f13.net

It has begun.

Now might be a good time to resubscribe.

Thanks for such a wonderful and informative post.

This is onetime that more info isn't required.

If you don't play more info is helpful and Eve is definitely one of those games where there's a lot of entertainment to be had just by watching things.

Well the tl;dr from the WAR thread is as follows:

PL have collapsed leaving a power vacuum in Fountain which IT are busy filling as quickly as possible.

-A-  have spent a lot of money and sleepless nights trying without success to break down the doors in 49-U

With PL's collapse confirmed and SoT either complicit or impotent, Molle has decided to keep the momentum going and has announced a general invasion of Delve to start at 18:00 today.

-A- have relaunched their offensive and SYS-K will inevitably come to play in the south.

Goonswarm allies are busy either evacuating to Jita or losing a war vs Tri and Atlas so we're surrounded and outgunned. The new sov mechanics give the defender a hefty advantage if they choose to take it though.

With the exception of a few broken pots we are generally positive about this situation. There will be a lot of fighting over things that people can clearly understand the relevance of which will be good for morale and thus turnout.

49-U, the graveyard of Empires....  Oh the many weeks of fun that was had trying to take that f-ing system.

PL collapsed?  WTF?  Those guys had their #@$% together much more than GS and co...

Thanks btw!

I've got a Machariel in C6Y, no way in hell I'm giving that bitch up without a fight.

Who is IT again?

That should probably be clarified.

How came? Admittedly i wasn't paying attention to EVE at all in last few months but they seemed to be strong enough back then it feels rather abrupt.

IT is the third iteration of BoB. After hitting a low point in coming up with alliance names they outdid themselves post involuntary dissolution when they came up with the name of Kenzoku. Many suspected that this represented the very nadir of thinking up names. Nobody should ever bet against Molle to outdo himself in hilariously poorly thought out PR though and now the scourge of Eve is represented by a cartoon clown gimmick and unironic references to Juggalo culture.

So, what can some one starting right now do in all of this?

Newbies pretty much get showered with endless free frigates.

Dam, was hoping for hookers

There will be a stripper in the cargo hold of every Rifter!

I can't imagine a hooker encounter in eve would be very exciting.

another Eve recruitment thread? 

Supposedly that free reactivation is good until the end of the month btw.

In all seriousness, for a new player just joining now, how much time is required per day/week to be effective and part of the game?  It always seems interesting, but I don't have catass potential in me anymore.

Also, for those jumping in now, is it best to just stick with the F13 corp for the time being?

If you're just a tackle buddy, one of the vets will set you up and you'll be good to go in a few hours. Then you can pretty much play as you please and are able.


If you want to be anything more substantial, it will require quite a bit more investment.

Yeah the other one isn't even halfway down the page.

The other one, however, mentions "if you join in the next few days". I take it you are still recruiting?

Always!! not during war

At any rate I am one of those people who loves to be part of General Custer's Army with internet spaceships, so I'll be flying in fleets for the duration.

No we are not recruiting.  No this is not a recruitment thread.  We don't recruit in wartime (maybe very long term posters with a lot of posts but security will be tight).

This is a "holy shit bitter vets we're outnumbered many-to-one and we're just maybe going to win get back in on this" thread.

Although to be here it should probably include more info, so...


So many of us thought.  But for several weeks we were the only thing propping up PL and SOT.  PL's strategic-level leadership were jaded or gone, their membership padded with FOTM-chasing pubbies, and their will to fight evaporated.  They didn't defend their R64 moons, they drifted into irrelevance and they sleep-walked into being invaded. Meanwhile, Goons were winning virtually every fleet fight (lol K/D), but PL pets Sons of Tangra were heavily infiltrated by spies and handed three stations to IT Alliance in a week, without which IT would have been utterly stuck.

Then some retarded decisions and game-changing lag in a single fleet-fight broke PL.  When your existence ispredicated upon being the best then as Bob showed in 49-, getting really hammered can break your will overnight.

They helped us out in Delve II, so I'd have kept helping them as long as they wanted, but in the end they didn't want it enough to log in.

Now, we have about six and a half thousand hostiles on one border, five thousand hostiles active on our other border, and probably another eight thousand from the south-east and north-west who will come over to try to kill us any chance they get.  We're going to lose some stations: current problems with lag mean that we'll just not even be able to get into some attacked systems to prevent it.  But I think that four-to-one might - just might - not quite be a big enough bandwagon, if Karttoon turns out to be worthy of his alliance after all.

Welp, to the interested outsider, the Dramatis Personae are:

"Us" - The narrator.  Goonswarm: our dashing heroes, fighting against incredible odds against the tained forces of corruption and RMT-fuelled hostility which surround us on every side.  Think of Errol Flynn crossed with Legolas after who has saved an orphan from certain death.

Pandemic Legion - Until recently, our neighbours to the north.  Small but feared for a long time, they grew wealthy, bloated and homeless, in that order.  They failed to log in in 0.0 to defend their space.  Now they fail to log in in empire, instead.

IT Alliance - Née Band of Brothers, née Kenzoku.  Formerly thought invincible due to their ties to the game's developers, they were beaten and killed twice by Goonswarm and friends.  They are back, twice the size and hungry for a modicum of payback.

Against All Authorities - Former allies of Goonswarm they pulled a Pearl Harbour when their leader received IRL cash payments to attack us.  Faililng to beat us in two seperate attempts, they are the only power to have been on the losing side of every Delve war so far.  Still, they are older, wealthier and blessed with many more supercapitals than us.  They also bring a vast coalition of dependent pets.

