Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
September 20, 2021, 12:47:02 PM

Login with username, password and session length

Search:     Advanced search
*
Home Help Search Login Register
f13.net  |  f13.net General Forums  |  Gaming  |  Topic: Elemental : War of Magic 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Elemental : War of Magic  (Read 5821 times)
Aez
Terracotta Army
Posts: 1369


on: January 16, 2009, 09:02:46 PM

Did I miss the thread about this?  Not a lot of infos yet but it looks like PARADOX is doing a Master of Magic game with possibilities of having a persistent universe mode and a player content community.  It also looks like they'll release in 2009. 

Dawn of war 2, Battle Forge, Starcraft 2 and now this. 

Fuck me.

http://elementalgame.com/index.asp

rk47
Terracotta Army
Posts: 6236

The Patron Saint of Radicalthons


Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 09:22:28 PM

looks like more fall from heaven. This is a good thing.

Colonel Sanders is back in my wallet
JWIV
Terracotta Army
Posts: 2392


Reply #2 on: September 18, 2009, 12:51:40 PM

Beta started today for pre-orders.   I need more info on this damn thing.
Yegolev
Moderator
Posts: 24440

2/10 WOULD NOT INGEST


WWW
Reply #3 on: September 18, 2009, 01:01:00 PM

Do tell.

Why am I homeless?  Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question.
They called it The Prayer, its answer was law
Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
JWIV
Terracotta Army
Posts: 2392


Reply #4 on: September 18, 2009, 01:07:23 PM

All I have is from the elemental forums.

http://forums.elementalgame.com/363990

Quote
Fetus4188

You can get into Beta 1 if you pre-order before the end of September.  After that you have to wait for Beta 2.

Though the title screen for Beta 1 is awesome.

Yegolev
Moderator
Posts: 24440

2/10 WOULD NOT INGEST


WWW
Reply #5 on: September 18, 2009, 01:10:52 PM

God bless Frogboy. awesome, for real

Why am I homeless?  Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question.
They called it The Prayer, its answer was law
Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
Kitsune
Terracotta Army
Posts: 2406


Reply #6 on: September 18, 2009, 03:54:47 PM

Shit, I didn't know they were already in beta for that one.  Gonna hafta get into that.
Speedy Cerviche
Terracotta Army
Posts: 2742


Reply #7 on: September 19, 2009, 01:54:50 PM

Game looks awesome, been following it for a while.

Will be ridiculously moddable too.
Tebonas
Terracotta Army
Posts: 6193


Reply #8 on: September 19, 2009, 01:59:59 PM

This is the MoM clone they were talking about some time ago? Thanks for the head-ups and ordered.
Ghambit
Terracotta Army
Posts: 5575


Reply #9 on: September 19, 2009, 11:08:49 PM

If HoMM: Kingdoms is truly vapourware then I'll be playing this.

"See, the beauty of webgames is that I can play them on my phone while I'm plowing your mom."  -Samwise
sidereal
Contributor
Posts: 1712


Reply #10 on: September 21, 2009, 01:46:46 PM

I am excited

THIS IS THE MOST I HAVE EVERY WANTED TO GET IN TO A BETA
Typhon
Terracotta Army
Posts: 2411


Reply #11 on: September 24, 2009, 09:57:51 AM

Interview on Shack News here - really interested in this game now.

The royalty concept sounds like an interesting way to give more depth to diplomacy, which I don't think has had teeth in these games since MOO (not that I've played every strategy game released since that time).  I'm really hoping that this succeeds at replacing MOM as the fantasy strategy game to beat.
Ghambit
Terracotta Army
Posts: 5575


Reply #12 on: September 24, 2009, 11:56:23 AM

Interview on Shack News here - really interested in this game now.

The royalty concept sounds like an interesting way to give more depth to diplomacy, which I don't think has had teeth in these games since MOO (not that I've played every strategy game released since that time).  I'm really hoping that this succeeds at replacing MOM as the fantasy strategy game to beat.

It's not the 1st game to use royalty for diplomacy.  A lot of webgames use this technique (marrying off children, etc. to create alliances - each with their own sets of stats).   

"See, the beauty of webgames is that I can play them on my phone while I'm plowing your mom."  -Samwise
Stormwaltz
Terracotta Army
Posts: 2918


Reply #13 on: September 24, 2009, 01:24:07 PM

A lot of webgames use this technique (marrying off children, etc. to create alliances - each with their own sets of stats).

As did Paradox's Crusader Kings (link to Gamespot review).

Nothing in this post represents the views of my current or previous employers.

"Isn't that just like an elf? Brings a spell to a gun fight."

"Sci-Fi writers don't invent the future, they market it."
- Henry Cobb
Murgos
Terracotta Army
Posts: 7474


Reply #14 on: September 24, 2009, 01:40:23 PM

Speaking of old school fantasy strategy games, Disciples III looks to be getting closer to release.

