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Title: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cheddar on October 09, 2010, 03:57:15 PM
The list of features on the website is interesting.  Already got my forum name created - this could be interesting.

http://www.inporylem.com/


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on October 10, 2010, 11:04:04 AM
I fully endorse this thread.

Until it becomes ugly.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on October 10, 2010, 03:12:15 PM
Interesting. They had me until they called it "Sosaria." /NERRRRRDRAAAAAAGE


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cadaverine on October 10, 2010, 05:58:09 PM
mmm, Pirates.  :heart:

This should be interesting. 


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on October 10, 2010, 06:38:20 PM
Pirates Without Trammel, even.

Should be VERY interesting.



Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on October 10, 2010, 09:30:24 PM
I'm totally going to make a detective, because I like exploring weird crap like that.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on October 10, 2010, 10:09:46 PM
Detectives are actually quite straight forward. I actually just buffed them too, so they might be totally OP.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on October 11, 2010, 01:35:39 AM
I want that funky hat that Sherlock Holmes wore in the old BBC series!


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on October 11, 2010, 11:37:07 AM
How about I sell you the Detectives Booster Pack.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slayerik on October 11, 2010, 12:14:47 PM
When beta starts I'll see if I can get a few friends to try it out with me.

We really should have an f13 and friends POWER GUILD :)


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cheddar on October 11, 2010, 06:21:38 PM
When beta starts I'll see if I can get a few friends to try it out with me.

We really should have an f13 and friends POWER GUILD :)


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on October 11, 2010, 11:14:06 PM
How about I sell you the Detectives Booster Pack.

Does it come with hat?


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cheddar on October 12, 2010, 11:48:57 AM
Will RAZOR work with this?  Will there be mounts?


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on October 12, 2010, 02:25:11 PM
A: Yes (Unfortunately) / No (Pending a reworking of mounts)



Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Chinchilla on October 17, 2010, 09:05:11 PM
They are bringing back the old IPY server that had gone down?  I have heard very good thigns about that server!  I wonder if they will allow macroing?  Because I have a mean as all hell mining macro to help me get my ingots so I can get my blacksmithing and such up.  Assuming it works of course.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slayerik on October 18, 2010, 09:31:26 AM
Macroing is ok. Resource gathering macros aren't. It's actually Azaroth's server....


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Chinchilla on October 18, 2010, 11:13:24 PM
Very awesome that its going to be a server from someone who posts here.  The website is very awesome.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: jcthebuilder on October 19, 2010, 03:45:44 PM
Only 1 feature has been posted and it has already been torn to shreds and rewritten.

I don't think it will deliver. It will be competing with EA's official classic shard. While EA's shard will cost money, it won't have an administrator restart every time he dies.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on October 19, 2010, 04:19:19 PM
 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cadaverine on October 19, 2010, 05:40:43 PM
 :facepalm:


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cheddar on October 19, 2010, 05:58:36 PM
Oh Christ he found other forums.  


edit.  I feel the need to defend the original Az player run shard.  First - it was more stable then the EA platform.  Second - it had about as many players as ANY EA shard logged in and playing.  Mind you, I realize it was free, but still good to note.  Third - It was incredible in many, many, many different ways and innovative to the point that some of the key mechanics have been "borrowed" and are still in use on other player shards.

These are facts.  Suck it.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Soulflame on October 19, 2010, 06:06:01 PM
Someone lure it into Politics.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on October 19, 2010, 06:24:55 PM
If you're going to post as if the dev is not in fact a regular poster here, after several of us have played his earlier work, and have already preferred it to EA, maybe you should...fuck I dunno how to finish that. Keep pretending you're a regular around here, with your "I've been registered for years!!!" creds. It amuses me.

Edit: Heh. It looks like I was responding to Soulflame. That amuses me too!  :grin:


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: jcthebuilder on October 19, 2010, 07:41:22 PM
Wow, I just make one joke and it goes off the wall. It is a good thing I held back the crack about the server dying due to a car accident, talk about stability.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cheddar on October 19, 2010, 07:47:33 PM
Wow, I just make one joke and it goes off the wall. It is a good thing I held back the crack about the server dying due to a car accident, talk about stability.

This is definitely WUA.  No one else would be this detail oriented.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on October 19, 2010, 07:53:59 PM
I dunno, does WUA do the "LOL jk jk ppl R to srs LOL" thing?


