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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9236465192&sid=1 (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9236465192&sid=1)

Wow:
New class spells and talents
Barbershops
Guild Calendar
Hunter pet skill revamp
Inscription!

And more. Patch to drop "in the coming weeks".

Barbershops!

 :Love_Letters:

No no no!  This is dumb.  I was told so here!


I'm glad they are throwing the current subscribers some bones.  I likes it.

Again a very smart decision. This way I won't be fumbling with all my new talents when wotlk comes out and instead can focus on some fun experiences.

Hopefully they patch in alot of the new UI coding, threatmeter, and some of the other behind the scenes bells and whistles so that UI/Mod writers can get their stuff up and running. Last thing anyone wants on release day is to fuddle around with their UI for 45min before they even start anything.

Also, (in beta) I keep hearing more and more that this is setting up nicely for a late November release, so that it hits pretty close to the 4 year anniversary for WoW. They still have to resolve some more class/talent issues (Prot Warriors, Feral/Bear Druids, and Rogues need some love it seems and Mages need a fix from what I've been told), and there is the odd buggy quest, but the zones I've run through so far seem like they are doing well (Howling Fjord, Borean Tundra, Dragonblight). Here's hoping..

September 17 patch release imo (on the test servers, if nothing else).  :awesome_for_real:


-- Z.

From the whining on the Warlock forums, the mages just got a few fixes in the last beta patch, along with some hunter tweaks.  The warlocks are now beginning to realize they're not getting buffed like other classes are and they're ticked.  It's amusing.

Rogues are, apparently, going to get some raid-wide utility buffs so it makes sense to take them, what with the proposed buff stacking and DPS-equalization changes.

Incoming hunter nerf, again within a week of the patch dropping, again 2 months before anyone playing release even sees a new level.

Maybe it wont be so bad this time. At least they aren't fucking with sta ratios.

and what about nerfing LOS/columns in Arenas?   :uhrr:

The new arenas are tiny, and only have transient columns.

Hey, can someone dig out the thread where I flat out told you they'd do this because they did it last time and some cunt got into an argument about it with me when I was clearly right and they were clearly fucking stupid.

I'd do it myself, but I'm too busy preening.

For you baby, anytime:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=13254.msg472811#msg472811

Hmmm, it was Lamaros.

Suddenly I don't feel so superior.

Ach well.  Can't have everything I guess.

Hehe.


All I said was that they wouldn't do this months and months in advance of WotLK comming out like they did with TBC. Not that it would not be done.

And seeing how this wont be out till late September (Oct more likely on live) at earliest and I still expect WotLK in November we're still not disagreeing.


So yeah. I never said it wouldn't happen. Just that it would be ~one month before release of the expansion. I could still be wrong, but we don't know that yet. This goes live in mid oct and we get an mid nov release of WotLK and I'm actually 100% correct in my expectations.

(I did however disagree with Dren's stupid)

Here's a blue post basicly saying the same things as me: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9244876102&pageNo=1&sid=2000#19


TL;DR version: Don't expect this to go live before October, or maybe even November.

The can't get this shit out by November. That's a pipe dream or epic fail.

Prediction: This patch will be out the week after Blizzcon, with WotLK live a month or so later.

And you were wrong.  My original post said get this out to the current subscribers ahead of the expansion to not only test it on a macro scale (outside test servers,) but to throw a bone at the people that care the most about it and tend to give the most input versus those that quit and only come back at big patches and expansions.

Put as much of the content that doesn't require the expansion in when it seems ready, not at expansion launch.

The amazing and indepth retort?  "That's dumb."

The other great response?  "They want to sell expansions." --- Yeah, guess that part about "content that doesn't require the expansion" slipped by people.  Subscribers can continue to enjoy that stuff even without the expansion.

I think you're wrong in thinking the expansion is only a few months away.  My prediction is that we'll be chewing on this patch for 3-4 months before the expansion comes out.

Wheeeeeeeeeeee


 :why_so_serious:

Yep.  That'd be why they're tossing it out there NOW rather than just waiting for the expansion.  Eyonix mentioned they keep some patches on the test servers for "Months." That would appear to be setting the stage for the patch to not go live until late October/ November.  If the x-pac was going live around then as well, they'd be announcing it as the X-pack patch, NOT a content patch.

