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So I just saw the trailer (http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/xmen-origins-wolverine/trailer).  Now, I'm by no means an expert on the X-men, or Wolverine, but since when was he born with the Adamantium claws?  As far as I knew they were part of the Weapon X package.  Has Marvel really changed his origin story that much since the last time I checked?(which was 10-15 years ago, admittedly)

They revealed quite a while back, when Magneto ripped the adamantium out of him, that he had bone claws that had been coated with adamantium. 

Wolverine #75, part of the Fatal Attractions storyline.  Years later they went into a bit more detail on his background in Wolverine:  Origin.

Was that Emma Frost towards the end?

Wow, that trailer reminds me just how much I hate Wolverine.  Overmarketed, almost always badly written, stupid.  I haven't liked him since that X-Man Saturday morning cartoon from the early 90s. 

didn't see deadpool, but gambit...hmmm..

Um.

Hmmm.

It'll probably do well at the box office.

That looks even worse than X-Men 3.

What's interesting is the thread in the Movie sub-forum about the trailer has people ooh-ing and ah-ing.

I imagine it'll do ok as a generic action flick with a character that at least some portion of the main stream would be vaguely familiar with. 

I can only hope the scene of Reynolds/Deadpool was some sort of flashback prior to him being disfigured, and donning the costume.  And Gambit?   :awesome_for_real:

Deadpool is there, for a second or two swinging two swords. You won't recognize him though, he has no mask and a sleeveless shirt, cause Ryan is teh seksi. This is going to suck ass.

 :ye_gods:

(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/69557/I%20have%20a%20genuine%20sense%20of%20loss.jpg)

No...

NO!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! </vader>

You all saw the chap that they hired to be Sabertooth. Are you really surprised to see that they've sodomized Wade Wilson?

Liev Schriber is awesome for a younger Sabertooth.. about a million steps up from the one from the X-men movie.

Or they could've gone for this chap (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0474520/).

Liev Schriber is a terrible actor.

Wrong.

Although a favourite comic nerd pass time, getting bent out of shape about whatever way Wolverine's past is being molested this time is a severe waste of energy.

As someone somewhere else pointed out when I first saw the Deadpool figure, it's possible they didn't completely sodomize Deadpool.  It's possible that, in the movie, he tapes the blades to his arms to mimic wolverine, and pulls his usual shenanigans.  My money, however, is not on that, but time will tell.

The first thing I thought when I saw that was they're strapped to his arms to mock him.

Final trailer up on MTV.com (http://www.mtv.com/videos/movie-trailers/347877/x-men-origins-wolverine.jhtml#id=1606349).

Interesting that they're bringing a young Cyclops into this.  Made me wonder if they were involving Sinister somehow (the part where the guy says something about "the young mutant you were looking for") especially given that both Sabretooth and Gambit have worked for Sinister.  Even if it's just a cameo of his human alter ego Nathaniel Essex.

Am I high or did I just see Deadpool shooting lasers from his eyes?  :awesome_for_real:

Yeah, you are high (that wasn't Deadpool).

you are right. he had two arm blades, multiple scars on his body, with wolvie jumping on his back while laser was at full blast.  :crying_panda: this movie.....i'm really sad now.

That did look like the Deadpool doll action figure that was pictured above. Also, that looked like Sabertooth was chasing Cyclops through the school.

They took away the Merc with a mouth's mouth..... expectations back in the gutter.

The guy with the blades in his arms is Weapon XI.   
From wiki:
    * Scott Adkins as Weapon XI: Weapon XI has powers "pooled" from many other mutants killed and/or kidnapped in the film, including Wolverine's healing factor and Cyclops' optic blasts.[20]. He's the final antagonist of the film, having been genetically altered to be the ultimate mutant killer.[3]

Yep, Deadpool's comics are awesome. From the new line that started with Secret Invasion they have been hilarious. So funny in fact that my g/f (who hates comics) actually laughs her ass off at his split personality and his antics.


This. They got the name on the package wrong. That would be a good buy though for collectors (maybe?).

If anything I will go see it purely for the "fun" factor. I am not expecting it to be even remotely close to anything Weapon X, Origins, or Old Man Logan. Probably a mix of all of it. I am still kinda boggled to see Gambit but whichever. The tough part is sitting in the theatre and not saying "ah christ, seriously?" out loud too much.

Weapon XI is deadpool  :uhrr:

 :heartbreak: I had hoped this XI was not Deadpool. Sigh.

It's not. Two totally different characters in the movie. Deadpool is played by Ryan Reynolds, XI is played by Scott Adkins. They just borked up the packaging.

Ive seen the fucking movie.

Good for you. So they changed Ryan Reynolds into Scott Adkins at the end of the movie?

Not even at the end. Ryan goes into the tub, Scott comes out.

Blah, lame.

Lame doesn't even begin to describe it.   :mob:

So where did this "they messed up the packaging" myth come from?

 :ye_gods: :ye_gods: :ye_gods: :uhrr: :uhrr: :uhrr: :drill: :drill: :drill:

So basically some fuckwit writer decided to make an idiot pun out of the character's name, and pretty much disregard everything else from the character?

I should note, I'm not a DP fan as I stopped buying comics before he was created, and I pretty much only know what I've read in this thread and on Wiki, so I'm not bent out of shape in the fanboi sense, it just strikes me as a completely stupid waste of a character's IP. I know they suck donkey balls, but doesn't Marvel (these days, at least) have any kind of veto or editorial input into their IP's films?

Traditionally they didn't - the IP went to the studio and it was up to them to do what they wanted with it (e.g. Dolph Lungren's "The Punisher", Roger Corman's unreleased "Fantastic Four", the "Blade" movies).

More recently Marvel have been a lot more hands on - starting their own studio - but 20th Century Fox has full control over the X-Men rights. Avi Arad used to kick heads at studios to try to keep things consistent with the Marvel IP and for things not to suck, but if you aren't funding the production the amount of power you have over such things is limited.

If "Wolverine" sucks, it is the end result of Marvel selling off movie rights to its characters like cheap candy decades (or more) ago. That "Blade" was a watchable and profitable film that helped kick off their movie revival was a happy accident.

My understanding is that Deadpool as he is seen early on in the film is reasonably close to how he is in the comics.  Should Reynolds take on the character be popular with audiences, it's been suggested that they may do a spin-off.  Regardless of whatever his fate is at the end of this movie, we're talking about movies based on comics here, so even if he dies (I don't know, haven't watched the leaked print) there's no reason they can't find a way to bring him back and revert him back from his Weapon XI form.

Fox has the rights to X-Men movies in the same respect that Sony has the rights to Spider-man movies.  In regards to the X-men movies, the rights revert back to Marvel in 2012 if Fox doesn't have any movies in active development, which is probably why they announced X-Men Origins: First Class (in case the Magneto movie continues to get stuck in development Hell).

No where, why? I looked at the packaging, looked at the model, and said "oh wow, they messed up the packaging". Anyone who hasn't seen the movie and followed Deadpool would say the same thing.

"Wilson became a test subject in Department K’s branch of the joint U.S./Canadian superhuman enhancement project, the Weapon X Program; his cancer was temporarily arrested via the implantation of a healing factor derived from another Department K agent, the mutant adventurer Wolverine." That's it. It wasn't "Wilson gains pewpew laser eyes, blades in his arms, and turns into Weapon XI". He did go back to the new Weapon X program at some point but nothing like that...

That fickle bitch called hope.

fox....fox  :heartbreak:

The same guy who wrote the ending to the American version of Life on Mars?

Ah jesus, you watched it too? I was like oh jesus h fucking christ are you kidding me?

Apparently, Davis (where I am right now) is one of three finalists for the world premier.   I'm kind of hoping we win, but then I wonder how hard it will be to actually attend.

For some reason I laughed out loud at "the joint U.S./Canadian superhuman enhancement project".

lol canadians

Hey those mounties are pretty tough!

So my girlfriend snagged a copy of the work print from someone at her work.  Not sure how recent it was, but it was 98% complete.  Just needed some of the wires cleaned up, and some of the effects finalized, namely the nuclear reactors at the end of the movie.

It had the same feel as X-men 3 to me.  Not sure if it was the same people involved, though.

Still, Jackman, and Schreiber are damn good as Wolvie, and Sabretooth.  The whole Gambit thing is really wasted since he was only in the movie for a few minutes, mostly as a lame plot device, though I wasn't ever aware he was in any way involved in Logan's origin story to begin with.

Same thing with Wilson/Deadpool.  Reynolds is in two scenes as Wilson, and then whoever the stuntman was in the big fight at the end as Weapon XI, aka "Deadpool".  Reynolds, while kinda funny, was really flat as Wilson, in my opinion.  I dunno if he was just dialing it in, because he was pissed at what should have been an awesome role for him being whittled down to two scenes, or if he just didn't give a shit.

The work print is also missing everything they filmed during the reshoots.

teleport is 'gadget power' kind of thing. But I guess that's it for Deadpool in the movie. Raped beyond recognition.

Interesting.  I've got some free passes, so maybe I'll go see it after it comes out.

One more thing about Deadpool, prints of the movie have one of two different scenes at the very end of the credits.  They're very short, but one could be taken as a hint for a the possibility of a Deadpool spin-off.

Reynolds is saying that the Deadpool spin-off will be "authentic" Deadpool. (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=56237)

He will actually possess a mouth confirmed! baby steps fox baby steps.