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cheddar on October 19, 2010, 07:58:08 PM
I dunno, does WUA do the "LOL jk jk ppl R to srs LOL" thing?

On his alt, WAU.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: jcthebuilder on October 19, 2010, 08:04:02 PM
Oh shoot, I just remembered that Company of Heroes developer who died not too long ago. That car accident joke was in poor taste, I apologize.

But still, you say EA shards are less stable than a free shard which had an administrator who restarted it after getting PKed and then going offline permanently due to being damaged in a car accident while being moved, what a joke. Here is a fact: EA shards have never been wiped in 13 years. IPY lasted what, a couple months? And didn't it get wiped once or twice during that time?

No free shard has offered anywhere close to what EA does in stability.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cheddar on October 19, 2010, 08:10:24 PM
Oh shoot, I just remembered that Company of Heroes developer who died not too long ago. That car accident joke was in poor taste, I apologize.

But still, you say EA shards are less stable than a free shard which had an administrator who restarted it after getting PKed and then going offline permanently due to being damaged in a car accident while being moved, what a joke. Here is a fact: EA shards have never been wiped in 13 years. IPY lasted what, a couple months? And didn't it get wiped once or twice during that time?

No free shard has offered anywhere close to what EA does in stability.

Give it up.  We know you are Windup Atheist.  Took us a minute... "jcbuilder"... comeon... Jesus Christ Builder.  I retract my hello thread statement, resolve your dementia.


edit. I willl fall for one of your baits.  Az shard didn't have to go to downtime EVERY SINGLE DAY.  For an hour or two.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: jcthebuilder on October 19, 2010, 08:48:38 PM
edit. I willl fall for one of your baits.  Az shard didn't have to go to downtime EVERY SINGLE DAY.  For an hour or two.
EA shards haven't had downtime lasting over 30 minutes in 8 years. Downtime is usually about 20 minutes. It has to be daily because a lot of stuff depends on it, such as plant growth. A shard can run for days or weeks without downtime as they have done with Test Center.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on October 19, 2010, 09:21:48 PM
Quote
edit. I willl fall for one of your baits.

I don't recommend it. Either this person is copypasting from another troll on my blog or it's the same troll.

I've got no real doubt it's the same troll.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on October 19, 2010, 11:10:20 PM
NO! I refuse to believe it.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Arthur_Parker on October 20, 2010, 02:45:42 AM
FYI this guy is not a fake account, he's also not a troll (at least not a troll in the sense of just faking interest in what he's talking about, he really is interested).
http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=19908.msg854337#msg854337


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: WindupAtheist on October 20, 2010, 02:58:30 AM
What the hell guys, you really think I'd create a sockpuppet account just to troll?

This lamely, I mean?

In a freeshard thread in a Graveyard forum only like five people ever read?

I'm insulted!  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slayerik on October 20, 2010, 10:59:32 AM
Don't defend EA. Look what they have done to UO over the years. Trammel, Ninjas, elves, neon shit, stupid scrolls, other assorted horseshit.

Good luck Az


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Soulflame on October 20, 2010, 12:17:08 PM
Trammel stabilized the UO population, and is probably why it's even still running to this day.

The other stuff is stupid though, I'll give you that.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: WindupAtheist on October 20, 2010, 02:53:04 PM
Don't defend EA. Look what they have done to UO over the years. Trammel, Ninjas, elves, neon shit, stupid scrolls, other assorted horseshit.

Trammel we may have discussed once or twice in the past.  :oh_i_see:

Ninjas and such? At least half (probably more) of their playerbase is Japanese and wanted that shit, and there's no real reason not to have a pseudo-Asia to go along with pseudo-Europe.

Elves are ghey.

Neon shit used to bother me more, but now that they've finally added inexpensive player-crafted dyes that work on anything it's not such a big deal. My black and red plate suit is tight, if some other tard wants to paint their armor purple and green then that's their damage.

Bitching about scrolls and stuff just sounds like "Waah something is different!"

Personally, I was most happy with the game around 2001/2002, post Publish 16 but prior to Age of Shadows, but meh.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on October 20, 2010, 02:55:32 PM
Ninjas and such? At least half (probably more) of their playerbase is Japanese and wanted that shit, and there's no real reason not to have a pseudo-Asia to go along with pseudo-Europe.

