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Title: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on June 30, 2007, 09:33:45 AM
2000 quid worth of improvements. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257194.stm)

How odd.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Etro on June 30, 2007, 09:54:32 AM
wee bit of sawdust and it will be right as reign


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Righ on June 30, 2007, 10:14:22 AM
Fuckers. Now I have to listen to Americans on CNN pronounce Glasgow and rhyme it with cow.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on June 30, 2007, 10:49:13 AM
Send them an E-mail and tell them that a similar thing happend in Milngavie.

Sure, it's not true, but it'll be funny as fuck.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Signe on June 30, 2007, 10:56:01 AM
Cops should have kissed the bastards really hard.  It makes me really nervous when people muck around with airports I actually have to use sometimes. 


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Merusk on June 30, 2007, 12:52:30 PM
Can't flip past a news station without hearing about terrorist attacks on the UK and what it means for the US.  Are we safe? No, and here's 300 talking heads to tell us we're all going to die!

Wheee.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on June 30, 2007, 01:03:45 PM
As a resident of Edinburgh, I fully endorse this act of terrorism.

The incompetence of this and the last tranche of attacks is staggering, though: let's just stick lots of things that burn together and they'll surely make an even bigger bang!  I expect the next attack will feature a car packed with firelighters, wood, coal and diesel.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Oban on June 30, 2007, 02:47:38 PM
As a resident of Edinburgh, I fully endorse this act of terrorism.

The incompetence of this and the last tranche of attacks is staggering, though: let's just stick lots of things that burn together and they'll surely make an even bigger bang!  I expect the next attack will feature a car packed with firelighters, wood, coal and diesel.

Ah yes, I can see it now...

Brother, have you ever seen what a single Mento does to a 2 liter bottle of Pepsi?  Now, imagine what a whole truck full of Mentos and Pepsi bottles would do!


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Signe on June 30, 2007, 02:55:36 PM
I have a craving for pop rocks and coke, now.  Not a craving I can satisfy, either.   :|


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Tale on June 30, 2007, 03:09:38 PM
At least we can have confidence that Glasgow's underground rail system is well prepared for emergencies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f23s4Xbqnek).

But on a serious note - reports are now saying there were three people in the car, one of whom was dead inside it, and one of whom was on fire when he got out. He was apparently wearing some kind of device. An eyewitness I heard on radio thought Molotov cocktails may have been involved. So it sounds like they had an accident with their arsenal while trying to attack the airport, killing one and setting another alight, weakening their attack. Doesn't sound like they were intending the "stuff that burns" to be a car bomb, probably more like three guys throwing Molotov cocktails around the terminal.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Righ on June 30, 2007, 04:55:40 PM
Send them an E-mail and tell them that a similar thing happend in Milngavie.

Sure, it's not true, but it'll be funny as fuck.

Excellent idea.  :-D Perhaps we could start a campaign and have them talk about Culzean, Strathaven, Anstruther and Kirkcudbright too.

Tale - nice movie. Here's the old subway in pictures (http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1057&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0), before it became the clockwork orange.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: schild on June 30, 2007, 07:25:03 PM
I've never heard anyone say Glasgow with the emphasis on the gow part.

But then, I don't watch the news.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Strazos on June 30, 2007, 10:37:33 PM
I thought it was GLASZ-go


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Samwise on June 30, 2007, 11:31:06 PM
Just imagine Groundskeeper Willie saying it.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 01, 2007, 01:47:36 AM
Just imagine Groundskeeper Willie saying it.

Groundskeeper Willie is - and I am pretty serious here - a brilliant character to have as our representative in popular culture.  He saves classes of schoolchildren by ripping off his top and wrestling lions into submission.  He doesn't wander round in a methadone haze (for all that the drug thing did no harm to Ewan MacGregor) nor is he often seen drunk and begging for change in Kings Cross station.  We should be paying Matt Groening a stipend from the tourist board.

And in comedy-pronounced-by-foreigners place names we are small-fry compared with Wales.  Machrihanish is as a mere bagatelle to a people who call their towns Llanymddyfri and Ystradgynlais.  That's why Wales has never been, nor will it ever be, attacked by Al Quaida.  They would never be able to agree on where the left the cache of arms.  Which is a shame, as it would finally garner them some mainstream popularity in middle-classed England.  Boom-tish.

I await Draconian's rebuttal.  Maybe in his weird moon-language.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Oban on July 01, 2007, 05:13:47 AM
I still laugh when I think about the conductor on the local train from Glasgow saying Troon in his thick accent. 



Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Simond on July 02, 2007, 04:11:26 AM
I'm surprised anyone noticed one more burning car on the streets of Glasgow, tbh. :-P



Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Yegolev on July 02, 2007, 07:18:25 AM
The article doesn't explain what the point to blowing up the Glasgow airport would be.  I suspect Chinese Fire Drill gone horribry wrong.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on July 02, 2007, 07:24:54 AM
Clearly to prevent my brother from returning home from Canada.

Alas, it didn't work.  He got in this morning, delayed and annoyed, but whole.

Try harder pls.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Righ on July 02, 2007, 07:52:58 AM
The article doesn't explain what the point to blowing up the Glasgow airport would be.  I suspect Chinese Fire Drill gone horribry wrong.

With UK prices being what they are, they probably didn't have enough petrol money to send the car all the way to London. They'd have attacked the local Paisley industry, but decided that it was doing just fine destroying itself.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Triforcer on July 02, 2007, 10:50:43 AM
I'm always thankful that in "most" terrorist attacks in the West, the perpetrators are the kids that ate their own boogers in the corner of the madrassa while even the other fanatics called them losers. 


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Sky on July 02, 2007, 12:32:05 PM
Glass goo?


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Furiously on July 02, 2007, 01:48:33 PM
I was more of a Glues go.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Krakrok on July 02, 2007, 02:55:43 PM
Interesting opinion piece (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770) from an 'ex-fanatic'.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Stephen Zepp on July 02, 2007, 07:18:08 PM
Interesting opinion piece (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770) from an 'ex-fanatic'.

Nice find.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Righ on July 02, 2007, 09:50:28 PM
Nice name. He writes well, which I suppose is to be expected since in his former role he was allegedly a recruiter and propagandist rather than a foot soldier. His story has taken quite a few turns over the years (his utterances are easy to find... nice name), and skeptics might suppose that he's actually an attention seeker looking for an audience. However, its equally likely that he was offered a deal for his continued freedom.

However, I did find this interesting piece - an excerpt from a New Statesman (left wing rag that has become mere regurgitation of New Labour talking points under its most recent editor) article:

Quote
Yet British Islamists target other countries. Why? According to Sifaoui, it has long been recognised by the British Islamists, by the British government and by UK intelligence agencies, that as long as Britain guarantees a degree of freedom to the likes of Hassan Butt, the terrorist strikes will continue to be planned within the borders of the UK but will not occur here. (http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1121086950.shtml)

So the coincidence of Islamic bombings in Britain and Hassan Butt telling Islamic terrorists to lay down their arms may be connected on more than one level.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on July 03, 2007, 12:47:56 AM
I wish people would stop calling it a terror attack.  We've been more scared of a bunch of harcore Springburn neds on a Saturday night.  Two guys who manage to Ghandi themselves do not really cut the mustard.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 03, 2007, 02:06:54 AM
I wish people would stop calling it a terror attack.  We've been more scared of a bunch of harcore Springburn neds on a Saturday night.  Two guys who manage to Ghandi themselves do not really cut the mustard.

This.  I mean, I don't know if you got the interviews with bystanders outside of Scotland, or if they were meaningless without subtitles, but the reaction of those nearby was a mixture of "git the cunt!" and "film wur man gittin' the cunt!"  There was a multi-car pile-up in south-east England at about the same time, in which one person was killed and a couple of dozen injured, and one of my mates immediately pointed out that that mattered more than some incompetent twat parking badly, setting his hair on fire and geting punched a bit.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on July 03, 2007, 03:05:00 AM
E-Mail already doing the rounds of Scottish Businesses :

Glasgow v America

 If this had happened in a US airport, compared to Glasgow

Eyewitness accounts.

 
America: "Oh my God! There was a man on fire, he was running about,  i just ran for my life. I thought i was gonna die, he got so close to me"

Glasgow "C*nt wis running aboot on fire, so a ran up n gave him a good boot, then decked him"

 
America: " I just wanna get home, away from here. I just wanna get home, I thought i was gonna die"

Glasgow: " here shug, am no leaving here till am oan a f*ckin'  plane!"

 
America: " there was pandemonium, people were running in all directions, we didn't know what was happening thought i was gonna die"

Glasgow :"F*ck this fir a kerry oan, moan we ll get a pint in"

 
America: " We thought he was gonna blow us all up he had a gas canister, and was trying to get into his trunk, I thought we were gonna die, I just ran for my life"

Glasgow :"a swaggered by the motor that wis on fire, and the dafty couldnae even open his boot, he wis in fire annaw so a ran up n gave him a good boot to the baws"

 
America: there was this huge explosion, it sounded like war, I thought i was gonna die"

Glasgow: " There wis a bang, yi know when yi throw BO basher intae a fire it wis like that"

 
America: " I'm too traumatized even to speak, I thought i was gonna die"

Glasgow "here mate, gies 2 minutes till a phone ma auld dear, if am gonna be oan the telly a want her tae tape it"

 

& finally, two quotes from an eye-witness.........john smeaton (these are real)

John just surpassed himself on the National ITV new.

The interviewer asked

"What message do you have for the bombers" - he replied "This is Glasgow we'll just set about you"

John done an interview on cnn and they asked how he restrained the guy and he said "me and other folk were just tryin 2 get the boot in and some other guy banjoed him" !


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Luxor on July 03, 2007, 03:08:48 AM
Did you see the baggage handler guy interviewed by the media about the attacks? 'This is Glasgow, we'll set about ye'

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cCqprbH7mrg&NR=1

be interested to know if any of our american friends can understand a word he says :)


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on July 03, 2007, 03:11:16 AM
Indeed, He's mentioned above.

The Man In Question. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6262266.stm)

I understand that CNN subtitled the interview.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 03, 2007, 04:19:43 AM
The Smeatmeister has his own fan website (http://johnsmeaton.com/) already.

Quote
"As I steered the JohnSmeaton.com close support vehicle off the M8, I was greeted by the sight of the Holiday Inn. It might look like a shitey concrete block to you, but to the Smeatonator it’s gonna be like Sodom and Gomorrah in there – especially given how many ladies are now popping a pint behind the bar for their hero."


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on July 03, 2007, 05:47:09 AM
Heh.


On a not so funny note, there are semiautomatic weapons in Glasgow Queen Street.  Sure, they're in the hands of the Police, but I saw a couple of Brazilian Electricians looking apprehensive.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Luxor on July 03, 2007, 06:14:40 AM
Think we could slip the cops a tenner and they can take out the emo goths on the gallery/borders steps?


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Engels on July 03, 2007, 08:03:41 AM
Hadrian's wall was built for a reason. To keep you motherf*ckers contained. Some of you did manage to escape to America, where you quickly reverted to slightly modified habits, such as road-kill cuisine, moonshine distilleries and the WWF.  :-D


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Righ on July 03, 2007, 08:11:13 AM
Terror in Glasgow is going in the wrong gate for an old firm match.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 03, 2007, 08:15:14 AM
Hadrian's wall was built for a reason. To keep you motherf*ckers contained. Some of you did manage to escape to America, where you quickly reverted to slightly modified habits, such as road-kill cuisine, moonshine distilleries and the WWF.  :-D

Yes, but remember that our genius was to regulate and systematize the whole thing by inventing the KKK.  But then we invented everything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csCexYYUhow).

And while we're at it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W-tX_Bjbo0).


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: DraconianOne on July 03, 2007, 08:54:05 AM
I await Draconian's rebuttal.  Maybe in his weird moon-language.

Eich mam yn arogleuo fel elderberries ac eich tad yn hamster!


