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Click on eggs before anyone else clicks on eggs to win!

Definitely the dullest holiday event so far.

It always was.

Don't the eggs other people hide as a rabbit for the achievement give out the achievement stuff as well?  If not, then lame.

Uh, there's an event live? Where is it? I've heard and seen nothing so far.

Go to one of the starter towns (Goldshire, Kharanos, Dolanaar, Razor Hill etc) and run around trying to click the eggs before someone else gets them. After a few hours of clicking you can go lay an egg in Un'goro while dressed as a rabbit. That's pretty much the whole of Noblegarden.

That makes me barfy.

Yeah it really, really sucks. The eggs you lay as a rabbit don't count, nor do the ones you hide in your capitol.  So 3-4 hours of camping 1-3 egg spawns depending on how crowded the area you're at is, hoping to get the random bits you need so you don't have to spend 100 chocolates for the pet.  Woo.   :awesome_for_real:  The wife camped for about 120 chocolates, I stopped after I got 20 eggshells for my 13g.

Oh, and you HAVE to find the wand for bunny-ears in an egg. It doesn't get sold on the chocolate vendor.

You can buy the bouquet of flowers that does this (at least in Brill you can).

The 2 worst parts are getting clothes from the eggs, and having to hop your ass to Plame Fume in Un'Goro with out being griefed.  I probably opened around 220+ eggs: 1 bunny ears, 1 robe, 1 dress, 3 pets, 3 tuxedo pants, no tuxedo shirt =/  I think I give up.

Edit: the clothes quests aren't part of the Noble Gardener achievement at least.

Yeah I didn't see it in Kharanos this morning, but I did in Goldshire later.  I may have just missed it the first time.

The wife didn't get her tux shirt until she looted her own hidden egg in Stormwind.  That one had a shirt in it. Go fig.

The disguise from the rabbit wand/branch thingy works for the 'Hard Boiled' achievement, by the way. Team up, get a wand each, fly to Un'Goro, wand each other, et voila!.

The real worse part is finding a dwarf female and an orc female to put bunny ears on.  :grin:

Because I am a nice person, I wandered around Dalaran on my dwarf warrior, politely clicking off the buff as soon as I got it so people could get that part done. :P

I thought about giving this a shot earlier, and stepped into the starter town in Eversong to see people camping every single spawn point there was for the eggs.  Same in every other town apparently.  Whee. 

Retarded, hair-pullingly frustrating event necessary for a proto-drake, check.

Thanks, that should help a bit.

This is still not as bad as doing the Love Fool stuff. :ye_gods:

Also, the clothes aren't actually needed for the overall Noblegarden achievement.

Agreed, although these events are a lot less fun and interesting than Ahune/Brewfest dude.

Yes, but Brewfest is the pinnacle of world events.

as well irl.

Frustrating? I farmed it in a single night on a crowded server.

Now, getting a flag return with my stupid orphan out, that is going to be frustrating.

You do need the tuxedo for Blushing Bride which is part of the meta, I believe.

Yeah, but you don't need to find it, so you can either buy it (with more @$#^ing chocolate) or just barter it off a buddy, since it doesn't bind.

If you refuse to camp, it's very frustrating.  I don't mind running about in a small area even if the locations are set.  But just sitting there?  No thanks.

Just play peggle-mod while you wait  :awesome_for_real:

I got about 30 of them camping out at a wall in Karnos or whatever that had four spawn points within easy reach.

Still, a horrible holiday.

Got this done, but it was a pretty miserable experience.  Easily my least favorite holiday, but I'm pretty sure I say that about all of them.  I had to obtain 255 chocolates, because the pet and the spring flowers never did pop from an egg for me.

RNG + camping =  fun?  :oh_i_see:

I can't even imagine the horror of trying to do this on a highly populated server.

It sucks.  Like you the RNG hates me and I had to collect 200+ chocolates. (I did get the spring robes on my 200th egg, and the rabbit at about 150.)   I was at the same wall in Kharanos that Kildorn's talking about and it took me 2 1/2 hours this morning.  Glad I'm keeping my 'get up like you've got a job' schedule because by 8:00 there were already 30 level 80s in the zone.   Last night when I did a quick run-through of the other noob zones there were easily 2-3 people per egg spawn.

I've been totally ignoring this event based on what my guildmates are saying about it.  For some reason they are bitching incessantly about having to sit there are click on eggs for hours, but continue to do it.  I guess they want the achievements or something.  Me? I've been leveling my mage alt and having a good time while everyone else is cursing out egg ninjas.

