Title: Best Review Ever Post by: Morfiend on June 11, 2008, 10:50:55 AM I found this on Digg, and I didnt see it here. Please Den if this has already been posted.
Amazon Review (http://www.amazon.com/review/R1LPA5YOND6TGD/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm) Quote "Trapped under a beam with the countdown ticking away, the monster just on the other side of the battered door, and my friends are trying to free me, I look up at them and yell, "Go on without me. I'll be alright. I'll hold him off while you escape!" And my friends, because they know my sacrifice won't be in vain, make their getaway and when the monster breaks through just as the explosives go off, I know I died saving the lives of my dearest friends." That pretty much sums up my experience reading Aaron Rayburn's novel, THE SHADOW GOD. I took one for the team, so the rest of you would NEVER have to be subjected to this beast. I beg you, don't let my selflessness be for nothing. Heed my warning. This is the worst book ever written. The back cover copy reads "Craig Johnson had two best friends, two caring parents, a hot girlfriend, and a nice truck--not bad for a twenty-year-old." Already we're in trouble. The author photo shows Rayburn in all his mid-20s virginal glory. Manson contacts, a black cap turned backwards with a red 666 monogrammed on it, he's posing next to what looks like a rubber demon. His bio includes the line "He also says that he owes a great deal of gratitude to the Devil . . . for filling his mind with such horrific images." If this book is the most horrific thing the devil can come up, I think humanity is safe from the threat of hell. There are so many things wrong with this book, I decided to keep notes so I could present them in an orderly fashion, with quotes to back me up. I don't want you to take my word for this novel's horridness, I'm going to let Rayburn speak for himself. We'll start with the plot. Craig Johnson was cursed at birth when his parents left the town church led by the possibly-evil Father Spiers. Spiers then tricked Craig's father Matt into strangling him, only in the end, Matt had killed, not Father Spiers, but one of the doctors. So Matt's been in jail Craig's entire life. Shortly after Craig's 20th birthday he begins to notice a blue light emanating from his bedroom closet. He calls for his mommy (I'm not making that up, it's on page 14), but she doesn't see any light, so he plays it off like he'd seen a rat, and asks her to check in his closet. After she leaves, Craig is compelled to enter the light, which takes him to the Dark World, which is sometimes like a vast black void, paved of course cuz you have to have something to walk on in a void, and sometimes is like Craig's own neighborhood, complete with the houses of his friends. Those friends, Todd and Mark, are also pulled into the Dark World, but they make their escape and then begins the action as the three try to solve the mystery of the blue light and the dark world. To sum up--this book is 454 pages, okay?--Craig is the reincarnation of Abel, the Shadow God is Cain, and Father Spiers is Cain's acolyte, sent to prepare for his return to the real world. In the midst of all this Mark is killed and resurrected by Ridley, a club owner/satanist (he runs The Satanist Group Association. Again, I wish I was making this up!) and servant to Spiers and the Shadow God. Craig's girlfriend, his mother, his father, as well as Mark's sister Margie and Todd's parents, are all killed and the cops think Craig did it. One cop does, anyway, Detective Jim Underwood, son of the doctor Craig's father Matt strangled to death 20 years earlier. DUN-DUN-DUN!!! There's a showdown where Craig is sucked into another portal to face Cain, who then becomes a dragon, and Todd jumps in to help his friend, they all die--except Craig--and we live happily ever after. Okay, I know it doesn't seem THAT bad from the plot. But I haven't begun quoting yet. Mark Twain said, "The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." Rayburn wasn't even close. "Spiers's eyes popped extraneously from their sockets, as his face turned from a deep red to a sickly purple." "Extraneous" means "irrelevant." I don't think that's what he meant. At least, I hope not. Here's my favorite: "The lamp's glow was very weak compared to the blue glow emancipating from the basement." Emanating, Rayburn, EMANATING. When will people learn never to trust their SpellCheck without verifying it's the word they meant??? There are, in total, 11 instances of Rayburn using the wrong word, and believe me, each