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Righ on July 03, 2007, 09:00:08 AM
But then we invented everything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csCexYYUhow).

http://www.amazon.com/How-Scots-Invented-Modern-World/dp/0609606352


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Lantyssa on July 03, 2007, 09:26:43 AM
be interested to know if any of our american friends can understand a word he says :)
A few words were hard to make out, but I had more difficulty with my normal hearing issues than the accent.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Yegolev on July 03, 2007, 09:54:31 AM
be interested to know if any of our american friends can understand a word he says :)

I got about 90% of it, actually, but I'm from one of those places in America that Engels alluded to.  And Armstrong as well.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 03, 2007, 10:01:46 AM
But then we invented everything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csCexYYUhow).

http://www.amazon.com/How-Scots-Invented-Modern-World/dp/0609606352

I own not one but two copies of that.  Each given to me by the same person on succeeding birthdays.  I guess he really thought I should read it.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Righ on July 03, 2007, 12:23:23 PM
Either that or he inhales.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Strazos on July 03, 2007, 07:41:00 PM
I'll agree with Ironwood's email. When your Tube got bombed, people just went about their business.

Though having to traverse a huge chunk of Greater London and such on foot can be a bit tiring.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Righ on July 03, 2007, 08:09:59 PM
When I used to commute to London from Portsmouth, I found it more tiring to use the tube. I regularly got off at Waterloo and walked into the city. Took longer, but I arrived less stressed. Also, its quite a nice walk, just 1-2 miles depending on where the particular gig was.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Strazos on July 03, 2007, 09:17:55 PM
Oh yes, it's definitely nice to walk around. The loss of Tourism Time, spent just walking from place to place, was the most annoying part.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 04, 2007, 01:21:56 AM
Does anyone seriously believe that John Smeaton's single-handed dismantling of the terrorist threat to the UK is unrelated to the release, three days later, of Scottish BBC journalist Alan Johnston (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6267928.stm) in Gaza?  I think somebody worked out that they had a tiger by the tail: "In the name of Allah the Merciful, the Just, the Vaguely Inclined Towards Suicide Bombings, why did nobody tell us he was a Scot?"

I imagine that they filed sheepishly into his room, shuffled a bit, declared their surprise that Alan had somehow caught his wrist on the radiator-handcuff while constantly referring to him as "Mr MacJohnston Sir", muttered that their only demand had been that England hand back the 1966 world cup and immediately release all Scottish jakeys arrested for begging at Kings Cross, then gave him a big present and sent him on his way.


Edit... Exercise: conjugate the third person imperfect tense of the transitive verb "To give".


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on July 04, 2007, 01:37:34 AM
 :-D


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Righ on July 04, 2007, 03:12:16 AM
Does anyone seriously believe that John Smeaton's single-handed dismantling of the terrorist threat to the UK is unrelated to the release, three days later, of Scottish BBC journalist Alan Johnston (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6267928.stm) in Gaza?  I think somebody worked out that they had a tiger by the tail: "In the name of Allah the Merciful, the Just, the Vaguely Inclined Towards Suicide Bombings, why did nobody tell us he was a Scot?"

I imagine that they filed sheepishly into his room, shuffled a bit, declared their surprise that Alan had somehow caught his wrist on the radiator-handcuff while constantly referring to him as "Mr MacJohnston Sir", muttered that their only demand had been that England hand back the 1966 world cup and immediately release all Scottish jakeys arrested for begging at Kings Cross, then gave him a big present and sent him on his way.

Too good for here. Send that to Private Eye.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on July 04, 2007, 03:34:05 AM
Agreed.  It's already doing the rounds of some of the finest minds in Scotland via the magic of SMTP.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 04, 2007, 03:45:28 AM
God, and I used "given" when I should have used "gave".

I'll post it on my blog.  Saves me writing any new stuff today.  Fuck knows why I blog when I hate, you know, blogging.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on July 04, 2007, 03:52:13 AM
You have a blog ?


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 04, 2007, 03:57:02 AM
That little picture of a world under my avatar picture.  I should do what Haemish does and put it in my sig: why indulge in the narcissism of blogging and hide the resulting light under a 4-by-4 pixel bushel?


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on July 04, 2007, 05:01:26 AM
God, and I used "given" when I should have used "gave".

I'll post it on my blog.  Saves me writing any new stuff today.  Fuck knows why I blog when I hate, you know, blogging.

I can now answer this question :  It would appear to be due to EVE.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 04, 2007, 05:54:24 AM
Yeah, that's unrepresentative, though: but I was getting 4000 hits per posting so i thought I should give 'em what they want  :-P  I'm pretty much through that phase.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Yegolev on July 05, 2007, 10:14:57 AM
Do you hate blogging due to the horrible spelling often found in them?