I don't want the achievements.. I want the goddamned protodrake mount at the end of the year. (Which for DKs will be Halloween, how appropriate.)

Stupid event BUT....

Running around to all the egg spawns is still faster that camping, even when the area is busy. Also not all starter towns are created equal, as a horde I went to camp bloodhoof and there were even at peak times half the amount of people that were anywhere else. Completed the whole achievement in 3 hours

So between jousting and Noblegarten - worst major patch ever?

My urge to log in has left me.  Maybe I just need a little break.

I was playing this with my girlfriend the other night - admittedly, she's quite the feminist - and she got pretty worked up over the whole "put bunny ears on women" achievement. After thinking about it a bit, I thought she had a point. What's the perceived benefit in making that achievement gender-exclusive to women? Is it, "Hey, I don't think our female characters get enough grief, especially ones that pick non-traditional races!" I seriously don't know.

Anyway, I posted about it at length on a feminist blog she and I follow - http://community.feministing.com/2009/04/wow-thats-boring-lets-add-sexi.html#more

Don't necessarily believe this is the crowd that'll agree with me here, but I just don't see where there's a benefit to Blizzard in making it women-only. Especially since I and she *aren't* the only ones to take a little umbrage to it.

Your concerns are as overblown as the SWINE FLU PANDEMIC! RUNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit seriously tho, it's a game. My male tauren was kissed while wearing a pink dress by a femaie undead wearing a tux so the other player could get the achievement.  It wasn't a traumatic commentary on society and I didn't feel my gender or role in life were threatened in any manner.

I have a skeptical take on a lot of identity-politics-within-virtual-worlds but I actually do agree that there's something vaguely liine-crossingly stupid about the bunny  ears achievement.

Noblegarden itself, not one of my favorites. The Children's Week stuff is more fun (and challenging). I also agree about the Tournament: I'm an achievement hound but I can really barely be bothered with it, too annoying. And my guild has been very slow to want to move into Ulduar: we have some complex backcurrent tensions unfolding between the highly-geared A-team (about 15 people) and the less-geared and in some cases way less proficient B-team that is making it hard to get a commitment to further progression. When we've had that lag before, it's been pretty easy for the progression-minded to go off and work with an allied guild, but they're focused right now on their own 10-man Ulduar and don't feel ready to do 25-man with us.

Sutro, you comments would be relevant except for one small fact you're forgetting:

There are no girls on the internet.

I read the blog.
Your girlfriend. She's batshit crazy.

After actually reading the blog, I can say definitively that this thread is going places.

I predict Politics; Den at a close 2nd.

I found it odd it had to be females, but not that it was a commentary.  I was expeting more of the  "Human Death Knight" "Gnome Lock" stuff of the last few holidays.

The bunny ears thing is pretty stupid, yes, and definitely falls into the 'sexist' basket. Re: the rest of the blog entry, I'm going to have to say no to the Hodir quest names fitting there though. They're sexual references but not sexist ones.

I hate Bros before Ho Ho Hos more, but the bunny ears thing, especially the stupid-ass HAR HAR MAKE SURE THEY'RE LEVEL 18 LAWL, makes me sigh and roll my eyes too. Blizzard has gotten BETTER, I haven't been stuck with a plate thong this entire expansion (yay!), but they still have lapses of being sexist idiots.

But the thing that pisses me off most is the machine that turns you into a gnome in a santa outfit. Skank clothes on gnome females bugs me more than any other female race.  :ye_gods:

Do they excite you?  :oh_i_see:

Girls wearing bunny ears has been a pop culture staple since...how old is playboy now? My point being that while it may be considered sexist it's no more sexist than lengerie stores only catering to women and not feminine males. All they need to do is make some achievement for the summer festival involving shirtless males in spartan helmets to balance it out.

I say this knowing full well it may take it to the Den, but I think it needs to be said.

My issue with that line of logic is that's it's essentially the same argument as, "Well, there's a Miss Black USA, so there should be a Miss White USA!" and the "Well, black people call each other Ns, so we should be able to as well!" Females are a historical, and many would say continuing, oppressed class; using "balance" logic just doesn't cut it. The dominant class poking fun at itself, "Oh lookie, I have no clothes!", doesn't change the power dynamic.