one is funnier than the last. Okay, one more. "It infiltrated his lungs, filling them with a kind of innovativeness he had never felt before." To be honest, I don't know what word he meant, but I keep seeing Craig's lung filing patents for a dozen new inventions, getting promotions for discovering an even newer formula for Tide laundry detergent, or finding the cure for cancer. Then there are the characters. Craig and his buddies are all 20, they're in college, and they have cars and money. Craig bribes the guard with hundred dollar bills when he's trying to get in to see his father in prison. Yet never in the entire book do these men go to class, nor to a job. Where did Craig get his "nice truck"? His mother works "odd jobs", so I doubt she co-signed the loan. And the dialogue. Oh dear, the dialogue. "That's probably the fiercest dragon known to man," Craig tells Todd toward the end. Because, you know, we have so many different kinds of dragons in the world with which to compare. Okay, so he uses the wrong word and his characters are morons. You can overlook a misused word here and LOTS of writers are horrible with characters. Hell, I'm guilty of this myself. But sometimes he just plain gets his facts WRONG: "The stranger was beastly in size with thick, bushy eyebrows, a prominent protruding forehead, and a thick, black coarse beard. His gait was that of a mammal--a Neanderthal." I know I never went to college, but um . . . do you think Rayburn knows HUMAN BEINGS are mammals as well? And later we learn that Cain and Abel were Neanderthals who lived in the stone age, feared dinosaurs, and that Cain was kicked out of the Garden of Eden for slaying his brother. Dude, Cain and Abel weren't born until a LONG time after Adam and Eve--the only two people who ever lived in the Garden of Eden--were kicked out. And not only is this the worst book ever written, it's also the worst-written book ever. Behold: "Of all the things to think, he never thought he'd think that." And: "Already, he knew he wouldn't be able to do it. In fact, he KNEW he wouldn't." ??? Wasn't that already established in the previous sentence? "Eubanks looked annoyed. He exhaled annoyingly and said..." You know what? I could do this all night. THE SHADOW GOD is the perfect example of everything that's wrong with publishing in today's world. Anyone with the notion--talent or not--can write a "book", then contact a place like AuthorHouse ("publisher" of this fine volume and, I'm sure, Rayburn's second novel which I don't care enough to look up the title to), and unleash this mess on an unsuspecting world. And then we wonder why no one reads anymore. Why should they? If this is the kind of stuff they're being subjected to. Used to be a writer had to learn to WRITE before they could get published. Now, all you need is a couple thousand dollars and you got yourself a book. Talent? Who needs it? Skill? What for? Learning to write? Are you kidding me? Forget about it, I've got this here manyooscript and an address I can get it printed, I'mma be one of dem novelists. Riches, here I comes!!! It's enough to make aspiring writers want to give up seeking legitimate publishing venues. Please don't. Just be sure to write better than this guy. God knows it won't be difficult. Or should I say, God knows it won't be deficit. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Oban on June 11, 2008, 10:54:42 AM :uhrr:
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Soukyan on June 11, 2008, 12:14:17 PM That was quite funny.
I am still trying to figure out what the two 5 star reviewers were thinking when they posted these gems: Quote 5.0 out of 5 stars AWESOME, May 20, 2006 By P. Holsinger (OH United States) - See all my reviews (REAL NAME) I got to read this book as it was being written and could not wait for the next chapter to be ready. It is an incredible story that keeps you wanting more with every page you read. Obviously a friend of the author, and then there's this: Quote 5.0 out of 5 stars Outstanding!!!, July 12, 2005 By Craig Johnson "Craig" (California) - See all my reviews fast-paced! A horrifyingly good read! It's about time someone claimed Stephen King's throne!! I'd give it a 5 out of 5 if it was an elaborate joke to see how many copies of a shitty book you can sell for $35 each. Otherwise, :ye_gods: Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Phildo on June 11, 2008, 12:21:51 PM This review just makes me want to read the book.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Sir T on June 12, 2008, 05:32:57 AM Ed Wood has come back to haunt us.
Then again, it reminds me why George Lucas is regarded as a scriptwriter, when in fact his early stuff was compleatly re-written by other people when he wasnt powerful enough to stop them. Now he is and his true talent shines through... Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: IainC on June 12, 2008, 06:27:06 AM The tags for the book are pretty funny.
Quote Tags Customers Associate with This Product First tag: fap fap fap (Kurt on Jun 11, 2008) Last tag: worst book ever written Sort by: failure (28) junk (19) fap fap fap (17) worst book ever written (14) joke (12) worst book ever (10) gay vampire (8) gay devil (1) gay vampire orgies (1) sucksbeyondreco gnition (1) who would pay 33 dollars for this (1) Edit: Dear Lord, he has a website (http://aaronscryptofgorgothica.com/). Edit^2: Joy! He has a forum! (http://pub20.bravenet.com/forum/1664845214) Money Thread (http://pub20.bravenet.com/forum/1664845214/show/826579) Quote Attention to all you nerds who have suddenly plagued my page with insults and propaganda. Cease posting your infantile words or i will be issuing permanent bans. I have also made a record of all the email addresses sending me spam. It clearly states NO SPAM. Why do you send me crap? My inbox is cluttered with ****. So **** you. Why do you insult my work? It has gotten good reviews. Alot of my friends have said it was suspenseful and had a good plot. A killer combination for a horror story. I am a simple man, making a simple living, leave me alone, or devil karma will get you. This is your final warning. Edit^3: (Sorry I just can't stop myself, this is too funny) He has some Carefully selected reviews (http://aaronscryptofgorgothica.com/page4.html) for his book. They all share a certain... commonality of vision. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Venkman on June 12, 2008, 06:58:37 AM So I just finished reading Misspent Youth (http://www.amazon.com/Misspent-Youth-Peter-F-Hamilton/dp/0333900707/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213282399&sr=8-1) but Peter Hamilton. I like the author a lot for his further-future stuff like Reality Dysfunction and Pandora's Star. And while I didn't like this particular book too much (too much pr0n, to the point of being unenjoyable, if you can believe that), there was on premise I thought tied well into this thread:
The main protagonist had invented a crystalline storage system that allowed the Internet to get really big in size. As a result, every bit of media eventually became free. DRM was trashed, entire industries ended. However, an unfortunate fallout was media quality. Everyone could do whatever they wanted: make movies, music, TV, etc. And since it was all free, and therefore was no was no way to make money on it, there was no industry to prevent crap from coming out. As a result, nothing was really worth watchin. And therefore nothing was worth doing. THE SHADOW GOD sounds like one of thos things that would result. My favorite quotes: Quote "Of all the things to think, he never thought he'd think that." "Already, he knew he wouldn't be able to do it. In fact, he KNEW he wouldn't." Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Merusk on June 12, 2008, 07:04:25 AM Everyone could do whatever they wanted: make movies, music, TV, etc. And since it was all free, and therefore was no was no way to make money on it, there was no industry to prevent crap from coming out. As a result, nothing was really worth watchin. And therefore nothing was worth doing. Hey, maybe it can be retconned so that's why nobody on Star Trek ever watched TV or read a book older than the late 19th century! :drill: Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: climbjtree on June 12, 2008, 07:13:32 AM If you start reading that guys forums, you'll be goatse'd and you won't see it coming. I guess it's devil karma.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Tale on June 12, 2008, 08:41:54 AM Made me remember the absolute worst book I've ever read (http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Australwitz-Allan-W-Halligan/dp/1552127672). Someone gave it to me as a present. Never got to ask him why before he died.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Riggswolfe on June 12, 2008, 08:58:43 AM Made me remember the absolute worst book I've ever read (http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Australwitz-Allan-W-Halligan/dp/1552127672). Someone gave it to me as a present. Never got to ask him why before he died. Was it a slow death and were you ever a suspect? Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 12, 2008, 10:15:30 AM The responses to the review are pretty good.
