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This might be the best racing game ever made (Yes, better than Ridge Racer 2, Wipeout, GT3 A-Spec, and F-Zero). Fuck, and Mario Kart.

This shit is getting real.

I want to have sex with this game.

At least one of you motherfuckers picked this up, right? RIGHT?

oh god someone talk to me i r not gud with computar

Personally, I'm waiting for the actual game.  I've played it a bit, but the limited car and track selection isn't worth the $$ imo.  I'm not spending $40 for what amounts to an enhanced demo.

Forza 2's visuals aren't up to the same level, but the control and physics fidelity are at least where GT5P is at.  I'm also not keen on playing bumper cars with people online.

Gran Turismo is my favourite console game ever. Ever. Ever.

Sadly Sony (in common with practically everyone else) thinks Europeans are stupid and will pay extra for a console that is more sucky than the ones they sell outside Europe. So I don't have a PS3, have no immediate plans to get one and therefore will be relegated to playing GT4 on my PS2...

60 Cars, 6 tracks reverse and forward, 4 ranks and robust online support? Not sure what else you want. IMO, this is perfectly worth $40. Not a dollar more or less.

Also, GT4 was crap to me. A-Spec 4tw. And this one definitely feels more like A-Spec to me.

I skipped 4, and just kept playing 3, too.

I'm not saying I didn't consider GT5P, but I know I'm going to drop $60 on GT5 when it's released.  When they get around to releasing the actual game I'm there, but I'm not going to spend $100+ for what they're ultimately going to sell for $60 (since all of what's in GT5P will be in the full game, with extra cars/tracks).  If they'd let me upgrade GT5P to the full retail version when it releases for $20-40 and a download, I'd bite, but as it stands, I can wait - Forza 2 has my 'serious racer' addiction covered for now.

If I liked Forza 2, I might agree with you.

But I thought it was total poop.

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=10153.msg316109#msg316109


At the time you were pretty keen, but we can agree to disagree.  :)  I'm kinda hoping GT5 will allow for painting/customization, since that took up a lot of my FM2 time.

Whee!  Double post!

Oh, it's a masterpiece of a game. Just like the latest Fight Night.

But to me it was poop. So was Fight Night.

Also, 360 d-pad = lulz.

D-pad in a racing game when you have analog controls available?  Zomg.

I've been using nothing but D-Pad since the first game I ever played (racing that is).

When they started with analogue on the PS1, I still didn't use it. Nor in Sega Rally on the dreamcast.

The Evolution X needs a nerf.

I have it. Haven't played it.

guys, schild is masturating to GT5P.  :ye_gods:

i'm downloading it now.  :yahoo:

That is pretty much completely the opposite of how I've generally been hearing the online support described.

What more is needed than high-score lists, time trials, and 16 player racing? As well as GT-TV, which is an entirely unnecessary addition. Oh and sharing replays.

Haven't played it, but most reviews have said it's the most underwhelming part of the game.  Does it have support for voice chat and friends lists?

I'm sure it doesn't. Don't see why it's necessary. Also, I agree that it's the most underwhelming part of the game.

That said, everything else is so stellar it's like being the dumbest kid in the smartest class. You're still in the smartest class.

Hmm, I thought all PS3 games were voice/chat enabled (don't play online much...just shooters, I guess. But that shit is part of the PS3's system features, I know that at least).

I'm just happy to have some racing sim to fuck around with.

Well you called it robust.  Voice chat and friends lists really should be standard in all online games at this point.  That being said, is there any way at all to be able to just play online with friends as opposed to random people?

Better than the original Wipeout?!  That's blasphemy.  Also means that if I didn't have to finish hanging wainscotting tonight, I'd be playing it tonight.

I have a confession, I have never once gotten voice chat to work in a single console game other than Lost Planet. I've simply never dicked around with it. I'm sure, for most, it's a killer feature. For me, it's just ANOTHER BULLET POINT on the box.

On PC, I make sure it works in everything if it's available though >_>.

Schild no likey bluetooth. Though I'm picking up that Metal Gear bluetooth headset if it turns out to be real.

I try not to dick around with it as much as possible. For racing, I'm not sure what's the big deal anyways. There aren't any teams to coordinate with. If I feel like talking shit, which I won't, 3 or 4 letters will suffice.