Maybe in some far-off Beulah Land, when we don't see sexual exploitation in the porn industry, and we're sufficiently temporally removed from all the injustices that have been done to women over time, that'll be an OK thing to do. But we're not at a state, culturally, where we can use equivalency and still be appropriately sensitive to the historical context of those actions.

Y'know, I didn't get the "must be 18" thing until you pointed it out.  I - and everyone I know - were just assuming it was to prevent people from making L1 alts and running them to cities like they've been doing for the last few seasonal achievements.   Shows how much I pay attention to sexual exploitation of videogame characters.

The sad thing is that if the chap bothered to email the contents of that blog and attach to it a catchy title like, oh, I don't know, MYSOGINY IN WOW, odds are quite good most gaming sites would link to it.

Also, rule 16.

It was that coupled with the RP server tradition (which I hate) of converting levels into age.

It irked me a little for the reasons sutro mentioned, but then I was shaking my bunny-maker at everyone when I wasn't actively hunting for the achievement.  There was this one afk NE guy near my egg spot with white hair which just went so well with the ears...  It really should have been a race/class combo, anyone of the given race, or a guy and gal of each.

On the mechanics side my biggest complaint was the crappy drop rate coupled with incredibly expensive chocolate costs.  And concentrating everyone into a tiny area to do it?  Dumb idea.  Most of the achievements themselves I had fun with.  It just required about 250 eggs to do.  Ugh.

The most annoying part of the bunny ears for me was two-fold - five minute cooldown + your application of bunny ears doesn't overwrite the previous one.  I ended up blowing the cooldown twice because I didn't know about that particular mechanic, which frustrated me quite a bit, as the number of female orcs is rather small for some reason.

To solve it, I asked my daughter to log in her hunter.  Tada!

I also didn't catch the level 18 reference til it was pointed out above.  As has been said, I thought it was a level restriction to prevent people from creating level 1 chars to assist others in getting the achievement.

A level 18 restriction isn't gonna do a whole lot when you can just as easily make a female DK of the desired race and take them to a major city without much hassle/work.   :grin:

I'm not gonna try and keep this going for I feel I'd be fighting a losing battle in any case. I will say having to 'polish hodir's helm' everyday was more offensive to me than the bunny ears simply because it had much more sexual connotations to it.

Children's week is soon, anyone know if there are new northrend quests for it?

It took less time to find an actual female of the minority race race than to do the 2-3 hours of DK quests. ;)  (We tried it with a dwarf and a Tauren, the two rarest on my server.)

I'm hoping they remove the pvp achievement from it, at the very least, unless of course it's opened up to "someone in your group/raid" performs one of the actions.  Trying to return a WSG flag is nearly impossible under the best circumstances, not to mention cap a flag in EotS, although I think the other two are at least doable.

I've only run through those quests twice, but the second time through I'm pretty sure it only took an hour or so to get to the part where you deliver the letter to SW/Org, could be even faster if the whole battle at Light's Hope event didn't take so long.

I got all the rare items from eggs you do not have to buy anything for the title. You can buy everything needed with chocolate.

The whole levels = "Seasons" = Years old thing, yea I've always hated that too. Especially since that assumes all races use the same human time scale, which is obviously not true.

If you tore through it in an hour I'm very impressed.  The interrogation bit and the Dragonflight take me about a half an hour together, then you've got the battle and Patchwerk as well.  There's 46 quests in total, with the only optional one being the duel quest to get your pvp trinket. I haven't tried a speed run, but I know it took me about 2 1/2 hours to get through on my 3rd DK, knowing all the ins and outs.

Same. I also just looked at it through the eyes of "no rolling up stupid alts" to get things done.

The whole event is dumb, not just the bunny ears. I also don't think it's sexist, but for a game where gender doesn't put restrictions on stats, clothes, abilities, or anything else...

I'd say just get over it.

What about raising his spear or blowing his horn?

Oh please, give me a break.  Females are not now, and have not been oppressed in the United States for a long time.  Women working in the porn industry are not forced to.  They are adult women making choices.  (Probably bad choices but there's no shortage of people making those).

Complaining about bunny ears on female characters in WoW - most of whom are played by men - is ridiculous.  As ridiculous as complaining about "gender issues" regarding the Hodir quests.

Sexual references != sexism

Can we please not equate popular culture references about Playboy with real oppression?  What is real oppression, you ask?  Women being buried up to their waists in the ground and then being stoned to death for speaking to a male she is not related to.  That is real oppression. 