There will be no WOTLK before January, 09.  People need to stop reading EBGames 'release dates' as some sort of gospel and just wait on the company to make the damn announcements.  They're right as often as Ms. Cleo.

Well done!  You got someone else to dig up the argument to get it started again while you sat back and made a couple of snarky comments.  You've got some amazing management skills.

Oh hay, look at that.

I personally thought the 2 minutes it took me to find the thread was going to be a waste of time.  Just goes to show you the glory that a small amount of effort can produce.

Hehe.


You're wrong too, but I kinda like you so I feel bad for you being in the same boat as the above.

It always amazes me that people don't actually LISTEN to Blizzard when they say 'When it's Done.'

It's a mantra they have built huge successes on and yet you people treat them like SOE.

Have some fucking patience.  I mean, when it  DOES come out, you're just going to bitch about it anyway....


And you wanted to work for me ?  This is how I run my department.   :grin:

I'll assume you're replying to me here?

I don't really care when it comes out. I'll play it when it does for 2-3months and then stop again, like I've done all other times. I'm just saying what I think will happen.

We can make bets if you want to make it more fun. I'm sure my contrite apology would be reward in itself, but why not go for more?

Actually, No.

It's more a general observation.

Apologizing for a prediction is not necessary.  Apologizing for saying everyone elses predictions are stupid and dumb however....

Predictions are like assholes.  Everyone has one.

Except an old friend of mine that had colon cancer and let you know every chance he had that his was missing.  May he rest in peace.

That is what I meant. Of course there is no reason just to apologise for having an opinion.

But you know. I won't be apologising, because it's coming out this year.  ;D (I may gloat a little, though I will try to be magnanimous)

It's not November 4th, yet.

I'm perfectly fine with a smart boss who gets their employees to work without realizing they're working until after the fact.

I resubbed for this crap and a chance at beta. :uhrr: :uhrr: :uhrr:

Also I'm bored. And Dumb.

*Nelson laugh*

Lord Nelson has a distinctive laugh? Some sort of "Hah! I have confounded thee Napeleon, but I too am confounded!"?

And yeah, I actually thought of him before I thought of the Simpsons...

That would still be condecending.  Either works.

Background downloading is about to be enabled for the patch:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679402958&sid=1

Maybe it's coming sooner than I thought.

Dammit, I need to decide on a good level 70 raiding build for my warlock.  I NEED MORE TIME.

Affliction until you have the gear to go destruction. Ta da?

You realize I'm talking about a level 70 build with the new talent trees in the content patch, right?

/dance

Actually no, I was for some reason thinking it was a new character you were going to hit 70 with from the faster xp change. Why I projected what I'm going to be doing myself on to you, I have no idea. Narcissism, probably.

I'll take that as a compliment!

If background downloading is on, how long before the patch is likely to hit in current estimates. From previous experience. If you take a guess.

I have to know. I'm counting on Inscription to make me a fortune - a fortune dammit! But I'm just not ready yet and am likely to be offline next week for an unforseeable amount of time.

My guess is that this is still a ways out.

I know that they're still making fundamental ability changes for shaman. Not that screwing shaman is unknown when dealing with Blizzard.

Still, I'd guess a couple of months yet.

I say about a week until PTR of the content patch then about a month to month and a half until the content patch is pushed live.

Early background downloading probably has something to do with whatever new art/zones they need to download.  Stormwind Harbor, for example, and the geographical changes to it.  That's gonna take a good bit of data to pull down and starting the downloads early makes that smoother.

Plenty of time to be a-gatherin those herbs then!

Even if it hit the PTR today, it would still be a month of testing.

I will play DA and posit that it is, in fact, already live.

Most of the content and media is done, so it's easy enough for them to preload through the background downloader. What isn't done is the balancing, which is horribly, horribly unfinished at the moment. If you use TBC as a guide, the 2.0 patch came out about a month prior to the expansion. Best estimates put the expansion 2.5-3 months off at this point.

*cough* distraction for people thinking about WAR launch Mon   :oh_i_see:

Worked for me.  Got my beta key and now have no desire to play WAR.