Generally when I'm playing online with people these days, it tends to be with people I know.  If I can't chat with those people while I'm playing, then for all intents and purposes I feel like I'm just playing a single player game with better AI.  Of course if one can't even get a private game together with friends, I guess it's a moot point anyway.

I don't know, I mean I'm sure the game is probably worth $40.  Gran Turismo has alway been pretty high quality stuff.  I guess it's just that my first reaction upon coming into this topic and seeing schild just whipping his dick out for this game and using phrases like "robust online support", was to say "hey, let's not just give this game a free pass despite leaving out shit that should really be a no-brainer at this point".  Sony did some of the same shit with the latest Hot Shots game, and I really think people need to give them more shit over it.  If that requires them to stop dicking around with Home for a bit, or messing around with their online store for a bit than so be it.  Getting the online shit for their first party games up to standard needs to be a priority.

Fair enough. I'll agree on that. It's up to them to show what can be done.

Whoa there. Hot Shots Golf has shitloads of downtime and in some modes shitloads of waiting.

Gran Turismo is comprised of 3-4 minute races. More often than not in succession with minimum to zero downtime.

Having voice chat in a game where people would naturally want to talk and have shitloads of time to talk trash and crack jokes vs a game where utmost concentration is needed at all times if you want to be even remotely competitive is just completely unfair.

We're talking comparing apples to moon rocks unfair.

Clap Hans dropped the ball on Hot Shots. Polyphony Digital did not drop the ball on GT5 Prologue.

I can't find it in any of the stores here and I don't have room on my 20gb hdd.  If I wasn't broke this wouldn't be a problem.  Blah!

Uh oh, it's grindy time... Not enough tracks to just make cash off of single races.

B Class, get a Nissan Skyline, do the Daytona Speedway track, takes less than 3 minutes. $12,500 a pop.

And for those who aren't worried about being competitive and just want to race against their friends?  Sorry, but this is crap.

Thanks. Gonna do that. Need to get that Z06.  :grin:

Getting a car fast enough to simply win some of the A series shit is not as easy as it sounds.

Finally, my thread. I was tempted to start it since this game came out in Europe but thought it was unfair to you NA people.

YEs, it's a dream game if you are into cars. CARS, not races. Which doesn't mean it's not a great, awesome racing game (because it is!), just that it's much more about cars than actual racing. Part of the enjoyment is beating lap records to me more than racing the AI or, so far, online peeps (not enough gratification, too much anonymous stuff, probably voice chat will help this).

A wheel, even the cheap Driving Force EX (as long as it is Logitech and has FF), boost the fun factor 300%. A Full HD tv set adds another 50%. This thing is running at 60fps in 1920x1080. Crazy sweet.

Now Schild, I hope they add custom online races soon as I can't wait for you to beat the crap out of my Audi R8.

This is the first game where I'm really missing dual shock (and may go either buy a controller or maybe a steering wheel).   

About "robust online game", many whine about the extreme amount of dickheads around (crashing at every corner and messing with your race) more than actual suckiness.

Getting in a race is very quick and easy, and it pays off money you can use to buy cars, so you can grind while racing online instead of having to repeat the same offline race over and over.

Voice chat, which is mostly unnecessary, is coming with the next patch, as are the private room/races. Speaking of which, that is the biggest weakness so far: the absence of private rooms, so yes you can only race random people and not your friends. But then again a patch is coming and the game prologue is huge as it is.

Online real time rankings and downloadable replays are  :heart:

Bottom line: the online is definitely robust. It only needs private races, which are definitely important and are coming in the next patch. Everything else is simply heaven.

This is the first iteration of the Dual Shock I've cared about. It weighs about 75% more than the Sixaxis, which is just super nice. Also, the rumble goes from subtle to "will fall off the table."

It's just awesome.

That GTR is friggin' sweet.

[edit] On another note, I can't get past B class, because of that damn Impreza challenge. It's hard enough for me to even make 4th. So I'm just grinding with that Nissan above. My other really good car is a Ford GT, but the GTR kicks it's ass in my opinion. Not as fast, but it's glued to the road.

Impreza challenge?