How many posts are up on feministing.com about that?  I counted ZERO.




Q.  How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?









A.  That's not funny!

Just more marital dailies....

I don't generally read feministing, but I would be surprised if they never post about oppression outside the US, as there are plenty of feminist blogs that I do read that do indeed discuss the oppression of women in the world as you define it. However, that does not mean the US, where most of the feminists I read live, is some sort of fucking equality paradise.

"At least I'm not being stoned for being raped" does not make "I am paid less and more likely to be passed over for a promotion in this male-dominated industry I work in" more acceptable.

Yes, by all means, let's play the degree game. Getting punched in the nuts is no big deal, because in some places, they punch you in the nuts twice.

EDIT: Also its not like feminist outrage is some kind of limited resource that we have to scrimp and save to use on just the most important causes. This isn't a situation like, Mayor, the hotel is on fire and there is a cat in a tree, but we only have one firetruck? WHO DO WE SAVE?

I was about to post about how eager i was to see someone call Xanthippe a male-appeasing anti-feminist. Lo and behold it happened before I could even reply. Roofles.

I missed anyone saying that.

Really, women are paid less and more likely to be passed over for a promotion? 

I'd believe that if this was 20 years ago.  Today?  Sorry, no.

Women who stay at home after having children or otherwise take time off of a career are surely paid less and likely passed over for a promotion, but at a greater rate than a guy doing the same would be?  Highly doubtful.

If anything, women are now a protected class.  When are we going to do something about the terrible disparity in numbers of college graduates?  Women both attend and graduate college at a high rate than men.  Boys drop out of high school at a greater rate than do girls.  Girls have almost caught up to boys in math scores, yet boys lag far behind on language scores.

Women are not oppressed in the USA in 2009. 

Neither is putting bunny ears on a make belief pixel girl a tool of male oppression.

Cracker what?! All hail masculinism.

Hey Xanthippe, I disagree with what you said.

That'd be because you'd do anything to keep your girlfriend, dear.

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I really don't want to get into a big ol' feminist fight with you, because this is not the place to really get into it, but yes, here in the USA in 2009, women are still oppressed. Rape victims are still generally considered to be lying tramps asking for it. Women are still uniformly objectified and considered the sex class. They are not trusted to make their own goddamn medical decisions because it will hurt their poor lady brains. And yes, they absolutely still get fucked over in pay and promotions in male-dominated fields (hi, remember the Supreme Court ruling a few years ago that EXTRA fucked women over as far as even suing for equal pay went?), and female dominated fields are simply not valued as highly. And I'm sorry, my own experience in my male-dominated work place DEFINITELY contradicts this happy fairy tale of women being totally equal with men in the eyes of Americans.

I'm not saying we're not much better off than we were in the 1920's or something, but to insist women are a protected class with out a care in the world is sticking your head in the sand.

And Itto, shut the fuck up. It's entirely possible for a dude to, you know, consider sexism a bad thing that still exists, girlfriend or no.

I'm with Itto; every act is a selfish act. The only reason a guy would get all fired up in defense of feminism is to impress a girl.

Ah, just like how every white civil rights protester in the '60s just wanted to be able to bang black people, and everyone speaking out in favor of civil unions must actually be gay, right?

edit: After this gets moved I'm going to have posted in a Politics thread. Doh.

Guilt is a powerful thing.

Actually, thanks. I appreciate those comments.

Saying that a man's only out to get laid if he thinks about things from a female's perspective just proves every point I'm trying to make.

Hey man, those gay people should be happy we don't let them get married, at least we're not throwing them in prison or killing them like in other countries!

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Doubt anyone is retarded enough to think that it will ever stop existing. We do work towards minimizing it and making it possible for the offended to make the offender pay, and there are tools available for that purpose.

Also:
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To insist that women have special problems that create oppression in 2009 is silly.  Shall I complain about the fact that women dominate education in this country, and that elementary school education has become completely feminized?  How is it that this doesn't oppress men?

If people want to insist on victim mentalities and oppression, then by god, the facts won't get in their way.  But you're right, this isn't the place.

Women do not still suffer from sexism? That's so farcical it doesn't even deserve an answer. I can understand the argument that boyish fun that's sexist shouldn't be taken seriously, but to honestly deny that sexism exists in our society is simply ludicrous.

As to this kind of thing, if you wonder why women are underrepresented in video games. It's stuff like this. And it's not the women who are getting bent and activisty about it, it's the others that roll their eyes and dismiss the entire genre as dominated by man-childs.