Other characters include Atlas, attacking our last remaining allies in the north from one side, and Triumvirate, sent to attack the Northern Coalition from the other direction.  Thus, Goonfleet, (along with smaller forces ZAF and Rebellion) stand alone.

Triumvirate, née Triumvirate, née Triumvirate.






amirite?

I love wars in Eve! It gives me something to read without having to actually play the game.

I am dead serious about this.

You're not the only one.

I really hope this is the end of Goons, never fucking liked them and if they dissolve into something more palatable I may have to consider poking my head in to see whats up.  Please do keep us posted.

(a) you believe too much propaganda, from both sides

(b) you are going to be disappointed if you think that either outcome will be "the end of Goons".

I hope goons win.  They are the underdogs and provide one of the few points of diversity in an otherwise bland imaginary universe.  I hate bandwagoning.  Both IT and -A- are fine examples of it.

The goons are the only thing that makes EVE worth playing.  Without them it would be a collection of poopsocking e-peeners.

Cool, my copy of Eve can continue to rest in steam awaiting calmer days and nothing else to play.

Hey, I pretty much felt the same way as you do ... until i joined them. You can't survive through the shit they have without heart. Or a gimmick.

Anyway, I tried logging into a huge fight tonight and had a black screen the whole time, so I'm not going to blow smoke up you ass but.....Shit is about to get down. Any old player that wants to come back and fight you'll have an endless supply of cruisers on my dime.

Resistance is futile.

Mr Penne can also tell you this from experience iirc.

Yay, another war of attrition. Fuck, I'm glad I've developed a dislike on playing EVE.

You and the Polish Eve politics forum feel exactly the same:


We are quite literally Hitler.

Meanwhile amongst our fellow fascists on the Italian forums:

Evil (GS) will always triumph because good (stainwagon) is dumb.

Yawn.  Goonswarm is a lame dominant superpower of EVE, I've always felt that way and I always will.


As usual you act like a prick and imagine you know what everyone is thinking.  Did you really need to take two cracks at my harmless meaningless opinion?  What propaganda do you imagine I've been reading or watching dude?  I've been very far removed from EVE for a long time.

If you are as far removed as you say, why do you have an opinion at all?

When I played with GS during the second great war I can say they defintiely weren't the "good" guys, but at least they were fun and most of them didn't take the game too seriously.  Their opposition however impressed me as the typical type-A massive raid guild poopsockers who manage to suck the fun out every multiplayer game they are in.  Meh, i'd rather have the goons.

Goonswarm is the Alliance EVE deserves and that's always been the biggest point of comedy with it all.

Hoax, as much as you want to, you can't write goonswarm off that easily.  Remember back in the day when the two of us were like "Man, this is fun, but I want /more/, we should go hook up with Slayerik!"?  This is /more/.

Hell, I'm the fucking CEO and Slayerik became a goon hero almost instantly sharing the suicide ganking tactics we were all using years ago - those two things alone should merit a good ol' college try.

Calm down, son: I think most people would believe that my pretty mild and informative response is a lot less "prick"ish (prickly?) behaviour than your "harmless" line about "I really hope this is the end of Goons, never fucking liked them".  You can't troll like that then get all butthurt if someone says "um, that's not very likely."

And as regards the propaganda line you've bought?  Yeah, I can see that it's been a while, like you say, since you've played.  You're still buying the "omg goons ruin eve for everyone" stuff from 2006/7.  That's fine, but again you don't get a free pass to troll.

eve is gay

naw, they just to need to express themselves. 


They were repressed in their Child Board.

You guys are making EVE sound like ridiculous fun but I'm almost certain I won't last more than a couple of weeks if I tried it.

Just log on and slowly pilot a ship around.  Maybe mine a bit.  It's all great fun. 

I just can't say how much I miss mining.

Never done mining. I have great fun in EVE.


We are all gay.

I have a buddy that's been forcing me to play eve for a while now... and he's just go to the point where he's got a lot of capital ships and is smack in the middle of this current war... He wanted me to come down and help out but I didn't want to have anything to do with it... and I'm glad.

Listening to him over teamspeak talk about it... it sounds EXACTLY the same as setting up a raid in EQ1 or 2. Everyone gets together, there's a raid leader, the leader gets mad because people don't have the correct equipment or they form up with the fleet long... it's a giant cluster fuck for hours until they finally attack (or get attacked) and then there's a giant lag filled battle with opponents you can barely see do to all lag and chaos. Glad I didn't get involved.

I always described EVE as a giant chat room with a beefed up graphical user interface. Except for you pay for it. I hear if you get past the "game is pretty boring" part EVE is really fun.

Yeah but you can sub with in-game currency! So technically, you only have to pay with time.

After a year or more of excellent, lag-free 1500-man fights the last patch kinda messed up the lag thing.  It's now getting better but it still has a way to go before it's good again.

Your friend may be on the invading side, and having to stay logged in for hours til 3am to get into the systems with the fights.  For US TZ goons in particular right now this is the dream: log in at 02.30 Eve Time in 49-, get in fleet, and start killing things most nights.  Our enemies are delivering to our door.

Delve being under attack is great because there are Good Fights(tm) right on your doorstep all the time!

I think I've heard this before.  :awesome_for_real:

The irony is not lost on us, believe me.

For those who don't follow the War thread, this war might have ended with a whimper.  It depends on how energized goons get about losing their space to "whoops lol".

Death by accountancy and Goon's in retreat or "we didn't want to play this game anyway" seems the summary?

As posted on CAOD

"Goons took Delve by checking a box.  Goons Lost delve by forgetting to check a box"