Plus there's always been an Asian-Britannian subculture in the Ultimas. I could totally dig up screenshots from them but meh. Unnecessary.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Chinchilla on October 20, 2010, 06:28:18 PM
All I know is that I tried to log back into back during that time it was free and I couldn't.  I may still try the 14 day trail, but I doubt I will as Darkfall is running beautifully on my new PC and I don't want to have to pay for the stuff that EA has turned UO into.  I suppose Trammel may have stablized the population, but I can tell you what it did for me.  It made me go "Oh hell no" and leave once Felucca became a desert.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: jcthebuilder on October 21, 2010, 01:24:35 AM
Ninjas and such? At least half (probably more) of their playerbase is Japanese and wanted that shit, and there's no real reason not to have a pseudo-Asia to go along with pseudo-Europe.
From what I hear the Samurai Empire expansion was just as poorly received in Japan was it was here. It was purely a marketing driven expansion. Likely a panic move to try and appease a large number of players after so many were leaving due to Age of Shadows.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on October 21, 2010, 08:19:37 AM
Nevermind. I shouldn't let myself get trolled. ;)


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on November 02, 2010, 10:52:14 AM

Quote
I don't think it will deliver. It will be competing with EA's official classic shard.

I could never hope to compete with glass swords and making everyone click "always daytime".


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Nebu on November 02, 2010, 12:02:11 PM
New shards/servers/whatever in MMOs will always do well as it's a new playing field for people to compete with a fresh economy.  It will start strong, I'm sure of that.  How well it sustains a population is all based on rule implementation.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: jcthebuilder on November 02, 2010, 04:02:13 PM
I could never hope to compete with glass swords and making everyone click "always daytime".
Way to separate Halloween content from the actual test shard.

It was just a bad time for a return. Shard of the Dead is currently the most popular EA shard at all times of the day, above Atlantic and Test Center. UO Gamers just launched their new classic shard and Angel Island is revamping to appeal to a larger audience. Is there really enough classic UO players out there to support 4 shards? I don't think so, especially if EA decides to offer classic UO for free.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cheddar on November 02, 2010, 05:33:50 PM
garble garble gurk garble

Good point, bro.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on November 02, 2010, 09:44:17 PM
NEED MOAR CHART


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: sinij on November 06, 2010, 09:58:10 PM
Trammel stabilized the UO population, and is probably why it's even still running to this day.

Trammel was the worst thing that happened to UO in its entire run. Yes, there was undeniable need for more and better protection of "non-combat" players, but way OSI segregated the world and in process completely tossed all checks and balances out of the window was nothing short of game-breaking.

Correct solution to "Trammel" problem was massively expanding guard zones around Brit, adding protected "new player" island and changing full looting to random equipped item + gold drop, modified by karma (so PKs and thieves drop more).


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Xuri on November 06, 2010, 10:56:26 PM
Eh.

The correct solution to the "Trammel" problem would be to give PKs permanent death.  :evil:


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: WindupAtheist on November 07, 2010, 12:54:33 AM
The solution was to invent character transfers then instead of years later, carebearify the existing shards, and let anyone who didn't like it transfer to a designated gankfest shard.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on November 07, 2010, 03:57:08 AM
Correct solution to "Trammel" problem was massively expanding guard zones around Brit, adding protected "new player" island and changing full looting to random equipped item + gold drop, modified by karma (so PKs and thieves drop more).

Bandaid upon bandaid upon bandaid. No, the Trammel/Felucca split was just what UO needed, exactly what UO needed, because as a Counselor on the day it happened, I spent all day online, starting long before and ending hours after my designated shift, and I got so drunk off the distilled tears of PKs, I mean fucking wasted, every call to complain I took another drink and man I got shitfaced.

I must say that out of all the griefs that ever happened in MMOs, that was the greatest of them all, OSI griefing the PKs.

And the best part? The complaints keep coming, almost a decade later.

Thanks for the memories.  :heart:


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Chinchilla on November 07, 2010, 09:12:48 AM
Trammel stabilized the UO population, and is probably why it's even still running to this day.

Correct solution to "Trammel" problem was massively expanding guard zones around Brit, adding protected "new player" island and changing full looting to random equipped item + gold drop, modified by karma (so PKs and thieves drop more).