Quote Morte says: Can we get a novelization of this review instead? 37 of 38 people think this post adds to the discussion. Quote Douglas Mcauliffe says: I agree with Morte, a novel about the reviewer struggling to read this profane script would could be magnificent. Best done in the style of Lovecraft... Or perhaps Howard, if the reviewer has to fight the book in blood-soaked single combat. 13 of 14 people think this post adds to the discussion. I think we know who the one negative response reviewer is. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Brogarn on June 12, 2008, 10:21:06 AM The funny part is, this review will probably lead to more book sales. Epic fails, like train wrecks, bring out the curious.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Phildo on June 12, 2008, 10:42:09 AM I feel like I designed that website for him in 1996.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Soukyan on June 12, 2008, 12:17:44 PM Wow.
Quote [Admin] Aaron Jun 11th, 2008 - 10:12 PM Re: Your reviews lie You have all recieved youre last warning. I am in the process of currently tracking all of youre ips and pinging your home adressess. you should not have commencemed a war with me Perhaps he was tired when he wrote that, but could we get him a copy editor for his forum replies? :lol: Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 12, 2008, 12:21:03 PM He got 'your' right on the third try.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Samwise on June 12, 2008, 12:43:06 PM HE'S PINGING ME
HALP Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 12, 2008, 12:50:06 PM Not only that, he's pinging your home address, however that actually works.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Murgos on June 12, 2008, 01:16:09 PM I love that quote so much I am keeping it for posterity where others can see it and admire its beauty, in my sig.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: schild on June 12, 2008, 01:17:02 PM I'm fond of devil karma. Whatever that is.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: stu on June 12, 2008, 04:51:13 PM His forums are awesome. I felt like I was surfing ForumWarz again. I'm too much of a pussy to taunt devil karma tho. :hello_kitty_2:
http://achievementgen.info/view.php?ach=15298 (http://achievementgen.info/view.php?ach=15298) Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Paelos on June 12, 2008, 09:23:56 PM If this was some elaborate scheme it would be purely artistic.
Sadly, I fear it's just idiotic. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: HAMMER FRENZY on June 13, 2008, 11:49:34 AM Man this thread is too good. Seriously someone has to get more quotes from that damn book.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 13, 2008, 12:02:07 PM I think Phildo has offered to purchase and read it for us.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Paelos on June 13, 2008, 01:31:07 PM I think Phildo has offered to purchase and read it for us. I pity him already. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Daeven on June 13, 2008, 01:44:56 PM I think Phildo has offered to purchase and read it for us. I pity him already. I'll pitch in a $5 for a new life insurance policy for Phildo, as his brain will surely strangle his lungs with emanations of new inventivities. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: tazelbain on June 13, 2008, 01:53:15 PM I don't support giving this igit any money. But if you could steal a copy, that would be okay.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Riggswolfe on June 13, 2008, 01:55:29 PM I don't support giving this igit any money. But if you could steal a copy, that would be okay. i'm normally against pirating but I'll make an exception in this case and look the other way. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Oban on June 13, 2008, 03:10:58 PM Get thee to a library, stat.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: SurfD on June 13, 2008, 03:57:19 PM I love that quote so much I am keeping it for posterity where others can see it and admire its beauty, in my sig. Sigged for posterior?Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Soukyan on June 13, 2008, 04:01:46 PM Get thee to a library, stat. The library refused it. I insisted so they took it out back and used it as kindling for the monthly "Beer and Books" bonfire. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 13, 2008, 04:02:18 PM I'm giggling like an idiot and typing is difficult.