I guess Europe and NA have different challenges then. Odd.
Wheel or not, I am struggling to win the last race of the S class driving the Ford GT. I don't want to win it with anything else than a Ford GT so it's tweaking time.

On a side note, do you NA people have the GTR videos in GT-TV available already? Love that stuff, and that car.

Haven't checked out the videos...

There's two Impreza challenges actually. One in C class, and one in B. It's one of those races where you start at last place, and have to move your way up to at least third place by the end of 1 lap. The C class one was easy... The Impreza's a pretty fast car there. The B class race? Not so much. Most of the cars there are equal (although there's a BMW Z series in the lineup, which is kind of screwed up). I thought that I was a pretty good GT player, but it seems like they want perfection just to place in 3rd.

It's all based on which car you pick first.

The Impreza challenges are when you pick the impreza. Type R when you pick Type R, etc.

Also, Stray, perfection still places first. You just, ahem, aren't that good.

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

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I'd admit it if I was that bad, I don't care.

[edit] Also, what do you mean it's based on the car you picked first? I only bought an Impreza because the challenge said I had to. I only had one car before that.

It might default to Impreza (if you go look at the events before picking a car). But I bought a car at a dealership before doing anything, as did my roommate and it was all tailored to that car.

Same here. I bought the Type R (and a bunch of others) just because they were required. Didn't spend money on "my" cars until Class S. Up to that point I only bought what was required and a Ferrari for the Son.

Seems like I should just start over again and try the Type R. I've done this race at least 50 times. I just can't beat it. Made a lot of cash though...

The full version of this game may actually get me to buy a Nex-Gen console.

Random:  Am I the only guy who never liked rumble?  The dildo in the gamepad buzzing when my ship blows up, or whatever, isn't giving me a more realistic simulation of my flaming death, it's just annoying.

I don't have a strong opinion about it either way, but.... The original PS3 controllers are too light. So if anything, they're better off now just because of that.

I don't like rumble. Never liked it, in any game.

Force Feedback for steering wheels though it's almost a necessity.

I can't get past the B-Class start from behind race either, 6th is about as good as I have gotten in about 20 tries, I seem to only be able to put together a good 1/2 race, either the front half or the back half.

I picked up the newly released steering wheel, pure love.... The wife was a tad annoyed I dragged the kitchen table into the TV room (its right next to the kitchen) so that I could mount the wheel but after about 10 races to get the feel for it, the wheel rocks.  I was very impressed about how strong the feedback on the wheel was, the feedback really mimics the driving conditions.  At high speed on a bumpy straight, it you take your hands off the wheel the car starts to "speed wobble" out of control very cool.

Thank you! I knew that I couldn't be alone on that.

I need to get a steering wheel myself... Don't have shit for accessories. Should get an Eye too..some of those downloadable games look interesting.

We rented this tonight, took about 4 hours to gold out on C and B classes, need to buy some new cars though, the GT-R apparently isn't japanese enough for the jap challenges, so it looks like I'm buying a new NSX, an f430, and probably the GT-40 for the muscle car challenge.

F430 wins everything (and it's so easy to drive) up to A class. S class is a different beast cause you have to tweak cars and PP (Performance Points), and the F430 isn't (!) powerful enough.

I wonder if you're having a hard time on that B-class race because of the pad. I am afraid that the game, driving aids or not, isn't forgetful enough to be played effectively with a pad.

I've been doing just fine with a pad, however I think it would be FAR more fun (and easier) with the wheel.

I also can't seem to get past the come from behind challenge in B class.
So far I have only gotten to 6th (I must really suck) and now that GTAIV is coming out tomorrow I doubt I will ever get past it.
If someone has some sage words of advice I'm all ears. I have even watched youtubes of people doing the race to see exactly what line they are taking and I just cant seem to be carrying enough speed through the corners no matter how good I think my line is.

Also, I would love to have the steering wheel but I can't think of a good way to mount it to my Sumo bean bag chair.

It's all about drafting.

I got my best times by turning the difficulty settings up,   real physics and turning off the traction control,  the car seems to slide without losing as much speed :-)  Placed 2nd by a bumper after probably 100 tries.   I also seemed to do better by trying 20 in a row, walking away for a bit then my best times were the first game back.

Good luck!