I actually really likethese ideas instead of that Trammel crap.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slayerik on November 07, 2010, 11:37:38 PM
http://inporylem.com/forum/showthread.php?215-LIST-OF-10-FEATURES-IN-10-WEEKS-%28aka-10-in-10-list%29

Link to IPY forum, with links to Az's blog about upcoming features and changes.

And oh yeah, sign up on the forums and message me for a guild group invite.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slayerik on November 10, 2010, 08:59:46 AM
http://azaroth.org/2010/11/07/10-in-10-kings-and-oc/

Kings and Order Chaos on Az's Blog


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Chinchilla on December 04, 2010, 09:26:21 AM
Its been awfully quiet here.  Is that because everyone is online and gaming on this server or....?


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slayerik on December 06, 2010, 08:52:28 AM
Server is still in beta - when we get close I'll be making some noise and hoping for interest - we should have a strong guild at launch. You better join us Chin :)


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: dusematic on December 06, 2010, 09:18:47 AM
Correct solution to "Trammel" problem was massively expanding guard zones around Brit, adding protected "new player" island and changing full looting to random equipped item + gold drop, modified by karma (so PKs and thieves drop more).

Bandaid upon bandaid upon bandaid. No, the Trammel/Felucca split was just what UO needed, exactly what UO needed, because as a Counselor on the day it happened, I spent all day online, starting long before and ending hours after my designated shift, and I got so drunk off the distilled tears of PKs, I mean fucking wasted, every call to complain I took another drink and man I got shitfaced.



genuine lol.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Chinchilla on December 10, 2010, 02:56:14 PM
Server is still in beta - when we get close I'll be making some noise and hoping for interest - we should have a strong guild at launch. You better join us Chin :)

Oh hells yeah I am.  I won't miss out on some PvP action!


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on December 10, 2010, 03:04:47 PM
Me too me too. :) Still watching from the sidelines.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on December 17, 2010, 09:30:49 PM
Sidelines are fun.

But request beta if you want to help out. ;)


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cheddar on December 17, 2010, 10:03:01 PM
Sidelines are fun.

But request beta if you want to help out. ;)

Working client for those of us on tech curve?  :)


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slyfeind on December 18, 2010, 12:29:38 AM
Sidelines are fun.

But request beta if you want to help out. ;)

Nyah, I do too much bug-hunting at work. >_< Otherwise I would.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on December 18, 2010, 09:55:04 AM
Sidelines are fun.

But request beta if you want to help out. ;)

Working client for those of us on tech curve?  :)

What's the issue you're having?


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Chinchilla on December 18, 2010, 10:46:26 AM
Sidelines are fun.

But request beta if you want to help out. ;)

I'm a little tech handicapped so is this bug testing something anyone can do?


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Slayerik on December 18, 2010, 11:55:35 AM
Yeah Chin, just mess around in game and report any bad shit. PM Az on the IPY forums for access if you haven't already, and you'll get in when he decides :) Also they have certain times where events happen to test out stuff like O/C and pirates - they are good fun!


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Cheddar on December 18, 2010, 03:26:08 PM
Sidelines are fun.

But request beta if you want to help out. ;)

Working client for those of us on tech curve?  :)

What's the issue you're having?

Flickering.  I have Windows 7 64 bit edition.  I think I posted a bunch of the trouble shooting I did elsewhere on this thread.

Basically,  client won't stop flickering in full screen mode.  I did a ton of troubleshooting with your staff, scoured the interwebs, etc etc. 


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on December 18, 2010, 04:14:26 PM
Yeah. As far as I can tell, this is a problem with the newest client. Did you ever try a version around 6.x.x or before?

7.x.x has had a lot of flickering/crashing problems.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on December 18, 2010, 05:00:35 PM
http://emptunes.com/Clients.rar

This has several client.exe versions in one handy pack.

In the event you don't want to go download a whole new full client, try that first. Just copy and paste one into your UO directory.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on December 23, 2010, 02:45:14 PM
Feh.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Chinchilla on December 24, 2010, 12:00:23 AM
FYI - I private msged ya for access to beta on the IPY forums.  I haven't checked yet to see if you invited me or read it.


Title: Re: IPY Beta starts Nov. 1 - Can They Deliver?
Post by: Azaroth on December 31, 2010, 09:10:43 AM
Just thought I'd mention this here:

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthread.php?533-In-Por-Ylem-High-Seas

IPY brings smooth boat movement to free shards.

Also, I would like to preemptively welcome JCTheBuilder back to this thread.