Behold the HORROR! (http://aaronscryptofgorgothica.com/page10.html) Quote from: Aaron Rayburn, Dark Lord and Evil Webmaster of Aaron's Crypt of Gorgothica Lightning stabbed aimlessly at the earth as Victor McCullough peered outside his huge, bay window -- the only window in the entire house. Victor had designed the house with only one window because he said windows of a house were the eyes to its soul and he felt that a house had too many outlets to other worlds. And he made sure his house was different. He felt his house didn't need to see any further into other worlds than it already could with the one window. He and his window spent many days and nights in the Study, gazing out at the Pacific Ocean. Quote from: Aaron Rayburn, Destroyer of Souls and Proprietor of Post Office Box 485, Wheelersburg, OH 45694 The blissful view overlooked an expanse of land which Victor had inherited and turned into his very own golf course. And that's when I lost it. A golf course? Was it an Evil Golf Course? Manservant Hecubus! Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Soukyan on June 13, 2008, 04:04:35 PM Oh dear. He lives within a 5 hour drive of me. I wonder how far that devil karma reaches. :ye_gods:
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 13, 2008, 04:06:07 PM He's a security guard at a maximum security prison (http://aaronscryptofgorgothica.com/page3.html) there, so don't get busted.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: NiX on June 13, 2008, 08:00:02 PM Anyone else notice there's no E in the URL (Gor), but it's on the site? Also, I'm thinking of sending him fan mail that says "Even Canada thinks you suck, eh?"
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Phildo on June 13, 2008, 08:28:46 PM I've never tried pirating a book before, so if someone can find a copy for me, I will in fact read it. And hate you all. But I'll try and pick out some more choice morsels.
I'll also see if it's available at any of the bookstores near me. For research? Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: stray on June 13, 2008, 10:12:30 PM Ed Wood has come back to haunt us. You take that back, damn you! Ed was a saint. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: acerogue26 on June 14, 2008, 05:54:52 AM Can't wait for his next book!
Quote 22 Tails of Suspence and Terror... The Devil's Children by Aaron Rayburn One great big SIC for mankind. Also, catch a look at that totally evil priest that just emancipates evil all over the place. What a mess. http://aaronscryptofgorgothica.com/index.html Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Signe on June 14, 2008, 06:53:00 AM I love that quote so much I am keeping it for posterity where others can see it and admire its beauty, in my sig. Sigged for posterior?I don't like the sound of that! :ye_gods: Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: NiX on June 14, 2008, 06:59:31 AM I've never tried pirating a book before, so if someone can find a copy for me I did my best to find it this morning, but I couldn't. The best I could find was a link to SA where they dug up other books that are equally painful to read.Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Soukyan on June 14, 2008, 08:43:48 AM I've never tried pirating a book before, so if someone can find a copy for me, I will in fact read it. And hate you all. But I'll try and pick out some more choice morsels. I'll also see if it's available at any of the bookstores near me. For research? I could always have Amazon Prime deliver it to me and give it to you this week when you're in town. But man do I hate paying for total shit like that, and I wouldn't want to encourage him. Then again, do you think he would sign a copy for me? Now that would be :drill: Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Sauced on June 14, 2008, 09:57:50 AM http://www.powells.com/biblio/61-9781418499761-1 (http://www.powells.com/biblio/61-9781418499761-1)
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Phildo on June 14, 2008, 11:26:09 AM Quote Gorgothica is... the darkest recess of our minds where thoughts and images of the grotesque, evil and morbid reside; A part of every mind in which creative genius of horror emanates. At least he got "emanates" right this time. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Phildo on June 15, 2008, 07:13:03 PM Went to the bookstore and they didn't have it. They could order it, but I'm not paying $20 for this piece of shit in paperback. $33 for the hardcover.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: NiX on June 15, 2008, 08:38:52 PM Dip into the F13 fund. AKA - Make schild pay for it.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 16, 2008, 03:46:58 AM I'll second that. I want to see a front page write up on The Shadow God.