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... and you could disintegrate someone from space.

(http://www.darniaq.com/Images/real-genius-laser.jpg)

Or, well, maybe just generate some power anyway (http://www.scribd.com/doc/8736849/Space-Solar-Power-SSP-A-Solution-for-Energy-Independence-Climate-Change)

Normally, I relegate lasers from space to Larry Niven novels. But this showed up on Change.gov (http://change.gov/open_government/entry/space_solar_power_ssp_a_solution_for_energy_independence_climate_change/), and is currently garnering much discussion (and was picked up by Slashdot too (http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08%2F12%2F20%2F219209&from=rss)).

That this is actually getting serious consideration from our next President shows some serious geek cred. I like it.

Edit: wrong link was wrong

First link going to the wrong place.

I blame aliens. From space.

If they can get wireless power transmission to be viable at all, it pretty much solves tangled wires, electric power generation, and personal transportation problems all at once. I totally thought of it first, though.

This has been semi-viable for a long time. The limiting factor is, and always has been, cost per pound to throw something into space.

To be fair the authors do acknowledge that:


However their "solutions" to this are, frankly, laughable:

1) and 4) in particular gave me a chuckle.

The space elevator people are quite serious, and closer than you'd think.

Guy I work with sat next to one of the engineers working the Space Elevator stuff, and spent most of a dinner listening to him talk. Apparently they're down to two major roadblocks -- first is the length of nano-tubes they can generate. They need to grow them in foot long lengths, and they're only up to 4 inches or so. (However, five years ago, they could only grow them in millimeter lengths). The second -- and to this guy's mind, the most problematic -- is that there's a time during construction in which the elevator ribbon is too fragile to handle a micro-meterorite strike, but big enough to make it really damn likely it'll get hit.

So there's about an 8 month period in construction where, at the moment, there's a high liklihood that the ribbon will take a strike, and it won't be big enough to hold together for the next crawler up (each crawler repairs the ribbon as it climbs). There's some stuff with power generation and transmission, and a lot of stuff about security, but they've only got the two major engineering hurdles.

Oddly enough, that's only a problem for the first elevator. After you build one, the others are easier -- you ship the complete ribbon up the first elevator and just lower it down to the base station.

In any case, it'd lower cost to LEO to somewhere between 10 and 100 bucks a pound.

Jesus that sounds like something out of a sci-fi novel to me. I must be getting old ffs  :uhrr:

So why the nanotubes? Is that just because of the tensile strength or is it something to do with superconductivity?

Tensile strength combined with flexability and corrosion/oxidation resistance.

I remember doing some research on this several years ago for a paper while in university. Aside from the launch/lift problem, the other problem is the actual wireless power transmission. There's massive efficiency losses in converting EM radiation into electricity; the best you can do is microwaves, in the 80% range at the moment.

And with microwaves, you need to build a gigantic phased-array microwave antenna in space, on the order of kilometers on a side. We don't have the materials science necessary to build one large enough for serious usage that won't tear itself apart. And then you need a similarly-sized receiving antenna on the ground. Although I suppose we don't really need Utah anyway.

Still, it's a decent idea and we should be funding more basic and applied research at the federal level anyway.

That reminded me of this (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=12530.msg422811#msg422811) which then reminded me of this (http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-12/uoc--nbs120707.php).

This is one of those areas of sci-fi I actually think I'll see in my lifetime. Granted, I should have considered the Internet "the future", but since I doubt we'll have ftl travel nor particle transportation, I'm hanging my hopes on Space Elevators.

Tell your friend's engineering buddy to get crackin'!

It's nearly 2009. Where's my goddamned silver suit and flying car?!  :mob:

Hay, is this that one reactor type from sim city that would occasionally start slicing your city in half?  :drill:

Meh, so we slice Utah in half occasionally. It's totally worth it.

Eh? The Microwave power plant?

The beam from space. yes.  :grin: