Title: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 12, 2007, 02:04:58 PM I wanted to start a new thread outside of the Console Lineup thread as I've made something that illustrates the next 8 weeks. In October, I'll probably do another, though the rush isn't as heavy except for a week in November. Welcome to hell, dudes.
(http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1091/gamesthroughoctoberrd4.th.jpg) (http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1091/gamesthroughoctoberrd4.jpg) Image too big for just pasting. Also, I'm obviously not buying the sports games or some of the other titles (Bleach Wii, pshaw). But! These are "notable releases." So yea, it's time to write some emo poetry about your wallet. Discuss. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Nonentity on August 12, 2007, 02:06:55 PM See: "Why I Have No Money"
Yeah. Schild is a little more into the jrpgs then I am, but I'm still dropping a metric fuckton of money. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 12, 2007, 02:19:39 PM Here's what I'm actually buying. I *think* I have all of this preordered actually. (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5944/moneytoiletls9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Azazel on August 12, 2007, 02:21:12 PM I'm a massive tightass when it comes to new release software prices, I don't buy for handhelds or have a PS3/360, (or buy anything but the very top tier of PS2) and there's still 3 things I'd like to get off that list, 2 more-or-less right away.
And I never buy stuff right away anymore.. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Xanthippe on August 12, 2007, 03:14:10 PM I thought My Sims was a Wii product, not a DS product.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 12, 2007, 03:17:46 PM I thought My Sims was a Wii product, not a DS product. Both. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Strazos on August 12, 2007, 03:18:11 PM You're buying a Naruto game, but not Metroid?
Granted, I'm not buying Either of them. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 12, 2007, 03:20:41 PM You're buying a Naruto game, but not Metroid? Granted, I'm not buying Either of them. If Metroid were a side scrolling metroidvania, yea, I'd buy Metroid. But it's not. It's a half-assed FPS with lock-on controls. I've skipped the last two and I'll skip this one. Also, it's a Nintendo made console game. Written out. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Rasix on August 12, 2007, 04:13:33 PM I'm just completely screwed.
I see at least 9 games I'll be purchasing. 7 of them on the 360. This is counting out all fighting games and a few nice titles for the PSP. Perhaps I should just ask for a big stack of cash for my birthday. FUCK, Beautiful Katamari on 10/15 according to Ebgames. There's #10. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Amaron on August 12, 2007, 04:20:21 PM Oh man I didn't know Growlanser V is coming. Here's hoping the localization job doesn't suck all the soul out of it. I loved II and III but I worry a lot of that was due to good work by Working Designs.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 12, 2007, 04:20:47 PM Oh man I didn't know Growlanser V is coming. Here's hoping the localization job doesn't suck all the soul out of it. I loved II and III but I worry a lot of that was due to good work by Working Designs. Atlus' translations are vastly superior to Working Designs in every single way. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Amaron on August 12, 2007, 04:36:40 PM Atlus' translations are vastly superior to Working Designs in every single way. I hope so. I only really feel skeptical because for some reason JRPGs always eventualy wear me down but the ones Working Designs did were so much more refreshing to me. This could simply be due to Working Designs picking better games to translate of course. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 12, 2007, 04:41:55 PM Quote This could simply be due to Working Designs picking better games to translate of course. Bingo. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Strazos on August 12, 2007, 05:56:15 PM Hmm, the only games I know I am getting from that lineup is Persona 3 and HL2: Orange Box...and I'm still wavering a bit on that.
I guess I am lucky, sort of. BTW, what's up with that Joan of Arc game? First time I've heard of it. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 12, 2007, 06:04:50 PM PSP tactics title. One of the highest rated PSP games thus far. But what are waitings?
I've played it. It's a damn fine game. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yoru on August 12, 2007, 06:18:33 PM You used the PC Bioshock box instead of the X360 Bioshock box.
WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH SCHILD? But yeah, there's a bunch of shit on there I want. If I had a better PC, I'd be all over Bioshock and World in Conflict. As is, I'm still picking up 3 things off that list. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 12, 2007, 06:32:46 PM I have _always_said_ I prefer kbm to controller. ALWAYS.
I just have no problem playing controller-based games. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: WayAbvPar on August 13, 2007, 08:47:47 AM August through December is gonna be spendy. I want at least 4 of the games in the OP pic, plus a few more coming 'holiday season', notably Rock Band. I might need to sell a kidney to afford it all. Anyone have an extra?
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 13, 2007, 09:08:03 AM I will know tonight which version of Bioshock I want. Getting the 360 version anyway since my wife wants to see it.
