Title: Gaming Mouse Post by: Draegan on July 20, 2009, 04:27:42 PM There are probably threads for this already. Sooorry.
Anyway my mouse is dieing and I need a new one. I don't want to spend a ton of money, but I don't want a cheap one. I'd be comfortable spending upwards of 60 but would prefer in the 30-40 range. It's got to be wireless. Anyone have suggestions with their favorite mouse? I need at least one button for the side (thumb) for my gaming needs as well as software allowing me to program the buttons with key presses. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Samprimary on July 20, 2009, 04:30:17 PM The Logitech G7.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Koyasha on July 20, 2009, 04:34:43 PM I don't like the mouse shape of the G7. Me, I got an MX Revolution and I'm very happy with it overall. I like the shape a lot, feels very comfortable, and good charge (I can go for a good 25-30 hours, and that's using it almost constantly - plus it recharges rather quickly).
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Nija on July 20, 2009, 04:40:49 PM Double your price range since it's going to be something you touch every single day for a few years.
Razer Mamba (http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-mamba/). Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: rattran on July 20, 2009, 04:47:40 PM Yeah, if it HAS to be wireless, get teh Mamba.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: lac on July 20, 2009, 04:59:09 PM I got a logitech g9 and I like it's feel but you've got to be a retard to pay that much for a damn mouse.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Nija on July 20, 2009, 04:59:32 PM I tried out a Sidewinder X8 before I got the Mamba. The X8 is a fantastic mouse, but you cannot remap all of the keys.
The only Mamba complaint I have is that it is very hard to update the firmware on Win7. I figured out how to do it, but it was about 90 minutes worth of trial and error. edit: I guess I'm retarded in that way. I have nice steering wheels in my cars, for the same reason. edit2: The Mamba and X8 will let you switch from wireless to wired in about 10 seconds. If, somehow, your battery goes out. I've had the Mamba since April and I've never came close to running out of juice. It has a charging pedestal that works even when the PC is off, but draws on USB power from your PC. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Hawkbit on July 20, 2009, 05:18:58 PM I don't need much more than my g5. Put all the weights in it so it's heavy as a mofo. Don't go wireless. Nothing worse than losing batteries in the middle of a session.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Draegan on July 20, 2009, 07:06:55 PM I don't think I can justify $130 on a mouse to the girlfriend. But maybe I can sneak it in. I'll have to find one to actually hold. I can't buy a mouse blindly. Do they have them at Bestbuy or any other retail store?
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Nija on July 20, 2009, 07:43:19 PM I really doubt Best Buy would have one period - much less have one on display. I wish I could help you out. It's a truckload of money to spend on the mouse, but it's essentially perfect. It's my first wireless gaming mouse. On 5400 DPI it's almost too fast for my old man reflexes.
Logitech mice are generally great, as are the Bluetrack MS mice. I have the Bluetrack Explorer for use at work. I wouldn't recommend it for gaming or EXTREME PHOTOSHOPPING, but other than that it's good. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: schild on July 20, 2009, 07:52:14 PM Lachesis is a wired Mamba. The scroll wheel and battery LCD are the only notable differences. Totally unnoticeable though, except the wire.
Both the X8/Wired Sidewinder and the Lachesis/Mamba are better than the G7. Edit: Oh, right, those two extra buttons are on the mamba left click. But honestly, I couldn't reach them. Edit 2: Oh, the Lachesis has the same number of buttons, but the Lachesis has 2 more on the right side. I can reach those. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: rattran on July 20, 2009, 08:50:09 PM BestBuy carries the Mamba in store. I saw it on display at the one near me, but I'm quite happy with my corded DeathAdder, the Lachesis design does nothing for me.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Falwell on July 20, 2009, 10:51:06 PM I've owned a G7, G9 and currently a Sidewinder and I can say without a doubt that the Sidewinder is the best of the three.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Mortriden on July 21, 2009, 11:03:10 AM I've owned a G7, G9 and currently a Sidewinder and I can say without a doubt that the Sidewinder is the best of the three. I'll second this. I bought a Sidewinder off the advice from Schild and once I got used to it's different shape it's been awesome. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: vos on July 21, 2009, 12:59:02 PM I thought the Death Adder was the wired Mamba? I use the Death Adder, I like it because it's a similar shape to the old intellimouse 2.0 that I used for years.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Draegan on July 21, 2009, 01:17:51 PM A buddy of mine recommended a Death Adder but that Lachesis looks good too. If it has to be wired, the wire has to be long and 7 feet might do it.
