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Soooooowweeeeeeeeet.

Need actually gameplay footage.

I just want to say that this was announced, screenshots and video shown, like more than a year ago. >_<

And I posted about it back then.

MAG: Massive Action Game is the tentative name for an upcoming MMO shooter exclusively for the PlayStation 3[2] in development by Zipper Interactive. The game was announced at Sony's E3 2008 press conference, and will be released in Q3 2009.

Newb. (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=15997.0)

Nothing I have seen indicates that it's an MMO.  It's souped up Battlefield 2.

There is character development?

When you first start to play MAG you create your MAG account. There are no fees to play the game beside the cost of the actual game on the disc. There is no MMORPG tax. You must join one of the three armies and customize your armor and weapons. Fighting in battles will earn you experience points that you can use to get better equipment, skills and eventually go up in rank. When you go up in rank in MAG there are new benefits and responsibilities. You can be promoted to command a squad, a platoon and a company by moving up the chain of command. When a superior officer gives you an order there is nothing forcing you to do it but if you do obey orders you will be rewarded with more XP. If you make a key contribution to the battle you will be even rewarded with more XP. Everyone has free will but if you don't follow orders you are not going to advance your military career in the MAG.

 

You can customize your face, outfit (from the selection that matches your army), and game voice. There is no soldier class system but you can customize your load out and save three different load outs to choose from in each battle.


There is a themed interface to match your army, in game messages, friends online status. There is pretty much all you need for "clan support" but it is not called "clan support" because your butt is property of your army not some clan.

Threads merged. Jesus, how do you double-post one of your own items?

Ok, so it's a souped up Battlefield 2142.

Still don't think that makes it an MMO.

Lack of world persistance other than "levels" and limited number of players in a given combat I think are the indicators here that it's not an MMO, and is, instead, Battlefield XXXX, CoD 15, etc.

I'd like to know more about this 256 player thing.

If that means 256 players per instance that has nothing to do with any larger meta-game, then souped up BF2142 it is.

If it's 256 players per single battle that has some kind of impact on a larger campaign, I'd call it an MMO.

Does anyone read the stuff i post?!?!?  :cry:

All game modes, except Suppression, contribute to the "Shadow War"

The "Shadow War" seems to be a fancy way of saying "the faction that is doing the best in a particular game mode gets some bonuses when playing in that mode".

Lack of world persistance other than "levels" and limited number of players in a given combat I think are the indicators here that it's not an MMO, and is, instead, Battlefield XXXX, CoD 15, etc.

edit:  Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating.  I have a fair amount of respect for Zipper and I think MAG will turn out fairly good.  It's just not an MMO.

Earning experience for obeying orders. An awesome, abusable mechanic.

MMOWESOME!

Instancing is making MMOGs more like FPSes too. Has been since Guild Wars started fucking things up.  :grin:

I've never claimed Guild Wars was an MMO either though.  Guild Wars is Diablo with a 3d matchmaking lobby and shittier loot, but better pvp,

but this is a derail.

I tend to agree. But I also can see games continuing to blur the line between instancing and persistant world. I think the definition itself could become irrelevant, or at least not useful as a descriptor.

Earning experience for obeying orders. An awesome, abusable mechanic.

There's a difference between blurring the line, and the world being open to any number of players.  Guild wars is effectively an 8 person game, 16 in pvp, where you can interact with other people in hubs, but not actually in game where it matters, which makes the hubs basically battle.net with stores.  I don't really consider that an open world, but it's more open than MAG is going to be. 

MAG almost certainly won't have an open world of any sort except a text based matchmaking lobby.  If it goes down any other way, I'll be very happily surprised.  If there's a meta game sitting on top of it, so be it, but I seriously doubt there'll be any way to really organize the metagame in MAG, given how large the games are.  This probably isn't keep capturing like in WAR.  There's a large lack of information on MAG for pretty much anything except game size.  Find out more around E3 I guess.

There's a difference between blurring the line, and the world being open to any number of players.  Guild wars is effectively an 8 person game, 16 in pvp, where you can interact with other people in hubs, but not actually in game where it matters, which makes the hubs basically battle.net with stores.  I don't really consider that an open world, but it's more open than MAG is going to be. 

I've argued that Everquest (and DAOC, and WoW, etc...) are 6 or 5 person group games with a persistant world serving as the hub. WoW practically codified it with 5 man instances.

Seeing the captial cities instanced in Wrath tickled my funny bone.

Soooooowweeeeeeeeet.

Need actually gameplay footage.

You guys are missing the most important thing about this game. It's not whether it's a MMO* or not, it's whether it will have keyboard/mouse support. If the answer is no, the whole thing is fucking fail. It doesn't matter how great the rest of the game is, playing a shooter with a controller is for tards. I realize using a mouse and keyboard doesn't let you slouch back on your couch with a bowl of chips after you've just smoked a bowl, but... anyway. There is not enough scorn in the world to describe shooters on consoles, or the people who think that they're even remotely equivalent to playing them with a mouse and keyboard.

You guys are missing the most important thing about this game. It's not whether it's a MMO* or not, it's whether it will have keyboard/mouse support. If the answer is no, the whole thing is fucking fail. It doesn't matter how great the rest of the game is, playing a shooter with a controller is for tards. I realize using a mouse and keyboard doesn't let you slouch back on your couch with a bowl of chips after you've just smoked a bowl, but... anyway. There is not enough scorn in the world to describe shooters on consoles, or the people who think that they're even remotely equivalent to playing them with a mouse and keyboard.

You guys are missing the most important thing about this game. It's not whether it's a MMO* or not, it's whether it will have keyboard/mouse support. If the answer is no, the whole thing is fucking fail. It doesn't matter how great the rest of the game is, playing a shooter with a controller is for tards. I realize using a mouse and keyboard doesn't let you slouch back on your couch with a bowl of chips after you've just smoked a bowl, but... anyway. There is not enough scorn in the world to describe shooters on consoles, or the people who think that they're even remotely equivalent to playing them with a mouse and keyboard.

I hate playing FPS's with a controller, but i prefer a controller to my splitfish.

There's a second delay between moving the mouse and the reticle moving on the screen, which gives me no end of frustration...

apart from that its an awesome idea.

Delay is unacceptable. That is a dealbreaker. But I can't imagine a wired mouse to have delay.

length of cable.

That shouldn't matter at all. Unless it's like a 100 foot cable. Which is very unlikely.

Persistent is overrated. If the only thing mmoish about a game is the ability to crowd around hubs, I would be extremely happy. I haven't seen a non retarded persistent world pvp game, and I doubt I will see someone make one in the next 10 years. So bring on the Guild Wars.

I looked. it does not work with a PC.

There's nothing particularly special about the gameplay. It's not particularly breath taking or action-packed. The graphics aren't particularly good, nor do the weapons or locations stand out particularly well. As HaemishM said, we've been seeing that kinda stuff in one or more forms for years now.