This is definitely going to suck. My "no buying games until October" plan seemed so great. The thing is that my wife has some purchase plans, especially now that she's burned-out on Oblivion and has finished the fun parts of Overlord. The near-term purchase list, as of last night's discussion: Blue Dragon Persona 3 Suikoden V Disgaea 2 Eternal Sonata Bioshock MySims [Wii] Metroid (shaddap rabbit) Super Metroid (shaddap shaddin-up) Metroid Prime 3 Lost Odyssey Half Life 2: Ep. 2, etc. Folk Soul The Sims 2: Bon Voyage Cosmic Family ... Ratchet & Clank Future Mario Galaxy It seems like I am forgetting something, which is fine because that's over $500 in softwares. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 13, 2007, 09:19:25 AM I *MIGHT* wait for Blue Dragon to get a price drop. Not kidding. First time ever on a major RPG for me since 2 generations ago. I simply don't have the time to put into it with Bioshock around. But Nah, I'll probably get it anyway.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 13, 2007, 09:28:37 AM Blue Dragon is one of those games that my wife watches me play and we can both get into, the sort of game we have played together since FFVIII, I think. Even better that it's got an Uematsu score, and it's looking to be a bit nostalgic while simultaneously being current-generation. I think this is why Suikoden V is on the list, and why White Knight is on the Spring 08 list.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 13, 2007, 09:37:39 AM Blue Dragon is one of those games that my wife watches me play and we can both get into, the sort of game we have played together since FFVIII, I think. Even better that it's got an Uematsu score, and it's looking to be a bit nostalgic while simultaneously being current-generation. I think this is why Suikoden V is on the list, and why White Knight is on the Spring 08 list. Disgaea 2. She. Will. Love. Disgaea. 2. Buy it before Blue Dragon. Trust me. The story is fucking great. Great. Great. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 13, 2007, 09:46:10 AM I think I will, but you underestimate her hatred of square-based combat games. She likes Makai, but only the "demos" so I save strategically. This nets her about twenty minutes of story for, uh, six or so hours of me dicking around. I already tried with the first Disgaea... maybe I will try again since she's in-between games right now.
I'm hoping she will love Persona 3. Probably will since she loved SMT: Digital Devil Saga. I should ty to finish that one. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Ironwood on August 13, 2007, 11:34:11 AM Man, the people who can buy all these games ten times over, yet have no interest in about 90% of them must piss you chaps off.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Rasix on August 13, 2007, 11:41:46 AM Man, the people who can buy all these games ten times over, yet have no interest in about 90% of them must piss you chaps off. Yes, we know you're rich. Thnx info. Some of us can purchase all of it with ease. Although with your cushion, I'm sure I could more deftly avoid the scorn of the non-gamer wife (not even a Wii interests her) and absorb the Tiffany's, Coach, and BCBG purchasing counter offensive. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: voodoolily on August 13, 2007, 11:44:20 AM We will be picking up Rune Factory tomorrow. Here's to hoping it's less tedious than Harvest Moon for the GBA.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 13, 2007, 11:46:35 AM Man, the people who can buy all these games ten times over, yet have no interest in about 90% of them must piss you chaps off. Not really. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 13, 2007, 12:01:24 PM Doesn't bother me. What other people do doesn't bother me unless it somehow affects me directly.
I could buy all those with no problem, and I probably will plus other things that sneak up on me, but I'm trying to be Responsible. The reason I decided not to buy any games until October, and this was back in May I guess, was because I paid $300 for a pair of sunglasses. They are pretty damn nice, but I wanted to do my part to not waste all of our money that might otherwise buy toys for the boy. It's also hard to get mad at other people for spending money on "silly things" when I'm buying video games. Also, I have spent well over $2000 on gaming hardware since last November... I guess that comes out to about £312.34 or so. I'm just feeling bad about it; I won't be sleeping in a cardboard box anytime soon. Still, it makes my ass pucker to spend lots of money. I didn't feel so bad that I included XBLA games in the ban, nor the GalCivII expansion. I had a $5 coupon for it, too. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Nonentity on August 13, 2007, 12:02:35 PM Man, the people who can buy all these games ten times over, yet have no interest in about 90% of them must piss you chaps off. Eh... I could buy them, but like Yego, I'm trying to remain remotely responsible. I'll only really buy a handful of them, even though I have interest in playing most of them. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Ironwood on August 13, 2007, 12:08:35 PM Whoa, that must have come out well wrong, since that wasn't the thrust of my point, to be honest. Of the list that Yeg put up, there's exactly ONE game on there that interests me.
I don't know whether that means I'm getting older and losing my game cred, or if Wow has affected and damaged the Game centers of the brain, whether my life is changing or whether BIOSHOCK OWNS ALL. "I am much richer than you's" wasn't the thrust. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 13, 2007, 12:13:49 PM Quote if Wow has affected and damaged the Game centers of the brain Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Rasix on August 13, 2007, 12:20:19 PM Wow has affected and damaged the Game centers of the brain. Winner. I tend to forget there's a beautiful world of gaming out there when I'm playing WoW. The amount of time, even if WoW requires less than most, to get to the good stuff leaves little time for much else when you've got a life and job. Now that I've been playing on my consoles (and bought the 360), I just can't even stomach DIKU style gameplay. I've yet to be able to play EQ2 for more than 30 minutes before I'm completely bored. Makes me wonder if I'll ever enjoy another MMO again, which is starting to sound better all of the time. Heck, I even downloaded Titan Quest + Immortal Throne and have been enjoying that. I wouldn't even look sideways at a Diablo clone during a WoW bender (CLICK CLICK CLICK still hurts my arm though, goddamn). Getting off the WoW opens yourself up to a much richer gaming experience. And, sorry if I misconstrued your statement. On a completely unrelated aside, Gatorade "Rain" is fucking disgusting. I'm not quite sure what they're trying to do with this beverage. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Ironwood on August 13, 2007, 12:47:21 PM I told myself it was just lack of time for a while. Then I would log on to WoW when Elena fell asleep and instance till bed.
Time to pick up a 360 and a copy of DR, I think. I'll go from there. (It's my Birthday on Sunday. Daddy's gonna treat himself, methinks.) Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Big Gulp on August 13, 2007, 12:54:50 PM Time to pick up a 360 and a copy of DR, I think. I'll go from there. Truthfully, I'd skip Dead Rising if I were you. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game, but it's effectively destroyed by Japanese masochistic bullshit. The time limit save system just kills any real enjoyment I got from the game, to the point where I just don't have the will to really dig deep into it. Of course, I'm the type of player who does not enjoy a challenge. I'm impatient, and don't enjoy frustration. All my games are set to easy, I play for love of the game, not to pull my fucking hair out. If I had to recommend some must own games for the 360 I'd say Gears of War, Forza 2, Fight Night Round 3, and possibly Guitar Hero 2 (although waiting for Rock Band is also an option). And then of course we've got the bounty of Bioshock, Mass Effect, etc on the horizon. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Morfiend on August 13, 2007, 12:56:04 PM I told myself it was just lack of time for a while. Then I would log on to WoW when Elena fell asleep and instance till bed. Time to pick up a 360 and a copy of DR, I think. I'll go from there. (It's my Birthday on Sunday. Daddy's gonna treat himself, methinks.) Sweet. Xbox Live has a serious shortage of crotchety scots. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: WayAbvPar on August 13, 2007, 01:03:04 PM Quote f I had to recommend some must own games for the 360 I'd say Gears of War, Forza 2, Fight Night Round 3, and possibly Guitar Hero 2 (although waiting for Rock Band is also an option). Substitute NCAA 08 for Gears of War and you named my entire 360 catalog so far! Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 13, 2007, 01:07:02 PM If you want to know how to make Dead Rising easy, I've got lumps of it 'round the back.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Riggswolfe on August 13, 2007, 01:20:21 PM Damn you Schild. I was already looking at alot of 360 games but now I find several PS2 games (besides Persona 3 which I'll pick up tomorrow). Growlanser for one. Maybe Suikoden assuming it is on PS2. (I didn't see it in that screenshot.)
Xbox Live has a serious shortage of crotchety scots. I read that as crotch shots for some reason. I was going to direct you where to find a few. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: caladein on August 13, 2007, 01:30:44 PM Wow, didn't realize that Jeanne D'Arc was coming out so soon. That new PSP design needs to drop fast or miss Joan of Arc is going to run right into FFT, and that's probably not good for her or my GPA.
The rest of my money sink is: Persona 3, Dragoneer's Aria, GW: EN, ET: QuakeWars, FFT, and HL2: Ep2. Bioshock is a maybe, simply because I'm absolutely horrible at finishing FPSs' single player. Six to eight games and a PSP, I'm fucked. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Ironwood on August 13, 2007, 02:14:44 PM I used to pop onto the f13 TS server. Always Tumbleweed.
I suspect the Live Community might be similarly aggrieved with the Time Zones. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Merusk on August 13, 2007, 03:13:48 PM Oddly, consoles bore the shit out of me in the way you all describe MMOGs. Two games on that list look interesting to me, but since I don't own, nor have the desire to own, a PSP, there goes that.
Of course, I also feel that games are a waste of my money if I don't get at least 70+ hours out of them. Go figure. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Hokers on August 13, 2007, 03:37:48 PM No Two Worlds? Am I the only one that is going to give that one a try? Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Fabricated on August 13, 2007, 03:38:15 PM Holy shit I see games I may actually buy on there. Hmmm, another Mana title for the DS? Will it inevitably suck like every Mana title after the first SNES title?
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Rasix on August 13, 2007, 03:40:59 PM Of course, I also feel that games are a waste of my money if I don't get at least 70+ hours out of them. Go figure. Play the Dragon Quest series. Each game is easily 70-80 hours plus and you get to grind before you're powerful enough to defeat even the first sub-boss. Game length for me is a lot like movie length. Really long and really short are just fine as long as there isn't a lot of stalling or a "skip to the end" moment. A well done 8 hour game can even be worth the 50-60 dollars you pay for it, although some of those slip into the "rip off" category. Only games I have reservations about their length in my upcoming list may be Blue Dragon, which I feel will feel too long, and Stranglehold, which I'll probably beat in a few sessions. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Rasix on August 13, 2007, 03:42:19 PM No Two Worlds? Am I the only one that is going to give that one a try? Quote from: schild It's been out for months and months in Europe. Not a single nice word has been said about it. Hell, even their promotional videos perform for shit. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Rasix on August 13, 2007, 03:51:22 PM Truthfully, I'd skip Dead Rising if I were you. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game, but it's effectively destroyed by Japanese masochistic bullshit. The time limit save system just kills any real enjoyment I got from the game, to the point where I just don't have the will to really dig deep into it. Of course, I'm the type of player who does not enjoy a challenge. I'm impatient, and don't enjoy frustration. All my games are set to easy, I play for love of the game, not to pull my fucking hair out. The game is pretty easy outside of a few of the psycho battles, which are mainly bullshit. There's an easy strategy though: stock up on shotguns and lead pipes. Anything you can close to melee on goes down easy with a lead pipe and everything else has little counters to the shotgun. The fights that don't fit into this category can be cheesed with LOS. There's one surefire, can't loose attitude to having fun with Dead Rising. People are going to die in a zombie apocalypse. Too bad for them. That and.. you can always just ignore the plot and kill zombies. Forza 2 is an absolute can't miss though. I don't think I've heard anyone not like that game yet. Edit. Uggg. Hat trick. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Signe on August 13, 2007, 04:59:17 PM I have to be honest. The fact that other people are having fun with stuff I don't have seriously pisses me off. It takes every bit of will power I have not to buy every single thing I see. I only stop myself in the hopes that some day I will develop character. Really. I'm not lying.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Murgos on August 13, 2007, 07:08:36 PM Oh, you're a character alright.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Merusk on August 13, 2007, 07:22:54 PM Of course, I also feel that games are a waste of my money if I don't get at least 70+ hours out of them. Go figure. Play the Dragon Quest series. Each game is easily 70-80 hours plus and you get to grind before you're powerful enough to defeat even the first sub-boss. Game length for me is a lot like movie length. Really long and really short are just fine as long as there isn't a lot of stalling or a "skip to the end" moment. A well done 8 hour game can even be worth the 50-60 dollars you pay for it, although some of those slip into the "rip off" category. Only games I have reservations about their length in my upcoming list may be Blue Dragon, which I feel will feel too long, and Stranglehold, which I'll probably beat in a few sessions. Yeah I've been working through DQ8 off and on. The problem there is I haven't hooked the PS2 up to my PC monitor so I can watch TV and game like I can while on the pc. I was doing good on FF12, too, until I got enough slots to make the game play itself. It got pretty damn boring after that. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: MrHat on August 14, 2007, 04:35:22 AM It's also hard to get mad at other people for spending money on "silly things" when I'm buying video games. Hehe. I use that to my advantage by trying to get the wife to buy silly things so I don't feel guilty for buying video games that I don't finish/play more than 2 hours. It's a vicious cycle of spending. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 14, 2007, 10:30:30 AM Of course, I also feel that games are a waste of my money if I don't get at least 70+ hours out of them. Go figure. Okami. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: voodoolily on August 14, 2007, 12:15:25 PM Heh, I booted it back up for the first time since getting the Wii and my old file has 73 hours logged. I haven't even finished the last level yet! I ended up starting a new game just so I could make the trees bloom and feed the animals without grinding to get 100% on every species.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Morfiend on August 14, 2007, 12:19:04 PM No Two Worlds? Am I the only one that is going to give that one a try? Quote from: schild It's been out for months and months in Europe. Not a single nice word has been said about it. Hell, even their promotional videos perform for shit. Since when has schild been a barometer for what most of us find fun. The game could suck, but im just saying. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Velorath on August 14, 2007, 12:28:47 PM No Two Worlds? Am I the only one that is going to give that one a try? Quote from: schild It's been out for months and months in Europe. Not a single nice word has been said about it. Hell, even their promotional videos perform for shit. Since when has schild been a barometer for what most of us find fun. The game could suck, but im just saying. Besides that, I think the game has only been released in Germany so far (at the beginning of May, and only on the PC). I still expect the game to be shit mind you. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 14, 2007, 12:31:29 PM Since when has schild been a barometer for what most of us find fun. The game could suck, but im just saying. Yea, I'm so often wrong about games. Go ahead, buy it. Reap what you sow, nonbeliever. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Rasix on August 14, 2007, 12:38:34 PM He may have views on the industry as a whole that many do not agree with here, but the man has excellent taste in games for the most part (I disagree on most genres that I dislike anyhow). And he's talking about what OTHER people are saying about it.