Whats the difference between the Mamba and the Lachesis? I mean other than the precision rating 4000 dpi vs. 5600 dpi (which I don't even know how much difference that makes) and the wire/wireless feature what else is there really? I'm not playing competitive FPS's but looking for a comfortable mouse with buttons for macros etc. Edit to add: I picked up the Lachesis and a G15 keyboard today. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Draegan on July 22, 2009, 05:54:36 AM Slight Update: Not sure if I like the Lachesis. It's an odd shape and my fingers sort of lay flat on it. I'm not sure if it's a matter of getting used to it or not. Hmm.
I think I'll play with it today and maybe return it tomorrow if I still don't like it. I do like the button position for my thumb. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Pennilenko on July 22, 2009, 07:05:52 AM It has a wire, but I :heart: my G9.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Draegan on July 22, 2009, 08:57:42 AM I went with a wire since I bought a G15 Keyboard, I can plug the mouse in the back of it.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: schild on July 22, 2009, 10:24:43 AM You'll get used to it. Took me about a week of gaming before I did, but now I <3 it.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Hoax on July 22, 2009, 06:54:05 PM Razer products are the way to go, I've owned 3 in the last decade or so and they've all been great.
My only issues: -I once on my oldest mouse shoved the scroll wheel through the mouse, it was really the game Gunz's fault because k-style butterfly bullet blocking + shotgun + flying was probably the most demanding shit I've ever done in gaming. -The pads wear down but they give you replacement sets if you don't lose them and also I think you can order more if you need to. -Its sort of annoying that the mouse light never goes out if you sleep in the same room, I usually unplug it or drop something on it (washcloth, shirt, whatever) when a female is over. -My 2nd mouse I eventually damaged the right click button finish and the thin rubber started wearing off, I don't know if I didn't cut my nails or what started the problem but that sort of sucked. So I bought a new one and gave it to my little brother it works fine and really that was after 3-5 years of use so no big deal. -The fucking software can do annoying and wonky things at times. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: ghost on July 22, 2009, 07:22:55 PM Slight Update: Not sure if I like the Lachesis. It's an odd shape and my fingers sort of lay flat on it. I'm not sure if it's a matter of getting used to it or not. Hmm. I think I'll play with it today and maybe return it tomorrow if I still don't like it. I do like the button position for my thumb. I felt the same way. Then I used it for a week or so and can't go back to anything else. It is very responsive, too. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Morfiend on July 22, 2009, 07:31:05 PM I really need to get a new mouse, but I am a "claw grip" mouse holder, and so the Razer ones dont work so good for me. Any one have any other suggestions?
I am currently using a Legitech MX518. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Trippy on July 22, 2009, 07:47:21 PM G5 is same shape.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Draegan on July 23, 2009, 09:43:52 AM Played a little Anno 1404 last night and I think I'm getting used to it. I had to tone down the DPI rating. I was never meant to be a surgeon.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Sky on July 23, 2009, 10:25:36 AM I like my cordless mx 600. It may or may not be great for FPS, but until the whole issue of broken players is fixed, I'm not worried about it.
