Aion - The Tower of Eternity

[Draegan]

Actually Aion is PVP with PVE on top.  You have two halves of the world where some PVP can happen but all the good stuff is going on in the "Abyss" where you have stuff you want.  In the Abyss there are a lot of L2 PVP elements and some raid thing from what I remember.

[DLRiley]

Actually Aion is PVP with PVE on top.  You have two halves of the world where some PVP can happen but all the good stuff is going on in the "Abyss" where you have stuff you want.  In the Abyss there are a lot of L2 PVP elements and some raid thing from what I remember.

The time you spent grinding your ass off will make you feel that pvp was slapped on top.

[Draegan]

Actually Aion is PVP with PVE on top.  You have two halves of the world where some PVP can happen but all the good stuff is going on in the "Abyss" where you have stuff you want.  In the Abyss there are a lot of L2 PVP elements and some raid thing from what I remember.

The time you spent grinding your ass off will make you feel that pvp was slapped on top.

We shall see if they change the exp curve for NA release, but the grind is about half of what normal Korean games are.  There were people who poopsocked max level in under 2 weeks I think.  I honestly think the grind won't be terrible in this game, especially with a separate NA beta after this game has been released for almost a year in Korea.

I was just on Aionsource.com and they had this up from last Novemeber, a guide on Stigmas.  It's an interesting way for customization.  It's a system that allows you to equip other class' skills.

[Falconeer]

Again: you are all underestimating this. You heard it here first.

[tmp]

We shall see if they change the exp curve for NA release, but the grind is about half of what normal Korean games are.

0.002% experience per kill rather than 0.001%? Awesome

[Signe]

Again: you are all underestimating this. You heard it here first.

You are always so full of hope! 

[Falconeer]

Again: you are all underestimating this. You heard it here first.

You are always so full of hope! 

I love losers. Can't snap out of it.

[Tale]

Just trying to understand if we are already in the phase where WoW invented MMORPGs and everything else is just a clone of it.

That would be amusing.

I think that's how the market already sees it. WoW invented this. The obscure shit before it was only played by beardy wierdies and doesn't count.

[Nonentity]

I have a few sources I trust who are playing the Korean version of this and quite enjoying it. They say the aerial combat is fun, because you have actual momentum to flying around, unlike a WoW-style flying mount of stop and turn on a dime.

[Draegan]

I havn't heard about the momentum thing.  That seems either really cool or terrible with lag.

[tmp]

I havn't heard about the momentum thing.  That seems either really cool or terrible with lag.

People are bitching about movement momentum in LotRO, i'd expect it to wind up no different.

[Nonentity]

It's only for flight movement, though, not on-ground player movement.

[Segoris]

It's only for flight movement, though, not on-ground player movement.

Just curious as I haven't been keeping up with Aion lately, did you hear if there were regular mounts, and if so, if they also are bound to the movement momentum? Granted regular mounts aren't flight mounts, but it would just categorize momentum movement as mount based instead of ground vs air.

I like the concept of it though for air movement, and could definitately see it for ground mounts as being a good thing if it isn't done really poorly. Keeping walking/running as regular stop and go I like as well.

[Draegan]

I've never heard of mounts, but then again, your characters has WINGS.

[Count Nerfedalot]

Momentum effects when walking/running are a pain in the ass if you don't have any ability to control speed.  If all you have is run and stop but momentum affects your ability to stop, then running around turns into an ice skating simulation instead of a running around simulation.  Pretty cool in the right context (say, skating on ice, or flying, or playing Asteroids, or even Joust) but an annoying effect emphasizing the disconnect between you and your character when all you want to do is move from here to the door over there across a normally tractive surface and stop where you tell it to stop. 

[Segoris]

I've never heard of mounts, but then again, your characters has WINGS.

True, but there is a limit of 1 minute for using the flying ability when not using waypoints (towns, points of interest). So a mount wouldn't really be a bad idea, unless there are tons of waypoints making that 1 minute limit not as bad as it seems.

[Draegan]

GDC 09 : Aion Presentation

Pretty interesting.

[Tale]

GDC 09 : Aion Presentation

Pretty interesting.

Pretty. A bit confusing. But it made the game seem like Lineage 3.

[Falconeer]

It definitely IS Lineage 3. A post-WoW Lineage. Is it bad? I keep repeating: success!

[nurtsi]

The flying animation actually looks pretty good. I always hated the way the bats and whatnot are animated in WoW, flapping their wings when they dive and gliding upwards etc.

Still, this game has to be a ball-busting grindfest

[gryeyes]

I was fairly impressed with that video. Will definitely give it a try even tho rang rang style games make me want to stab myself in the nipple.

[Murgos]

Producer interview: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47551.html

[Nonentity]

I think I'm with Falconeer on this one - I think this is gonna come out of left field. They're completely re-tuning the game for a NA release - the speed of leveling is faster than the Korean release, and the general movement and speed of the game is also faster. They're actually properly doing a regional port, rather than just a translation.

[schild]

NCSoft desperately needs this to come out ASAP. If they've actually retuned it, right now (RIGHT FUCKING NOW) is the time to be releasing an MMOG. Before Blizzard announces an expansion, while WAR and AoC fall the fuck apart, and before SOE drops x right on our fucking faces.

[Hindenburg]

And before Jumpgate proves to be the smash hit most of us hope it will be. Gotta have hope.

[schild]

Hope is a waste of goddamn time. All it provides is letdown.

I don't trust anyone who relies on "hope" for providing possible entertainment.

[Hindenburg]

Says the guy who was masturbating to Demon's Souls.

Drop the attitude. You don't trust anyone, period.

[schild]

Says the guy who was masturbating to Demon's Souls.

Jealous is rough, I know.

Drop the attitude. You don't trust anyone, period.

Wrong, but the list is indeed short, wiseass.

[Hindenburg]

Says the guy who was masturbating to Demon's Souls.

Jealous is rough, I know.

I see that you didn't deny it. 

[Ard]

I see that you didn't deny it. 

Good god man, do not make him prove it, that is the LAST thing I want to see... 

[schild]

I don't need to deny it, anyone who has played the game and doesn't quit because it's hard knows that it leaves you without time to wank. Unlike Itto, who is using games as insults when he hasn't even played them.

[UnSub]

I don't trust anyone who relies on "hope" for providing possible entertainment.

I prefer to call it "potential". 

[schild]

I don't trust anyone who relies on "hope" for providing possible entertainment.

I prefer to call it "potential". 

You paint that horse, brother.

[Ghambit]

Bio of the perfect woman:
http://www.aiononline.com/us/community/development_team/meet_liv.html

Anyone else notice that in the promo. vid her boobs looked 3D?  Kind of a Blade&Soul bra look there I guess... 
anyways, her in-box must be flooded.

One thing NCSoft is good as is choosing quality community managers.  They did a great job in Tabula Rasa as well. (couple cuties over there also)

[Murgos]

NCSoft desperately needs this to come out ASAP. If they've actually retuned it, right now (RIGHT FUCKING NOW) is the time to be releasing an MMOG.

October 30th '09 is the last date I saw. Personally, I think that's a mistake.  Summer break is far more important for MMO sales than Christmas.

But, what do I know?  Maybe there really is that much localization that needs to happen that it will take them 5 more months to get it out the door...