Go look around, I've yet to find much positive that's being said about this game. The one positive review (http://www.fragland.net/reviews.php?id=1044)I've seen reads like a 10 year old's book report. The person writing that is either borderline retarded or 12. From all accounts, it sounds like a generic, derivative hunk of crap with technical problems up the wazoo and terrible controls. Edit: Why settle for something like Two Worlds when there's such a bounty at hand? The days of scrapping for decent games on the 360 are over. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Morfiend on August 14, 2007, 01:06:47 PM The one positive review (http://www.fragland.net/reviews.php?id=1044)I've seen reads like a 10 year old's book report. Im not saying this game is going to be good. I have no experience with it whatsoever. Yeah, that review was ether written by a retard, or more likely, since the game has only been released in Europe, im going to assume that is was some one that was ESL writing it, or it was translated to english. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 14, 2007, 01:19:15 PM I'm trying to remember when I was wrong about a game last.
Most people would bring up WoW, but they'd be wrong. They just don't agree with me... yet. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Sky on August 14, 2007, 01:57:00 PM Bioshock. Maybe the Holmes game if it turns out ok.
More money for beer. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: HaemishM on August 14, 2007, 02:45:05 PM I'm trying to remember when I was wrong about a game last. Killer 7. EDIT: And since that one's so subjective, SWG NGE. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 14, 2007, 02:48:15 PM I thought schild liked Killer7.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 14, 2007, 03:23:21 PM I was wrong about Killer 7?
What? How? Huh? I had caveats in my SW:G review. They were never met. Therefore it is shite. You can't blame me for not delivering. See the rant from a few days ago. I told SOE that it needed CD and would run like shit. I was right. Edit: Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh. I think Haem means I "loved it" while he "hated it." I'm not asking anyone to pick sides or anything, but comeon, Haem, Dragonball Wii and Red Steel. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Hokers on August 14, 2007, 10:34:19 PM Quote Why settle for something like Two Worlds when there's such a bounty at hand? The days of scrapping for decent games on the 360 are over. The lack of any games for the 360 (and consoles in general) that allow me to run around with my buddy smacking things around in a fantasy setting has me grasping for anything. What I really want is co-op Elder Scrolls. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Velorath on August 14, 2007, 11:29:53 PM I'm trying to remember when I was wrong about a game last. Most people would bring up WoW, but they'd be wrong. They just don't agree with me... yet. I'm sure many would consider you wrong about LoZ:TP, a game which was well received by most, but somehow was one of the main factors in your boycott of first party Nintendo console games. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 14, 2007, 11:40:33 PM Though I may have thrown the blame on TP for really tipping me over the edge, it's really the Wii's fault in general. TP was just an (imo) uninspired Zelda that gave me no reason to play it. And the mishandling of the Gamecube port just fueled the fire. Remember, I bought TP twice, only to be fucked by one and donkeypunched by the other. Wii Fit put the final nails in that coffin though.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Hayduke on August 15, 2007, 03:01:58 AM I don't know whether that means I'm getting older and losing my game cred, or if Wow has affected and damaged the Game centers of the brain, whether my life is changing or whether BIOSHOCK OWNS ALL. I know the feeling. It's a little depressing to look at all those games and not give a crap about almost all of them. I'm long off the WoW addiction, but actually I think it started a few years earlier anyway. WoW actually gave me more of a resurgent interest in gaming when I first got into it. But boy am I glad to be done with MMOs now. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Fabricated on August 15, 2007, 03:36:07 AM I'm trying to remember when I was wrong about a game last. 9-10 million people don't agree with you yet.Most people would bring up WoW, but they'd be wrong. They just don't agree with me... yet. Then again, I am increasingly bored to death by Twilight Princess and wondering why I spent the $50 on it. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 15, 2007, 07:27:05 AM I'll tell you why I don't like LoZ:TP. It's a base GC port to Wii. It also brings nothing new to the series aside from OOOH DARK. It smells of change-your-sequel-based-on-complainers-who-didn't-like-Wind-Waker and therefore belongs in the same category as Prince of Persia: Warrior Within. I played it for a while but I got bored with it, mostly because I have already played this game and its sequel. The Wiimote added to ranged attacks and menu navigation but otherwise didn't improve the control scheme much; mind you I do like the Wiimote when used properly. Waving it in random directions to perform a canned sword attack is not properly, in my opinion. TP is also exceedingly brown.
