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My wife and I are picking Vanguard back up. Does anyone here play on Seradon?

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Too late.  I :facepalm: at the title.

Well we got to play something, since I cant play eve for more than 5 minutes without some sort of crash due to completely consumed ram.

WoW is horrid.
AoC has nothing to do beyond level 20ish pretty much.
EQ2 is not something we desire to go back to.
Warhammer......I dont even need to explain.
CoX......played to death...lots of alts all max level didnt like the mission architect enough to continue resubbing.
LOTRO......it wasn't our cup of tea.

Please to be suggesting alternatives.

That has changed.

You dont have one. I am in the same boat. But unlike you I just refuse to pay for shit games. I am playing my consoles and doing some random RPG shit to get my MMO kick. I really wish there was something compelling to play, but I have ether played it to death (WoW) or been forced away by broken mechanics (War, AoC).

I am hoping Champions will be fun for a month or two. Other than that, the MMOG landscape is pretty bleak.

How about not an MMOG?

Look, I don't really like WoW either, but saying it's horrid when you're resubbing to Vanguard actually DOES make you look like an asshole.

If it must be an MMO, Free Realms?  Go grab the free starter cards from Best Buy that Grimwell mentioned.

Dragonica's pretty fun.

Fine......the only thing about WoW that is horrid is the thought of playing it anymore than we have............wait a sec, do you even play wow? Vanguard has way better class mechanics than WoW. Also as far as i am concerned WoW is just as grindy and broken in its own ways. Also.....this is about mmo gaming with my wife. So it is important for me to consider her tastes as well.

Also, I just wanted to know if anyone was playing on Seradon. Jeesus.

Really?

Just get into browser-games like the rest of us, while we wait for something/ANYTHING with any quality to release.

Yes. Just leveled a Tempest to 62. Never ran out of quests, never visited all the zones, never needed to grind. Was dinging all the way. Got quite a nice pace to it.

What server you on?

I tried Vanguard again a few months back when they had some free welcome back event.

I made a goblin something-or-other and actually had fun for the first hour or so.  That was until I reached a quest where I had to read some books and answer multiple choice questions on them in order to advance to the next room.  After trying every possible answer, asking in chat and scouring the forums I eventually found out the the quest was bugged and the only way to proceed was to contact a GM.  Raising a ticket I thought I'd make an alt instead of waiting around.

I then made some human derivative character (called something like a Kojani).  This also went fine at first, but after a few quests I had to talk to some floaty Budhist type fellow in order to teleport off the island.  Lo and behold this was broken as well and according to the forums the only way off was again to contact a GM and wait.

At that point I uninstalled.

Granted my experience is probably a bad/unlucky one even by Vanguard standards, but I'm sure there are better things you could do than play this game.

Wicanna. Mind you, here we have to beg for players for the pvp minigames. Also, my account time ran out.

Are you just trolling?

No.

I agree with Itto on AoC. Have a 39 Demo on Wiccana (I pussed out on the PvP server after getting to 29) and have not run out of quests. One but though, unless you do the group dungeon quests you will have to either grind some mobs or do some grey con quests but it wasn't that many, basically did like 35 to 38 on grey quests. That was all of maybe two days of fairly casual play and soloing exclusively. Unless I missed a quest hub somewhere which is always a possibility. 

You didn't. The only early zone that has enough quests to do the 20-40 stretch by itself is wild lands. If you started in Conall's, you start getting elite quests at 28, and the same happens in Stygia at 32-33, where they want you to hit Black Temple, which will net you at least 3 levels in a single run. Then it's off to the wild lands to do a bit of questing to the 37-38's, at which point you can go back to stygia to do the late 30 quests involving the pyramid, which can be done solo and will also give you at least 2 levels, or just finish the wild lands, which will carry you to 40 with ease. Never had to hit all 3 zones, though.
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Also, completing the pyramid gives you quite a nice cape, and has an unusually complex boss for a dungeon of that level.

Ya at 38 I went and did the Treasury of the Ancients and the quests outside the pyramid. Now at 39 working on the pyramid which I can tell will give me 40 at least. I think my problem might have been that I hopped back and forth between all three zones too much. Probably missed some quests and their chains since once they are grey you don't get the ! anymore. Found a bunch just by talking to random NPC's though.

I fired up AoC recently. I love my level 54 HoX, but due to the way they added quests I am still really stuck. I have done every quest up to about level 60ish, so I can only find red quests. Then I got bored being by myself and uninstalled.

It was much better though. Ran smoother, and seemed to not have that unfinished feeling any more.

So wicanna is the server to be on?

In the next patch they'll allow people with a 50 to create a brand new 50. Would be the time for you, I suppose, recreate the HoX, mail the gold, get all the quests and keep playing.

Wiccana's the server, but you gotta be aware that it is nearly devoid of pvp. If you're cool with that, AoC on.

This.

Plus just download the free Trial.  It's pretty good.  It's fun.  And it's free.  After you're done you have no feeling or need to actually give them money.  Trust me I did this last weekend.

What about Spellborn? 

I don't know if it's THE server, but it is where BC got merged to (and my alt characters resided before then).

Have you considered some of the better f2p games?

Decently done fantasy diku:
Runes of Magic
Perfect World
Atlantica (turn based combat)

I've tried all 3 and they all do the quest grind just fine.

God, I'm glad I'm not this desperate anymore.

I can second Perfect World. It's a grindy KMMO but it's got a bright fun vibe to it. Runes of Magic didn't hook me in but I think it's because I was comparing it too much to WoW. It wasn't a bad game, just didn't hold my interest.

Hell, its not a MMO, but try Drakensang.  Its a single player RPG that has a MMO vibe to it.  It also features player housing, which is in short supply in MMO land. :)

In single-player RPGs, the whole world is my house.  Refer to Morrowind and Oblivion, for starters.

I'm glad I'm not a masochist and enjoy WoW like normal people.

 :awesome_for_real:

Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy one of these (http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-Medium-Professional-Grating-Plane/dp/B001EBOZBE/ref=sr_1_59?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&qid=1242247384&sr=1-59)?

Hehe, I just wanted to know if anyone plays on seradon. Thanks for the PMs for those who don't want to risk exposure. I understand now that admitting to playing Vanguard is like having a scarlet letter on your chest. Its a good game if you have a permanent partner.

I don't mind the game so much, but investing time in a game puttering along on station-pass life support doesn't seem terribly worthwhile. But heck, it's your dime and time.

WoW is lowered expectations polished to a high shine. I'd rather be stabbed in the nuts with a shrimp fork than play that OR Vanguard.

I'm intensely interested in this Sekrit Vangard Sosiety.  Does SVS have a newsletter?

I liked the classes in Vanguard, but hated the world that they were thrust into (not to mention the grind).  Has it improved?

Spy.

I'm glad I'm not a masochist and prefer playing video games to stabbing my nuts with a shrimp fork.

Saying "one would rather" doesn't mean one actually does that thing.

Of course you knew that, but being a WoWtard, you had to go for the obtuse response.

Come on dude.  You asked for it.

Like I said, wilfully obtuse.

Your namesake would be disappointed.

You should've said that he should change his name to takezo.

My namesake would have stabbed you through the internet for insulting his honor.

Nah, he would've stabbed you. You're the one treading on his rep, not me.

Don't you have a lich king to camp?

Yeah, because musashi ttly gave a fuck about people talking trash about him.

He's not in the game yet.

I love the jagoff's who think games like Vanguard are so much more cerebral.  LOL.  Give me a break.  "Wowtard?"  Right.  You're playing chess, and the people playing WoW over there are playing checkers.   :awesome_for_real:

But Kansuke would!

Is it just me or has there been a spike in douchey posts outside of Politics today?

It's not you, it's dusematic.

AOC is better today then at launch but there is still nothing to do at 80.  Enjoy leveling but once you cap out you will looking for another game again

That's not a bad thing.

I just want to say I don't think any one MMO out there is more cerebral than any other. It all comes down to what type of mechanics you enjoy the most.

I'm on board with that.

The mechanics you like, people to game co-operatively with when you want to and a belief the game will continue to provide new experiences and challenges. I don't really see how vanguard can compete on 2 and 3. And other than a couple of well done classes (bloodmage, disciple... damage into heals is just fun) I don't even see the mechanics advances.

There's raiding. As in any other game. Ask all the lev 80 that are still p(l)aying it.

He wasn't online at the time.

I was on Wiccana though my main was on Aquilonia. Have to say the population on Aquilonia was good, the players friendly (give or take the obligatory asshat) and I found more of a game on Aquilonia for those reasons.

I did however leave AoC for Eve as I grew very quickly tired of the sieges and raids, so I'm looking to join an Eve corp - as you well know...  :rimshot:

What the hell happened in here? :ye_gods:

People started acting like yeast infected hollowed out twats for no apparent reason.  Ohhaif13.

Free Realms is really different, and really fun.

Having recently resubbed to the station pass, I gave Vanguard a try again, and they have made some nice improvements.  Like putting the graphics for helms in.  :why_so_serious:
That said, I'm having fun for the moment.  Though, since I'm soloing away in a totally not solo friendly game, I've no idea how long that'll last.

And with regards to the station pass life support comment.  Yeah, may be true, but how long has Planetside, EQ, et all been doing the same, and seemingly doing fairly well in that niche?