I never worry about batteries running out in a session, the light on it blinks when they start running low and it takes 30 seconds to go into the kitchen and swap them out. I use rechargeables in it and they last for months. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Morfiend on July 23, 2009, 04:41:20 PM I just had to swing by Best Buy for my work, and ended up playing with a Razer Mamba. That thing actually feels really nice. I might have to grab one, but fuck, $130.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Lucas on July 23, 2009, 05:07:42 PM I absolutely loved this back in the day:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/2376523659_ca209678fe.jpg) But seriously, for the last two and half years I've been using the Razer Copperhead and I really haven't felt the need to get a newer one by the same line (and the Copperhead is now probably cheaper than the spanky new ones, isn't it?). Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Hindenburg on July 23, 2009, 05:23:03 PM I might have to grab one, but fuck, $130. The lachesis is half the price. Any particular reason to avoid the cord? Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Ookii on July 23, 2009, 09:45:06 PM But seriously, for the last two and half years I've been using the Razer Copperhead and I really haven't felt the need to get a newer one by the same line (and the Copperhead is now probably cheaper than the spanky new ones, isn't it?). I have a red one I got 20 bucks off woot, works great! I also got a fatality mouse off woot for 20 bucks, that works great as well. Just wait for a sale! Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Morfiend on July 23, 2009, 11:02:29 PM I might have to grab one, but fuck, $130. The lachesis is half the price. Any particular reason to avoid the cord? Different body design. The Mamba has a more "claw" friendly shape. It looks to be basically the same body shape as the DeathAdder, but with extra buttons. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Logik on July 24, 2009, 12:40:22 AM I have only two problems with Razer mice (specifically the Lachesis). My first is the inability to left/right click while depressing one of the left-side buttons to transmit over ventrilo. This may be an artifact of having that button bound to "windows button 5" but I've never found a way to fix it. The second is that occasionally the mouse doesn't seem to be registered on boot (and I guess the fault for that could be misplaced), and I'm forced to disconnect and reconnect it before it can be used.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: schild on July 24, 2009, 09:08:41 AM Quote The second is that occasionally the mouse doesn't seem to be registered on boot (and I guess the fault for that could be misplaced) This has happened with every USB mouse I've ever owned since Windows 98, including both old and new generation Sidewinders. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Morfiend on July 24, 2009, 10:46:20 AM Quote The second is that occasionally the mouse doesn't seem to be registered on boot (and I guess the fault for that could be misplaced) This has happened with every USB mouse I've ever owned since Windows 98, including both old and new generation Sidewinders. Thats odd, I have never had this problem with a Logitech. Well, maybe not never, but at least with my last 3 computers. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Draegan on July 24, 2009, 02:41:31 PM Mamba vs. Lachesis.
I would of gotten the Mamba but 140 for a mouse is :ye_gods: Lachesis for 80 was streching it. It's feeling better but until I get a real good session in my hand still feels weird on it and it aches from time to time. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Morfiend on July 25, 2009, 01:33:55 PM Here is an example of the different body shape I was talking about:
Lachesis: (http://www.razerzone.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/200x200/f63dc5ec28f3175f8a7f615bd217eb71/6/6/66_6.jpg) Mamba: (http://www.razerzone.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/200x200/f63dc5ec28f3175f8a7f615bd217eb71/1/9/198_6.JPG) *Edit And DeathAdder: (http://www.razerzone.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/200x200/f63dc5ec28f3175f8a7f615bd217eb71/D/A/DA-500x500-03.jpg) Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Rasix on July 25, 2009, 02:22:03 PM I love my DeathAdder. Fits my skeletal fingers perfectly. I feel kind of dumb that I didn't buy a backup during the $25 wootoff. Refurbs scare me, though.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Draegan on July 26, 2009, 03:25:09 PM I prefer the Mamba shape but the Lachesis is growing on me. I played a little Warhammer today for free with it, and it's not bad.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Salamok on July 30, 2009, 08:13:01 PM Just hooked up the mamba, using it in wired mode until it charges fully. I went to BB with the intention of buying a logitech but they did not have the mx1100 and the revolution had rediculous dongle and felt a bit too light. Going to try and use this thing as much as I can in the next week to see if it needs to go back. A good mouse lasts me about 4 years I figure $35 a year is worth a pleasant experience.
They need an OEM whitebox version of this thing, easily shave $25 off the price by ditching the fancy packaging. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: AutomaticZen on July 31, 2009, 07:50:28 AM I just bought the Sidewinder x8. Pretty much covered everything I needed; no charging dock because my old Logitech had one and eventually the gold nubbins wore off and it wouldn't charge. So I needed something with Play-n-charge functionality. And I found it for $55, so much cheaper than the Mamba for me.