Wii Fit, to me, signaled the end of Nintendo's commitment to the gamers. Where goes Miyamoto, Nintendo follows. From here on out, it's Brain Age, Abdominal Age and Ass Age; you're looking at the new Bowflex. I suspect it will also have ads on SciFi in the same place as BowFlex does now, once BSG returns. I'm not angry at Nintendo, besides this isn't the first time they have shifted their core business; I bet there were plenty of sore yakuza that bitched about them not making playing cards in favor of those damn video games as well, in the hot baths instead of a web forum. However they don't appear to be making games for me anymore. For my wife and boy, yes, but not for me. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Montague on August 15, 2007, 10:06:09 AM Accidentally posted this in the Bioshock thread :-o
The wife let me get a 360 last night. Got Gears of War and Marvel Alliance. The missus wants an RPG that's not named Oblivion. Any suggestions? Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 15, 2007, 10:08:24 AM Accidentally posted this in the Bioshock thread :-o The wife let me get a 360 last night. Got Gears of War and Marvel Alliance. The missus wants an RPG that's not named Oblivion. Any suggestions? Yea, wait a couple weeks and get her Blue Dragon and/or Eternal Sonata. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: murdoc on August 15, 2007, 10:09:52 AM Accidentally posted this in the Bioshock thread :-o The wife let me get a 360 last night. Got Gears of War and Marvel Alliance. The missus wants an RPG that's not named Oblivion. Any suggestions? Yea, wait a couple weeks and get her Blue Dragon and/or Eternal Sonata. Better yet, wait for Eternal Sonata. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Mikafar on August 15, 2007, 10:26:37 AM <-- The wife
Perhaps something a little less anime-ish? Take it there's not much out there as of yet. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 15, 2007, 10:35:13 AM r u fem irl?
Really though, if you want a western RPG, your only options are Oblivion and uhhhhhghhhh Two Worlds. Honestly, neither is worth the time or money. Mass Effect maybe? I hear that's out soon. :P Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Mikafar on August 15, 2007, 10:38:26 AM Yes fem irl but happily married :-D
I might have to check out Oblivion. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: trotski on August 15, 2007, 11:22:04 AM Crap, I see at least five 360 games in OP's post that I almost forgot about. I'm just glad GTA got delayed till the spring. That's at least $60 I can spend on Christmas presents for the wife this year.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 15, 2007, 12:26:05 PM Just so you know, Mikafar, my wife was really into Oblivion. It actually caused her to stop playing The Sims for several weeks. I'd recommend it. Unless you already played it, then... uh... Eternal Sonata.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: HaemishM on August 15, 2007, 12:32:55 PM Killer 7 was a shit game that thought it was art. It was neither.
My reviews of Red Steel and Dragonball Z both state that I liked them, but didn't hail them as OMFGZ GREATEST EVAR! I loved Red Steel more than it probably deserved, because objectively the game was about a 75-79, but my enjoyment out of it was about a 90. DBZ 2 was fun as hell, but more work than I wanted to commit to, which is what I wrote in my review. SWG with twitch you said was fun that would be more fun with collision detection. It wasn't fun at all, even had they not put it out buggy as shit. I played it for 4 levels and was bored, and my leaving it alone had nothing to do with bugs, but boring gameplay. Twilight Princess you bought twice. Which means you were wrong even to your own opinions, TWICE. For $50 each. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 15, 2007, 12:36:37 PM Well, you're still wrong about Killer 7.
I don't know why you played SWG at all. I didn't. They never met my demands. Twilight Princess I got to return. Twice. For $50 each. But really: Quote I loved Red Steel more than it probably deserved, because objectively the game was about a 75-79, but my enjoyment out of it was about a 90. That says it all.Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: cmlancas on August 15, 2007, 12:39:04 PM SWG with twitch you said was fun that would be more fun with collision detection. Schild, I never knew that this is what you told me to stop :dead_horse: Now I get it. Sorry. Guess I missed that one when I was reading up on forum lore. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 15, 2007, 12:51:17 PM Killer7 would be so, so easy to port to Wii with success. I'd love to see that.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: murdoc on August 15, 2007, 01:24:43 PM I don't get the love for Killer7 at all. I didn't like that game one bit.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 15, 2007, 01:52:10 PM I don't fault anyone for not liking it, it was fucking weird. That was a big reason I liked it.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 15, 2007, 01:55:15 PM Style out the ass. The best use of the fucked up Gamecube face-button configuration Ever. Period. And, all things considered, a really kickass class system/character selection method and a reasonably well done fucked up story.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: lamaros on August 15, 2007, 10:13:50 PM I'm trying to remember when I was wrong about a game last. Most people would bring up WoW, but they'd be wrong. They just don't agree with me... yet. Diablo. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Ironwood on August 16, 2007, 02:24:56 AM Eh ?
