapegoat the other" side.  The lack of an identifiable bad guy means they had to get the lulz from somewhere...  Meh, I still think they are the most fun guys in EvE.

Elaen reporting in F13 forums!

Do we have an private sub forum hidden here somewhere?

I was hoping it wouldn't happen, since I thought we were fairly productive and not sticking out like a sore thumb on the forums either. The only indication I had of issues was really the whole "Vee vs LoveU" spat regarding goonwaffe, and that didn't seem to be all that serious.

They were the most fun guys in EVE that I've flown with, and the last two weeks have been the most hilarious weeks so far, but to be evicted in this fashion for what I believe is some people having sandy vaginas or had an axe to grind from a year back or more, is disappointing. I was hoping for more, but I guess it's not to be.

Next destination?

Is this the part where you join Bat Country and wind up back in AM?

Damn. Moose makes me wish we had rep here. All my 5's anyway..


(no, I'm still quite glad we don't have rep here actually)

hey folks

But that would mean we would be joining the underdogs in the middle of a massive invasion. Didn't we do that like 18 months ago?  :why_so_serious:

 We were kind of hoping CVA would have open arms, or AAA

You guys are getting a _lot_ of love. Take it Arsed is still a member of GS (http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/39309975/m/473006530041?r=814008723041#814008723041):


Backfired for FoH, though:


and

Moosehands that's a hella post.

Huh, I never new Arsed was another forum based group before.  Never heard of that site.

No.

You never heard of Ars Technica?  I don't know why I am shocked by that.

So F13 won't be allowed to join Goonzoku?

Seriously. Goonzoku. That name needs to stick.

That's the current word, yes. Kadma blames Himo. Just saying :)

FoH person calling F13 a shitty forum? Rich.

Sup, our favorite spy.

You know, you could have just asked me to repost that here.  :grin:

Hey now, they can both be shitty!

Is it done yet? Has butan been pushed?

It is some other button, but we may be gone as part of the maintenance vOv

Sorry, don't have the who-is-who figured out just yet :)

I still can't remember everybody's alts in-game and now add to that forum aliases  :uhrr:

Wow, where's Endie during all this?  And will The Mittani ever post again in his "Sins of a Solar Spymaster" column?  I don't even play the damn game, and this is riveting. :inluv:

Eve drama best drama,

~ Aby

Don't sign your posts.

Really, just don't.

Probably still happily playing EvE?  Endie was a Goon before most of us came along and probably will be after most of us have quit.

Well, I mean, I didn't expect him to quit the game or anything, but I will say that if for political reasons or whatever he no longer posts here, I for one will miss him.  He's a good writer.  So's The Mittani.  I hope both of them will continue to post publically.

(PS:  Thanks, Slayerik, for the correction on the post signing thing; I do appreciate it.  Wait, a PS doesn't count as post signing, does it?  :ye_gods:)

I think they'll let the PS slide!


Endie is still moving his 62 characters across the galaxy or something I bet.

We've already had someone sign his post today  :oh_i_see:

Sure as hell took a goddamn long time for some major fuckgoons drama again. Thinking that pre-Goonfleet, it was almost practically a biweekly thing.

Just in case some of you were wondering why the forums went down temporarily today, from coad:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1263752&page=2#55

I have literally no power over that decision, but if you guys are interested you want to talk to "Rusty Seabutter" ingame.

I got promoted yesterday.   IRL, that is.  I've been on forums/jabber/PMs a fair bit in various places to try and help things out for people and all that but I've also been scrabbling around Books 24x7 looking at project management techniques before I get cracking on Thursday.

And Mittens is even more of a narcissist than I am so I can't think of a way offhand to stop him writing that article.

Nice post Moose, I don't care if it's true or not, feel free to post more :)

Edit: sigh - did I just post in the wrong thread? Either I'm tired or I need to close more tabs.

Post was aimed at Moose's Groon history

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Grats Endie  :thumbs_up:

Yay, it's Endie!  Grats on your promotion (and sorry about your alliance).  I do hope you'll continue to post on F13 when and as time allows.  Today I learned what CAOD is ...  :uhrr:

Yes.  Right.

Oh hey I went looking and found the TS recording in case anyone cares (they shouldn't fyi): http://www.nmfree.com/Crappy_Images/Eve/groon1.mp3