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Sir T on June 16, 2008, 11:54:28 AM Ed Wood has come back to haunt us. You take that back, damn you! Ed was a saint. I was more thinking of Jonny Depp's portrayal of Ed Wood, someone that was so totally enthused by the whole genre that he couldn't even see what what he was doing was crap. I mean it had Bela Lugosi and tentacles, what could go wrong??? Man this thread is too good. Seriously someone has to get more quotes from that damn book. Get them yourself. He has an excerpt from it on his website http://aaronscryptofgorgothica.com/page5.html (http://aaronscryptofgorgothica.com/page5.html) In fact, because I'm a conservative, I'm naturally cruel beyond the capacity for human mercy. So here it is! BWAHAHAAAAA!!! Quote It's leading you to the edge of the world, Craig. Stop now before you fall into the pits of hell. I believe I am already there, he thought morbidly. Craig held his hands to his ears to block the freezing wind and shut out the voices in his head. He couldn't take anymore of it. The exposed skin of his body ached from the biting wind. He wondered when the inhumanity was going to stop. Not until your dead, Craig! NOT UNTIL YOU'RE DEAD! Just then, Craig screamed at the top of his lungs. He screamed for perhaps a full minute, driving all his inner voices away. He stopped abruptly, letting his head swim a little. After a moment, he opened his eyes and peered into the mystic black. Far off into the distance, there was a tiny speck of light. Craig's bloodshot, cold, gray eyes stared fixedly on the seemingly distant star. "Holy fuck," he muttered. Holy fuck was right. Craig was appalled that he was actually seeing something. His fear of blindness was temporarily over. He hollered into the vast darkness. The chilling breeze died instantly and the distant speck of light wavered like a twinkling star. Craig looked around himself through the darkness. There was only the lonely speck far off into the distance. He began to walk toward it. Whatever it was, it was something. And in this world, that was definitely something to give full attention to. Craig's curiosity got the better of him and before he knew it, he was sprinting as fast as he could toward the glowing light. Maybe it was a way out, he thought known people who had talked about the light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe this was a very large tunnel and that speck was the light at the end of it. He could only pray harder that it was. As Craig got nearer and nearer, he saw that the speck of light was a large ball of fire, lazily drifting in the middle of the air. "What the hell?" he muttered. He drifted closer, feeling a tinge of heat for the first time. It felt so good. He wondered if the fireball was dangerous. It almost had to be if it existed in this world, didn't it? Craig was almost sure that nothing good could ever come from this world. "Hello?" Craig said tentatively. The orange ball of flame flickered soundlessly in the pitch black of the Dark World. It cast odd orange light on the concrete below. It's a ghost, Craig's mind screamed. It is a lost soul who has been trapped here.... just like you. Craig refused to believe that. Though it was a ball of fire precariously floating in the middle of the air, Craig had to accept it because it was there in front of him. He was seeing it with his very own eyes. Still, his mind planted that seed of doubt. "Who are you?" Craig asked. The flaming sphere flickered, then a change began. The flame dulled from the bright orange to a glowing azure. Suddenly, it began to sprout limbs. It's changing into a monster. Craig's mind yelled at him to run, but he stood still, unable to move, watching the glowing transformation. Even if he did run, again, where would he go? The burning, blue fire was transforming into a figure. Craig starred transfixed as the object propagated a head. The head stretched the taunt skin of its shoulders as it came up and out. It was bald with dominant features, short horns where its ears should have been, and piercing, black eyes, and a large flat nose. It growled softly, lifting up its arms. It is a demon, Craig thought on the verge of fainting. His mouth suddenly went dry and he trembled, fear building inside him to a near hysteria. The demon floated several feet into the air, shining radiantly with that ominous, blue light Craig had seen in his bedroom. Suddenly, the demon stopped growling and craned its neck toward Craig. The demon floated several feet into the air, shining radiantly with that ominous, blue light Craig had seen in his bedroom. Suddenly, the demon stopped growling and craned its neck toward Craig. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Brogarn on June 16, 2008, 12:33:42 PM :ye_gods:
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 16, 2008, 12:36:59 PM First, I am not a writer. I've written a few stories in my youth, and they were all about as bad as this crap. That said, I don't have aspirations of being a writer and try to sell my teenage angst as popular fiction on Amazon. For $35, no less. So, let the riffing begin.