What was the Schild opinion on Diablo ? Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: NowhereMan on August 16, 2007, 02:34:00 AM That he would kill his mother and anyone else close to hand if they'd put out another game with the ding ring noise from Diablo. Possibly that it's one of the most fun games of all time as well.
Though honestly I think Schild's position is more along the lines that he's never played a game and later completely changed his mind about how good it is. It's a subjective genre, imagine trying to find someone who could honestly say they feel they completely miosjudged a novel. It could happen but if someone's stubborn enough they can quite happily claim to have never misjudged a novel, it's just that other people disagree with them about it's worth. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: MrHat on August 16, 2007, 04:25:35 AM Wait, when's Mass Effect come out?
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Riggswolfe on August 16, 2007, 06:57:21 AM Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: HaemishM on August 16, 2007, 09:28:33 AM Well, you're still wrong about Killer 7. No, it was ass. All the style in the world couldn't save it from being a game with an obtuse interface that laughed at you for being so stupid like it was some beret-sporting art fag. It was an arrogant prick rubbing its balls in my face. Quote I don't know why you played SWG at all. I didn't. They never met my demands. Because it was free and I'd never played it before. You said it was fun even without collision detection, and it wasn't. Quote Twilight Princess I got to return. Twice. For $50 each. So you were wrong to buy it. Quote But really: Quote I loved Red Steel more than it probably deserved, because objectively the game was about a 75-79, but my enjoyment out of it was about a 90. That says it all.What does it say? That I can objectively evaluate a game's merits separated from my own prejudices? I loved the game, but could see why others didn't, because there were bugs, and it could have been a tighter game. But I still loved it, even though my review rated it in the 75-80 range. As per my review: Quote Overall, I stand by my estimation that the game deserves about a 7.5 - 8.0 rating. The short ending cuts it from a possible 8.5. It has multiplayer, but I never tried it since it is only splitscreen. The replay value of the game is very small. Your progress is marked in percentage points, but in order to get 100% (or more) you must complete the game on hardest difficulty and do everything right. I'm sure the game would lose its lustre, at least to me, before I could complete that lofty goal. And with no indication that such an achievement will have tangible rewards a la Resident Evil 4, replay value is almost nil. I ended up with approximately 10.5 hours of gameplay and my progress stopped at around 77%. I would suggest the game is a great rental or worthy of a half-price purchase unless you just have money to burn. It isn't like Red Steel was Far Cry, which was ass on a Wiimote stick. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 16, 2007, 09:46:22 AM No, it was ass. All the style in the world couldn't save it from being a game with an obtuse interface that laughed at you for being so stupid like it was some beret-sporting art fag. It was an arrogant prick rubbing its balls in my face. You stood still and shot things, where was the obtusivity? I'd compare it to an arcade rail shooter before I compared it to an art fag, but I'm thinking of the mechanics rather than the presentation. Killer7 wasn't perfect but I didn't think the controls were the issue. Unless "controls" means "c-stick", in which case I can kinda see that. But if the art direction turned you off, I can easily see that. It was like putting on a crazy-helmet. Surely, with complaints like yours, you can see where porting Killer7 to Wii would be a good move. Unless you were serious about how the game was laughing at you, in which case I think you might want to put down the Internet and make a phone call to a professional. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: HaemishM on August 16, 2007, 10:20:58 AM It left me stranded and completely unable to proceed within like 3 scene changes. None of the controls, weapons or powers seemed to make one goddamn bit of difference to beating some barely visible enemy in a garage. I assume it was a garage, it was hard to tell. The interface left me high and dry, without any context for what I'd done wrong, or how to proceed. So after about 30 minutes of banging my head into an invisible wall like a retarded mime, I decided the game didn't want me to play it.
I don't have time for deciphering obtuse interfaces. If I did, I'd be playing more shitty MMOG's. The art direction was actually intriguing. The concept was intriguing. The gameplay was shit. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: murdoc on August 16, 2007, 10:21:44 AM You stood still and shot things, where was the obtusivity? This is why I didn't like it, the gameplay was 'meh' as far as I was concerned, and the story was too weird for me to get into to want to keep play the 'meh' gameplay. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 16, 2007, 10:27:02 AM OK, those posts make plenty of sense.