We can have gender equity problems on both sides.  One doesn't invalidate the other, especially when looking at different age brackets.

I'll end my participation on the argument in this thread by saying: 28 tenued or tenure track faculty.  Two are women.  One without a Ph.D. as her field is Chemical Education and has been here 50 years.  The other was hired three years ago.  Of the technical/scientific support staff, I am the only female.  Of the business staff we've had two males, one whom left to join his mentor after she went elsewhere.

Well, yes it does. Namely, the answer is that women remain a social minority in every country on earth and that our habits as human beings assure that you are about as likely to ever fully eradicate sexism as you are likely to fully eradicate racism.

in effect, not at all.

So this event is over tomorrow. If yall are done whining about oppression in a gaming forum now, I'd like to point out the following things about this event.

1 - This was worse than the valentine's day thing. I said it wasn't originally, but I was wrong. It brings all the fun of kill stealing, loot grabbing, and spawn camping into one frankenevent that shouldn't be.

2 - Massive amounts of random drops in events suck ass.

3 - Finding x race with y criteria just means we sit in Dalaran waiting for them to ride by, which is boring, or we get one of our buddies to grab a low lvl alt and port it to Dalaran, which defeats the purpose.

4 - Seriously? Spawn camping? WTF were you expecting with thousands of players needing hundreds of drops and only 10 spawn points in a town? Fuck you Blizzard.

I boycotted this one. Every time they roll something out recently it feels more and more like they're off their game, maybe permanently.

It was definitely the C team's work. As is Argent Tournament. Game really does feel like it's in a holding pattern now, which makes perfectly good economic sense from their standpoint, particularly given that no one has even the faintest idea how to launch a competitive product.

I could easily count at least 25 egg spawns in Brill.

and during off peak hours, i was managing to average about 1 egg every 10 seconds just running a loop around town, and that was with about 15 people still there getting eggs at the same time.

Fine, 25. When you run the math it still sucks. Let's assume 3000 people per server give a damn about this, and they need 250 eggs a pop to get all their shit. That's 750,000 total eggs needed for those folks. Now we have 8 zones with 25 spawns a piece, that's 200 spawns. Assume they spawn every 2 minutes. That's 6000 total eggs to be picked up per hour. You would need 125 hours or 5 days and ~5 hours of pure nonstop gathering to satisfy everyone at that rate.

Some will say, hey it's less than a week so that's ok. Others will say WTF do we have to spawncamp shit all the livelong day to get things done?

Have you considered that the eggs might have had dynamic respawn timers, like the dynamic mob respawns?

Yes, he also forgot that most players don't have eidetic memory and that each egg will not have been activated immediately upon spawning if their location is sufficiently remote or the players involved sufficiently proactive to their own detriment.  Even with a half minute respawn a single person camping a single egg will need ~62.5 motionless minutes of hyper-alertness for something to click on to completion.  That's just fucking insane for a game in 2009, not that it's particularly onerous, per se, but it's just so fucking grindcore to camp a motherfucking egg object in a starting zone for an hour, and that's assuming that the 2 min. figure is not entirely accurate.

I had a spot with three eggs in reach without moving and a couple more nearby that were not camped half the time.  I was not done after two hours because of crappy drop rates for the special items like the dress, or the expense of things like the bunny, which never dropped for my main after 250+ chocolates gathered.  Of course my alt got two when I was just trying to get her a set of bunny ears, but BoP, so they were useless.

Its hard to say what the egg spawn timers were like, but when I did it the first night I was between two egg spawns that spawned anywhere from instantly after looting to maybe a minute tops. The rate of spawning was very variable, sometimes one of them would spawn 3 or 4 times quickly before the other one repopped, then later it would switch, etc.

From what i could gather, the eggs had a fixed NUMBER of eggs in a zone that had to be spawned at any given time.

so for example, if there were 25 egg locations in Brill, at any given time, there HAD to be 5 up.

This meant, that as soon as you looted one, another one would spawn instantly in any of the free locations.

So if the area was camped, and ALL spots were taken, and every egg was looted as soon as it spawned, there would be something like 5 eggs per second spawning constantly.

I guarantee you, there was never a time in Brill, even when it was completely camped, that someone, somewhere was not looting an egg.