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 05, 2007, 10:19:46 AM
Is my spelling horrible on there right now?  I tend to type more quickly than I am capable of, and am guilty of reversing or omitting characters, especially when tired.  I tend to go back later and fix all the typos, too.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Yegolev on July 05, 2007, 10:36:11 AM
I can't be sure, I stopped reading at "beaurocracy".


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Daeven on July 05, 2007, 08:35:35 PM
Just imagine Groundskeeper Willie saying it.

Groundskeeper Willie is - and I am pretty serious here - a brilliant character to have as our representative in popular culture.  He saves classes of schoolchildren by ripping off his top and wrestling lions into submission.  He doesn't wander round in a methadone haze (for all that the drug thing did no harm to Ewan MacGregor) nor is he often seen drunk and begging for change in Kings Cross station.  We should be paying Matt Groening a stipend from the tourist board.

And in comedy-pronounced-by-foreigners place names we are small-fry compared with Wales.  Machrihanish is as a mere bagatelle to a people who call their towns Llanymddyfri and Ystradgynlais.  That's why Wales has never been, nor will it ever be, attacked by Al Quaida.  They would never be able to agree on where the left the cache of arms.  Which is a shame, as it would finally garner them some mainstream popularity in middle-classed England.  Boom-tish.

I await Draconian's rebuttal.  Maybe in his weird moon-language.

Hell. People replace Oregon with Or-e-GONE all the damn time. I can't imagine what they'd do with that Welsh gibberish.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 06, 2007, 11:44:04 AM
I can't be sure, I stopped reading at "beaurocracy".

I don't know what it is about that bloody word.  When not betrayed by my keyboard and haste, I can spell at spelling-bee-champion level in English and French, and I'm not bad in German or Latin, either.  But I keep wanting to put a "beau" prefix in bureaucracy.  I remember thinking "check it" as I wrote that sentence.  But laziness got the better of me.  Restaurant used to trouble me, too.  Damnable French vowel forms.

If, however, someone doesn't read what I've written because of one spelling error, I'll hardly miss their pedantry.  English has always been a fluid language, with standardised spelling a product largely of the last couple of centuries, and still prone to shifts.  Americans can't spell honour, colour or rigour.  But I often enjoy reading what they write, anyway.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Lantyssa on July 06, 2007, 12:38:09 PM
lern 2 writ noob!


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Sky on July 09, 2007, 07:03:49 AM
AO taught me how to spell bureaucrat correctly. Too bad that actual class implementation sucked. Lumcorp ftw!


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Yegolev on July 09, 2007, 11:56:46 AM
If, however, someone doesn't read what I've written because of one spelling error, I'll hardly miss their pedantry.  English has always been a fluid language, with standardised spelling a product largely of the last couple of centuries, and still prone to shifts.  Americans can't spell honour, colour or rigour.  But I often enjoy reading what they write, anyway.

I believe it was President Andrew Jackson that said something about it being a poor man that cannot spell a word multiple ways.  In reality, as long as I know what you are talking about then I'm cool, but it is a lot of fun to pester people about spelling and grammar.  It means I have to be very careful, though, and it's even worse since I have a terrible time communicating properly in spoken English.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 09, 2007, 01:46:24 PM
I believe it was President Andrew Jackson that said something about it being a poor man that cannot spell a word multiple ways.  In reality, as long as I know what you are talking about then I'm cool, but it is a lot of fun to pester people about spelling and grammar.  It means I have to be very careful, though, and it's even worse since I have a terrible time communicating properly in spoken English.

Oh, believe me, my first response was to start analysing your post-history for spelling issues and dangling participles.  Then I remembered what my old grandmother always said to me:  "Keith, stop being such a dick."


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Ironwood on July 09, 2007, 01:48:09 PM
If only she'd ever met Mr Chegwin.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Yegolev on July 09, 2007, 01:53:10 PM
My use of commas is shaky, and my understanding of phrases is limited.  Use that as you will.


Title: Re: Glasgow Renovations
Post by: Endie on July 09, 2007, 01:55:01 PM
If only she'd ever met Mr Chegwin.


Or Mr Harris and his homunculus, Orville.  The late 70s were a bad time to be a Keith in Britain.