Quote Craig held his hands to his ears to block the freezing wind and shut out the voices in his head. Voices in one's head cannot be stopped by covering one's ears. That's like trying to mute your car stereo by rolling up the windows. Quote Craig was appalled that he was actually seeing something. His fear of blindness was temporarily over. I'm certain that 'appalled' is the wrong word, given the sentence after. Appalled does not mean surprised. Quote Whatever it was, it was something. And in this world, that was definitely something to give full attention to. So, something unknown is still something, and something compared to nothing is worthy of attention. Astoundingly profound logic. Quote He wondered if the fireball was dangerous. I'll give you a hint - fireballs are made of fire. Quote Though it was a ball of fire precariously floating in the middle of the air, Craig had to accept it because it was there in front of him. He was seeing it with his very own eyes. Still, his mind planted that seed of doubt. What seed of doubt? What does he have to accept? I've taken this slightly out of context, but read it in context - it makes no sense. Quote The burning, blue fire was transforming into a figure. Craig starred transfixed as the object propagated a head. Propogate is not something done to a head, unless limbs are spawned individually from sexual activity. As many dirty jokes as you can make with 'propgate' and 'head', it does not make it a proper context in which to use that word. Species propgate, limbs do not. Quote The demon floated several feet into the air, shining radiantly.. Shining radiantly is redundant. Radiant literally means shining. The writer in me really does empathize with this guy. We all write crap from time to time. But this is why there are editors. When we write words, they are reflections of our thoughts. When we reread our own words, they make perfect sense. To Rayburn, I'm sure the above passage is clear as day. He should have an editor point out his mistakes before unleashing his work on the world for scrutiny. Believe me, if it weren't for editors, we would never have heard of writers like Stephen King, Tom Clancy and John Grisham. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Samwise on June 16, 2008, 12:38:10 PM (http://bp0.blogger.com/_THR3SZhbQ_E/SCmiLPZNRWI/AAAAAAAAA0s/BRQumUI5wog/s400/09+Face+Melt.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: bhodi on June 16, 2008, 12:46:42 PM I feel like I'm at a Bulwer-Lytton fiction competition.
That's some truly awful writing. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: HaemishM on June 16, 2008, 12:58:05 PM That writing makes me feel so much better about myself.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Murgos on June 16, 2008, 01:40:56 PM Believe me, if it weren't for editors, we would never have heard of writers like Stephen King, Tom Clancy and John Grisham. I thought you were pro the editing process? Talk about being out of context with the surrounding sentences. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Ironwood on June 16, 2008, 01:46:11 PM That writing makes me feel so much better about myself. That writing would make Rosie West feel better about herself. Please tell me this man isn't making any money ? Or any more books ? Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 16, 2008, 01:57:11 PM Believe me, if it weren't for editors, we would never have heard of writers like Stephen King, Tom Clancy and John Grisham. I thought you were pro the editing process? Talk about being out of context with the surrounding sentences. You need to expand that statement if you want me to fully understand your objection. What I meant is that Clancy, King and Grisham are mediocre at best. They write huge books which are entirely plot driven. There is rarely anything more to 'get' from their works beyond the plot. My guess is that if we were exposed to the original drafts prior to editing, the people who do bother to read their books would be far less likely to do so. Meaning, Rayburn and a decent editor would probably result in something not half bad. For me, the good writers write little but convey much more. See Flannery O'Conner. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Soukyan on June 16, 2008, 03:32:22 PM Yes, but Stephen King wrote a book On Writing (http://www.amazon.com/Writing-Stephen-King/dp/0743455967/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213659004&sr=1-1). Quite a good read, too.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 16, 2008, 03:41:43 PM It may not have been fair to include King with Grisham and Clancy. King has shown the ability to move outside of his genre and has produced some genuinely great works despite his pulp fiction. Misery stands out in my mind.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Montague on June 16, 2008, 03:45:30 PM It may not have been fair to include King with Grisham and Clancy. King has shown the ability to move outside of his genre and has produced some genuinely great works despite his pulp fiction. Misery stands out in my mind. King has some themes and deeper meanings to his work but doesn't feel the need to bludgeon the reader with the message. His style is hardly literary though - his main contribution is essentially creating the form of the modern horror novel. He's much more of a storyteller than a literary writer, IMO. Clancy I'd agree with. 200 pages of plot combined with 200 pages of "cool shit you probably didnt know the military could do". Grisham I never really read, so no comment. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 16, 2008, 04:04:45 PM I've personally never read Clancy. Reading Christopher Buckley's evisceration of his work was enough to convince me to avoid him. Clancy is what you get when an insurance salesman with a penchant for blowing things up buys a typewriter. Grisham, who I have read, against my better judgment, more than once, is what you get when a lawyer gets bored and starts making shit up. I've put down King novels, but I've never outright hated one. On the other hand, halfway through Pelican Brief, I realized that I hated The Firm when I read it and this was the exact same pap.