Once it gets here, I'll let you guys know how it is. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: schild on July 31, 2009, 09:42:02 AM Where'd you find it for $55? I'd love to replace my Sidewinder on my second computer.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Nija on July 31, 2009, 12:48:41 PM I love my Mamba still. I have the DPI set at absolute max with no acceleration. In most games I have to set the mouse sensitivity to the lowest setting, or near the lowest setting, and barely have to move it around. It definitely takes some getting used to, but the thing is, as far as I can tell, infinitely precise.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: AutomaticZen on July 31, 2009, 04:57:41 PM Where'd you find it for $55? I'd love to replace my Sidewinder on my second computer. Ebay. Bought this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120454025933&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_500wt_1182). Cheapest now is $63.99. But Amazon has it up for $59.99 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FA1SIM/ref=asc_df_B001FA1SIM868939?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=googlecom09c9-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B001FA1SIM). Now I'm trying to decide between the Logitech G11 or the Saitek Eclipse II for a keyboard. Though I hear the Saitek's keys wear down pretty quickly. EDIT: Picked up a G11 for $42. EDIT: Back up to $70.99 on the Sidewinder. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Nija on August 05, 2009, 10:36:31 PM Just hooked up the mamba, using it in wired mode until it charges fully. Well, what do you think? Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: schild on August 05, 2009, 11:06:16 PM Where'd you find it for $55? I'd love to replace my Sidewinder on my second computer. Ebay. Bought this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120454025933&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_500wt_1182). Cheapest now is $63.99. But Amazon has it up for $59.99 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FA1SIM/ref=asc_df_B001FA1SIM868939?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=googlecom09c9-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B001FA1SIM). Now I'm trying to decide between the Logitech G11 or the Saitek Eclipse II for a keyboard. Though I hear the Saitek's keys wear down pretty quickly. EDIT: Picked up a G11 for $42. http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/cus101usenon.html Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: AutomaticZen on August 05, 2009, 11:17:51 PM http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/cus101usenon.html But, but... SUPER-FUTURE GLOW MAKES YOU GAME BETTER! I need to to pick up one of those Customizers though, for when the Logitech inevitably dies. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: schild on August 05, 2009, 11:44:05 PM Model Ms never die. They just need to be brought back to life with a Q-Tip, Isopropyl, and maybe a dishwasher.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Bunk on August 06, 2009, 07:49:50 AM Just thought I'd chime in that I love my Death Adder, and as an added bonus - it's a limited edition! :awesome_for_real:
(http://www.techshout.com/images/razer-deathadder-penny-arcade-expo-mouse.jpg) Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: AutomaticZen on August 06, 2009, 07:57:23 AM Model Ms never die. They just need to be brought back to life with a Q-Tip, Isopropyl, and maybe a dishwasher. Yeah, we're an IBM reseller, so all our office keyboards are the classic IBM Model Ms. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: schild on August 06, 2009, 09:56:45 AM Model Ms never die. They just need to be brought back to life with a Q-Tip, Isopropyl, and maybe a dishwasher. Yeah, we're an IBM reseller, so all our office keyboards are the classic IBM Model Ms.Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: AutomaticZen on August 06, 2009, 11:18:35 AM Model Ms never die. They just need to be brought back to life with a Q-Tip, Isopropyl, and maybe a dishwasher. Yeah, we're an IBM reseller, so all our office keyboards are the classic IBM Model Ms.We have very old IBM Model M keyboards from the early 90's, that are yellow with age, but still work reasonably well. Well, at least I do, as I work inhouse. Most of our engineers or salespeople use Lenovo laptops with a dock. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Salamok on August 06, 2009, 11:34:46 AM Just hooked up the mamba, using it in wired mode until it charges fully. Well, what do you think? My main complaint (other than price) is it doesn't charge when your computer is off (charges via USB only). From a movement standpoint it is snappier than my logitech mxlaser but I need to decrease my double click speed as well, the extremely clicky mouse buttons aren't quite as trigger happy as the logitec. Makes for an odd combo snappy speed and slow clicks, I guess I will adjust over time. I need to get a nice mousing surface as well, my current positioning has the seam of my desk running though the mouse area. I really like being able to adjust the sensitivity on the mouse itself. I'm probably not using half the features this thing has (haven't recorded any macros yet) but having this mouse makes me feel good so in that sense it was worth it I suppose. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Nija on August 07, 2009, 12:19:38 PM My main complaint (other than price) is it doesn't charge when your computer is off (charges via USB only). I think mine is actually charging while off. I know that my Sidewinder X8 wasn't, because it was constantly near-dead, but the Mamba seems to be at full charge all the time. The pedestal lights will dim with the computer off, but it's always at 3 bars when I turn it on. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Prospero on August 07, 2009, 12:54:06 PM It's a function of your computer. My one PC keeps a charge on the USB ports even when it is off, while my other doesn't.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Tale on August 20, 2009, 02:49:39 AM Jump the shark: http://www.getimba.com/
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Lucas on August 20, 2009, 02:57:12 AM http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga/ (http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga/) Already posted by Tale in the above message. Meanwhile "Logitech today announced two new premium mice, the Anywhere Mouse MX and the Performance Mouse MX, that will track on clear glass at least 4 mm thick as well as lacquered desks." http://www.tomshardware.com/news/logitech-mx-darkfield-mouse-glass,8487.html Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Mrbloodworth on August 20, 2009, 07:01:10 AM Razer Naga™ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeXsk5kmcBk) "For when you just don not want to reach out to your keyboard."