Back to the thread topic, I called my GameSpot and he spent five minutes typing on a keyboard before telling me he only finds Persona 2. Double-you tee eff? Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 16, 2007, 10:32:12 AM It left me stranded and completely unable to proceed within like 3 scene changes. None of the controls, weapons or powers seemed to make one goddamn bit of difference to beating some barely visible enemy in a garage. I assume it was a garage, it was hard to tell. The interface left me high and dry, without any context for what I'd done wrong, or how to proceed. So after about 30 minutes of banging my head into an invisible wall like a retarded mime, I decided the game didn't want me to play it. I don't have time for deciphering obtuse interfaces. If I did, I'd be playing more shitty MMOG's. The art direction was actually intriguing. The concept was intriguing. The gameplay was shit. I played it in Japanese first so I had NO HELP. Press L Trigger to change vision to reveal Smiles. Shoot the Smile. Hold down R Trigger, Aim, Press A. If this was obtuse controls, arcade games must be fucking mindboggling. Also, the story was straight forward, unless you assumed Travis and the... fuck... can't remember his name, Iwazu? Iwataru? Shit. Anyway, they didn't tell you the story. Also, they were speaking english if you listened closely. Anyway, I've played confusing games at length. I've played games and play them constantly with more confusing controls. If anything, Killer 7 was too simplified in too many ways. - Yegolev, it's in their system under Shin Megami. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 16, 2007, 10:47:17 AM Yegolev, it's in their system under Shin Megami. Saved me some hassle, you did. You did not save the GS girl any hassle, but they do have it. As for Haem's post, I read that as "It was too hard" and I didn't think I should give him a hard time about it. I avoid plenty of games because of that. I probably shouldn't admit that is why I stopped playing Geist, rather than the fact it was incredibly shitty. In fact, it was shit-tay. Iwazaru. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Yegolev on August 16, 2007, 11:00:08 AM OH SHIT, turns out that Killer7 actually did laugh at you when enemies showed up. My bad, I totally forgot.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: HaemishM on August 16, 2007, 11:16:43 AM It wasn't just the "too hard" part, it was hard in completely non-intuitive ways, and didn't even pretend at any handholding. It felt like the game wanted me on my knees with cock in mouth before I'd even smelled the dinner at the restaurant. There was no context to grasp a hold of mentally. Learning how to play games is part of the fun, but there seemed to be none of that here. It was more like "boot to the head!" training for psychopaths. If I had nothing but time to do nothing but play games, MAYBE I'd have been rewarded by it, but the overall presentation wasn't interesting enough to make me put in that kind of effort. It was competing with wife-time, TV-time, and other game-time. It lost.
It certainly made me feel like I was walking around inside the greasy mind of the bugfuck insane. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: voodoolily on August 17, 2007, 09:20:51 AM Played Rune Factory for a few minutes (was waiting for nachos, and then they arrived). It has some of the same mechanics of HM for the GBA (e.g., clearing stones and weeds from your field before cultivating it), but you can hit monsters with your hoe. I hafta clear and plow my entire field before I can get the Cave Pass from the mayor or whatever.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: voodoolily on August 17, 2007, 09:21:47 AM It certainly made me feel like I was walking around inside the greasy mind of the bugfuck insane. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!! Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Murgos on August 17, 2007, 10:20:24 AM It certainly made me feel like I was walking around inside the greasy mind of the bugfuck insane. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!! Hahaha. But seriously, you have Nacho delivery? Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Ragnoros on August 17, 2007, 11:55:05 AM @ Montague. Mass Effect should be the RPG event of the year. Sadly November is a ways off.
Oblivion was enjoyable but nothing spectacular. I'd say it's worth a purchase for $30ish just to play around in. From the demos of Blue Dragon/Eternal Sonata I'm giving both a pass. Gameplay was formulaic and it was the usual J-drivel. I will say ES had some pretty backdrops tho. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Morfiend on August 17, 2007, 12:29:03 PM Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 17, 2007, 12:42:22 PM Less annoying than W-Blabber.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: voodoolily on August 17, 2007, 12:43:46 PM It certainly made me feel like I was walking around inside the greasy mind of the bugfuck insane. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!! Hahaha. But seriously, you have Nacho delivery? I WISH. Nah, I was at a pub. Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 29, 2007, 04:49:19 AM Ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck yea Warhawk. Picking it up after work today. :woot:
Also, Blue Dragon, Monster Hunter 2, DW Gundam, and Naruto PSP. Those last 4 will get like zero playtime for a while though... :cry2: Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Moaner on August 29, 2007, 05:06:06 AM I downloaded Warhawk last night. It is a lot better than what I had expected. Between it, Bioshock, and Persona 3 I am in gaming heaven. When I sat down in front of my TV this morning my head almost exploded trying to choose what to play.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: schild on August 29, 2007, 05:17:55 AM That's happening to me right now. But I end up playing Zombie Survival. Ugh.
Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: cmlancas on August 29, 2007, 10:33:33 AM Bioshock was the first game to chew through my new PC I built in November. 7900GS can't hack it widescreen unless it is at medium :/
Guess it's time to upgrade my other rig :) Title: Re: The Fall/Winter Flood or "Why I Have No Money" Post by: Rasix on September 02, 2007, 09:27:44 PM Just played the SKATE demo last night. Ugg, another game added to the list. That control scheme is just awesome fun.
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