I retract my statement about Stephen King. I'm glad I just erased the lawyer joke I had above, too. Has schild appropriated funds to get this monstrosity for Phildo yet? Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: stray on June 16, 2008, 04:10:11 PM Grisham is a guilty pleasure of mine (well, guilty pleasure when traveling...since I seem to not read anything of his otherwise). The plots are entertaining, if you like Po' Country Lawyer stuff. Not much there, as far as writing goes though, so I agree.
I've never been able to finish a King novel. Very difficult to follow for me. He's the king of tangents. And even if they aren't tangents, and that there's some way it'll all make sense eventually, I simply stop giving a shit. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Montague on June 16, 2008, 04:42:12 PM Grisham is a guilty pleasure of mine (well, guilty pleasure when traveling...since I seem to not read anything of his otherwise). The plots are entertaining, if you like Po' Country Lawyer stuff. Not much there, as far as writing goes though, so I agree. I've never been able to finish a King novel. Very difficult to follow for me. He's the king of tangents. And even if they aren't tangents, and that there's some way it'll all make sense eventually, I simply stop giving a shit. For some reason he goes way overboard on the internal dialogue. Whenever I see him starting the stream of consciousness bullshit I see it as a signal to skip ahead two pages. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Daeven on June 16, 2008, 10:33:57 PM Shining radiantly is redundant. Radiant literally means shining. Ooo! New MMO Matrial Arts game from Korea: Shining Radiant Path Of Divinely Forceful Emanations! Or maybe its a new Kung-fu cereal. I can't tell. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Sky on June 17, 2008, 07:07:27 AM Ooo! New MMO Matrial Arts game from Korea: Shining Radiant Path Of Divinely Forceful Emanations! Sounds more like a bowel movement. So...fitting given the source.Or maybe its a new Kung-fu cereal. I can't tell. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Murgos on June 17, 2008, 08:38:19 AM Believe me, if it weren't for editors, we would never have heard of writers like Stephen King, Tom Clancy and John Grisham. I thought you were pro the editing process? Talk about being out of context with the surrounding sentences. You need to expand that statement if you want me to fully understand your objection. You seem to imply that the editing process is a good thing and then provide three (or, maybe 2.5) examples of writers who it probably would have been better to hear nothing from at all, which we, presumably, might not have without robust editing. Thus, editing is bad. Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Grand Design on June 17, 2008, 01:29:04 PM I see. My opinion of those authors tainted the point that I was making about literary success. I was making the point that even semi-decent authors can sell a metric shitton of books. An bored insurance salesman and a bored lawyer managed to become household names and produce a string of books which were best sellers, more likely than not with the help of some good editors. I was implying that Rayburn's 'art' would be a lot less repugnant if it were edited.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: lamaros on June 18, 2008, 06:16:23 PM Shit edited is still shit. You must hate editors if you'd want to labour them with such a horrible task. Things this bad get dumped in the wastebin.
Title: Re: Best Review Ever Post by: Paelos on June 18, 2008, 10:59:06 PM Shit edited is still shit. You must hate editors if you'd want to labour them with such a horrible task. Things this bad get dumped in the wastebin. Pretty much. The editor is supposed to filter your work. You can't filter a turd. |