get imba! (http://www.getimba.com/) Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: ghost on August 20, 2009, 09:21:58 AM The Naga looks pretty irritating. That's a lot of mouse buttons.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Hayduke on August 20, 2009, 09:36:26 AM I got a handcramp looking at it.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Phire on August 20, 2009, 12:19:33 PM Holy shit :rofl: that is a crazy amount of buttons for a mouse. I would love to see how big that thing is. Also I should be able to make phone calls with it.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Tale on August 20, 2009, 03:13:07 PM It looks like satire. Like an April 1 site.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Hindenburg on August 20, 2009, 03:35:50 PM That's a perfect mouse for mmo's. Doesn't look that big. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIBhd-_2rdo&feature=related)
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: schild on August 20, 2009, 03:38:56 PM I don't understand what this solves.
Also, ugly, ugly, ugly. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Hawkbit on August 20, 2009, 03:56:29 PM Needs more Razer schwag. The hairy guy, I mean.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Tale on August 20, 2009, 06:27:44 PM This is like watching a parody, like a fictional Pure Pwnage gamer mouse that people think is real. Except it's real.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Viin on August 20, 2009, 09:30:39 PM Sweet, only 18 hrs of MMO play and I *might* know how to click one or two of those buttons. At the current rate I'm playing MMOs, that'll only take 18-36 weeks!
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Sky on August 21, 2009, 08:20:04 AM Sweet, only 18 hrs of MMO play and I *might* know how to click one or two of those buttons. At the current rate I'm playing MMOs, that'll only take 18-36 weeks! Or going by the target demographic, learn in one session!Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: jakonovski on August 21, 2009, 08:29:32 AM Being a leftie, I use the only left handed mouse I know of, Logitech MX610. It's pretty good I must say.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Goreschach on August 22, 2009, 05:43:55 AM Trainers? Leveling up? Button setup?
They're adding grind to a mouse. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Strazos on August 22, 2009, 07:18:36 AM Being a leftie, I use the only left handed mouse I know of, Logitech MX610. It's pretty good I must say. Diamondbacks are neutral and don't favor either left or right-handed people. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Sheepherder on August 23, 2009, 02:10:49 AM Sometimes when it's a really big bio break I hold the sock in my right hand and my Logitech LX7 in my left.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Salamok on August 23, 2009, 02:31:17 AM They make a right handed sock?
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Sheepherder on August 23, 2009, 02:36:15 AM Special order.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Mrbloodworth on August 24, 2009, 07:08:48 AM Ran across this at bestbuy.
World of Warcraft MMO Gaming Mouse (http://www.steelseries.com/teaser_heaven/add_to_basket/wow) Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Hindenburg on August 24, 2009, 10:14:11 AM Hey, this is a blog, rite?
Sidewinder X5 arrived. Yes, X5, because I'm cheap. My god, this thing is gigantic, who the fuck has hands this big? Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Goreschach on August 24, 2009, 10:21:04 AM Hey, this is a blog, rite? Sidewinder X5 arrived. Yes, X5, because I'm cheap. My god, this thing is gigantic, who the fuck has hands this big? The people who made the xbox controllers. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: AutomaticZen on August 24, 2009, 11:16:07 AM Hey, this is a blog, rite? Sidewinder X5 arrived. Yes, X5, because I'm cheap. My god, this thing is gigantic, who the fuck has hands this big? I have the X8. It fits perfectly in my genetically-superior African-American basketball-palming hands. The Logitech G11 Keyboard & Microsoft Sidewinder X8 combo is working rather well. The only issue I'm having is on the G11 keyboard's L key. It doesn't register double taps unless I go to town on the keyboard. So if I type "still" normally it comes out as "stil". It's only the one key, for no apparent reason, so I may pry the key up and see if there's a problem there. Otherwise, the X8 is a wonderful mouse and G11 is a shiny keyboard. Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: schild on September 24, 2009, 01:03:30 AM Fry's has the bluetrack (bluetooth wired/wireless) Sidewinder X8 for $49.99 right now, so $50 off in store - fucking AMAZING.
Title: Re: Gaming Mouse Post by: Viin on September 24, 2009, 08:50:40 AM Edit: nvrmnd
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