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palmer_eldritch
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Yes, but he's a wizard with a magical blue box that can violate causality (except for when it can't. Plus the times where it shouldn't be able to, but suddenly is, because reasons. Also, SHUT UP.)
None of which is a problem, except when it becomes the focus of the show:)
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Simond
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I get the impression that no one currently involved feels bound by anything so prosaic as established continuity and so they just make it up as they go along.
I think Moffat should have stuck to this continuity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-wDPoC6GM
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Khaldun
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Yes, one gets the impression, putting everything together, that both The Doctor and the Timelords were forced into being very, very, very bad bastards.
I always got the impression that the Timelords themselves kind of lost the plot and started sacrificing people out of expediency rather than necessity. As such, the Doctor took them out with the Daleks to save more people - i.e. what he always does, just harder, more brutally and to his own people. That's one of the reasons I hated them giving him that out in Day of the Doctor. Nothing he did in the Time War was out of character - just out of the normal scale of things he's used to. I think of things like what he did to the Family as an example. Yes. I honestly preferred this sense, reinforced by some of the lines in The End of Time Part 2, that the Time Lords had completely lost any relative benevolence and had become as dangerous and morally vacant as the Daleks, so the Doctor did what he had to do in order to save everything. It's not even inconsistent with being a Doctor, e.g., a healer. Healers sometimes amputate if it's the only way to save a patient's life.
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Ironwood
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Rewatching Eccleston and it's just a polar opposite. He was a bad bastard tho.
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Simond
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Eccles is too busy starring in GI Joe films to come back to Doctor Who though.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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Eccles is too busy starring in GI Joe films to come back to Doctor Who though.
I believe there was more to it than that...
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Threash
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He actually wanted to chose the director for the 50th anniversary special to be on it. As much as i wanted to see him there that was simply an idiotic request.
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HaemishM
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That meant he really didn't want to fucking do it, because he felt like he'd been fucked over by many of the other directors on the show in his time there and wasn't about to step back into the role unless the producers showed they wanted to be accommodating of his past issues. He's clearly stated in the past that the role wasn't the problem, the showrunners were.
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palmer_eldritch
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New series trailer. 30 seconds long, contains a few mild spoilers and you probably shouldn't watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Fhr-HapZEThe new series starts on August 23. I'm surprised Ironwood hasn't resurrected this thread yet. The BBC have been hyping it up by showing the first episode to selected journalists, and it's had very good reviews. The first episode is 80 minutes long (without adverts of course).
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Merusk
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Saw a report this weekend about Moffat wanting to muck around with a Who/ Sherlock cross-over.
So someone in the UK stop his reign of terror before it starts.
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Soulflame
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First off, we need a madman with a magic box...
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Ironwood
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I'm surprised Ironwood hasn't resurrected this thread yet.
I shall, of course, watch it in hope. As far as I can tell, the look and feel of Capaldi is top notch, but what hope can I have if the scripts are just the same as the last couples of seasons ?
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HaemishM
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^ THIS. ^
I'm not exactly hate-watching it because let's face it, I'd watch it just for Hot Companion and Peter Capaldi. If the scripts don't improve, it'll be just like Smith's run - well-acted, well-shot trash that continually makes me go BWAWHU?
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Surlyboi
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Here's my take, Smith let the Moffatry happen because he was young and eager and, "Holy shit, I'm Doctor Who!"
Capaldi will have less of that because he's fucking Capaldi. At least, that's my hope.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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Here's my take, Smith let the Moffatry happen because he was young and eager and, "Holy shit, I'm Doctor Who!"
Capaldi will have less of that because he's fucking Capaldi. At least, that's my hope.
Well Capaldi should be familiar with the show enough to know when to raise the eyebrow.
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Lakov_Sanite
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Capaldi eyebrows are already stuff of legend, add doctor gravitas to it and I am unsure if the earth can handle it.
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Ironwood
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I wish, I wish, I wish I had your hope.
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Khaldun
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I still think you guys are overly hard on the show under Moffat, but I do hope he restrains some of his own wretched tendencies, and I do hope that he hands off the reins to someone else while Capaldi is still in the role.
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Surlyboi
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I'm seeing the season premiere tomorrow night with Capaldi and Coleman. If I get to actually talk to him, I'll tell him to kill Moffat in his sleep.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Ironwood
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You're what with the who now ?
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Merusk
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He's namedropping again, just nod and move on.
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Surlyboi
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I am indeed namedropping. It's one of the perks of being me. That said, it'll be a few hundred other people too, so I probably won't be able to get a question in. edit: I gave my tickets to a couple of people that would've geeked out on the experience bigger than me. They instagrammed selfies with Capaldi and a cyberman. And then there was the lone shot of Moffat. Damn me for being a good guy. I could've ended the Moffatry once and for all.
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« Last Edit: August 14, 2014, 06:46:28 PM by Surlyboi »
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Lakov_Sanite
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Pics or it didn't happen.
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Surlyboi
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Heh, Moffat's looking up Jenna's dress.
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« Last Edit: August 14, 2014, 07:36:22 PM by Surlyboi »
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Lakov_Sanite
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Poor girl can't afford shoes that fit.
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Ironwood
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Glad I'm not the only one that noticed that.
I just want the caption on that last picture to be 'Take The Shot !!!'
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Signe
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You're not. It's actually the first thing I noticed. Geez, they look painful, too.
As much as I like Peter Capaldi (The Thick of It was one of my fav programs... except for the YEARS in between seasons), I'm not sure even he can convince me to watch Dr. Who. He's in that new Musketeers series, too, which is on my list to watch.
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Surlyboi
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He's a bit of a bastard in that too.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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HaemishM
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He's really good in the Musketeers series as Cardinal Richelieu. He has the perfect blend of dickishness and B-movie mustache twirling villainy.
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Lakov_Sanite
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tazelbain
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Regardless of the actress, once she ascended to be his guardian angel she should have been done. I'd like him to take on an apprentice or android. I am so done with pseudo-love interests.
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01101010
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Regardless of the actress, once she ascended to be his guardian angel she should have been done. I'd like him to take on an apprentice or android. I am so done with pseudo-love interests.
In terms of the show, I fully agree. But I will miss the eye candy...
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Ironwood
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Donna was the best for reasons that ought to be obvious to everyone.
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Lakov_Sanite
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Donna was the best for reasons that ought to be obvious to everyone.
She was. Does anyone know why she left the show? I imagine it's cause moffat thought fans only want super hot companions.
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Ironwood
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It's because she turned into The Doctor.
Oh, you mean the real life reason, not the fucking retarded 'I can't write for fucking shit' reason.
Um. Dunno really.
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