Heck, im pretty sure my estimate of 25 eggs spawns in brill was prob pretty low, i mean, off the top of my head, there were 13 places around the Inn building alone, just hugging the inn walls, where eggs could spawn.  Might have been closer to 50, but i would have to go back to Brill and count every place i saw an egg spawn.

Also, some people just SUCKED at spotting eggs.  I easily counted 3 or 4 spots in brill that at least a half dozen people that were there with me just never picked up on.  They would just zoom right past the eggs, constantly.  (Such as the eggs that spawned on top of the two Lamp Posts)

Certainly.  My spot was one of them because it was under a bridge in Dolanaar.

Oh man, tell me about it. I was doing laps in Falcon Wing square on my BElf, I started to feel bad for some of these people after awhile. After I was done with my chocolates etc, I gave a egg finding tour of the town.  :-)

Ha! the lamposts and well in brill were always up. Thing is though brill was actually the most populated of the starter towns, really should have gone to thunderbluff but I, like many others were too lazy.

Still, got all the noblegarden achievements done in three hours so, not as horrible as advertised.

Three hours of mind numbing and pointless camping/clicking in a lowbie village + a retarded run to Un'goro + finding people to put ears on, all for achievements and a flying mount I could care less about is decidedly more than horrible enough to keep me away from Blizzard's evil "holiday" treadmill.   :grin:

What isn't mentioned is 2.5 hours of that time was looking for a female orc.  :drillf:

strangely enough, i got all my female horde toon requirements done before i even got out of Brill.  I just randomly asked in chat every 20 eggs or so "anyone here a female X" and usually got a hit within seconds.

And the Ungoro run was easy, once you figured out you could just go down on a flightpath with a friend and a branch and zap each other into rabbits.

There was a lineup to tag our servers apparently only female orc in Dalaran.

Thunderbluff was terrible.  The eggs were spread out and it didn't have a lot of interesting hiding places like elsewhere.  Razor Hill wasn't much better.  I think Falconwing was the best of the Horde areas.

You mean Bloodhoof Village. Did you check between the stairs? Or on top of the meat smoker? or in the boats behind the tent? We saw a lot of people miss those eggs.

Couldn't remember the name and Thunderbluff is a bull's charge away.

I found a few of those spots.  But they were still so spread out and I was only there to get my bunny some action that I didn't invest a lot of time.  They being spread over an area at least three times the size of anywhere else was my point though.

I did all of my early egg hunting in Terokkar.  There was literally nobody there, so I just flew around between trees and picked up eggs at leisure.  Later on in the event when I needed eggs for non-flying alts, things had calmed down enough in the starter towns that people had stopped spawn camping, so I just trotted circles around the towns and picked eggs.  No yelling or crying, just the laid-back egg hunting that the holiday SHOULD have been, if Blizzard had been wise enough to put out twice as many towns with eggs.  There are plenty of level 20-ish towns out in the world that would've been great egg sites and would've taken off lots of the crowding pressure.

wtf, there were eggs in Terrokar?

I thought it was just the starter towns....

Yeah, most people didn't know that eggs were around Shattrath as well as the starter towns.  Even when I went around telling people, some of them didn't believe me, thinking I was trying to trick them into leaving their egg camp.

I tried going there, but at 48 my Druid was too low level.  It was easier to compete with other players than to get one shot by mobs.

I read Sutro's blog post, and some of the following comments. I'm not going to register to post there but this comment was golden:

"Historically Succubi and Incubi are both rapists"

Yeah? Historically? Nutter alert.

I'm with Lantyssa - Falconwing Square for Horde was the place to go.  Kept doing loops of that place and could get 20 eggs in 5 minutes (for daily). It was better on the second day of the event when fewer people turned up and those people who were camping were definitely doing it wrong.  I can understand why people found it tedious but tbh, after a while, I found it strangely addictive.

The Un'goro trip I decided to be a little more adventurous about. I got turned into the rabbit by an egg, hearthed back to Dalaran and took the portal to the Caverns of Time then hopped all the way to the Hot Springs. Took 20 minutes or so and yeah, would have been easier and quicker not to do so but I wanted to see how possible it was.

I got all the way to the trail leading down to Un'goro as a bunny, and some shitty priest came by and took a swing at me, which knocked the bunny off.  So I had to follow her and kill her until she graveyard ressed (3 times).  Then on my way back down to the hot springs, I ran into a horde rabbit hopping along.  My good will having been spent, I killed the horde - and then a few more at the hot springs.  Ended up doing it the easy way after all.