I can't link it because I am at work but gametrailers recently had some good looking footage up.

"You have all recieved youre last warning. I am in the process of currently tracking all of youre ips and pinging your home adressess. you should not have commencemed a war with me" - Aaron Rayburn
sidereal
Contributor
Posts: 1712


Reply #15 on: September 24, 2009, 02:35:06 PM

A lot of webgames use this technique (marrying off children, etc. to create alliances - each with their own sets of stats).

As did Paradox's Crusader Kings (link to Gamespot review).

As did Medieval: Total War.

THIS IS THE MOST I HAVE EVERY WANTED TO GET IN TO A BETA
Tebonas
Terracotta Army
Posts: 6193


Reply #16 on: September 24, 2009, 05:37:37 PM

As did Cinemawares Defenders of the Crown.

Can we stop this argument now? Every sane person can agree that the way something like this is implemented counts as well. Galactic Civilization let me win a game by being a "peaceful" warmonger who sold battleships to both sides of every conflict for votes in the elections. They had lovely implementations of diplomacy that actually counted for something, in contrast to other games where you could crawl up somebodies ass and they still attack you on a whim (I'm looking at you Fall From Heaven). A Galcivish Diplomacy mode is indeed something I look forward to in a Fantasy setting.
Typhon
Terracotta Army
Posts: 2411


Reply #17 on: September 24, 2009, 06:29:24 PM

I don't think it was an argument so much as people liking to point out that they've played games that already had the mechanism that I thought would be cool.

(Somewhat) To your point, what I'd be interested in hearing was whether those other games (that I never played) that implemented dynasty line + diplomacy were better off because of it?  My guess is that because Stardock as much as flat out admit in the interview that they are trying to steal the best parts from every strategy game they ever liked that it adds nicely to that part of the game.

Something like, "such and such game had it, I think it would have been a good addition, but they borked the implementation" adds a bit more then "such and such had it".
schild
Administrator
Posts: 59651


WWW
Reply #18 on: September 24, 2009, 06:38:54 PM

Stardock doesn't do anything differently than Blizzard except 1. They're loud about it and 2. They have 1/1,000,000,000th of their money so things never ever turn out quite as planned.
Ingmar
Terracotta Army
Posts: 19280

Auto Assault Affectionado


Reply #19 on: September 24, 2009, 06:57:26 PM

(Somewhat) To your point, what I'd be interested in hearing was whether those other games (that I never played) that implemented dynasty line + diplomacy were better off because of it?

In Crusader Kings it is in many ways the central mechanic.  I mean, it has armies and territories and such like any EU engine game, but the dynasty management part of it is what makes it interesting, really.

The Transcendent One: AH... THE ROGUE CONSTRUCT.
Nordom: Sense of closure: imminent.
Stormwaltz
Terracotta Army
Posts: 2918


Reply #20 on: September 25, 2009, 10:39:39 AM

Something like, "such and such game had it, I think it would have been a good addition, but they borked the implementation" adds a bit more then "such and such had it".

Well, that was why I linked to a review that discussed the dynasty mechanics at some length. In a nutshelll, it humanized the game, made it feel less like a typical Paradox strategy game and more like a grand mal RPG.

Speaking personally, I found it added to the realism. Those were the days when the strengths or failings of a single king could make or break a dynasty. Any medieval game that traffics in units of over 1000 men and neglects to factor in the leadership qualities of commanders misses the point. Life was personal back then -- generals weren't sitting back at HQ mulling over maps, they were in the field with mud on their boots and blood on their sword.

Nothing in this post represents the views of my current or previous employers.

"Isn't that just like an elf? Brings a spell to a gun fight."

"Sci-Fi writers don't invent the future, they market it."
- Henry Cobb
Typhon
Terracotta Army
Posts: 2411


Reply #21 on: September 25, 2009, 12:47:45 PM

Something like, "such and such game had it, I think it would have been a good addition, but they borked the implementation" adds a bit more then "such and such had it".

Well, that was why I linked to a review that discussed the dynasty mechanics at some length. In a nutshelll, it humanized the game, made it feel less like a typical Paradox strategy game and more like a grand mal RPG.

Speaking personally, I found it added to the realism. Those were the days when the strengths or failings of a single king could make or break a dynasty. Any medieval game that traffics in units of over 1000 men and neglects to factor in the leadership qualities of commanders misses the point. Life was personal back then -- generals weren't sitting back at HQ mulling over maps, they were in the field with mud on their boots and blood on their sword.

I appreciated the link, but I don't have any respect for gaming journalism.  Your brief assessment was way more valuable.

Nice thing about Stardock though schild, is they keep trying even when the initial release has issues.  Mostly this results in a game that's worthy of the money, even if you have to support the game up front and wait a bit longer for something polished (or just buy it in the bargain bin).  I don't have a problem with that.
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
f13.net  |  f13.net General Forums  |  Gaming  |  Topic: Elemental : War of Magic  
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.10 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC